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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:39am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: You are confusing a moir. ![]() Is 3-4-3 the only attacking formation or are you saying no National team football team plays attacking football? Please explain your point. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by adegwurulez(m): 11:40am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie:Oh Joebie, God bless you for this. I couldn't have said it better. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:41am On Oct 10, 2017 |
ProfOrlando: We have over flogged that keeper issue. Time to discuss our attack. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:42am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Big forward refers to strikers who use a lot of their physical attributes to cause havoc against their oppositions. While mobile forwards rely a lot on their off/on the ball pace and skills to cause havoc. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:43am On Oct 10, 2017 |
I wonder why we should drop a goalkeeper who can Python Dance. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:44am On Oct 10, 2017 |
femianski:Fine point. Mickael2 has said that the best is a striker that combines both Iheanacho and Ighalo in one package. And that's great but the question is where we gon find him? We need one good striker. Nwakaeme I doubt will make it to the World Cup if we find one. He will be the fall guy barring any injuries to Ighalo or Iheanacho. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:45am On Oct 10, 2017 |
femianski:Double post |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie: Either Tammy wants us or he is waiting for Tunde. It is as simple as that. For now, he has made it clear that the U21 of England is his focus. Finito. Blaming Pinnick's ill-timed announcement is like complaining about the cheap ring a man used to propose. If the young man wants the Queen, give him the Queen. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:48am On Oct 10, 2017 |
blueto:who noticed Moses has made every single worldcup African eleven in every qualifying he has participated. ... Is he en route to his first AFPOTY ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bossto(m): 11:49am On Oct 10, 2017 |
why are some people castigating ighalo already??..cos of those chances he missed,??....not even clear chances for that matter!!!....hahaha maybe i would take you guys serious when you name a striker that doesn't/hasn't miss(ed) chances !!! And to think that you guys are not considering the pressure and tension the players (especially the striker) were under is below the belt.. As for KC,he is so left-footedness that he can't do ANYTHING with the right foot... though he s very clinical. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:49am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:I saw something in Balogun that made me shiver a bit. I feel we need one or two piece in that defence (not including the GK) one or two in the midfield and one in the attack. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:49am On Oct 10, 2017 |
No need for long story. Play an offensive set up and keep it tight at the back. Play the most lethal finisher. People be talking like Nacho does not assist. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:51am On Oct 10, 2017 |
bossto: No one is castigating Ighalo. I am just pointing out that if Iheanacho had that exact performance, most from the Big powerful strikers crew would have been on Nacho's neck. Fakt. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:51am On Oct 10, 2017 |
adegwurulez: Movement around the box /positioning is what seperates a good striker from an average one. Watch CR7 and Van nisterooy, top class movement will get you more goals. Ighalo was too static in that scenario. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:54am On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:That statement was made in reference to your post on Onyekuru and Iheanacho fitting a more offensive set up and Tammy the Conservative set up. I am trying to say that at the World Cup teams are more conservative perhaps because it's tournament football, time is short for experiments. The 3-4-3 is in vogue as in its been reinvented. I wanted to know how many national teams are set up to play that way. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:56am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Joebie: How can you disagree with Iheanacho pressing better than Ighalo? It was so obvious in the last game. Mikel had to do it. Ighalo could not. If Nacho was there, we would have pressed with more intensity. Nacho trumps in that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:57am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Yeah, Balogun, particularly in that first half. Pace is his challenge. Rohr needs to work on that. It means he has to work on his positioning to compensate of that lack of pace. Uche Okechukwu was not the quickest of defenders but he made up for it with his excellent positional abilities. Same goes for Martesacker of Arsenal. Our midfield remains our major strength. Rohr just made a wrong choice of introducing Agu instead of Etebo. He have depth in that midfield. Though introduction of quality new blood will further boost that department. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:58am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Most teams that excel at the World Cup are more offensive teams. We have played offensive systems under Rohr and did well too. Playing offensively for the Super Eagles can not equate to experiment. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:01pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
krattoss:That guy was rampant on Saturday though not as effective in his runs like at other times. Truly he is the one that drives our attack. He defends too and he never tires out. I wonder where his reserve of strength and power comes from. If he has a good left back who combines with him on the left it would really be prime football. Aina showed some attacking flair, combining beautifully with Moses but I still prefer Aina playing on the right. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:04pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Those teams you make reference to that excel at world cup are more offensive because they have the quality to be more offensive. Being offensive or defensive depends a great deal on the nature of the opposition. IE your quality vs the quality of your opponent Let Togo go and play Brazil and you expect Togo to play offensive football. I am even going far sef. If Nigeria is to play Brazil expect us to play offensive football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 12:04pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
ProfOrlando: We need a keeper?... Better say only you need a keeper more because as for me. Ik ezenwa is our best bet outside Ikeme & Enyeama Because of just one error, you people have changed tune. Forgetting that ezenwa stats so far has been top notch. What else do we want?... All keepers in the world must concede and will still continue to concede until tomorrow. Ezenwa is good and tested, his calmness and confidence is top notch and will come in handy in the world cup. You guys should stop calling for players head after any "not too good" match. Our present team players are top notch and good enough. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:05pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Weaknesses in our team Alternatives to the Oyibo Wall.. A new left back Limited Striking Options Potential Solutions I. Awaziem is 3rd choice but he is very green. Omeruo can be decent on his day but does not always inspire confidence. I think both players can do the job but i 'd like to see us chase Felix Udoukhai. That boy has been outstanding in the bundesliga, also a green horn but it is only a matter of time before Germany come calling. He is that good. 2. Elderson has sometimes been unfairly targeted but it is obvious that the Zambian team saw his wing as the weak point. He needs to be replaced. Ola Aina can certainly do a great job there. No one is displacing Shehu at RB, he has been world class. Needs to move out of cyprus. 3. Ighalo can blow hot and cold. Dessers is an exciting option to me. He has declared for Nigeria so why not? If Tammy is willing, he should also be invited. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by adegwurulez(m): 12:08pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Our forwards should press as a unit. Presently, only Iheanacho does that upfront. At a point in the Algeria game he was starting to look stupid, I think someone even coined it as "running up and down like a headless chicken. I like Iheanacho and etebo for this. You can never overstate the immense pressure the opposing side face when every member of a team plays a part in pressing. If you watched pep's barca, you'd appreciate this. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:11pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Let's start dropping our 30-35 MAN preliminary list dt would b called for World cup camping b4 d final 23 man list is released by but NB...no mention any MUMU player o because say he dey play week in week out for one lower league in scandevian countries or any order UNKNOWN region |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:11pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
maybe we have a different understanding as regards the terminology, pressing. TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:12pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
bossto:Guy there was tension that day. I really didn't enjoy watching the match. In fact I felt we were poor. But after the match I rewatched the match and I saw that we weren't poor. Only there was too much pressure, too much expectation and the Zambians were dogged. The fact is the match was interesting with wave after wave of attack alternated by both sides. What the Zambians did was to make sure they broke up our passing game by upping the tempo of the game. It made us erratic and unsettled. It affected Balogun more than any other player in the first half. By the second half the Zambians naturally dropped some bit on the energy. That goal came through 15 passes from our end and very tight ones in the last seven that led to the goal. The key is to not let Nigeria get into their rhythm. Once we do, we score. All our matches bear this out. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:20pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Good points. Let me just touch on the onyibo wall. The Zambians have really helped us by exposing that weakness. They are still our best CB pairing. I don't think we have alternatives yet, as Awaziem is not ready and Omeruo's career has seen it's better days. The two weaknesses: Balogun is a slow player and Ekong is not much of a good ball passer. Balogun's case can be solved by excellent positioning. Uche Okechukwu and Yobo had that issue but made up for it with positioning. It is an early warning signal to us. Age is no longer on Balogun's side. On Ekong's occasional wrong passes, such happens mostly due to two reasons: 1. Over confidence. 2. Lack of confidence. The team's psychologist needs to help us out here. Cos we know Ekong is better than those errors. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:20pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
krattoss:Are we screaming down his neck to that effect? We both know that if we don't settle the midfield issue now, twill be detrimental at the world cup. Mikel 'Humility' Obi isn't the agile player he once was(must we wait 4 his retirement b4 replacement?). Besides these 2 are good, younger than him. Stop doing asif you didn't notice lapses during that game in Uyo. (a controller will string passes with teammates to keep longer possession, frustrating opponents 2 ruin their gameplan if possible; Iwobi caused the longest passes that led to the goal=15) A call for a better fix CANT BACKFIRE!! Simple and straightforward. arggh. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:21pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s:I posted before how a Zambian with one deft touch put Echiejile behind him. I was wrong. It was Balogun and he couldn't catch up with the guy. But this emphasises why we need a very good left back cos where that guy beat Balogun was where Echiejile was supposed to be. Since he lacks pace then the left back has to be excellent. So that Balogun will be rarely drawn out. He's quite good with making interceptions and anticipating danger. Notice we ain't saying the same thing to Ekong(except his pssses) and the reason is because Abdullahi is posting peak performances. Echiejile did good but at the World Cup we want and should have the best. Let dem Odegbami talk to Ojokojo to release that his son Jordan Torunarigha. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:23pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida:luckily, our patience can span 8months; enough time for his improvement. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:24pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Icon4s: I also think Balogun was very nervous in the game. He even cried after.. I think that nervousness affected him in the first half especially. Ekong has always had that passing problem. It has gotten much better now sef. I think he sometimes panics under pressure. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:26pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Mujtahida: In modern day football, Full backs over-lap a lot. So it is common sight seeing CBs covering for one LB or RB that overlapped out of position and could not recover quickly enough. I think it is age related. Balogun is ageing. |
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