forgiveness:


That's right.

TheGoodJoe:


What part of the importance of the role often go unnoticed do you not understand?

I have given you my opinion. Do you have your own opinion ad can you explain why?

TheGoodJoe:


Coming from the person who blamed Keshi for not qualifying us for the last Nations Cup when he was not coaching us.

TheGoodJoe:



Do not say he had no technical ability. I have explained it clearly to you but you chose to delve in the misconception. Dunga played in a role that requires the sacrifice of whatever creative talent he has for the good of the team.

It is clearly explained in the Vieira quote.

If we did not watch Mikel in his early days for the Junior teams of Nigeria or his games with the Super Eagles, many will argue due to his role at Chelsea that Mikel is not a skillful player.

Watching Dunga play as a shield or central defender repeatedly does not mean he lacked creative ability.

Secondly, you can say the defensive part of the game is important and a big part of their calling. You can not say that is the only role. They are defensive midfielders. There is a reason for the midfielders. It has to do more with intelligence than brute force.

I think the point is well explained.

forgiveness:


Who was the coach before Oliseh?

Did Keshi have any part in the nations cup qualifiers before Oliseh took over?

chrisooblog:
Zambia are no doubt a good team and I take your advice on-board that we prepare for them like we are facing Brazil even if it's a case of using a hammer to kill an ant so be it. But this your conspiracy theory about kayode's exclusion and bogus claims that the 2013 victory was a fluke get as e be

Kog45:
meaning Keshi,Olishe,Siasia are responsible

Mujtahida:
This argument on legends is becoming legendary. Are we suffering from paucity of issues to discuss that we have to go back to this beat up topic.
Guys let's deliberate on this Zambia matter
Abeg Joebie give me your outline for the best tactical approach to this Zambia game. Wing play abi midfield thrust abi combination of both? How do we contain the pace and athleticism of the Zambians.
Cc
Forgiveness, goodjoe, mickael2, goldfish80, kog45, bigblang, Chrismario, etc

Mujtahida:
This argument on legends is becoming legendary. Are we suffering from paucity of issues to discuss that we have to go back to this beat up topic.
Guys let's deliberate on this
Abeg Joebie give me your outline for the best tactical approach to this Zambia game. Wing play abi midfield thrust abi combination of both? How do we contain the pace and athleticism of the Zambians.
Cc
Forgiveness, goodjoe, mickael2, goldfish80, kog45, bigblang, Chrismario, etc

Mujtahida:
This argument on legends is becoming legendary. Are we suffering from paucity of issues to discuss that we have to go back to this beat up topic.
Guys let's deliberate on this Zambia matter
Abeg Joebie give me your outline for the best tactical approach to this Zambia game. Wing play abi midfield thrust abi combination of both? How do we contain the pace and athleticism of the Zambians.
Cc
Forgiveness, goodjoe, mickael2, goldfish80, kog45, bigblang, Chrismario, etc

forgiveness:


Who was the coach before Oliseh?

Did Keshi have any part in the nations cup qualifiers before Oliseh took over?

goldfish80:


Maybe you're related to Dunga or you were privy to watch him when he played in the streets to know he had immeasurable technical abilities that he sacrificed for the team. The Dunga the world saw was a thug. Just like Roy Keane, Diop, Thomas Graveson, Gattuso, Deschamps and the rest skin heads I have over the years watched play the DM role.

There used to be one guy who played for Iwuanyanwu in the 80's and 90's I'm sure Kog45 can remember his name. His only job was to come in and break the leg of the opposition's best player's leg. Guess what position he played? DM of course!

DM's are meant to be strong, powerful and they usually take one for the team. Do you know what it means to take one for the team in this context? That means to kick the opposition when they are threading dangerously to goal..

goldfish80:


Maybe you're related to Dunga or you were privy to watch him when he played in the streets to know he had immeasurable technical abilities that he sacrificed for the team. The Dunga the world saw was a thug. Just like Roy Keane, Diop, Thomas Graveson, Gattuso, Deschamps and the rest skin heads I have over the years watched play the DM role.

There used to be one guy who played for Iwuanyanwu in the 80's and 90's I'm sure Kog45 can remember his name. His only job was to come in and break the leg of the opposition's best player's leg. Guess what position he played? DM of course!

DM's are meant to be strong, powerful and they usually take one for the team. Do you know what it means to take one for the team in this context? That means to kick the opposition when they are threading dangerously to goal..

forgiveness:



If the foundation no good and the house collapse, wetin be the problem? Foundation. Foundation =Keshi.

Mickael2:



me I have already said I'd favour a more compressed midfield display which means Iwobi starts for me especially since his confidence will be high after scoring against Brighton(MS has zero goals and zero assists could be low on confidence which was clearly shown in that first leg against Cameroon when he missed a certain goal). The only difference is that I will play Iwobi on the right instead, why? Echejile. First, Echejile will not provide enough cover for Iwobi(since his defensive side isn't the best). Second, Echejile won't provide a passing option for Iwobi something I believe Shehu(Aina) who is naturally a midfield will be able to provide easily(you can see that brilliant combination play he had with Ndidi in the first leg). On the left, VicMo can post his one-man-army display. If we can isolate him and their right back then expect him to atleast cause them some problems alone without Echejile's help while also helping out the liability in his defensive work

safarigirl:
Moses Simon get athleticism, Leon Balogun and especially Victor Moses he athleticism.

Mikel does not need athleticism, he will decimate those kids with ease, I have confidence in that.

I hate reading anything you post and even more, I hate conversing with you because you aggravate me.

You can think whatever you like, but it dies not change the fact that our team is better than Zambia's just like Manchester City had a better team than Chelsea.

God! I hate talking to you

forgiveness:


Who was the coach before Oliseh?

Did Keshi have any part in the nations cup qualifiers before Oliseh took over?

forgiveness:



What is the difference between Mikel Obi role and Makalele?

Mujtahida:
This argument on legends is becoming legendary. Are we suffering from paucity of issues to discuss that we have to go back to this beat up topic.
Guys let's deliberate on this Zambia matter
Abeg Joebie give me your outline for the best tactical approach to this Zambia game. Wing play abi midfield thrust abi combination of both? How do we contain the pace and athleticism of the Zambians.
Cc
Forgiveness, goodjoe, mickael2, goldfish80, kog45, bigblang, Chrismario, etc

forgiveness:



If there is no space you can't run and if there's a wall you can't but stop.

4-4-1-1 is my formation when defending. 4-2-3-1 when attacking.


..........................Akpeyi........


Shehu............ Balogun......... Troost......... Aina/Echiejile


Victor.......... Onazi.............Ndidi................... Simon

................................... Obi

......................... Ighalo.

forgiveness:



If there is no space you can't run and if there's a wall you can't but stop.

4-4-1-1 is my formation when defending. 4-2-3-1 when attacking.


..........................Akpeyi........


Shehu............ Balogun......... Troost......... Aina/Echiejile


Victor.......... Onazi.............Ndidi................... Simon

................................... Obi

......................... Ighalo.

goldfish80:


I expect a professional game from the Super Eagles. Hopefully Genort Rohr will fix our now famous first 10-20 minutes lethargy.

This time around I expect us to start on the front foot, playing sensible football.

I expect the Zambians to show resilience in certain phases but ultimately I expect them to crack in the second half. Being a young side, they are bound to make a few errors in the second half. The likes of Kelechi and Iwobi will have a lot of fun coming into the fray in the second half when the Zambians are considerably gassed out.

Joebie:
Sincerely I've not watched any of their double header against Algeria. Which is why I've not said a thing on this matter. Over to the rest of us.

I saw clips of it though. But i'm not informed enough

forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! This girl just like wahala, I swear.

Wetin man do na?

Make I no talk wetin I see again? Shuuuu!

I am not even talking about the weakness or strength of our team. I am only discussing what I saw when I watched the Zambia's game and I noticed they rely on crossing the ball from the wings.

Virtually, all their goals came from the wings during this campaign hence the need to block or stop them from the wings.

Besides, there is one guy Orchestrating the play from the midfield and I think he has to be tamed.

But here you are talking about hate and your feelings when you know they are inconsequential in public domain where opinions should/must differ.

This is no longer Football matter girl. Hold yourself and stop expressing feelings that has nothing to do with soccer in public domain.

Even this feelings are fake because you are in a fake cyber World where Saint could be mistaken for devil or devil mistaken for saint.

Now, put that behind you and let's talk Football.


It depends on where the coach plays Mikel.

If Moses Simon and Victor Moses have athleticism are they to hold the Zambian's wingers?

My focus is to curtail the Zambian's wingers. It's as simple as that but if you have different opinions share them and stop using emotions to deal with the society.

That level of mind set is low.


Of course, we have a better team than Zambia but with wrong selection and tactics, believe me anything can happen.


Manchester City has better team than Chelsea is only in your dreams.

TheGoodJoe:


As I knew. You do not know what you were arguing and was bound to goof soon. Roy Keane was not just a thug. Understand that he was a balling genius. As I said, stick to what you know. I have explained it clearly but because of I must argue you just goofed.

goldfish80:

Roy Keane was a proper thug. Read up want transpired in the famous pizza gate saga.
Roy Keane ended the career of Haland, a Man city player in one of the most horrific tackles every seen in the Epl. Roy Keane was a proper thug.
You have no idea what you're talking about if you think he was a technical genius. He's an Irish skin head who kicked lumps out of people.