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Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by gemale(m): 12:33am On Oct 09, 2017 |
DEMOO07:Are you God that knows who is born again & who isn't? Being born again transcends answering altar calls & changing churches. It is in belief & submission to Christ, which becomes a way of life. It seems you think catholics aren't born again. You are wrong. I'm catholic & by the grace of God, i'm born again. I also want to invite you to be open-minded. Attend mass at any catholic church near you. Also attend catechism class & ask a priest any question you have concerning the catholic doctrines. Also, know this; churches do not bless people, God blesses people. He uses the church to bless but the glory should go to Him & not the church. 1 Like |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by pxalmydee(m): 1:01am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Jesus made it known to us that God doesn't live a building built by human hands. he sadi we don't need to go the mountain to pray. the cardinal is right on this issue. the greatest MMM in the history of Nigeria is rccg. Rccg is nothing but a business centers that is competing with other churches for members to increase tithes and offering revenue so as to build more schools the poor can't afford and also purchase more private jets. for what's the essence of more churches when church has backslide from the teachings of Christ which is to take care of the poor? rccg is the only church that run a Licensing agreement with another struggling church to use it name(rccg) and they share the tithes accordingly... business 1 Like |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:08am On Oct 09, 2017 |
gemale: Oga, I attribute it to the changing of churches, and the way the Word of God is preached in the two churches. RCCG messages are more practical and in-depth. No need for too much talk. Those who have been in both places, will understand.... |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:09am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Tizbid:Ok, i hear. |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by dataking: 1:10am On Oct 09, 2017 |
cristianisraeli: No mind the nuisance. |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:13am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Christaks:Have you been brainwashed before.... is that why you think it happens to other people?? ![]() |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by gemale(m): 1:13am On Oct 09, 2017 |
designVATExcel:If you ever feel discouraged to go to church, fall on your knees instantly & rebuke the devil, command him to get behind you. That church is far is a very poor excuse to give. Isn't it in this same country that people who live in mowe, ibafo, agbara, sango ota (Ogun State) work in Lagos & report to work every weekday sometimes as early as 5, 6 AM? People who live in nasarawa work in abuja & yet they don't offer that excuse to their bosses. Why can't that same dedication be shown to God? 3 Likes |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:15am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Empredboy:And you are the type the Bible warned us about in 2 Timothy 2:23-24. |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:17am On Oct 09, 2017 |
pweetiedee: I have seen that kind of thing too, many times within my area.... |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:18am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Klington:And what is this one asking? |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:20am On Oct 09, 2017 |
cckalima:You are the one telling big lies, o! Did you follow me inside the church? I am telling you of my own experience and you are claiming that it is a lie. How?? Did I say that other people do not sleep in church? I beg, carry yourself go find your own square root, o! For your information it was Glory Embassy parish. Are you satisfied? Or do you want to visit the place? |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:26am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Nbote:I do not know why people on NL keep reading meanings that do not exist into other people's comments. Did I say that everyone was sleeping inside the church? NO!! So why are people getting so worked up because of my comments? Did I make mention of anybody's sinful habits or how much tongues they speak? NO!! Did I pull down any church? NO!! I merely shared my experience in both places. Someone else may have a different view. God created the church. And to me a church is like a clinic or hospital where one goes to commune with his Saviour. You go to the one where the gospel is preached in a way that you understand, or that is best able to treat your case, spiritually. Simple. |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by gemale(m): 1:49am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Vivere:I have been to both & even once got baptized in redeemed but I was led back to the catholic church. There, the word is preached without sweetening. It is plain, take it or leave. No need for oratory prowess & catchy slogans. They don't have to package it or make it attractive. It is less on the ephemeral & more on the eternal. I don't have to know or like the priest's style. He doesn't have to say what I want to hear. In fact, I like it when he says what I don't want to hear. I just get the message & try to apply it as the Spirit of God directs. Whether the choristers have croaky or angelic voices is not my business. Whether there is AC, fan or nothing there doesn't concern me. I'm indifferent whether the ushers smile or frown, are polite or rude. All I want is to hear God's word, pray & receive Jesus body, blood, soul & divinity in the sacrament of the Eucharist. I ask myself "if the rapture happened & God forbid, i missed it, would I still be looking at all these things? Would I be listening raptly to someone testifying how God blessed him with a huge contract because he sowed or how a sister finally got married after a long search? ". Anybody who needs to still be petted & cajoled with fancy words to forsake iniquity & do God's will needs to closely examine him/herself well. 3 Likes |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 1:57am On Oct 09, 2017 |
gemale:Oga, nobody is being petted with any sweet words or cajoling. I did not go looking for oratory or catchy slogans. I went for the Word of God, and prayers. Have all the people in your own church forsaken iniquity, or are they all doing God's will? I cannot tell a pastor what to preach, since I did not anoint him. You went back to a church that works for you, and I decided to enter a church that works for me. We are not the same people. The Holy Communion is also served in RCCG. So there really is no need for any long talk. Peace. |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by rhektor(m): 2:21am On Oct 09, 2017 |
tintingz: And who is to spearhead the development? |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Yemiseun(m): 3:34am On Oct 09, 2017 |
"Finland has the most stable economy in world today. There are less than 20 churches in Finland. Switzerland has the second most stable economy in the world. Switzerland has less than 30 churches. Denmark is the third most stable economy in the world. Denmark has about 23 churches in it. These are countries considered largely atheist in nature, yet so blessed. Come to Owerri town, SE Nigeria, from MCC junction to Toronto junction, there are 36 churches. That stretch of about 5 km harbours 36 churches, and mosque in sabo market, more churches than the entire Switzerland. In Owerri l counted 97 churches on one street and same is mosque in Kano Kaduna, According to CAC, Nigeria has over 23,000 registered churches, mosque is countless We have more churches/mosque than schools and hospitals combined. More clergymen than doctors and teachers combined. Everyone is either born again or serving Allah Yet none of those claims reflects in the expected moral elevation of society. We are still one of the greediest, laziest, corrupt, deceitful, hypocritical and hateful set of beings on the planet today, with all our Religion Our people need to draw the line between religiosity and spirituality." 3 Likes |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by kilokeys(m): 4:12am On Oct 09, 2017 |
gare: We need more companies.. The plethora of gullible converts in crass ignorance shaking their buttocks in spiritual ecstasy is common place in Nigeria. Pple ought to work and pray. NOT JUST pray and wish. 1 Like |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by asamaigho(m): 4:27am On Oct 09, 2017 |
I STOPPED READING RIGHT HERE! What kind of churches are you talking about? Look at traffic in Lagos for example, and those who are pastors are traders and a good number of them are businessmen. Such churches in most cases are more like business houses! Look at the number of churches springing up in Lagos. If the Muslims start building mosques like that, does it show that Nigeria is a religious country? CANT HE (OKOGIE) MAKE HIS POINT WITHOUT MENTIONING MUSLIMS,OR IS HE TRYING TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT. I THINK PUBLIC CRITICISM OF YOUR OWN RELIGION IS IMMATURE,THERE ARE BETTER WAY TO PASS THE MESSAGE,NO WONDER OTHERS MOCK CHRISTIANITY. OKOGIE PLEASE |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by riseabovehate: 4:53am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Ezionye:You have been brain washed |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by thunderbabs: 5:12am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Thank u sir for that observation. Pple dnt fear God. Spread the gospel is different from spread church buildings...... |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Legolast: 5:20am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Mordyb: Mr. Man huge the truth even if it is bitter How many tithe payers can go covenant University and redeemers university? |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by BISHOPKELLY(m): 5:46am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Vivere: it seen you are still a child? how old are you? |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 5:53am On Oct 09, 2017 |
BISHOPKELLY:Why do you want to know? Will the info put more food on your table? ![]() |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by menxer: 6:06am On Oct 09, 2017 |
akinade28: And to be Christlike, you must first of all act like Jesus by questioning some things, e.g. why the "priests" are turning the "house of God" into a mall? |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Ignyte(m): 6:11am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Tolexander: Okogie is from the Catholic Church. Adeboye cannot have as many members as the Catholic Church and so, why cardinal go fear |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Ignyte(m): 6:16am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Vivere: I'm not religiously inclined but I hope you know that Catholic Holy Communion is different from what RCCG gives |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Klington: 6:18am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Vivere:
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Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Vivere: 6:24am On Oct 09, 2017 |
Ignyte:There is no difference. It is the same wafer & wine - body & blood of our Lord Jesus. I have received the sacrament in both churches. Once you understand the significance, there is no problem. The only difference is the names given to it. Period. 1 Like |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by Spylord48: 6:27am On Oct 09, 2017 |
DEMOO07: please read in between the line.You can hardly see 2 or 3 Catholic church in a street. Even some other churches but RCCG own is so different, 3 redeem churches in a street. Is that one not madness |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by riczy(m): 6:31am On Oct 09, 2017 |
If prayer houses n church centers were industries n fledging industries, hunger wud av been primordial in our minds |
Re: Cardinal Okogie Slams Pastor Adeboye For Building Churches Everywhere by designVATExcel: 6:54am On Oct 09, 2017 |
cckalima: There's a process before becoming a redeemed pastor. Most old generational churches - Winners, Living Faith, CAC, Mountain of Fire, Deeper Life, etc, have a well defined process in ordaining pastors. But these new generation churches eh, infact I saw one under 30 young guy recently who called himself a pastor. People can just wake up one day, label themselves pastors, rent a building and finish. It's unfortunate really. Nigerians too are very guilible, looking everywhere for cheap cheap miracle. 1 Like |
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