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Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by iamgenius(m): 6:47am On Oct 13, 2017
Praise be to Allah.

Islam is a peaceful religion because Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, has called Himself as-Salaam (the One Free from all defects; this word also means ‘peace’), and Islam is His religion that He has approved of for mankind. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He is Allah than Whom there is La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the King, the Holy, the One Free from all defects, the Giver of security, the Watcher over His creatures, the All-Mighty, the Compeller, the Supreme. Glory be to Allah! (High is He) above all that they associate as partners with Him”

[al-Hashr 59:23].


Islam is a peaceful religion because it forbids mischief on earth. Allah, may He be glorified, says (interpretation of the meaning):
[b]
“and do good as Allah has been good to you, and seek not mischief in the land. Verily, Allah likes not the Mufsidoon (those who commit great crimes and sins, oppressors, tyrants, mischief-makers, corrupt)”

[al-Qasas 28:77]

“Verily, Allah enjoins Al-Adl (i.e. justice and worshipping none but Allah Alone - Islamic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsan (i.e. to be patient in performing your duties to Allah, totally for Allahs sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet SAW in a perfect manner), and giving (help) to kith and kin (i.e. all that Allah has ordered you to give them e.g., wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help, etc.): and forbids Al-Fahsha (i.e all evil deeds, e.g. illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies, to give false witness, to kill a life without right, etc.), and Al-Munkar (i.e all that is prohibited by Islamic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds, etc.), and Al-Baghy (i.e. all kinds of oppression), He admonishes you, that you may take heed”

[an-Nahl 16:90]. [/b]

The blood of the peaceful individual (one who is living under Muslim rule or who has been granted the protection of the Muslim state) is regarded as sacrosanct to such an extent that transgression against a single individual with no justification is regarded as equal to transgression against all of humanity. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land”

[al-Maa’idah 5:32].


Islam is a peaceful religion that allows followers of other religions to live in the Islamic state and practice their religion without putting any pressure on them. They are the ones who are known as ahl adh-dhimmah or ahl al-‘ahd (those living under Muslim rule and enjoying the protection of the Muslim state). They are granted complete rights that are not granted to them by the most democratic countries nowadays.

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) ruled Madinah when there were many Jewish tribes living there, and he established a constitution between him and them which required all citizens to defend the state and strive together for its wellbeing, and granted security to them, their property and their children, with freedom of worship, trade and travel. They mixed with the Muslims to such an extent that they used to invite the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) to meals in their homes, and he would accept their invitations. He (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) also gave them the right to judge matters amongst themselves according to their own laws.

This is how the Rightly Guided Caliphs who succeeded him also acted; they did not shed anyone’s blood on the basis of identity, ethnicity or religion. Rather they resisted the aggression of hostile parties, supported those who were weak and oppressed in the land, and strove to spread the religion of Allah, call people to Him and tell them about Him: “so that those who were to be destroyed (for their rejecting the Faith) might be destroyed after a clear evidence, and those who were to live (i.e. believers) might live after a clear evidence” [al-Anfaal 8:42].

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “If anyone wrongs a mu‘aahid [non-Muslim living under Muslim rule], detracts from his rights, burdens him with more work than he is able to do or takes something from him without his consent, I will plead for him (the mu‘aahid) on the Day of Resurrection.”

Narrated by Abu Dawood (3052); classed as hasan by Ibn Hajar in Muwaafaqat al-Khabr, 2/184; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood

It was narrated from ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills a mu‘aahid will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, although its fragrance may be detected from a distance of forty years.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3166)

The basis for all of that is the verse in Soorat al-Mumtahinah in which Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.

It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zalimoon (wrong-doers those who disobey Allah)”

[al-Mumtahinah 60:8-9].


And Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do”

[al-Maa’idah 5:8].


Al-Baydaawi says in his Tafseer (commentary on the Qur’an) (303):

That is: do not let your intense hatred for the mushrikeen (polytheists) cause you to fail to be just towards them and thus transgress against them by doing things that are not permissible, such as mutilating the dead, slandering them, killing women and children, or breaking treaties, because of the resentment in your hearts. End quote.

Although Allah has instructed His slaves to show enmity towards the disbelievers with regard to their religion and to disavow them, that too is governed by the definitive general principle, which is to treat them justly and fairly, and not to wrong or mistreat them.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

Justice (or fairness) is obligatory upon everyone towards everyone in all circumstances, and injustice (or unfairness) is not permissible under any circumstances, to such an extent that Allah, may He be exalted, has enjoined the believers to treat the disbelievers with justice, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do”

[al-Maa’idah 5:8].


The believers treated the disbelievers justly in accordance with the command of Allah, because Allah told them: do not let your hatred of the disbelievers make you fail to treat them justly; rather treat them justly, for that is nearer to piety.

End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 30/339

This is the “code of conduct” that governs Muslim practices and highlights to you the peace, justice and security that Islam brought to the inhabitants of earth.

But if you want to judge Islam on the basis of the actions of some of its followers and adherents, then you must let us judge Christianity and Judaism based on the actions of some of the followers of these two religions too. How can it be said that Christianity is a religion of love when we see that the holy war (crusade) that was declared by the US president Bush (the son) is killing hundreds and thousands of people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq?

Even if we accept that al-Qaeda has attacked peaceful citizens in the USA, and we overlook the reports and studies that suggest otherwise and point to the involvement of intelligence agencies, can that aggression be warded off by occupying other countries? If Afghanistan was occupied in order to strike at al-Qaeda in that country, then why was Iraq occupied, which led to the killing of thousands and widespread abuse of prisoners [Abu Ghraib], and put an end to the peace and security that existed before the occupation, so that rivers of blood could continue to flow because of the consequences of occupation?

How can it be said that Christianity is a religion of love, when we see complete support for the Zionist occupation of Muslim lands, the expulsion of millions from their homes, the imprisoning of hundreds of thousands, and the wholesale replacement of one people by another? Didn’t the Jews live in peace in Palestine and other Arab lands before the establishment of the state of Israel? So why this occupation? And why do Western countries continue to support this usurper state? Why does the Christian West support this state, and why was it given the Balfour declaration by Great Britain in order to kill Muslims and stir up the grave turmoil, trouble and war that resulted from the planting of the Zionist entity in the region?

What do you want us to tell you about the current situation that is filled with terrorism of Christian states and the blood they have on their hands, represented by the new conservatives in the USA, Britain and elsewhere?

Or do you want us to tell you about the armed Christian terrorist groups, of which there are more than forty-one, and more than twenty-two militias in the USA alone? If we were to list for you the operations that these groups have carried out throughout the world, it would take far too long. How about if we listed all the terrorist groups throughout the world, which are motivated by racist or religious beliefs, all of which have emerged from the Christian world?

But let us set all of that aside. Why should we delve so deeply into the Western world? Have you not heard about the Muslims in Central Africa, and the massacres and atrocities to which they are being subjected?

Have you heard about the offenses being committed against the Muslims in Myanmar, before the eyes of the entire world?

Do you want us to tell you about the past? The pages of history are filled with the Crusades in which the Muslim lands were occupied and their blood was shed for hundreds of years?

Do you want us to tell you about what happened to the Muslims in Andalus (Spain) and the atrocities carried out against them by the Inquisition?

Do you want to us to tell you about the atrocities committed by European colonialists – French, British, Italian, Portuguese and Dutch – in Muslim lands?

Nevertheless, we – as an independent Islamic research organization – cannot accuse Christianity, in the form that Allah sent down to the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Mary – peace be upon him), of being a religion of terror or aggression; rather it was a religion of peace, as were the religions of all the Prophets. Rather terrorism occurrs among some of the followers who distort the divinely revealed books, or follow their own criminal agenda, or get confused and they are deceived by the Shaytaan (Satan), so they begin to shed blood, transgress sacred limits and provoke wars throughout the world.

We believe that we can find a great deal of common ground if we agree to respect treaties and covenants, and restore people’s rights in Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq, and other countries that have long suffered oppression and occupation, and the plunder of resources, sometimes in the name of freedom and sometimes in the name of fighting terrorism. At that point we will be able to find a way to debate calmly and wisely, for we are the people of this call, as Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Quran) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.

And if you punish (your enemy, O you believers in the Oneness of Allah), then punish them with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.)

And endure you patiently (O Muhammad SAW), your patience is not but from Allah. And grieve not over them (polytheists and pagans, etc.), and be not distressed because of what they plot.

Truly, Allah is with those who fear Him (keep their duty unto Him), and those who are Muhsinoon (good-doers)”

[an-Nahl 16:125-128].


And Allah knows best.
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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by falcon01: 6:56am On Oct 13, 2017
Allahu Akbar! ! thats what you where taught. But others use different verses quote different verses and traditions to justify innocent killings and to promote violence. There are alot of verses terrorrist leaders quote to justify their deeds. what can we do about that.. my opinion islamic leaders should sit down and talk about it and come to a conclusion. If peace then peace shall reign and every muslim shall follow that path and if a muslim doeas and act of violence all muslims should condemn them and fight against them. If that was done earlier it wouldnt have reachen this point.
Jazakumallahikhairan.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by iamgenius(m): 7:02am On Oct 13, 2017
falcon01:
Allahu Akbar! ! thats what you where taught. But others use different verses quote different verses and traditions to justify innocent killings and to promote violence. There are alot of verses terrorrist leaders quote to justify their deeds. what can we do about that.. my opinion islamic leaders should sit down and talk about it and come to a conclusion. If peace then peace shall reign and every muslim shall follow that path and if a muslim doeas and act of violence all muslims should condemn them and fight against them. If that was done earlier it wouldnt have reachen this point.
Jazakumallahikhairan.

Brother, those verses terrorists misquote were not what is prescribed in Islam. And I must tell you that some people were just hiding under the banner if Islam to do their terrorism acts like ISIS and Boko Haram etc. YahdikumuLlahu Brother.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by olatunyemi(m): 7:12am On Oct 13, 2017
These are enough for those who Allah will guide and have iman. Allahu mustaan

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by princy80(m): 7:18am On Oct 13, 2017
Another lie. Later una go dey kill dey shout Allah Akbar'.. .BTW Zionists are not Christians.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Originakalokalo(m): 7:20am On Oct 13, 2017
See what a Nairalander post as a reply to me this morning. I will not share his username.

I believe Nairaland operators have taken care of it.

"last I checked muslims don't. Say crapy things about Jesus

And I didn't even quote u

U can come to d north spit dat crap I knw hw to wield a sword very well and don't worry I will make it swift

U already told me dat B4"

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Ioseph(m): 8:35am On Oct 13, 2017
Islam is not a peaceful religion. Look at every muslim country, look at the riots and the lynchmobs. The lashings, and hand-cutting and other barbarism. The death penalty for simply insulting or questioning the Muslim faith. Look at ISIS. Look at Saudi Arabia. Look at Egypt, look at Turkey. Look at the Jihadists and the suicide attackers. Look at Pakistan. Look at Malaysia.


Islam was founded by a warlord, Mohammad. Islam was spread through violence and invasion. Islam has given the world such disgusting organisations such as the Salafi movement, along with ISIS and Al-Quaeda. Islam justifies slavery and sexual violence, treats women like garbage and like tools, and promotes complete and utter uncompromising and unquestioning zealotry in regards to it's laws.

None of these qualities make it a peaceful religion. I will honestly tell you that when a non-Muslim sees news of a suicide bomber or an Islamist stabbing random women to death on a French subway, and then they hear a Muslim chanting that the religion is one of peace, all they see is an untrustworthy snake-tongued liar.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by enilove(m): 8:38am On Oct 13, 2017
iamgenius:


Brother, those verses terrorists misquote were not what is prescribed in Islam. And I must tell you that some people were just hiding under the banner if Islam to do their terrorism acts like ISIS and Boko Haram etc. YahdikumuLlahu Brother.

What about the deeds of Muhammed. Do you think you are doing God any favour by lying. No ,no liar can make heaven. We know what Muhammed did with his soldiers. His act is nothing but terrorism but you muslims call it jihad.

What was the reason why Muhammed attack the people of Khaibar?

Muhammad attacked Khaibar. He destroyed, tortured, murdered, plundered, and enslaved many people . They were not preparing to attack him. A Jewish woman, whose family had been wiped out by Muhammad, put poison into a lamb and fed it to Muhammad and the other Muslims. Muhammad ingested some of the poisoned lamb and began to feel it's effects. He died three years later as a result of the poisoning.


Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367:
sahih Bukhari
Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz:

Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army."wink We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."

Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walrma (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle ."

The lies of Islam is now known world wide.

You can decieve your followers not christians .Islam is about violence. That is how it was spread.
Osama Bin Ladin was an example.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Hier(m): 9:08am On Oct 13, 2017
iamgenius:
Praise be to Allah.

Islam is a peaceful religion because Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, has called Himself as-Salaam (the One Free from all defects; this word also means ‘peace’), and Islam is His religion that He has approved of for mankind. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He is Allah than Whom there is La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the King, the Holy, the One Free from all defects, the Giver of security, the Watcher over His creatures, the All-Mighty, the Compeller, the Supreme. Glory be to Allah! (High is He) above all that they associate as partners with Him”

[al-Hashr 59:23].


Islam is a peaceful religion because it forbids mischief on earth. Allah, may He be glorified, says (interpretation of the meaning):
[b]
“and do good as Allah has been good to you, and seek not mischief in the land. Verily, Allah likes not the Mufsidoon (those who commit great crimes and sins, oppressors, tyrants, mischief-makers, corrupt)”

[al-Qasas 28:77]

“Verily, Allah enjoins Al-Adl (i.e. justice and worshipping none but Allah Alone - Islamic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsan (i.e. to be patient in performing your duties to Allah, totally for Allahs sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet SAW in a perfect manner), and giving (help) to kith and kin (i.e. all that Allah has ordered you to give them e.g., wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help, etc.): and forbids Al-Fahsha (i.e all evil deeds, e.g. illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies, to give false witness, to kill a life without right, etc.), and Al-Munkar (i.e all that is prohibited by Islamic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds, etc.), and Al-Baghy (i.e. all kinds of oppression), He admonishes you, that you may take heed”

[an-Nahl 16:90]. [/b]

The blood of the peaceful individual (one who is living under Muslim rule or who has been granted the protection of the Muslim state) is regarded as sacrosanct to such an extent that transgression against a single individual with no justification is regarded as equal to transgression against all of humanity. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land”

[al-Maa’idah 5:32].


Islam is a peaceful religion that allows followers of other religions to live in the Islamic state and practice their religion without putting any pressure on them. They are the ones who are known as ahl adh-dhimmah or ahl al-‘ahd (those living under Muslim rule and enjoying the protection of the Muslim state). They are granted complete rights that are not granted to them by the most democratic countries nowadays.

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) ruled Madinah when there were many Jewish tribes living there, and he established a constitution between him and them which required all citizens to defend the state and strive together for its wellbeing, and granted security to them, their property and their children, with freedom of worship, trade and travel. They mixed with the Muslims to such an extent that they used to invite the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) to meals in their homes, and he would accept their invitations. He (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) also gave them the right to judge matters amongst themselves according to their own laws.

This is how the Rightly Guided Caliphs who succeeded him also acted; they did not shed anyone’s blood on the basis of identity, ethnicity or religion. Rather they resisted the aggression of hostile parties, supported those who were weak and oppressed in the land, and strove to spread the religion of Allah, call people to Him and tell them about Him: “so that those who were to be destroyed (for their rejecting the Faith) might be destroyed after a clear evidence, and those who were to live (i.e. believers) might live after a clear evidence” [al-Anfaal 8:42].

The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “If anyone wrongs a mu‘aahid [non-Muslim living under Muslim rule], detracts from his rights, burdens him with more work than he is able to do or takes something from him without his consent, I will plead for him (the mu‘aahid) on the Day of Resurrection.”

Narrated by Abu Dawood (3052); classed as hasan by Ibn Hajar in Muwaafaqat al-Khabr, 2/184; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood

It was narrated from ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever kills a mu‘aahid will not smell the fragrance of Paradise, although its fragrance may be detected from a distance of forty years.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3166)

The basis for all of that is the verse in Soorat al-Mumtahinah in which Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.

It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the Zalimoon (wrong-doers those who disobey Allah)”

[al-Mumtahinah 60:8-9].


And Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do”

[al-Maa’idah 5:8].


Al-Baydaawi says in his Tafseer (commentary on the Qur’an) (303):

That is: do not let your intense hatred for the mushrikeen (polytheists) cause you to fail to be just towards them and thus transgress against them by doing things that are not permissible, such as mutilating the dead, slandering them, killing women and children, or breaking treaties, because of the resentment in your hearts. End quote.

Although Allah has instructed His slaves to show enmity towards the disbelievers with regard to their religion and to disavow them, that too is governed by the definitive general principle, which is to treat them justly and fairly, and not to wrong or mistreat them.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

Justice (or fairness) is obligatory upon everyone towards everyone in all circumstances, and injustice (or unfairness) is not permissible under any circumstances, to such an extent that Allah, may He be exalted, has enjoined the believers to treat the disbelievers with justice, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Well-Acquainted with what you do”

[al-Maa’idah 5:8].


The believers treated the disbelievers justly in accordance with the command of Allah, because Allah told them: do not let your hatred of the disbelievers make you fail to treat them justly; rather treat them justly, for that is nearer to piety.

End quote from Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa, 30/339

This is the “code of conduct” that governs Muslim practices and highlights to you the peace, justice and security that Islam brought to the inhabitants of earth.

But if you want to judge Islam on the basis of the actions of some of its followers and adherents, then you must let us judge Christianity and Judaism based on the actions of some of the followers of these two religions too. How can it be said that Christianity is a religion of love when we see that the holy war (crusade) that was declared by the US president Bush (the son) is killing hundreds and thousands of people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq?

Even if we accept that al-Qaeda has attacked peaceful citizens in the USA, and we overlook the reports and studies that suggest otherwise and point to the involvement of intelligence agencies, can that aggression be warded off by occupying other countries? If Afghanistan was occupied in order to strike at al-Qaeda in that country, then why was Iraq occupied, which led to the killing of thousands and widespread abuse of prisoners [Abu Ghraib], and put an end to the peace and security that existed before the occupation, so that rivers of blood could continue to flow because of the consequences of occupation?

How can it be said that Christianity is a religion of love, when we see complete support for the Zionist occupation of Muslim lands, the expulsion of millions from their homes, the imprisoning of hundreds of thousands, and the wholesale replacement of one people by another? Didn’t the Jews live in peace in Palestine and other Arab lands before the establishment of the state of Israel? So why this occupation? And why do Western countries continue to support this usurper state? Why does the Christian West support this state, and why was it given the Balfour declaration by Great Britain in order to kill Muslims and stir up the grave turmoil, trouble and war that resulted from the planting of the Zionist entity in the region?

What do you want us to tell you about the current situation that is filled with terrorism of Christian states and the blood they have on their hands, represented by the new conservatives in the USA, Britain and elsewhere?

Or do you want us to tell you about the armed Christian terrorist groups, of which there are more than forty-one, and more than twenty-two militias in the USA alone? If we were to list for you the operations that these groups have carried out throughout the world, it would take far too long. How about if we listed all the terrorist groups throughout the world, which are motivated by racist or religious beliefs, all of which have emerged from the Christian world?

But let us set all of that aside. Why should we delve so deeply into the Western world? Have you not heard about the Muslims in Central Africa, and the massacres and atrocities to which they are being subjected?

Have you heard about the offenses being committed against the Muslims in Myanmar, before the eyes of the entire world?

Do you want us to tell you about the past? The pages of history are filled with the Crusades in which the Muslim lands were occupied and their blood was shed for hundreds of years?

Do you want us to tell you about what happened to the Muslims in Andalus (Spain) and the atrocities carried out against them by the Inquisition?

Do you want to us to tell you about the atrocities committed by European colonialists – French, British, Italian, Portuguese and Dutch – in Muslim lands?

Nevertheless, we – as an independent Islamic research organization – cannot accuse Christianity, in the form that Allah sent down to the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Mary – peace be upon him), of being a religion of terror or aggression; rather it was a religion of peace, as were the religions of all the Prophets. Rather terrorism occurrs among some of the followers who distort the divinely revealed books, or follow their own criminal agenda, or get confused and they are deceived by the Shaytaan (Satan), so they begin to shed blood, transgress sacred limits and provoke wars throughout the world.

We believe that we can find a great deal of common ground if we agree to respect treaties and covenants, and restore people’s rights in Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq, and other countries that have long suffered oppression and occupation, and the plunder of resources, sometimes in the name of freedom and sometimes in the name of fighting terrorism. At that point we will be able to find a way to debate calmly and wisely, for we are the people of this call, as Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Quran) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.

And if you punish (your enemy, O you believers in the Oneness of Allah), then punish them with the like of that with which you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, verily, it is better for As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.)

And endure you patiently (O Muhammad SAW), your patience is not but from Allah. And grieve not over them (polytheists and pagans, etc.), and be not distressed because of what they plot.

Truly, Allah is with those who fear Him (keep their duty unto Him), and those who are Muhsinoon (good-doers)”

[an-Nahl 16:125-128].


And Allah knows best.
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Move your thread to Islam section

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Makusidi(m): 9:11am On Oct 13, 2017
Islam is a complete way of life
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by hopefulLandlord: 11:37am On Oct 13, 2017
Ioseph:
Islam is not a peaceful religion. Look at every muslim country, look at the riots and the lynchmobs. The lashings, and hand-cutting and other barbarism. The death penalty for simply insulting or questioning the Muslim faith. Look at ISIS. Look at Saudi Arabia. Look at Egypt, look at Turkey. Look at the Jihadists and the suicide attackers. Look at Pakistan. Look at Malaysia.


Islam was founded by a warlord, Mohammad. Islam was spread through violence and invasion. Islam has given the world such disgusting organisations such as the Salafi movement, along with ISIS and Al-Quaeda. Islam justifies slavery and sexual violence, treats women like garbage and like tools, and promotes complete and utter uncompromising and unquestioning zealotry in regards to it's laws.

None of these qualities make it a peaceful religion. I will honestly tell you that when a non-Muslim sees news of a suicide bomber or an Islamist stabbing random women to death on a French subway, and then they hear a Muslim chanting that the religion is one of peace, all they see is an untrustworthy snake-tongued liar.

thank you!

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Originakalokalo(m): 11:58am On Oct 13, 2017
It is really a peaceful religion.

Try this:

Go to the market and shout Allahu Akbar

Wait and see people's reaction.

Go to the same market and should Jesus is Lord.

See the people's reaction.

Come back and tell me the difference.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by shadeyinka(m): 1:43pm On Oct 13, 2017
iamgenius:
Praise be to Allah.

Islam is a peaceful religion because Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, has called Himself as-Salaam (the One Free from all defects; this word also means ‘peace’), and Islam is His religion that He has approved of for mankind. Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
[an-Nahl 16:125-128].
......

And Allah knows best.
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Nice Post. I am sure there are many Muslims who dislike and are appalled by the violence that Islam seems to portray. And most Muslims are actually non violent. I guess the problem is that when a violent man becomes a Muslim, he becomes hardened into a Terrorist with divine mission.

The problem is traced to Traditional Islam:
Traditional Islam is actually violent and those who adhere to it see justifications of their actions from the Hadith's and Sunna's.

Modern Muslims who are ready to explain away some of the violence in traditional Islam are thought to be Kafirs (by the wahabis and other traditionalists) because they dilute the true undiluted practice of Islam.


Let me give you an example:

The Migration to Abyssinia (ﺍﻟﻬﺠﺮﺓ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻟﺤﺒﺸﺔ ), also known as the First Hegira, was an episode in the early history of Islam , where Prophet Muhammad's first followers fled from the persecution of the ruling
Quraysh tribe of Mecca.

They sought refuge in the Christian Kingdom of Aksum , present-day Ethiopia and Eritrea (formerly referred to as
Abyssinia, a name derived from the Arabic Al-Habash ), [1] in 9 BH (613 CE) or 7 BH (615 CE ). The Aksumite monarch who received them is known in Islamic sources as the Negus Ashama ibn Abjar (a christian Monarch). Now despite moves from Mecca to convince this Monarch from handing over the Moslems to them, he repeatedly refused.

In other words, the Muslim minorities were Protected by the Christians.

Come 20 years later: Islam becomes dominant in Arabia and environs AND Christians are now required to pay the Jizya and humiliated in the process.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Note that there is no discrimination as long as the Christians have not converted to Islam.
This command is from the almighty Allah himself. So you see where the dilemma is?
Should Muslims follow the words of Allah or the interpretations of the Quran by modern Imams?

Another question could be:,
May be the above quote is abrogated in the Quran?
But then, who determines which verse is abrogated or not.

So, my friend it is extremely difficult to Preach Peace when the fundermental doctrine of Islam is intact. Thanks for the beautiful post.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Nobody: 1:55pm On Oct 13, 2017
shadeyinka:


Nice Post. I am sure there are many Muslims who dislike and are appalled by the violence that Islam seems to portray. And most Muslims are actually non violent. I guess the problem is that when a violent man becomes a Muslim, he becomes hardened into a Terrorist with divine mission.

The problem is traced to Traditional Islam:
Traditional Islam is actually violent and those who adhere to it see justifications of their actions from the Hadith's and Sunna's.

Modern Muslims who are ready to explain away some of the violence in traditional Islam are thought to be Kafirs (by the wahabis and other traditionalists) because they dilute the true undiluted practice of Islam.


Let me give you an example:

The Migration to Abyssinia (ﺍﻟﻬﺠﺮﺓ ﺇﻟﻰ ﺍﻟﺤﺒﺸﺔ ), also known as the First Hegira, was an episode in the early history of Islam , where Prophet Muhammad's first followers fled from the persecution of the ruling
Quraysh tribe of Mecca.

They sought refuge in the Christian Kingdom of Aksum , present-day Ethiopia and Eritrea (formerly referred to as
Abyssinia, a name derived from the Arabic Al-Habash ), [1] in 9 BH (613 CE) or 7 BH (615 CE ). The Aksumite monarch who received them is known in Islamic sources as the Negus Ashama ibn Abjar (a christian Monarch). Now despite moves from Mecca to convince this Monarch from handing over the Moslems to them, he repeatedly refused.

In other words, the Muslim minorities were Protected by the Christians.

Come 20 years later: Islam becomes dominant in Arabia and environs AND Christians are now required to pay the Jizya and humiliated in the process.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Note that there is no discrimination as long as the Christians have not converted to Islam.
This command is from the almighty Allah himself. So you see where the dilemma is?
Should Muslims follow the words of Allah or the interpretations of the Quran by modern Imams?

Another question could be:,
May be the above quote is abrogated in the Quran?
But then, who determines which verse is abrogated or not.

So, my friend it is extremely difficult to Preach Peace when the fundermental doctrine of Islam is intact. Thanks for the beautiful post.

Islam is peaceful to those who are peaceful?

maybe. But sometimes the definition of peaceful to some Muslims seem weird. Because I don't understand what is so unpeaceful about miss world contest.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by shadeyinka(m): 2:00pm On Oct 13, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


Islam is peaceful to those who are peaceful?

maybe. But sometimes the definition of peaceful to some Muslims seem weird. Because I don't understand what is so unpeaceful about miss world contest.

You are correct!
Peaceful seem to mean "...if it agrees 100% with Islam and Islamic domination".
There can only be peace when Islam Dominates the whole world.

Some people actually want to force out the Dajjal by violence so that the end will come, where even Jesus will convert all Christians into Muslims and he will kill all the Jews (their arch enemy).
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Originakalokalo(m): 2:02pm On Oct 13, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


Islam is peaceful to those who are peaceful?

maybe. But sometimes the definition of peaceful to some Muslims seem weird. Because I don't understand what is so unpeaceful about miss world contest.



I am not against anyone complaining about nudity. It is really not nice.

Or big brother Africa or whatever it is.

My daughter cannot go for such contests.

What I am against is violence in the name of religion.

It is.not acceptable.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by OtemAtum: 2:03pm On Oct 13, 2017
Peaceful indeed undecided

See how your so-called peaceful religion destroyed the earth life of one of my ancestress, Asimi who was named Aisatu in those days.

Doctufos:



13. I being a female, am the most affected of all. For they silence me and I cannot speak or tell my opinions publicly. For this religion is bias and revolves around the males only.
14. And Sadiku said, it revolves around Allah their god more than how it does around even the humans. For they call us slaves to him. And we are slaves indeed.
13. Now aisatu said, brother, what should we do? For this religion has destroyed anything good in us? And Sadiku said, we must seek how to depart from this place and from the entire land.
14. Now aisatu and Sadiku made plans how they would flee the place. And they arranged to flee on a particular night. Now Sadiku waited outside the building that night. And he began to expect aisatu to join him.
15. Now when aisatu did not join him deep into the night, he went back into the fenced building and found her as she leaned against the wall, weeping. And Sadiku saw her body covered with blood. And he cried, what has happened to you?
16. And aisatu said, I was deflowered. And Sadiku yelled, saying, who did this to you? And she said that it was AbuduFatah. And And Sadiku got angry and raised alarm.
17. Now when the people in the building had had the voice of Sadiku and aisatu, they rushed to that place. And Salami was among them. And they said, what is the matter? And aisatu said, AbuduFatah raped me.
18. Now immediately she said so, a homo raised his hand and slapped her hard on the face such that she fell to the ground. And another homo who was a foreigner kicked her hard and said, how dare you being a female open your mouth to bring up an allegation? This is Haram.
19. And Salami said, it is true, and he went and stepped on her sister and spat on her, saying, you are cursed of Allah. And Sadiku burst into tears when he saw what was done. And Salami his elder brother came to him and said, why are you crying? Don't you know that it is an abomination for a woman to defend herself in the presence of men?
20. She needs a mouthpiece who is a male. And if you think you are worthy to be her mouthpiece to speak for her, then get ready to do so in the courtroom of Sharia on the day to be chosen.
21. So the fifth day was chosen for the hearing of the case of aisatu. And Salami waited patiently for that day to come.
22. Now when the fifth day came, AbuduFatah who was accused of rape sat among the people as if he had not committed any crime. And aisatu stood in a ring. And the judge said, who shall speak for this woman who is in the ring?
23. For if no one is ready to speak for her, then she has no case at all. Because this is the law of Allah.
24. And there was no one in the court to speak for aisatu because they had locked Sadiku out of the courtroom. And Sadiku banged violently at the doors and windows, seeking that they would open for him.
25. Now when no one came forward to speak for aisatu, the judge said, take her and whip her with many strokes of the cane. For she has no case here. And aisatu was taken and laid down on the altar as a meat for sacrifice.
26. And they whipped her with many strokes. And Sadiku heard the sound of her agony. And he hit the doors and windows harder, but no one opened the door of the courtroom for him to enter.
27. Now when they had beaten aisatu to coma, they left her in the courtroom and departed. And Sadiku rushed into the courtroom and saw his sister lying unconsciously. And he revived her and treated her. And aisatu came back to life.
28. Now when aisatu was revived, Sadiku rushed to the people and spoke against them and against their cruelty. And they accused him of blasphemy.
29. And they ordered Salami his brother to take hold of him. And Salami did so. And Salami said, Sadiku my brother, why are you possessed with the devil to this extent? Why are you fighting Allah? For surely it is a fight which you cannot win.
31. And Sadiku said, if devil possesses people, certainly it is you and the rest of the Ishlamists in this place it has possessed and not any of aisatu and myself.
32. For you killed our father and had no remorse. And you did evil things without knowing that they are evil. Your mind is as strong as a rock. You are mean and wicked, paying the good people with evil and rewarding the evil people with good.
[b]33. And Salami smiled and said, keep still my brother. For you are blind to the truth. Now I shall enlighten you. AbuduFatah who raped aisatu is not a stranger to me, rather, he is the husband-to-be of aisatu. But out of ignorance, both you and my sister take him for a stranger.
34. Has he not paid me the bride price on her already? And I know that aisatu my sister will reject him, therefore I advised him to take her forcefully. And that was what he did. And that night, immediately after he did so, aisatu came to tell me what was done and I told her the truth of it all.
35. And she left me in anger and went to weep against the wall where you found her that night. Now my brother, cease your anger against me, for AbuduFatah is already the husband of aisatu, same way our prophet Murhamid took hold of aisatu at a tender age, according to the Koran.
36. Now aisatu our sister should count herself lucky because she is already of age, being about twenty years before AbuduFatah defiled her. Go and read about aisatu of the Koran who was defiled at the age of eight years and nine months by Murhamid our prophet, the peaceful one.
37. And Allah our god did not count this act as evil against Murhamid, because it was his will. [/b]
38. When Sadiku had heard the narration of his brother, he cried saying, you are all fools! For your way of life is full of terror and evil. And you have no conscience at all.
39. And Salami covered the mouth of Sadiku his brother with his palm and gripped him powerfully. And he dumped him in prison and shut him up there. And Sadiku sobbed in the prison for many days.
@ iamgenius, call it whatever you wish, but it's the truth. Your religion did evil to my ancestors and I must let you know that. However the goodnews is that Allah and Yahweh are currently in a spiritual prison.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Originakalokalo(m): 2:04pm On Oct 13, 2017
shadeyinka:

You are correct!
Peaceful seem to mean "...if it agrees 100% with Islam and Islamic domination".
There can only be peace when Islam Dominates the whole world.

Some people actually want to force out the Dajjal by violence so that the end will come, where even Jesus will convert all Christians into Muslims and he will kill all the Jews (their arch enemy).



Interesting.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Originakalokalo(m): 2:08pm On Oct 13, 2017
OtemAtum:
Peaceful indeed undecided

See how your so-called peaceful religion destroyed the earth life of one of my ancestress, Asimi who was named Aisatu in those days.



Where is this guy getting this things from?
I like his style tho.
He wants everyone to know about his otem.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by OtemAtum: 2:16pm On Oct 13, 2017
Originakalokalo:



Where is this guy getting this things from?
I like his style tho.
He wants everyone to know about his otem.

Of course yes. If faith can come by hearing, the truth must also come by hearing/reading, according to what the light of God Almighty told Danyal.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Nobody: 2:18pm On Oct 13, 2017
Originakalokalo:



I am not against anyone complaining about nudity. It is really not nice.

Or big brother Africa or whatever it is.

My daughter cannot go for such contests.

What I am against is violence in the name of religion.

It is.not acceptable.

1. nobody is forcing you to watch or attend the contest.

2. They do not parade nude.

It is one thing to complain about a contest but rioting and harassing people that didn't harrass you for enjoying certain activities or tv programs that don't affect you is not peaceful.

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Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by umarshek6(m): 2:23pm On Oct 13, 2017
Originakalokalo:


See what a Nairalander post as a reply to me this morning. I will not share his username.

I believe Nairaland operators have taken care of it.

"last I checked muslims don't. Say crapy things about Jesus

And I didn't even quote u

U can come to d north spit dat crap I knw hw to wield a sword very well and don't worry I will make it swift

U already told me dat B4"
yes I said dat. And I can repeat it again if u transgress ur limit
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Originakalokalo(m): 2:42pm On Oct 13, 2017
umarshek6:
yes I said dat. And I can repeat it again if u transgress ur limit


Give your life to Christ.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by umarshek6(m): 4:06pm On Oct 13, 2017
Originakalokalo:



Give your life to Christ.
don't u knw that dying with d asshahadatyn in ur hearth is a gift
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by iamgenius(m): 6:34pm On Oct 13, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


Islam is peaceful to those who are peaceful?

maybe. But sometimes the definition of peaceful to some Muslims seem weird. Because I don't understand what is so unpeaceful about miss world contest.

Another Asha promoting Ashanism.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by iamgenius(m): 6:36pm On Oct 13, 2017
Originakalokalo:



I am not against anyone complaining about nudity. It is really not nice.

Or big brother Africa or whatever it is.

My daughter cannot go for such contests.

What I am against is violence in the name of religion.

It is.not acceptable.
You are using it gradually. Thank you.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by iamgenius(m): 6:38pm On Oct 13, 2017
OtemAtum:
Peaceful indeed undecided

See how your so-called peaceful religion destroyed the earth life of one of my ancestress, Asimi who was named Aisatu in those days.

Story Story in the village square.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by Nobody: 6:39pm On Oct 13, 2017
iamgenius:
Another Asha promoting Ashanism.

another terrorist denying he is a terrorist.
Re: Islam Is A Peaceful Religion With Those Who Are Peaceful by iamgenius(m): 6:41pm On Oct 13, 2017
Proudgorgeousga:


1. nobody is forcing you to watch or attend the contest.

2. They do not parade nude.

It is one thing to complain about a contest but rioting and harassing people that didn't harrass you for enjoying certain activities or tv programs that don't affect you is not peaceful.

I knew it, Blackhoc family are very stubborn.

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