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Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by GetMeRight: 8:15am On Oct 05, 2017 |
BekeeBuAgbara: ipoblogic:Why are you guys allergic to the truth? The OP asked why Fulanis herdsmen (criminals among them) stopping killing people and the guy responded that it was because most of them had moved up north as there is grass everywhere now. It means that the moment dry season returns, they are coming to back down south. And conflicts between them and the farmers will start again, it's a cycle. Conflicts and killings between herdsmen and farmers didn't start with Buhari's administration but the children of hate like you and OP wanted us to believe otherwise. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Myself2(m): 8:18am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Ojiofor: Your submission is laughable and disjointed at best The OP has a point |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Lalas247(f): 8:18am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44: That’s the think the issues are bigger than just Ranching so many factors to consider too and also cost is it worth it .....and there is no guarantee it will work .. like I said we don’t have ranches in the Uk we use different system and it works so Nigeria might need to work on a different system that benefits the people and the cattle too, though easier said than done , |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by obailala(m): 8:18am On Oct 05, 2017 |
disandat:Quit reasoning emotionally! Go back to the original post on this thread and find out what the original question was. The Op asked a simple question about why the herdsmen wahala seems to be on low key right now. The dude you quoted gave an answer which seems logical to the specific question raised by the thread. So what exactly is wrong with that?... How on earth did you translate that into all the political alliance explanations you've just written above?... How did you deduce support for PMB or support for herdsmen from the answer given to the question?... Obviously you were disappointed by the response because the moment you saw the word 'herdsmen', all you wanted to see was condemnation, denouncing, renouncing, rebuking and insulting of PMB irrespective of what the question was. People just need to get a grip of their emotions. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by tk4rd: 8:19am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44:If I understand you well,, you are saying that the herdsmen killings will resume again during the dry season.?? |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by OjukwuWarBird: 8:19am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44: Normally, I avoid your comments to avoid ban but to expose your lack of agricultural knowledge, I have to comment To your questions 1) Ranch them in the North and when Southerners need Cattle meat, the North can process the meat and package it for export to the South. This will create jobs for people in meat processing industries up North. 2) Get plastic pipes and perforate the pipes with big holes the size of 1naira coin per hole Fill the pipes with soil , solid fertilizers, water and grasses that have been mixed together. Water the mix in the pipes every morning with water. Divide the pipes into 10 groups Cut the grasses of each group every 10 days to feed the cows. Hope I have given you a solution to the problem @ Ipoblogic ratcockoduduwa Ojiofor I want you guys to include this in any of your post in the front page to enable everyone see the real solution to farmers herdsmen clashes. Sorry that I ignore the post earlier because I don't want mynd to ban me because of contrary opinion which is the true solution to the problem if they are sincere about it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by frankihima(m): 8:19am On Oct 05, 2017 |
obailala:if u want to hear Fulani herdsmen killing pls go and look for one and kill and come back to tell me the result.because u people didn't kill they are people that is why they don't retaliate if u kill they will also kill OK. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by paschu: 8:20am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mr. Man, why do you derive so much pleasure from abusing your privileges? Do you really think you are an unstoppable god? Why do you revel in distortion of reality. You are either pushing false narratives unashamedly or distorting truth without regard or fear. What right do you have to change the title of this thread? Farmer-herder conflicts never, under any guise, need to result to mass murder. So the OP's question is not about the conflicts, it's about the MASS MURDER. Are there no farmers in Sokoto, Zamfara, Kano and the rest of core moslem, Fulani dominated North West (not Southern Kaduna). Why then are those conflicts not used as EXCUSE for mass murder in the North West? Do you ever ask yourself that? Can't you see that you are beginning to lose your rationality due to your gross insensitivity and penchant for falsehood? Why did you not create your own thread to rationalize the herdsmen terrorist organization? The OP was asking a legitimate question: "Why did the KILLINGS stop suddenly?" Your false narrative of rain fall and tsetse fly is pure delusion. The recent killings in Taraba happened in the middle of rainy reason. And there are ship loads of herdsmen in the South as we speak. So, my dear mynd44, repent from your evil ways. Stop abusing your privileges before it gets too late. You had ZERO rights nor obligation to derail this thread. So your doing it was a gross abuse of privilege. Mynd44: 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by mechanics(m): 8:20am On Oct 05, 2017 |
MalcoImX:lolz |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by obailala(m): 8:21am On Oct 05, 2017 |
frankihima:Sorry what ar you talking about and why is your comment directed at me? |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by GetMeRight: 8:21am On Oct 05, 2017 |
JUSTICE4Nigeria:You're a joke and ignorant. What do you think as the reason why we don't rear cattle down south over the years? You never did agriculture in your secondary school days? You should thank the guy for giving you a priceless information. As old as you are, you never knew that prevalence of tsetse fly was the major reason we don't rear cattle down south. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by mechanics(m): 8:21am On Oct 05, 2017 |
it is the prayers of the righteous. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Mynd44: 8:23am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tk4rd:Yes it will. The only thing that can stop it is if the herds find food so they have no reason to go into farms |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by GetMeRight: 8:25am On Oct 05, 2017 |
tk4rd:That was exactly the summary of his comment but due to hate and prejudice, many didn't bother to think about the original question. The killings is a cycle, it has been like that for many years and we haven't addressed it. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by OjukwuWarBird: 8:28am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44: The solution to feeding is stated below Pls endeavor to read 1) Ranch them in the North and when Southerners need Cattle meat, the North can process the meat and package it for export to the South. This will create jobs for people in meat processing industries up North. 2) Get plastic pipes and perforate the pipes with big holes the size of 1naira coin per hole. Fill the pipes with soil , solid fertilizers, water and grasses that have been mixed together. Water the mix in the pipes every morning with water. Divide the pipes into 10 groups. Cut the grasses of each group every 10 days to feed the cows. Pls stop defending the backward form of Agriculture practiced by Fulani herdsmen and adopt this modern means @ getmeright and Tk4rd |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Mynd44: 8:29am On Oct 05, 2017 |
OjukwuWarBird:1. Ranch them up North. Okay 2. For that, you need to find grasses rich in fibre that can grow back every 10 days. In my first post here, I said the minister of agriculture suggested importing seeds of highly resistant grasses that can grow even with less water and on their own, no need for fertilizer or those things. Just plant them and they will grow and spread by themselves. This is a lot more cost effective than your idea dont you think. Will this idea work? Now if this idea of importing seeds work, you dont even need ranches, you have huge spaces of land up north that the grasses can grow and cattle feed without bothering farmers and their farms yet peeps on this thread ignored it. 4 Likes |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by OjukwuWarBird: 8:34am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44: Your idea is not the best Ranch them then get perforated plastic pipes to help you grow lots of grasses in a small area of land As for grasses, Nigerian grasses grow every 10days from my observation and are richer than Brazilian grasses. Nigerian grasses are one of the best in the world So you and the ministers idea are outdated You don't need to waste so much land because of cattle rearing If plastic pipes are expensive, use pipes made from clay and perforate them. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by GetMeRight: 8:37am On Oct 05, 2017 |
OjukwuWarBird: How did answers to the question that was asked become a defence to the backward form of agricultural practice by Fulani Herdsmen? I didn't get you. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Nobody: 8:37am On Oct 05, 2017 |
The fear of restructuring |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by OjukwuWarBird: 8:41am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44 My proposal can work in densely populated areas in the South where land is scarce to get. Then ensure that the cow waste are processed into Biogas and Fertilizer. These are additional 2 industries that can be set up beside the meat processing industry These industries will get many almajiris out of the streets from begging @ Ipoblogic and Ojiofor create a topic on how IPOB can create jobs for our people through this means. @ getmeright fk001Gavelslam Rotji Pastoral agriculture must be eradicated and no grass must be imported. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by fk001(m): 8:42am On Oct 05, 2017 |
GavelSlam: Gavelslam, the way he replied them is the best way. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Rotji(m): 8:43am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Human beings self, very terrible. When the herdsmen were on rampage you cried foul, now they've gone silent you are complaining. All OP's points point to the fact that he is ipob, they have eyes but only see negative, please put some colour into your eyes and we will all be better for it. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Mynd44: 8:44am On Oct 05, 2017 |
OjukwuWarBird:Okay, I will love to see empirical evidence to support your claim on Nigerian grasses especially the ones you claim grow back in 10 days, present the particular specie(s) what study you have done to obeserve this and lets talk. Also factor in recurrent cost of pumps, fertilizers etc as against free growing grasses that only requires planting We need to understand that Niger, Taraba and Benue can house every head of cattle Nigeria has and they still wont bother farmers there as long as they can get food. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by GavelSlam: 8:45am On Oct 05, 2017 |
fk001: Just being cheeky. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by OjukwuWarBird: 8:46am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44: I will give you all these you seek for if you can connect me with the Minister of Agriculture to head this project up North Tell them to contact me and I will head the project. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Mynd44: 8:48am On Oct 05, 2017 |
OjukwuWarBird:Goodluck rearing cattle permanently in the south when trypanosomiasis hits |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by OjukwuWarBird: 8:49am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44 If you really want Buhari's government to succeed, tell them to contact me because I have solutions beyond agriculture. I have well thought out solutions for education, unemployment and the military. Just allow me to meet them and head the project for Reform. as for this below trypanosomiasis I will get them the solution |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by BALLOSKI: 8:49am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Mynd44:this wonderful post should have been the topic and the useless topic by the OP be made a comment. Who even moved this divisive and ipobic topic to FP when "nauraland says NO" secessionist", seun? |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by BALLOSKI: 8:50am On Oct 05, 2017 |
OjukwuWarBird:speak to his men. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by 0m0nnakoda: 8:53am On Oct 05, 2017 |
Honestly I really do not know how some people reason? 5 pages of foolishness. THE PREMISE: what is responsible for reduction in clashes/killing Is there a reduction? Reduction from what to what. We really need to aske questions and think not react. To talk of a reduction of anything that means measurement that means data. Without that we are in a beer parlour. Assuming there is a reduction could it be because farmers have "surrendered" their farmlands.Maybe they no longer confront herds men It could be that Nigerians in their typical adaptability have now come to accept that as "normal" like Emirs seizing people's daughters as wives and so on that it is no longer news. I do not and cannot believe there is any such reduction without evidence **** Tsetse fly is ancient history.When last did anyone hear of that or sleeping sickness? Fulani hardly walk their cattle down from the north these days they bring them in trucks when they are young grow them till big and sell them locally within the same or neighbouring states. Most of the reported killings this year were in the rainy season so that theory does not work. |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by 0m0nnakoda: 8:55am On Oct 05, 2017 |
BALLOSKI:Your obsequious brownnosing is nauseating. So that? He will like you? That post is the most foolish on the thread.Totally devoid of logic or common sense |
Re: What Is Responsible For The Reduction In Herdsmen-Farmers Conflict? by Mynd44: 8:56am On Oct 05, 2017 |
OjukwuWarBird: The problem you actualy have is the introduction of a new specie of grass cos according to you, Nigerian grass is better. Thank Obatala you were not the advisers to the Malaysians in the 1970s when they imported palm seedlings from Nigerian and now they export seedlings to us. Please read this link from 2015 and you will get more ideas as to why I was sold on the idea. But then, mind has been made up http://www.theorganicfarmer.org/Articles/know-your-pasture-grasses-brachiaria-high-quality-fodder-grass 1 Like 1 Share |
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