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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:46pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Joebie:read my comment well...moreso, the dude has been consistent... should he head back to Everton January next year....Mark my words he will likely make the world cup squad.... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:46pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
6 minutes of football for a guy that “scores the most goals in training?” well, letz hope things get better for him New Wolfsburg Coach Tips Osimhen To Shine This Season – He Scores A Lot In Training October 13, 2017 0 38 Newly appointed coach of German Bundesliga side Wolfsburg who gave Nigerian forward Victor Osimhen his first Bundesliga game this season has backed him to finish the season on a high. Martin Schmidt replaced Andries Jonker who was fired after a poor start to the season by Wolfsburg, and played the Nigerian for six minutes in their 1-1 draw against Mainz 05. Speaking to Wolfsburger Allgemeine, the coach praised the Nigerian for hid efforts in training which according to him earned him the chance to play against Mainz 05. ” It was a decision for Victor. He trained very well and scored the most goals. He is the most effective runner and I wanted to reward him”, the coach said. Osimhen consolidated his chances of playing again this weekend when they take on Bayern Leverkusen by scoring in the pre season game they played as part of keeping players who didn’t travel for international games in shape. http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/10/13/new-wolfsburg-coach-tips-osimhen-to-shine-this-season-he-scores-a-lot-in-training/ |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:46pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Onyekuru is better than the Belgian League. That bit is clear. 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:47pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
tbaba1234:even Ike Uche. not coincidence. Uche did it for Afcon and Brazil, but silent afterwards. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:47pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
I didn't think it was an intelligent question though. Honestly I would have ignored it if not that you quoted me first. Siasia VS Rohr debate. Seriously? Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:49pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
All we are doing is monitoring their progress. Many things can happen between now and then. Onyekuru is in the current SE set up. And that's a good thing. Humility017: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:50pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Joebie:ok....we're on the same page then 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:51pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
I know many of us follow these players to camp. Rohr always gets criticized for believing in Osimhen. blueto: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Dedebanky85: 8:56pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
What's making him the best option? All the attackers trained and Rohr selected Ighalo ahead. So on what grounds are you basing "best option" for us? Mind you, with every passing day the guy is losing shirts, minutes and value on all fronts. I don't get this overtly praise for Iheanacho. I valued him very well back then but now I don't really hold him high cos he cannot vary his game play, and does not do well when he has a stiff competition. If you put Ighalo in front of the MC midfielders he'd blow the net open. Forget all those stats of last season. Gabriel Jesus came and equalled and usurped those stats. All the attackers that have played in City from Nacho's era till date have scored relentlessly given the sweet MF they posses. Also his game style is becoming to limited, just waiting to pounce and score. Coaches don't want those kinda strikers anymore. If you can't be part of the game play and build play as well as score then, I'm sorry to say this, very few coaches would play you as a striker. He needs to add aggressiveness and stamina to his game else he'd always be benched in any club in the epl. He may cut it in Italy cos they are laid back and don't run much. Also, since Iheanacho dribbled Mweene to score can someone kindly remind me of any successful dribble that he attempted. Forget all those sorry stats that are never consistent online. I'm talking of what we used our korokoro eye to watch. Boy needs to step up his game big time cos he's been on a very STEADY declining slope. Look at all the people he's been compared to have become stalwarts in their club while he prays for minutes. Rashford has gone on to become a very peripheral figure, Chai em even get mind de hold ball for freekick. And em de score am set. Chai I don suffer. Its Iheanacho that cause all these things sha. I dare anyone to say Rashford won't become a mainstay in City's squad? He'd successfully wrestle a shirt from Jesus and I'm positive about it. I digressed.... On the national side, Nacho is losing his shirt. From starter to bencher, Soon it'll become from bencher to making announced 23man squad, then from there to standby list. This is how it starts. Lets call a spade a spade and stop using all these ninteen-keredem stats to rationalize the stark obvious. If it's based on stats do you know how many people would be great. Sani Emmanuel had a crazy stats in 2009, Same with Isaac Success in 2013. Truth is if Iheanacho flops in Liecester, I don't even want to think of how he'd be categorized by true football pundits. I'd keep supporting him as a Nigerian but he needs to wake up and fast! TheGoodJoe: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:05pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
When Obagoal was scoring anyhow in training, he wasnt 'good enough' just like that. When Rashford dribbled and ran in training he was drafted shapali, same 4 Martial, Dzeko, Owen and Gerrard. Osimhen only got 6 mins with the same output?! Laughable!! Modified. His coach should sharrap and have faith by gambling and making him play than he deserve. We know thats how cr7, david silva made it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:07pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Joebie:Osimhen will do great. Against South Africa his presence was felt with such little time. Iwobi was substituted and there was no Mikel and Moses to create “clear-cut” chances and yet he took on defenders and even earn a good free-kick for the team. He showed great attributes of an ideal CF, unlike Iheanacho who was waiting just waiting for “clear-cut” chances as some people would say. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:09pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
No there is no conspiracy. What we have here is someone putting a gun to your head and asking you to do things in a civilized manner. Government funding our football is the major reason why we have been backward. We love the centralized system where we run to the center for everything, and say that's our way of doing things? Well how about now? Don't you like the new look NFF? Visit thenff.com. visit npfl's website. Go to twitter and tweet @npflstats any npfl question. How about private investments in NFF now? Sobyou also smell conspiracy in FIFA asking FG not to interfere with the NFF? My friend there is corruption everywhere, but let's catch up with civilized way of doing things. Get the private sector involved. In life your outlook determines your attitude. And "your attitude determines your altitude". Stop believing all those conspiracy stuff. If we are really serious about growing, we wil. But most times we lack the will power. kennysville: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:22pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Oliseh's boys won away from home. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:26pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
forgiveness: Already sorted, signed sealed and delivered for Nigeria SE. A natural left footed player who plays wing midfield and can easily play left WB with true blistering pace. That's the end of the weak link on the left side. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:31pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Mujtahida: Check my post to Humility on the subject and that will answer most of your questions. You haven't seen the best RB in the English Championship Ola Aina, play and have a run of games in the SE to make that conclusion. The other way to look at it is if he was in the championship would be be the best RB. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:34pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Rohr's interview summary 1. Ebuehi was injured before zambian game, that is why he was placed on standby. 2. Fringe players will start against Algeria. 3. Enyeama might be back 4. Acknowledged Elderson weaknesses, says an german under 20 player will be joining the team soon. (Either Torunarigha or Uduokhai) 5. Friendlies against European and south American teams are being lined up. Discuss.. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:35pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Dedebanky85: For a start, Iheanacho can not have a poor performance as Ighalo did against Zambia. Iheanacho moves better, presses better unlike us relying on Mikel Obi to assist in pressing. Ighalo is there because of our conservative approach. You are making it look as if Ighalo is of the same quality as Gabriel Jesus. He is not. Ighalo can not even have a chance at City because his style of play will not come close to fitting the system. Let alone staying there and blowing the net open. It seems you must be talking about another player if you think Iheanacho's game has nothing to do with the build-up plays. Go back and see some of Iheanacho's performances under Guardiola. There were build-up moves especially during counter. Also, Iheanacho does not wait in a spot to score. He makes lots of movements to evade markers to get into scoring positions. On losing minutes, Nacho made a move to a manager who is lost at getting the best from his team. In a more offensive team, he will flourish. Time and time again, it is proving that losing playing time does not kill talent. As long as the young man keeps working hard, he will get his chance to flourish. I am more interested in us playing our best than all these starting time selection. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:40pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Joebie: Did you read my post? I said the coach must try him for at least 4 times before he can make any conclusion. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:40pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
tbaba1234: That's not true. Dominic Iorfa needed to sort out his long term future and cement his contract with Wolves part of that has seen him go to Ipswich on loan. Is Awaziem better than him is the more pertinent question. In my opinion I think Awaziem is possibly technically superior, however, physical strength, speed, tenacity and outright defending I place him ahead. Add to that Presence he is 6'4" |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:41pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
blueto: Iheanacho made goal scoring runs. Unfortunately, we could not give final balls. Kudos to Osimhen for his brilliant performance in a short time but the problem was not solved. The runs by Iheanacho was right. It was brilliant. Yet, somehow someone can criticise him for making the right choices. Baffling. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:43pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
komekn:I've read your submission to Humility017. On Aina /Shehu that's why I said it's early days. And I might be wrong. But the good thing is that we are gradually deepening the depth in the squad. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:44pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Without going into long story, I disagree. First Choice striker Ighalo no contest for now. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:44pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
I genuinely feel like GoodJoe's constant defence of Iheanacho makes some people say some really terrible stuff about the boy sometimes, just to rile up Goodjoe. I get you want to discredit his arguments, but mehn, some of you have no chill whatsoever. If na me be Kelechi, I go dey sulk if I read this thread. I've really restrained from commenting in his defense, cuz I actually like Kelechi as a person. Yes, he may not be turning into the footballer many would prefer, but a lot of things are responsible for that, not just him. I tend to learn of players on and off the pitch as opposed to most of you who are only concerned about their on pitch performance, so, sometimes, I get particularly attached to some guys. The likes of Kelechi, Iwobi, Mikel, Awaziem, they are guys I like because of their personalities. I refrain from saying bad stuff about them because I know outside of the game, they are great guys and I think I rate that higher than kicking around a ball. Dedebanky did not need to be so harsh, and if he bothered to learn of them beyond the game, he probably wouldn't have attacked Kelechi like that. These players are people too, and just like you and I, they KNOW when they are not performing to their true potential and no, they are not happy about it. They certainly do not need the whole world throwing their shortcomings in their faces like some people do on this site. When next you want to criticise, please, consider the players 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:45pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Ihope Rohr changes his perspective on how the team should play. With more creativity and more bite to his attacking set-up, we have the quality to present a deadly free scoring team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:45pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Joebie:We don't have wingers who can swing in crosses. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:46pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Joebie: Seyi Ojo |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:47pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Kog45: You do not understand. Don't jump to conclusions so quickly. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:48pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Iheanacho is well utilized as a SS,d only tin helping iheanacho to thrive as a top 9 is because of his positioning But if a team wants to render him useless,d midfield shldnt function optimally as dey ought to And dts where strikers like ighalo comes in,he has d individual brilliance to change d game,prior to our first goal against Cameroon at uyo,our midfield wasn't OK and balanced yet,d Cameroonians were aving upper hand,but immediately d pass from Mikel was connected to ighalo,d individual brilliance made by ighalo to score d goal changed d game,WC iheanacho to me,doesn't av,taking on defenders one on one So in general,iheanacho is not an ideal 9ine to me,but with oda qualities he posses like passing,dribbling, he will thrive well as 8 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:48pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
komekn: As for me, with our current set-up, which I tag a conservative one, Ighalo is a perfect fit. Honestly, I believe in the offensive quality of our players. From Iwobi, Success, Osimhen, Onyekuru, Iheanacho, Victor Moses and others. If we want to make a killer offensive set up, Ighalo will not fit in. However, with the current set-up, Ighalo is numero uno. Either way, I do not feel this is the right path for the team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:51pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Mickael2:Nobody is 100% |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:51pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Kog45: I can not talk about Ojokolo but I can assure you with regards to Dominic Iorfa that is very far from the truth. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:52pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
komekn: I remember Iorfa was approached early before his injury and his response was to wait till his son was 23 years. This was way before Ipswich was even in the works. That is essentially saying if England is no longer calling us at 23, switch to Nigeria. Good thing, he is still young. |
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