Mynd44:
Shows how much you know. When the rains come, most if these nomads go up north due to the return of vegetation up north and the presence of tsetseflies down south and with the herdsmen, the criminals among them hiding and disguising as herdsmen move.

The struggle between herdsmen and farmers can only be solved when herdsmen are able to source for food without going far away. Which was why Audu Ogbeh suggested importing high quality grasses which can survive the dry season up north which prevents herdsmen from going south to bother farmers or even farmers in the north.

Putting cattle in ranches is just going to cause meat scarcity in Nigerian. Ranch them up north, no food for 6 months each year.

Ranch them in the south, tsetsefly kills substantial amounts of them. Only solution is alternative feeding

Brilliant submission.

... And that's how Mynd44 poured sand into their propaganda garri, effectively destabilizing the threads compass

AfonjaConehead:

and that justifies their killings,abi?
Interesting how you spoke @length without saying a word about the manner with which they slaughter ppl and take selfies with dead bodies! And you dare begin ur post by saying "that shows how much you know".
O ga oo..

Op,nothing do u,if some ppl/region like,let them continue to play the ostrich,burying their heads in the sands in the midst of present danger thinking all is well. This is naija and we cant afford to continue to live in fools' paradise.
Just look at that one up there making mention of ipob! As if benue/plateau ppl suffering herdsmen menance are Igbos. Smh

LionDeLeo:


When people say ipob terrorists are just bunch of animals without brains, you think they are insulting Igbos abi? You can now see it for yourself.

obailala:
When you hold much prejudice against a person, you lose your sense of reasoning whenever the person speaks or is spoken of.

What exactly was wrong with what Mynd44 said?... The question raised by the thread was "why we no longer hear of rampant herdsmen killings." He's the only one who gave a potential answer while everyone else on the thread seems to be blabbing. Now the sensible thing to do is either to agree or disagree with his answer. But you chose to attack him asking why he didnt condemn herdsmen killings?... Are you alright?.. Was that the question asked?

The OP and his goons already had a pre-determined answer to the question he posed which was tied to their ipob terrorist agenda, unfortunately for them the pity party was ruined before it even started.

Hence the tears .

clarocuzioo:



Mynd44, am really disappointed at this your response on this issue, it goes a long way to prove that you are sympathetic to the Fulani herdsmen. Some may term you a bigot, since the sanctity of human lives means nothing to us that we have to sacrifice it on the alter of ethnic and religious bigotry.

I tell you categorically that the herdsmen don't go back to the North once they are in the South, who will bear the cost to and fro north prior to their sales?? They don't even consider that as an option, once they are in the South, they are there, unless there's a crisis that's when they consider going back to the North, so for you to put up this shallow defence for them is worrisome.

Ranching over time has been said as the solution to this and you come up here to tell us about Tse-Tse fly? If the National grazing bill has been successful will you people still consider Tse-Tse fly and not take the lands allocated for grazing in the South? Even if we have Tse-Tse flies in the South, are there no solutions to that in this modern world?

Also Audu Ogbeh considering to import grasses at a time we have scarce foreign exchange and at a time when the government of the day is preaching buy naija to grow Naira is the height of sycophancy.what happens to all the grasses in the country that cows are already enjoying that we have to consider importing grasses??
Please this shallow defence makes a fool of ur person and personality considering your esteem position as a moderator in this great and noble forum. I always tell sycophants defending the present day government, there's a life after that government, PDP goons can tell better now. You can as well ban me.

Mynd44:


Okay, I see you have put points to my reply so I hope we can have a discussion devoid of shots (in that case, I will ignore and just move on)

In the Old Yoruba kingdom, the Alaafin(I meant the crown and throne not one person) reigned supreme in terms of military, he chased the Egbas to Abeokuta and fought all sorts of fights but for the life of that crown, as big as the army was, they didnt have a home grown calvary. The Alaafins tried, bought horses and all but they kept dying because of some strange illness caused by tsetsefly so he bought hourses from his northern allies/enemies from accross the big river.


That brief history lesson was to show you how much of an issue this is and how long ago raising these animals have been in the south. Now, if you have a cure to trypanosomiasis, please suggest it but people have tried having these animals here during the rains but they die……by the hundreds.

The ranching law was a joke. It would have failed and the conflicts will continue.

Now note Audu Ogbeh's idea (crazy as it sounds) was not to import the grasses that will feed cattle but buy seeds and introduce a new specie of wild grass to Nigeria that dont need too much water to survive so during the dry season, they will be alive. These grasses can(or should be able to) spread with little effort accros the states the herdsmen locate and do that quickly. So just as Malaysia imported palm seeds from us, we can import them, introduce these plants here, have healthy cattle , improve our hide industry, have cheaper meat, clothing industry, avoid the conflicts of herdsmen and farmers and eveyone (including you will be happy).

Sure you didn't think he wanted to buy grasses to feed cattle directly, nah.

SpComedy:
October 2016 killings, oops i forgot it was raining in the south and they moved up north and it rained their bullets, the fact is that they stopped killing for some reasons and this reason of yours is definitely not one of it https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/10/17/herdsmen-attack-military-outpost-kill-20-in-kaduna/

You nd co. deleted the first thread made by this Ipoblogic where questions concerning Ipob and its struggle were answered with logic and intellect...... you bd co should hide your faces in shame and push more boobs and snake thread to FP

obailala:
When you hold much prejudice against a person, you lose your sense of reasoning whenever the person speaks or is spoken of.

What exactly was wrong with what Mynd44 said?... The question raised by the thread was "why we no longer hear of rampant herdsmen killings." He's the only one who gave a potential answer while everyone else on the thread seems to be blabbing. Now the sensible thing to do is to either agree or disagree with his answer. But you chose to attack him asking why he isn't condemning herdsmen killings and castigating him for 'supporting' the killings... Biko was that the question asked?... Are you alright?

Hofbrauhaus:


Nah, he won't. He would rather ban you for speaking the truth. You should know them by now...

AfonjaConehead:


someone pls help me with my cologne..

obailala:
I completely doubt that a cologne is what you need right now. You need something to calm your temper so you can be objective.

Mynd44:

Interesting view.

Lets tone this down; it is an intelligent discourse not a rabble.

Now, compare the rains last year with that of this year, which is more? Heck, dont compare, last year and 2015, it was described as a drought(see attached picture) hence livestock invaded everywhere in the search for food. If I was a herdsman, I would try to survive tsetseflies and possibly stay in the midbelt, try to survive than go up where there was no rain at all.

If you listened to the Presidential address on October 1, he even mentioned it; said something like "the rains this year was much and this increased agriculture"

dustmalik:
Mynd44 made very logical, intelligent submissions. but, as usual, if you even as much as try to reason with these ipob miscreants, they'd pour all the venom that ever existed on you.

Ojiofor:


What are you insinuating?
That the commander in chief of Armed forces and the president of federal republic of Nigeria is partial or biased?

pauljumbo:


On a more serious note the killings of the herdsmen have reduced since when ipob start comparing their activities.

dustmalik:
Mynd44 made very logical, intelligent submissions. but, as usual, if you even as much as try to reason with these ipob miscreants, they'd pour all the venom that ever existed on you.

pauljumbo:


The attached pix is for January 2017 not October 2016

Mynd44:


Okay, I see you have put points to my reply so I hope we can have a discussion devoid of shots (in that case, I will ignore and just move on)

In the Old Yoruba kingdom, the Alaafin(I meant the crown and throne not one person) reigned supreme in terms of military, he chased the Egbas to Abeokuta and fought all sorts of fights but for the life of that crown, as big as the army was, they didnt have a home grown calvary. The Alaafins tried, bought horses and all but they kept dying because of some strange illness caused by tsetsefly so he bought hourses from his northern allies/enemies from accross the big river.


That brief history lesson was to show you how much of an issue this is and how long ago raising these animals have been in the south. Now, if you have a cure to trypanosomiasis, please suggest it but people have tried having these animals here during the rains but they die……by the hundreds.

The ranching law was a joke. It would have failed and the conflicts will continue.

Now note Audu Ogbeh's idea (crazy as it sounds) was not to import the grasses that will feed cattle but buy seeds and introduce a new specie of wild grass to Nigeria that dont need too much water to survive so during the dry season, they will be alive. These grasses can(or should be able to) spread with little effort accros the states the herdsmen locate and do that quickly. So just as Malaysia imported palm seeds from us, we can import them, introduce these plants here, have healthy cattle , improve our hide industry, have cheaper meat, clothing industry, avoid the conflicts of herdsmen and farmers and eveyone (including you will be happy).

Sure you didn't think he wanted to buy grasses to feed cattle directly, nah.

nihil:

Good...so where will these seeds be planted?

Mynd44:
Shows how much you know. When the rains come, most of these nomads go up north due to the return of vegetation up north and the presence of tsetseflies down south and with the herdsmen, the criminals among them hiding and disguising as herdsmen move.

The struggle between herdsmen and farmers can only be solved when herdsmen are able to source for food without going far away. Which was why Audu Ogbeh suggested importing high quality grasses which can survive the dry season up north which prevents herdsmen from going south to bother farmers or even farmers in the north.

Putting cattle in ranches is just going to cause meat scarcity in Nigerian. Ranch them up north, no food for 6 months each year.

Ranch them in the south, tsetsefly kills substantial amounts of them. Only solution is alternative feeding
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Mynd44:
Shows how much you know. When the rains come, most of these nomads go up north due to the return of vegetation up north and the presence of tsetseflies down south and with the herdsmen, the criminals among them hiding and disguising as herdsmen move.

The struggle between herdsmen and farmers can only be solved when herdsmen are able to source for food without going far away. Which was why Audu Ogbeh suggested importing high quality grasses which can survive the dry season up north which prevents herdsmen from going south to bother farmers or even farmers in the north.

Putting cattle in ranches is just going to cause meat scarcity in Nigerian. Ranch them up north, no food for 6 months each year.

Ranch them in the south, tsetsefly kills substantial amounts of them. Only solution is alternative feeding
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ashjay001:


Well written, but, if I may ask, how did u come abt ur alternate ranching?

Martins301:


I nor know say u get sense like this. I be dey plan to arrange coke bottle for your head d day I go jam you for real.... But I may just reconsider.... Next time, no just carry dey ban person... First investigate wetin cause the katakata. Good night.

Ojiofor:


See reasoning.The question is,why hasn't the government clamp down on the criminals that have murdered tens of thousands of people and rendered communities desolate? WHY?

barapistis:


Myd is a dullard

Good but subtle answer
..veering off the main questions

Therefore providing no solution

Mynd44:

Sorry, I don't get you

ashjay001:



I would, personally, luv to av access to d source for ur post.