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Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by akeensbussy(m): 10:56pm On Oct 13, 2017 |
Who told you a pastor is a levite? where do u read that from...your bible..that is a big lie. levites are in Israel. Levites is a lineage...to be entitle to a tithe, u must be a son or daughter of a levite. can u become an Oba in Ile-Ife? when you are not part of the family. So, tell me how your pastor suddenly became a levite...lol just because your pastor want to collect tithe, he changes identity to a levite. Religious is a fraud indeed. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 12:20am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Some Christians read the bible as if they have been blindfolded ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 2:03am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Melchizedek was not a levite He collected Abrahams tithe You people who read bible for the sake of argument should stop meddling with what you dont know. Sincere advice. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 2:53am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:question what tithe did melchizedek receive? was abraham obligated by melchizedek to tithe? I think U are missing the question....he is simply asking if a pastor is a levite.....according to tithers.... And where in the scriptures was a pastor transformed to a levite and ordained to receive or collect tithe? Please use scripture to justify your claim...no threats ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 3:05am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine: Firstly do you now agree that it is not only levites that collect tithe? As demonstrated by the Melchizedek example above? |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 3:32am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Yes but based on the mosaic law which mandates tithing...unfortunately,such law didn't exist during the time of Abraham...right? Hence,making use of Melchizedek example is totally wrong.... According to Deuteronomy 14:28 - 29 and i quote: 28 “At the end of every third year you shall bring out the tithe of your produce of that year and store it up within your gates. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion nor inheritance with you and the STRANGER and the FATHERLESS and the WIDOW who are within your gates, may come and eat and be satisfied, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hand which you do. There is one thing U must understand about Abraham's "gesture" to Melchizedek.....There was no LAW OBLIGATING OR MANDATING Abraham to offer a tenth of the plunder to Melchizedek.....however in Deuteronomy 14:22 -29,A specific tribe called Israel were MANDATED AND OBLIGATED based on the MOSAIC LAW to not only tithe to a tribe levites but EAT of their tithe.... while there was a law in Deuteronomy where the people of isreal ate and also offered their tithe to the levites,fatherless,strangers etc,there was no law compelling Abraham to paid Melchizedek anything....Please if there is let me see through scripture So please i ask once again...which LAW was Abraham obeying by offering a tenth of the plunder to Melchizedek....and please kindly show with scriptures....Please! 4 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 3:40am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:So why are you quoting Mosaic Law? We are no longer under Mosaic Law So dont expect Christians to now pay tithes to Levite only For your question, And Please has anyone said categorically that Pastors are Levites? Please show me the person. I will correct him and I will explain what the person may be trying to explain. But first show me the person who says Pastors are Levites. |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 3:48am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:I did so becos most tithers hinge their payment based on malachi 3:10 which is part of the mosaic law We are no longer under Mosaic LawGood hence tithe payment for believers is null and void So dont expect Christians to now pay tithes to Levite onlyI would like to know based on scripture who believers should now pay tithes to... For your question, ![]() Please show me the person. ![]() ![]() ask a tither... ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 3:53am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:So Malachi is part of mosaic law? Oh Lord! Lmao ![]() openmine:No its not null and void because you just admitted that tithing was already existing before Mosaic law as shown by Melchizedek. And it still exists after Mosaic Law Its common sense openmine:Believers should pay their tithe to the body of Christ Simple openmine:Please show me the so called believers that say pastors are Levites |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 4:01am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Ohh am sorry please remind me when the mosaic law stopped And please while U are at it. remind me the dispensation malachi was? Thanks ![]() ![]() No its not null and void because you just admitted that tithing was already existing before Mosaic law as shown by Melchizedek.Sorry bro....I never did unless u read what i said upside down....Please kindly quote where i made such thanks ![]() Believers should pay their tithe to the body of ChristCool...i guess U have a scripture for ur assertion....Do U? Am sorry bro...i cant help U if U cant ask tithers...am not a tither....only tithers know....thanks 1 Like |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 4:09am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine: I hope you know in Israel today, Mosaic law has not stopped? So your Mosaic law stopping is a vague term. Besides Malachi is the Word of God spoken by Prophet Malachi If u want to read Mosaic Law, go to the first five books. openmine:Did you admit Abraham paid tithe Yes or No? Abraham and Moses, who existed first? openmine:Of course, The entire Hebrews 11 |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 4:25am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor: ![]() ![]() This is what U said previously on this thread... So why are you quoting Mosaic Law? So am wondering...its either U are confused or trying to be clever by half ![]() ![]() Back to ur assertion that mosaic law hasn't stopped please be enlightened and study Hebrews 7:11 - 18...A piece of advise,Follow the scriptures and not what others do...thanks ![]()
This was what i said.... There is one thing U must understand about Abraham's "gesture" to Melchizedek.....There was no LAW OBLIGATING OR MANDATING Abraham to offer a tenth of the plunder to Melchizedek.....however in Deuteronomy 14:22 -29,A specific tribe called Israel were MANDATED AND OBLIGATED based on the MOSAIC LAW to not only tithe to a tribe levites but EAT of their tithe.... Of course,There is nothing on Hebrews 11 that backs Ur claim about "believers giving tithe to the body of Christ" Can U be a little more specific and quote that scripture so that i can see it in plain black and white? ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 4:30am On Oct 14, 2017 |
And Bro felixomor...Lets cut to the chase here and lets stop wasting our time.... I know the game U are trying to play here and U wont be the first tither to do so.... U said U have scriptures to show that we should pay tithes to the body of christ...right? Please be elaborate and prove ur points....no fencing or mind games....straight to the point....just quote the scripture here!! 2 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 4:35am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine: There is difference between "i am under a law" and "law has stopped" Do I need to break that down in English? I think not. ![]() Please signify if u want me to. I will gladly openmine: Once again you translate "law stopping" as "under the law" openmine: Ehen, seriously? Before i go in on the specifics, I will like to ask Are you circumcised? Do you practice Male circumcision? Please do me a favour and show me where male circumcision is told to be done by Christians in the new testament? |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 4:38am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine: I already did Read above |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 4:42am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor: U forgot the scripture i quoted Hebrews 7:18-19 or did U intentionally avoid that? ![]() Do I need to break that down in English?Please no insults bro....i provided scriptures so whether U are no longer under the law is inconsequential because the law has been set aside becos it was weak and useless So far i have used scriptures...U are still yet to show a single scripture that mandates U to tithe to the body of christ ![]() |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 4:49am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:I told you to show me the Christians who said pastors are levites? You dodged it I aksed you a yes or no question on abraham? You dodged it I asked you who existed first between abraham and moses? You dodged it I asked you whether u practice male circumcision that God told Abraham to be doing ? You pretended like u didnt see the question. I pointed you to Hebrews 11 You still claim i showed no scripture. Good ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 4:53am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Bro its apparent that U avoided the scripture i provided...is it that U are too proud to see ur mistakes and learn or U just trying to be dodgy ![]() The scripture i quoted states clearly that the mosaic law has given way due to its weakness and uselessness....Its there just swallow ur pride and read it up...while U are at it,U can also read Galatians 3:19-22 and romans 10:4 Ehen, seriously?This guy... ![]() ![]() Whats up with U? U are meant to explain or extract a scripture in Hebrews 11 where U claim believers offer tithe to the body of christ...U havent been through with that U are still asking another.... Please quote that scripture where believers are instructed to offer their tithe to the body of christ... Lets do that first before proceeding to another question Mr dodger ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 4:54am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine: felixomor: Before you call me dodger Read that And Of course its now obvious you are avoiding Abraham in this conversation. And we all know why. |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:01am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:I simply did by bringing out a quote for U...and U didnt see it...i guess what U are doing is called selective amnesia ![]() The question is totally unnessary...but we all know abraham came first...so wats Ur point? I asked you whether u practice male circumcision that God told Abraham to be doing ?I cant answer a question when U havent cleared urself about Hebrews 11 I pointed you to Hebrews 11But there is nothing there that shows believers are instructed to tithe to the body of Christ... If U think am not seeing well ![]() ![]() ![]() U are being dodgy 1 Like |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:06am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Am not avoiding Abraham...am simply explaining that what transpired btw Abraham and Melchizedek was nothing more than a kind gesture and can not be used an obligation or commandment... And yes i do call U a dodger simply because U have quoted a scripture that doesn't justify ur assertions...How does entire hebrew 11 explain that a believer is to tithe to the body of christ...How? ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 5:07am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:- oh, i thought u said no insults U break ur own rules There is no need to descend with u openmine:- since abraham came first It means tithing came first before Mosaic law So common sense simply says tithing was existing before Moses openmine:- U cant answer because it will defeat your argument Simple truth ![]() openmine: - i promise will, Just answer my questions on Circumcision first openmine:Sincerely, I am not. |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:09am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Okay bros this is Hebrews 11 in plain black and white.... ![]() ![]() 11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for. please show me the particular verse make i learn too |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 5:11am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:Hehehehehe Unfortunately even Hebrews 11 doesn't call it kind gesture The word of God called it tithe There is nothing like Kind gesture tithe. And it was paid to Melchizedek the priest Do you want to write your own bible now? |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:23am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Thats not an insult...thats what U are doing selective amnesia refers to a deliberate inability (unwillingness) to recall an event's details. If U see it as an insult,i wholeheartedly apologize...no pun intended - since abraham came firstWrong analogy bro.... A principle followed must have a BINDING LAW Was abraham obligated to give a tenth of the plunder to Melchizedek? absolutely not! Further more,going by Ur analogy we can also conclude that burnt offering and circumcision came before the law....Does that mean burnt offerings and circumcision is permissible? - U cant answer because it will defeat your argumentI can answer that question without my argument being defeated but its important that we conclude a topic before delving into another in order not to distort my train of thought of which U are intentionally doing ![]() - i promise will,No biggy....i first asked U So be bold enough to show me where we are instructed to tithe to the body of christ and i promise to simply answer ur question...cos what U are asking is purely scriptural and not brainwork ![]() Sincerely, I am not.Well its so obvious...its either U are trying to evade the hebrews 11 question or U just quoted it out of the blues 2 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:27am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Bro Please extract a particular scripture that quotes "believers paying tithe to the body of christ" nah....I have helped U to quote the entire scriptures of hebrews 11....Just a verse or two will do please...Just get straight to the point...no evasive instinct ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 5:32am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine: I already told u what to do By the way, you are yet to show us who said pastors are levites |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 5:41am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:- So also when I implied u dont understand simple English It wasnt an insult. Thats why you translated law stop to mean i am under the law. No pun intended openmine:- again you miss it. Not all principles have binding law. I can mention some for you Thats why I even referred you to circumcision Unfortunately, you have been dodging openmine:-You cant answer it sorry. Some questions are automatically answered when u answer others. openmine:- i already promised i will show u Just answer the questions u dodged openmine:Fact remains you have never read Hebrews 11 Thats why you could say tithe is kind gesture |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:41am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Bro are U telling me U cant quote a scripture from hebrews 11 to prove ur point? If U were so sure of it,U would have easily quoted it... Come on nah... Thats no fair ![]() ![]() By the way, you are yet to show us who said pastors are levites Go back to previous threads on tithing and U will see tithers who stated clearly that their pastors are the new levites But i know why U brought up this statement ![]() ![]() Please bro stop all dese evasive tactics....Thats not how to learn nah Haba U are better than this ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by felixomor: 5:44am On Oct 14, 2017 |
openmine:Nah I am simply proving you have never read Hebrews 11 |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:52am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor:Okay - again you miss it.Please do....and also state why according to U...burnt offering and circumcision wasn't included in ur list just like tithing? Thats not up to U...its scriptural bro...there is no brain work there If there is no scripture backing a something not even ur common sense can prevail - i already promised i will show uBro i still dont understand whats so hard for U to extract verses about ur assertions...still d same evasion...U dont need agrument to prove ur point...U need scriptures...stop fencing around and quote the scripture and save us sum space ![]() ![]() Fact remains you have never read Hebrews 11I have read it before several times and i had to read it again unlike U who is too proud to read what U quoted...And yet there is no reference for believers to tithe to the body of christ... Okay if someone ask U where its stated that U are to tithe to the body of christ which is the church....what verse will be used to justify ur claim? 3 Likes |
Re: Tell Me How Pastor Suddenly Became A Levite by openmine(m): 5:59am On Oct 14, 2017 |
felixomor: ![]() ![]() Ur back and forth with Hebrews 11 isn't helping U...its rather exposing U...cos someone will read that scripture U quoted and wont see believers offering their tithe to the "body of christ" U cant just quote a scripture without understanding it.....U don't even have a corresponding scripture to back it....So how would U form a doctrine where there is nor anchor scripture....? Chai ![]() 2 Likes |
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