Salaam Alaykum,

I will like to know if truly Allah is everywhere and sees everything, omnipresent, omniscient?

Albaqir, Empiree, Rilwayne001, lanrexlan

Since you don't believe He exist, why do you care to know if He is omnipresent, omniscient or sees everything?. You will ALWAYS be enemy of what you have little or no knowledge of

tintingz:
Salaam Alaykum,

I will like to know if truly Allah is everywhere and sees everything, omnipresent, omniscient?

'Does Allah exists'?

Empiree:
Since you don't believe He exist, why do you care to know if He is omnipresent, omniscient or sees everything?.

He needs to validate his 'religion' of agnostic atheism now. Most nairaland atheists do. It's gives them peace of mind that their ignorance is the right path.

Empiree:
Since you don't believe He exist, why do you care to know if He is omnipresent, omniscient or sees everything?. You will ALWAYS be enemy of what you have little or no knowledge of

Rilwayne001:


'Does Allah exists'?

# May Allah bless you guys. You've started on the right direction, and I agreed 100% with you that he needs to first make his stand known as per the existence of "Allah" before we delve into His attribute of "Omnipresent", or any other attribute he might have problem with.

AlBaqir:

# May Allah bless you guys. You've started on the right direction, and I agreed 100% with you that he needs to first make his stand known as per the existence of "Allah" before we delve into His attribute of "Omnipresent", or any other attribute he might have problem with.

Rilwayne001:


'Does Allah exists'?

Empiree:
Since you don't believe He exist, why do you care to know if He is omnipresent, omniscient or sees everything?. You will ALWAYS be enemy of what you have little or no knowledge of

I believe in the possibility of a supreme entity existing or existed but the evidence of it is weak, an almighty supreme entity shouldn't have a weak proof of it existence, so in my own case I don't know if this entity really exist or not.

What I don't believe is a personal god(s) that as emotions(some human-like characters), all these gods contradicts and so many irrationality, superstitions, myths surrounding these god(s) nature.

So now that I've answered your questions, can y'all now address the op?

tintingz:


I believe in the POSSIBILITY of a supreme entity existing or existed but the evidence of it is weak, an almighty supreme entity shouldn't have a weak proof of it existence, so in my own case I don't know if this entity really exist or not.

What I don't believe is a personal god(s) that as emotions(some human-like characters), all these gods contradicts and so many irrationality, superstitions, myths surrounding these god(s) nature.

So now that I've answered your questions, can y'all now address the op?

# In sha Allah, when you are CONVINCED about the existence of that Supreme Entity with strong proof, then we can continue on "His" attributes.

I am afraid the day you will entered the hand of WHO you doubted his existence. You denied him him here on Nairaland but He will will deny you before generation of human beings.

I pray He guide you not to end of doubting his existence or supremacy above all other living and non living.

AlBaqir:


# In sha Allah, when you are CONVINCED about the existence of that Supreme Entity with strong proof, then we can continue on "His" attributes.

Are you going to respond to the Op question or not?

FriendNG:
I am afraid the day you will entered the hand of WHO you doubted his existence. You denied him him here on Nairaland but He will will deny you before generation of human beings.

I pray He guide you not to end of doubting his existence or supremacy above all other living and none living.

This is exactly what Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Baha'i, Hinduism, Taoism, Jainism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Slavic neopaganism, Celtic polytheism, Heathenism, Semitic neopaganism, Wicca, Kemetism, Hellenism, Italo-Roman neopaganism and many others will say, so don't tell me Islam is the only true religion among the religions I listed and you denied others.

tintingz:
Salaam Alaykum,

I will like to know if truly Allah is everywhere and sees everything, omnipresent, omniscient?

Just visit voiceofthesalaf.com and download lectures titiled eeman . ,1-5 . .detailed explanation is there. . ALLAH IS EVERYWHERE IN HIS KNOWLEDGE BUT IS IN 1ST HEAVEN IN PRESENCE ..khsr

ShaheedBinAliyu:
ALLAH IS EVERYWHERE IN HIS KNOWLEDGE BUT IS IN 1ST HEAVEN IN PRESENCE ..khsr

# So, your own "Allah" in his presence is confined in the 1st heaven, but his knowledge is in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th heavens and the earths?

# Unfortunately, your Hadith says "He" is IN the 7th heavens, another interpretation of your Salafi creed says "He" is ABOVE the heavens ON ar'sh (throne), and that "He" only comes and descends down to the lowest heavens (1st heavens) at the later part of the night to hear the calls of "His" servants who are praying unto "Him".

# What an "Allah" you worship! A "God" who created heavens yet depends on "His" creation (for stability); a "God" who MOVES from one place to the other.

For a fact, Qur'an says, Surah Al-Ikhlas, Verse 2:

"Allah is He on Whom ALL depend".

* If a heaven can occupies "Him" in His presence, and other places is empty of "Him" in "His" presence, then, that is dependency of what "He" created.

* Presence in a place made "Him" a body/matter/spirit that fits into that confined space. That means "something" that occupies "a place".

* Qur'an says, " Glory be unto Him, Far away from what they describe Him with"



# QUR'AN SAYS

Surah Al-Mujadila, Verse 7:

"Do you not see that Allah knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth? Nowhere is there a secret counsel between three persons but He is the fourth of them, nor (between) five but He is the sixth of them, nor less than that nor more but He is with them wheresoever they are; then He will inform them of what they did on the day of resurrection: surely Allah is Cognizant of all things."

Also in surah Baqarah: 115

"And Allah’s is the East and the West, therefore wherever you turn, Allah's face (countenance) is there. Most certainly Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing".

1. The bold confirmed Allah is "Everywhere" in the heavens, on earths, beyond those things, in what we know and know not. Interestingly, pronoun "He (Huwa)" was used. That is the ONLY Pronoun that can replace "Allah".

2. If we say "He is Everywhere" what is our intention? He is not a body, matter, spirit that comes and leaves or stays in another thing/matter. He has describes Himself as, "NOTHING can be liken to Him".

3. Everything exists by His attribute of "al-Hayy - the Living" therefore, He is "in" everything. Everything performs its functions by His attribute of "al-Qayyum - Self subsisting by whom all subsists".

4. His Dhat (Essence) cannot be separate from His Siffat (attributes). He says, for example, "Allah is He besides whom there is no god, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting...".

5. The more you think about Him, the more you realized He cannot be rationalised, limited, confined (to a place), described with a definition. We Know Him via the manifestation of His attributes that no man can comprehend.

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Just visit voiceofthesalaf.com and download lectures titiled eeman . ,1-5 . .detailed explanation is there. . ALLAH IS EVERYWHERE IN HIS KNOWLEDGE BUT IS IN 1ST HEAVEN IN PRESENCE ..khsr

Ok, So what you're saying is Allah is not presently everywhere but his knowledge? The verse that said Allah is the forth when three people are in place, is he present there or his knowledge?

And where are the heavens located?

ShaheedBinAliyu:
Just visit voiceofthesalaf.com and download lectures titiled eeman . ,1-5 . .detailed explanation is there. . ALLAH IS EVERYWHERE IN HIS KNOWLEDGE BUT IS IN 1ST HEAVEN IN PRESENCE ..khsr

This is kufr!!! How can you say Allaah is in the first heaven? Seriously you need to go and study the salafi manhaj properly else you'll keep making foolish mistakes like this, go and study!!! You are an ignoramus...

tintingz:


And where are the heavens located?

# Rather what is "Heavens"? And if Quran says, " Seven Heavens" what does it mean?

* Diagrammatical imagination or interpretation of "something/structure" above one one another is nothing but illusion.

Albaqir,

You said Allah is everywhere, in everything, is Allah in brothel, hell, poop, toilet, dirt, disease, virus etc?

AlBaqir:


# Rather what is "Heavens"? And if Quran says, " Seven Heavens" what does it mean?

* Diagrammatical imagination or interpretation of "something/structure" above one one another is nothing but illusion.

Why not tell me what heaven is and where it is located, all I know is people and religious manuscripts depict prophets, holy men facing and pointing to the sky and pray, probably God(s) reside above the sky?

And what do you means by "illusion" in your last statement?

tintingz:
Albaqir,

You said Allah is everywhere, in everything, is Allah in brothel, hell, poop, toilet, dirt etc?

# Why do you think "He" is not "inside" what you've mentioned? It is only in the physical attribute of man that those thing are poop, dirt (Rip a human open, then you see he's a giant stinking dirt).

* Those are things perfectly created, given their definite measure with specific purpose; everything cease to exist without His attribute of al-Hayy (the Living).


# Qur'an says, "Everything in the heavens and the earth praises God. He is the Almighty, the Wise"

* Those living microbes, those existing matters in those poop, dirt, that pig in the dirt etc are obviously part of "Everything" that praises their Creator. Again, "He" is "inside" them by His attributes of "the Living", and they function by His attributes of "al-Qayyum".

* Prophet Job was plagued with diseases that his entire flesh became a dirty, stinking entity yet we believe as God says, "...We are closer to Him than his jugular vein". In fact, God was with him in that stinking state.

tintingz:
Why not tell me what heaven is and where it is located, all I know is people and religious manuscripts depict prophets, holy men facing and pointing to the sky and pray, probably God(s) reside above the sky?

And what do you means by "illusion" in your last statement?

# There are few SUGGESTIONS of what Qur'an meant by "the heavens", or "seven heavens". Although the literal meaning of the word " sama - heaven" is "above". However, for a fact, no Quranic exegist gives/gave a definite definition or description of "the heavens" being something above or in the sky. Therefore, the imagination of an upward structure, one above the other is falsehood. That is what I meant by illusion.


# Qur'an talks about exploration of heavens and the earths:

Surah Al-Rahman, Verse 33:

"O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you are able to pass through the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass through; you cannot pass through but with authority"

* For a fact, man has succeeded in leaving this planet earth (obviously "with authority" - knowledge endowed unto him) into outer space. For a fact, the more man explore this gigantic sea, the more he cannot fathom/comprehend its wideness. Here, some Mufassir suggested that what has been seen and discovered so far outside this planet, are probably within the 1st heavens.

* Some Mufassir also reason that "seven" or "seven" usually mentioned by the Qur'an is not numerical rather it only signify "plenty, vastness etc". Qur'an itself explains this, for example, Allah says, "if you seek forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them..." or where the Prophet says in one Hadith, "give your brother 70 times excuses..."

* In short, interpretation of the "heavens" is still open.

Empiree, Rilwayne001, I do not meant to disrespect or retract from "agreed" plan of not open discussion as per the OP since he already deny the existence of God.

# I am pressed to join the discussion when the uncultured Salafi plumber rushed into it with an heresy.

* My apologies.

AbdelKabir:


This is kufr!!! How can you say Allaah is in the first heaven? Seriously you need to go and study the salafi manhaj properly else you'll keep making foolish mistakes like this, go and study!!! You are an ignoramus...

u need not insult me mr.Kafir. just put up your own proof to counter mine.. very simple thing to do mr.kafir

AbdelKabir:


This is kufr!!! How can you say Allaah is in the first heaven? Seriously you need to go and study the salafi manhaj properly else you'll keep making foolish mistakes like this, go and study!!! You are an ignoramus...

u need not insult me mr.Kafir. just put up your own proof to counter mine.. very simple thing to do mr.kafir .. Hadith of rasul, hadith jariyah.. rasul asked her where is ALLAH, she said fi samah . .(in heaven) .... and then concerning HIS#his# presence. . HE knows everything coz HE created everything .. oro e ko jomi loju ..keferi ni e

tintingz:
Ok, So what you're saying is Allah is not presently everywhere but his knowledge? The verse that said Allah is the forth when three people are in place, is he present there or his knowledge?

And where are the heavens located?

YEAH, HE IS IN HEAVEN AND HIS KNOWLEDGE IS EVERYWHERE . . where heavens are located#google is your answer. . very dumb question# laughing t

ShaheedBinAliyu:
u need not insult me mr.Kafir. just put up your own proof to counter mine.. very simple thing to do mr.kafir

ShaheedBinAliyu:
u need not insult me mr.Kafir. just put up your own proof to counter mine.. very simple thing to do mr.kafir

ShaheedBinAliyu:
u need not insult me mr.Kafir. just put up your own proof to counter mine.. very simple thing to do mr.kafir

You are such a wonderful human being ,the way you distribute kufru to everybody has no match. I'm very sure that your siblings and parents will not be left out of your largesse of kufru and hell fire

AlBaqir:


# Why do you think "He" is not "inside" what you've mentioned? It is only in the physical attribute of man that those thing are poop, dirt (Rip a human open, then you see he's a giant stinking dirt).

* Those are things perfectly created, given their definite measure with specific purpose; everything cease to exist without His attribute of al-Hayy (the Living).


# Qur'an says, "Everything in the heavens and the earth praises God. He is the Almighty, the Wise"

* Those living microbes, those existing matters in those poop, dirt, that pig in the dirt etc are obviously part of "Everything" that praises their Creator. Again, "He" is "inside" them by His attributes of "the Living", and they function by His attributes of "al-Qayyum".

* Prophet Job was plagued with diseases that his entire flesh became a dirty, stinking entity yet we believe as God says, "...We are closer to Him than his jugular vein". In fact, God was with him in that stinking state.

So by this, you agreed Allah is in brothel seeing people having sex, Allah is in virus, diseases that kills/killed billions of living beings, Allah is in poop, dirt, Allah is in hell?

Now tell me how is Allah different from shaitan? Tell me how shaitan is the villain that lives in dirt according to Islamic manuscripts, is Allah also inside shaitan?

With this, you have to convince me Allah is not different from shaitan or not the villain.

tintingz:
So by this, you agree Allah is in brothel seeing people having sex, Allah is in virus, diseases that kills/killed billions of living beings, Allah is in poop, dirt, Allah is in hell?Now tell me how is Allah different from shaitan? Tell me how shaitan is the villain that lives in dirt according to Islamic manuscripts, is Allah also inside shaitan?With this, you have to convince me Allah is not different from shaitan or not the villain.

You are becoming really boring.

AlBaqir:


# There are few SUGGESTIONS of what Qur'an meant by "the heavens", or "seven heavens". Although the literal meaning of the word " sama - heaven" is "above". However, for a fact, no Quranic exegist gives/gave a definite definition or description of "the heavens" being something above or in the sky. Therefore, the imagination of an upward structure, one above the other is falsehood. That is what I meant by illusion.


# Qur'an talks about exploration of heavens and the earths:

Surah Al-Rahman, Verse 33:

"O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you are able to pass through the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass through; you cannot pass through but with authority"

* For a fact, man has succeeded in leaving this planet earth (obviously "with authority" - knowledge endowed unto him) into outer space. For a fact, the more man explore this gigantic sea, the more he cannot fathom/comprehend its wideness. Here, some Mufassir suggested that what has been seen and discovered so far outside this planet, are probably within the 1st heavens.

* Some Mufassir also reason that "seven" or "seven" usually mentioned by the Qur'an is not numerical rather it only signify "plenty, vastness etc". Qur'an itself explains this, for example, Allah says, "if you seek forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah will not forgive them..." or where the Prophet says in one Hadith, "give your brother 70 times excuses..."

* In short, interpretation of the "heavens" is still open.

In a nutshell, you don't really know what/where heaven is.

Rilwayne001:


You are becoming really boring.

Whatever suit you bro.

ShaheedBinAliyu:
u need not insult me mr.Kafir. just put up your own proof to counter mine.. very simple thing to do mr.kafir .. Hadith of rasul, hadith jariyah.. rasul asked her where is ALLAH, she said fi samah . .(in heaven) .... and then concerning HIS#his# presence. . HE knows everything coz HE created everything .. oro e ko jomi loju ..keferi ni e

Booda plumber, if you had sense, you'll calm a bit and think, you claim Allaah is in the first heaven, yet Qur'an says Ar-rahmaan alal arshi, that Allaah is over his throne, booda ode is his throne in the first heaven??

You say Allaah is in first heaven, you've confined him within his creation, you've said he is limited audhubillaah, kufr! What's the difference between the filthy shia up there and you who believe that Allaah is everywhere?? You both have confined Him inside what he created!!

You say Allaah is in first heaven, so because jaariya pointed to the sky, does it mean first heaven? What's now the difference between you and the sufis??

I understand you have to go for plumbering jobs since mass com that you studied did not pay off due to your inability to construct one sentence free of error (I wonder what you've been studying in your mass com), so you use most of your time on "shìt packing", so some of those faeces you see are disturbing you brain...but at least go and learn, you can't use all your life for "shît packing "! Knowledge first before you start talking.....

ShaheedBinAliyu:
YEAH, HE IS IN HEAVEN AND HIS KNOWLEDGE IS EVERYWHERE . . where heavens are located#google is your answer. . very dumb question# laughing t

Its not a dumb question, I don't know where heaven is, why not tell us where heaven is or you keep shut.