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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:15pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
PDPGuy: I pray he does, fit and convincingly deserves to be the No. 1. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:18pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
I don't think the player will eventually cut it. I've been following him. Speculative news though terzurum5: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 10:20pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007:enyeama is clearly a better gk than the aforementioned 2 and as for captaincy that's a non issue I'm sure enyeama won't demand for it, definitely he'll be a senior member that'll be respected but can't be captain. 1996 Olympic, kanu was the u-23 captain, but when senior guys like Uche okechukwu and the bull joined they didn't demand for the band, kanu was kept on as the captain. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:20pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
This one too does not "sleep NIgeria, bleed Nigeria, drink Nigeria" abi Mujtahida: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:25pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
I think for once I have to take you on this one.. The point really is Algeria planned to mark out Iheanacho.. They lost that match MAINLY because Moses was the most dangerous player. they put more men on Iheanacho. It's not like he was full of dribbles and he magneted Algerians to him. They just failed in their strategy. Ighalo performed better against Zambia (considering the circumstances of the match) compared to Iheanacho's performance against Algeria. I'm not taking anything from the latter though. TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 10:26pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie:exactly my brother, when you know exactly what will work why trying to form any yeye tactician that may backfire, even pep who most analyst hail as the best tactically have had times that his tactics failed him spectacularly, arm chair analyst forming tactical expert |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:29pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
haha.. maybe they should apply to be Rohr's tactical personnel.. Modified Playing Agu as well as a DMF was playing safe. Aina had not earned a cap. And Shehu had just stood out as a RB against Cameroon. It was the safest thing to do after Agu had played both games against Cameroon. The only poor play Agu had in the second half was when a player turned him and fired that screamer that called Ezenwa to action. He was quite comfortable for the most part of the second half. Aina coming in was not tactical. Agu as well was a forced substitution. Only Iwobi was. jihday: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:33pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
jihday: Cased already closed bro! I've got your Points and I wish the Eagles best in Russia. We all want the same for the Eagles - soaring higher in Russia regardless to the Storm and the cold Weather. Rohr and the Board have the final say on the List, I pray they come up with the best. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by KevinDein: 10:34pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Dedebanky85:Lol Brazil Denmark Serbia Nigeria Is in between a dream draw and a nightmarish draw. I'd fancy Nigeria to slug it out with Serbia for the second place spot behind Brazil with Nigeria just edging it on goal difference. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:40pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
NO QUOTATIONS. DON'T TAKE THIS REPORT SERIOUSLY NFF To Meet With Liverpool Sensation Seyi Ojo Over Switch Of Allegiance To Nigeria October 12, 2017085 Top brass of the Nigeria Football Federation ( NFF) will in the coming days arrive the United Kingdom for talks with on loan Liverpool and England U21 forward Seyi Ojo over a possible switch of allegiance to Nigeria. Ojo was approached by Nigeria last year but the left footed ace turned down the approach from Nigeria, who were at that time offering him a chance to join their Olympic team for the Rio 2016 Olympic. The forward asked for more time to mull over the issue as he was focused on establishing himself at Liverpool after several injury set back since he made the step up to the main team. Presently out on loan to Fulham, the NFF are set to once again try for the forward who has flourished at Fulham and for the U21s of the English national team. His international future alongside that of Tammy Abraham is still unclear according to England U21 manager Aidy Boothroyd, who admitted that the duo are among players targeted by Nigeria ahead of their campaign at the World Cup in Russia next year. Osas Mahawi --OwnGoalNigeria 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:44pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: how was Iwobi a tactical sub? Taking off Moses Simon(a Rwf) and putting in Iwobi in that same role is a like for like sub at it's best, how that is a tactical switch sure beats me. Putting Agu wasn't playing it safe, putting Etebo in that CMF role would have been playing it safe. I wouldn't be suprised if years from now we find out that it was Mikel that told Agu to go to DMF while Ndidi comes to CMF because when Agu came on the coach drafted him into a CMF role, I don't need to watch Agu 20times to know that he is no CMF but somehow Rohr put him there, reason? Tactical deficiency, he thought because Onazi and Ndidi are two DMFs that can play the CMF role then hell, any DMF can play the CMF role 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:46pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Naijaphobia:hehehe my last aro was at Kano last year at batta, met one fellow awo boy and immediately the spirit of aro came upon us , we started aro on some Hausa girls I don gentle now sha 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:47pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Putting another player in the same position does not mean like-for-like. like-for-like is when they are similar players in strengths.. two players can play the same position but be given different roles. based on their strength. Dynamism calls for some adjustments by one or two other players after a player is introduced. That's tactical. Modified Nigeria played a 4-2-3-1. That is double DMF.. Players drift during a match. Agu came in as a DMF. Onazi was a DMF not CMF Modified2 Rohr worked according to the options he had when Onazi got injured. You said Mikel told Agu... were you there? haha.. see assumption oh. You are forming an opinion over an assumption. You were also reading Rohr's mind that he thought Agu can play as a CMF because he was a DMF. ABi na you train the boys for camp?. Rohr was quoted as saying only Iwobi's substitution was tactical. And I have every reason to believe that. Mickael2: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:48pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: really? I pray rohr prove me wrong.... I will be so glad...but until then...the German remain a conservative coach 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:48pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007: Then we have to find another solution. Let all the other keepers compete. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 10:49pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
komekn:u love to criticize all our home born players,and praise all the English born to high heavens. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:51pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie:did own goal sef , on a funny side British intelligence agents will soon place Amaju pinnick under surveillance 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:00pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: They marked Iheanacho, putting most attention on him and also sacrificing room for Victor Moses to shine. Nacho also made movements that pulled the defenders further away from V. Moses, giving him the room to be special. What you are trying to do is take away the effect of Nacho's threat which they picked up and movement in the box and just want to heap the praise on Victor Moses. Glad the Algerian coach pointed it out. They lost because of Iheanacho. Victor Moses was in position for the glory. In Ighalo's case, he was not caged but did not offer threat due to his inability to get to position or finish the chances he got. How that equates to doing better when he was the reason we did not hit our scoring potential in that game beats my imagination. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:11pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
haha... oga. the matches are there.. you cannot just be saying stuff that one can watch again. Iheanacho sacrificed room for MOses to shine? hahaha.. Where was Iheanacho when Moses shone later on? The truth is Moses is unplayable -- all qualifiers. Algeria got their tactics wrong after watching the match against Zambia in Lusaka. Nacho is a very fine player.. but let's call a spade a spade. They saw him as the danger man. And they focused on him. Didn't Cameroon also focus on Ighalo in Yaounde? What did Ighalo do? Watch the build up to that Moses Simon goal in Younde. Also watch the build up to that Moses Simon bicycle kick miss in Uyo. It is clear that Ighalo worked hard for the team in other ways. The only thing he failed to do was convert. And I agree Iheanacho would have converted that one that fell to his left (I think), but Iheanacho won't have given what Ighalo gave in other respects in that match, considering the circumstances. TheGoodJoe: 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:19pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Kog45: Ok, I agree with you but I think Joel Obi is capable of benching some players in the 14 man list. However, I hope he is injury free and prove himself. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:20pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Wetin do dem? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:22pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: a 4-2-3-1 means a double pivot, not a double DMF. Just like you see Chelsea playing a 3-4-3 with Cesc and Kante, they are not two DMFs. Better example.....in the world cup when Germany used to play a 4-2-3-1 with Khedira as one of the DMF, ofcourse he was never a DMF rather a CMF, just because it is called a dual-pivot system does not mean there are two DMFs, Onazi was playing as the CMF before he got subbed. I am not making assumptions mind you, Agu came in and went straight to the CMF role meaning that was where the coach told him to go to except you mean that Agu did not know what the coach asked him to do? Agu is known to everybody and his dog as a DMF but the coach subbed him in as the CMF does that not mean the coach thought he could play the CMF role? How is that my own assumption? And about the Mikel issue, I said I wouldn't be suprised, I never said it is the fact. Finally how Iwobi is a tactical switch to you sure beats me. Ok after Iwobi came on, did our play change from the regular 'get the ball to the wings' strategy? You make a tactical sub when you want to switch plans to a Plan B, after Iwobi came on we were still using that plan A, just that Iwobi was there and not Moses Simon 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:22pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Oasis007:which present form? You are just listing club achievements, who that one help? He was given a chance in the national team and he flopped, na the koko be that, if he likes, he fit win Club World Cup join, e no mean anything. Like previously stated, a player could be doing big things for his club, but that may not translate to the national team for various reasons. Aiyenugba is not needed for our national team, not today and unless Ezenwa, Alampasu, Enyeama, Ajiboye, Ejide, E. Daniel and Akpeyi all decide to fall ill or get injured, certainly not in the near future. So, please, can we go back to drafting a REALISTIC list rather than Fantasy football teams? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:31pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Naijaphobia: I can bet that none here who are pulling down Tiago Ilori have ever seen him played. They only depend on their imaginations and mere speculations that he's not good enough or depend on former tradition.... That was how some just looked down on Manuel Akanji when I talked about him here. In short, they don't rate him because their tradition doesn’t suggest that a good defender can come from Galilee ....... But here we are now seeing the lad playing in a team highly rated than our dear Super Eagles. The same way they are claiming Ajagun is not good enough because of some tradition.... not necessary based on talent. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:31pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
One player between the two is usually a little advanced. Are players glued to a position? Actually Ndidi drifts. Onazi also drifts.. so what do you call that now? But you had just said it was Mikel who instructed Agu to move to the CMF role. Has Rohr not ran the rule over Agu several times? How could you know better than Rohr? Did you see the exact shape of the team after the substitution? When that Zambian played that long range shot that Ezenwa paried and it kissed the bar, what position was Agu then? CMF? haha Iwobi went straight to the right wing. I remember that run he made and the Zambian couldn't catch up with him and then he delivered a cross I believe that was the one Ighalo missed after he delayed. After then did you notice when Shehu advanced Iwobi drifted inwards. Iwobi and Simon are dissimilar players. You can't call that like-for-like substitution. Iwobi was given special instructions, and he delivered. Go back to my posts. I made a comment in my half-time analysis that we would need to penetrate the Zambians CB, that they seemed leaky there. That was my half time analysis.. And that was exactly how Iwobi scored. Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:40pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
tbaba1234: What position is Dominic Iorfa playing currently in his club? If Tiago Ilori who had played at the highest level than Dominic Iorfa (who else), then is it Dominic Iorfa that fills you with confidence? If Ajagun is not a creative maestro and if his passing stats are poor, can you please name three Nigerian creative maestro with fantastic passing stats? Show me their passing stats. I am waiting. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:42pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: At least, it was not only me that said it. The Algerian coach and the Algerian journalist mentioned it. Victor Moses has not had it that easy after that game. Saying he is unplayable does not mean Victor Moses zooms through defences with ease. In that particular game, he had the room to shine. If not the Algerian coach pointed it out and the journalist backed him, I would have been among the few who echoed Iheanacho's brilliance in that game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:42pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Mickael2 let me clear you on the 4-2-3-1 . consider the italicized, the quote and the source: Encourages Creativity "Since there are three attacking midfielders in most 4-2-3-1s, there are plenty of chances for creativity. Even if only two of the three are good creators, defenses have to stay on their toes for runs coming from all angles. The top teams that run the 4-2-3-1 will often allow their players to have freedom all over the pitch. That means that one of the defensive midfielders might join the attack and/or the attacking midfielders can act as second strikers.If you want an opportunity to be a great playmaker, then this is one of the best formations for you." https://www.perfectsoccerskills.com/articles/strengths-and-weaknesses-of-the-4-2-3-1-formation |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:43pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: I will ask you a honest question, what is the role of a CMF? Then when you answer that question I will then ask you why you think Agu wasn't the CMF just because he was the player that got dribbled close to our 18 before that shot. Then after you answer those questions I will finally ask you how many times Agu crossed the center circle in the second half and how many times you saw Ndidi so close to our 18, maybe when you answer this one you will then agree that Ndidi was the CMF as at then and Agu the DMF then that would mean we are making progress. Learn. There is a big difference between 'Mikel told Agu to move into the DMF role' and ' I wouldn't be suprised if it was Mikel that told Agu to move to the DMF role'. The first one is more of an outright, authoritative statement, the second one is a mere speculation. I never said Mikel did, I said I wouldn't be suprised if he did. Why was Iwobi in the center of the box? Didn't you see VicMo there? It was VicMo that passed to Shehu, was Iwobi supposed to stay on the flanks when VicMo and Shehu were already there? I am tempted to say that you did not play organised football, Iwobi did what was expected of just about anybody. Moses Simon did a similar thing in the game against Cameroon when he scored, or was that one different? Iwobi's goal had no business with the two CBs. He was close to the edge of the box for a cutback, that was the DMF's fault right there, how exactly did he penetrate the two CBs? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:46pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: I think I hammered repeatedly that Ighalo worked hard. Giving his best has never and will never be a doubt from Ighalo. What he lacks is movement and mobility to fit an offensive set-up. The idea of Mikel pressing shows this. So telling me Ighalo works hard is far from the point. The point is lack of mobility and poor conversion rate. My point remains if Iheanacho had that performance, many will tag him poor and will come for his neck. Yet you are here talking working hard. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Joebie: You are saying Ighalo gave assist as if Iheanacho does not create assists and chances for hi teammates. As I said, double sided criticism. In the game against South Africa many criticised, Nacho created a chance for Etebo that Etebo flunked. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 11:49pm On Oct 12, 2017 |
Journalists only report what coaches say. The Algerian coach was only covering for his mistakes. No coach will admit that they focused on one player and missed it. That's exposing incompetence. That's something you can see for yourself (for analytical minds). The videos are there. His strategies backfired. Can't you see how it all turned out for them, match after match? He was incompetent. Victor Moses worse game in my opinion was the final game. And I had said based on his standards, he performed below par. You can go back and read my rating comments. That's how highly I rate him. he still made the best XI in Africa for that round of matches. Now i'm convinced you can't read matches -- for you to say Moses had not had it easy. TheGoodJoe: |
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