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Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 9:43am On Oct 10, 2017 |
bigfish3k:A corruption avenue that Kachikwu himself never revealed when he was still GMD of NNPC and was also approving contracts using the same structure? 2 Likes |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 11:35am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: He was also the acting minister then so the "state minister" was aware apart from the President. He did not constitute any NTB on his own but implemented the recommendation of the BPP. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 11:41am On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: This interpretation is flawed. There is nothing in the rejoinder that said the GMD has powers to get approval directly from the Petroleum Minister. In fact, according to Baru, he only needed to sit with his GEDs and approve contracts. If the contract valuation was above a certain limit, he deferred it to FEC for approval. The question we now asked him in return was WHO TOOK THE APPROVAL TO THE FEC? He cannot say the President because he only chairs that FEC as the President and not the Minister. If he says Ibe Kachikwu he has lied because Dr. Kachikwu has denied him. And while he is at it maybe he should tell us if NTB is responsible for appointments within NNPC without the consent of the NNPC board which Kachikwu chairs? 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 11:52am On Oct 10, 2017 |
CeterisXVII: If Kachikwu was implementing the NTB based on BPPs advice you cannot differentiate it from him acting as the minister of the ministry at the point in time. That is what you are still not getting. In his capacity it is clear that the minister (whether for state or otherwise) was represented in the board as well as the GMD. You are the one trying ever so hard to make a clear act of mischief look like the law. So if PMB as Petroleum minister wanted to chair the NTB will Baru refer him to BPPs advice? If he would not do that to PMB why Kachikwu? The law makes ZERO provisions for the Petroleum Minister to approve of contracts as engendered by the NTB so why was Baru still seeking PMBs approval when he did not need to? And forget that talk about the NNPC act. If PMB needed a figure head in the sector then Kachikwu would not have taken the apointment as he was courted away from Exxon not that he vied for this job. PMB vested his powers as the full minister on Kachikwu and was in fact the figure head of the ministry while Kachikwu ran the show. It was a deliberate act of mischief on Baru's part to circumvent Dr. Kachikwu and still be going to the figure head for approvals. On closer inspection we know that PMB has been in and out of health all the while so who really was Baru seeking approvals from? No single person. Please tuck in your bigotry. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 11:56am On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: Go and read the NNPC act. It is there in black and white that the GMD relates with the Petroleum Minister. As for who took the papers to FEC, they were taken by the same Kachikwu who is now denying knowledge of the contracts. Baru said it clearly that Kachikwu as a member of FEC knew about the contracts, and the various approvals received to cover those contracts. Kachikwu has not come out to deny Baru's words. 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 12:11pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII:Oh now you agree that Kachikwu implemented the BPP recommendation. But when Baru used the same NTB recommend by BPP, it became a crime even though the BPP recommended it. 2 Likes |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 12:12pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: For him to have been both Minister of State and GMD NNPC was even wrong. It ignored the principle of checks and balances. 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 12:17pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: You have always ignored the fact that the NNPC Act does not recognise any Minister of State! This has nothing to do with bigotry. Buhari was the substantive Petroleum Minister, and still remains so. Kachikwu just wants to exercise powers that are not backed by any known law. Buhari delegated all his functions to Osinbajo, when he was ill, so Osinbajo would have been regarded as acting Petroleum Minister, and not Kachikwu. 2 Likes |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by yakbauer: 1:32pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
GavelSlam: Thanks for the observation, I truly meant Kachikwu 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:02pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: Yes the GMD relates with the Petroleum minister but not necessarily with respect to matters involving contract approvals. That is why Deziani got a couple GMDs fired at will - whenever they tried to be smart by half and went behind her back. Which is what Baru was doing while pretending to be following the law. As for your second point, it is null and void because Kachikwu refuted that claim through his post. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:06pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: No, the "crime" here is in not following the spirit of the recommendation by BPP. Indeed, when BPP prescribed that advice Kachikwu was acting minister and GMD. In effect, both Minister and GMD were represented in that board through him. And Baru was congnizant of this fact that is why instead of seeking Kachikwu's approval he claimed he was going directly to the PMB - which is a lie because PMB vested his authority as the full minister to Kachikwu and not Yemi Osinbajo or whoever you claimed. Osibanjo was only coordinator of the economy. That was the term constructed. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Nobody: 2:08pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
The north is anything but naive. The south is exactly the opposite. 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:09pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: It did not as Buhari at the time was to be the substantive minister who oversaw Kachikwu. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:13pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII:Kachikwu has not responded to Baru's letter. So when was it refuted? As for Diezani, we all know that GEJ was weak, and he abdicated many of his powers in relation to the Petroleum sector, to Diezani. She could hire and fire at will, because GEJ allowed her to do so, and we can all see the result today. Buhari has not given Kachikwu such powers and freedom, like GEJ gave to Diezani. And that is where the issue lies. Kachikwu wants to exert powers over Baru, that are not backed by law with respect to approvals and contracts. There is no law, regulation or constitutional role for a Minister of State to interfere in NNPC daily functions, with respect to issue of contracts. Baru knows that. Buhari too, knows that. But Kachikwu does not, and wants to exercise powers over NNPC, that have not been assigned to him by law. 2 Likes |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:16pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: The Act did not need to recognize the Minister of state. The Minister of state gets his powers through delegation and he was delegated all the functions of the full Minister whilst still maintaining the appellation "State Minister". If that were not so, PMB should have in the same vein appointed himself the chairman of the NNPC board (which is usually assigned to the Pet minister) instead he appointed Dr. Kachikwu to chair the NNPC board (thinking it gave him oversight functions over Baru) and Baru knows it. That is why it was pure mischief to still bypass and claim he was getting his approvals from the president himself. That was a wanton show of insubordination on his part even though he is hiding behind the BPPs recommendation to do so. PMB should either appoint Dr. Kachikwu the full Minister of Petroleum Resources, Publicly and legally delegate all his authority to him or fire him and watch what will happen to the O&G sector. You can't use his clout, name and face to spearhead the reforms but then denigrate him through ethnic biases and bigotry. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:18pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: Kachikwu's first claim already stated that those approvals including the ones presented to FEC were done without his consent. I don't know what you want to hear again. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:19pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: Please provide evidence that Buhari vested his powers as Petroleum Minister in Kachikwu, when he was away. We don't need to rely on hearsay. The same Buhari that did not leave a handover note for Osinbajo the first time he went on leave? If Buhari vested his full powers as Petroleum Minister in Kachikwu, he would not have entertained Baru's direct requests, without asking him to pass it through Kachikwu. Osinbajo was acting President, with full powers to act in Buhari's absence. Senate was aware of this and there was written documented evidence to this effect! 2 Likes |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:27pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII:You are wrong. The NNPC ACT is what prescribes the functions the NNPC is expected to carry out and ascribes roles and responsibilities to the relevant parties. So everyone takes their bearing from that law. Show us where Kachikwu was given those powers to award contracts in writing, as Minister of State. Most of the reforms Kachikwu carried out were done when he was GMD NNPC, and reporting to Buhari, who was substantive Petroleum Minister. His actions were backed by NNPC Act and other relevant laws, because as GMD NNPC even if he wasn't Minister of State, he could carry out such reforms, once he had the backing of the Petroleum Minister - Buhari. Nobody used Kachikwu's clout to carry out anything. He was fulfilling his duties at that time as GMD NNPC, but when that role ended, his powers were greatly reduced. 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:31pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: So what evidence have you provided to show that PMB entertained Baru's direct requests? Nothing because he did not. He was not aware which is why Kachikwu is "reporting" the issue to him. Baru was just making approvals on his own and pretending to be doing so under the guise of working through the NTB |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:35pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: Sorry but this is unadulterated sophistry. Osinbajo was exactly this and nothing more which includes being Petroleum Minister in PMBs stead. Or should we assume Osinbajo was also allowed to take Aisha to za oza room when PMB was away? |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:37pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII:You were the one that claimed Baru was going directly to Buhari to get approvals., weren't you? Wasn't that why you said he sidelined Kachikwu? Weren't you the one who said Kachikwu did not submit documents to FEC for approval but Baru? I merely responded to your earlier comment. There is nothing in writing to say Baru made approvals on his own. He clearly explained how each approval was obtained and the relevant laws guiding each one. Go back and read Baru's comments all over again. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:39pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: You are the one who is wrong. I did not say he awarded contracts as Minister of State but that in occupying both positions the Minister of State and GMD were in the know. Not the case we have today where the GMD does what he likes and claims he has the backing of the President. After all, we saw how PMB had to send some people back from London who came to ask for his approval of certain things even after Osinbajo had given such approvals. He told them to simply listen to his vice to whom he had delegated all his authority to. Which begs the question - if PMB was in the know, why then is Kachikwu reporting to him? Your guess is as good as mine. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:41pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII:Oga, you can call it whatever you want. The truth is clear to everyone. Buhari delegated his functions as President and Petroleum Minister to Osinbajo to act on his behalf in terms of matters pertaining to the nation, when he was away. This is on record. End of story. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:43pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: Ask Kachikwu why he was reporting to PMB. Kachikwu did not know the limit of his powers or he had lost sight of it. That is what led to this fiasco. 1 Like |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:45pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: Yea, he said he made such contract approvals through the NTB which he chairs and his GEDs act as floor members. Yea...right. They were going to challenge someone who could reappoint them without the consent of even the President. As for him claiming he got certain other approvals from the FEC I asked you who tabled the issue to the FEC? You started with PMB and when I said PMB was ill you said he delegated all his authority to Yemi Osinbajo to which I responded The VP only took over his duties as President not as Petroleum Minister. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:47pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: Apocrypha. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:48pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: Oga, go back and read what I wrote. I stated clearly that Kachikwu tabled those documents to FEC. I never said Baru or PMB did. Baru would not even have been allowed to sit at FEC . So Buhari partitioned his functions and assigned part of it to Osinbajo and the other part to Kachikwu? You are very funny. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:49pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: Nope. He was not granted access to see his Petroleum Minister for close to a year where he would have tabled the issue to PMB one on one. Then when he wrote a letter to PMB on the issue, his northern cabal prevented PMB from seeing the letter till it was leaked to the press. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:50pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: I said Kachikwu denied doing that. He clearly said he was not in the know and only "read" about such approvals and appointments over the news like everyone else. |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:51pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: So with all the powers you claimed Kachikwu had, he couldn't see PMB? |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by EruditorII: 2:52pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
Vivere: You are the one being funny. Since when did acting as the Petroleum Minister become the duty of the president? If PMB knew that his VP would take over the issues pertaining to the Petroleum industry why have a Minister of State? |
Re: Maikanti Baru Responds To Ibe Kachikwu's Corruption Allegations by Vivere: 2:53pm On Oct 10, 2017 |
EruditorII: That was the initial assertion that Kachikwu made which Baru debunked in his subsequent response, to that Kachikwu's memo. Kachikwu has not come back since then, to say Baru was wrong, or he was telling a lie against him. 1 Like |
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