komekn:


Firstly, I commend you an award should be given.

This us the longest post I have read and read again and found myself captivated completely. It was that indepth.

However, self assessment is very hard so I do not think my views can ever be considered EXTREME. On that one point I disagree.

tbaba1234:


He played a few games as number 9 for Eupen. Showed some flashes but i think his best postion is from the wings.

Mickael2:



someone said it is an unintelligent question and I am was just amazed. That Siasia is a better tactician is not even arguable, Rohr is the better manager I agree

bataderemi:
Why does it seem like Onyekuru and Dennis are not rated here? They both seem 'hotter' than Kelechi and Ighalo.

Mickael2:



someone said it is an unintelligent question and I am was just amazed. That Siasia is a better tactician is not even arguable, Rohr is the better manager I agree

PDPGuy:


In that case, Siasia could be drafted into the team. Rohr should even request for Siasia's help too.

Then, in 2 year's time, a combo of Oliseh and Siasia should coach the SE cos they are about the best Nigerian coaches at the moment.

komekn:


You comment are too generalistic to have any substance.

I talked specifically about Omeruo. My bench mark measurement for competence is your performances within your parent club and or loan club.

Omeruo has been CB for some time now who showed considerabe promise. That is why Chelsea bought him.

However to date, he has never played for Chelsea that's not progress. Omeruo went on loan to Middlesbrough he was at best average, that is an underperformance. He has played in the Eredivisie and Turkish league but on all occasions he has not stood out as a top player in what are obscure leagues. That is not a sign of overriding quality.

Consider the small boys Nathan Ake after a few loan moves he transferred to Bournemouth for £20 million plus. That is progression. Kurt Zouma was at Chelsea played a good season before being injured. EPL Clubs were literally fighting to get him on loan.


So explain how my objective assessment of his career is bias against him and or Nigeria. Unless you expect me to enthron mediocrity because he is Nigerian that would then be clear and obvious bias.

Humility017:

bro what are you saying....?
how come we Nigerians always don't learn from the past....
oliseh can never manage the eagles....except you wanna watch a quack and non-unified team...

coaching is not just abt tactics but also man management which oliseh lack....

he should stick to club football and forget about the super eagles....
and for siasia....yes he is good...especially when it comes to playing European and south America countries....
but still has a lot to learn when it comes to man management and players selection

Mickael2:



someone said it is an unintelligent question and I am was just amazed. That Siasia is a better tactician is not even arguable, Rohr is the better manager I agree

PDPGuy:


These coaches can still learn under Rohr or some other manager. With time, they will learn the finer art of man management; so I'm not ruling them out completely from managing the Super Eagles.

Remember that Oliseh quit the Eagles primarily because he was owed his salary. But as the NFF seem to be a lot more professional in running their affairs, Oliseh/Siasia could be the next gaffers for the national team. Right now, Oliseh is close to being the first Black African to coach a team in Europe's top seven leagues.

Mujtahida:

At that stage of the qualifiers if Aina had flopped by making an error would you forgive him? Till date Omeruo has not been forgiven by many for his slip in a game we won in Ndola at the very beginning of the campaign not to talk of match day 5 with Zambia breathing down our back.

Fringes:


This is the deepest of intelligent contributions I have read on this thread in the last 30minutes. You wrote the like someone who is very thoughtful and I would like to speak with you in person, if you wouldn't mind.

tbaba1234:


I remember Iorfa was approached early before his injury and his response was to wait till his son was 23 years. This was way before Ipswich was even in the works.

That is essentially saying if England is no longer calling us at 23, switch to Nigeria.

Good thing, he is still young.

Humility017:
England Youth International Defender Eager To Hear From Super Eagles Coach Rohr



England youth international defender Dominic Iorfa is eager to represent Nigeria if called up by coach Gernot Rohr ahead of their preparations for the World Cup 2018 in Russia.
Iorfa who is on loan to English Championship side Ipswich Town from fellow Championship team Wolverhampton Wanderers has represented England at various youth levels.
Two years ago he trained with the senior team of England as back up after the team were hit with several withdrawals while in camp for a friendly game.
However the defender who snubbed overtures from Nigeria as his father Dominic Iorfa Snr insist on his son reaching the age of 22 before deciding his future, has now declared for Nigeria.
” He is at the age now , where a decision on his international future has to be made, and like his father said few months ago, he is ready to play for Nigeria, but he is yet to be called up”, a family source told Owngoalnigeria.com.
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Kog45:
Thanks Humility017 for this post

Joebie:
1-4 at half time.
Full-time scores Mechelen 3-4 Anderlecht

Humility017:


mind you...aina is a better player at present than omeruo....forget about this experience thing...a better player is a better player...
and so there is not way he would have made the mistake omeruo made...

we are talking of a defender here...who only don't sit defend but also offer something in the attack....a defender that can make good cross and square up pass...

it is risky never to take a risk...balogun and co should be thanked for coming to shield elderson severally when the occasion demands....he really tried though but was poor for LB

Humility017:
England Youth International Defender Eager To Hear From Super Eagles Coach Rohr



England youth international defender Dominic Iorfa is eager to represent Nigeria if called up by coach Gernot Rohr ahead of their preparations for the World Cup 2018 in Russia.
Iorfa who is on loan to English Championship side Ipswich Town from fellow Championship team Wolverhampton Wanderers has represented England at various youth levels.
Two years ago he trained with the senior team of England as back up after the team were hit with several withdrawals while in camp for a friendly game.
However the defender who snubbed overtures from Nigeria as his father Dominic Iorfa Snr insist on his son reaching the age of 22 before deciding his future, has now declared for Nigeria.
” He is at the age now , where a decision on his international future has to be made, and like his father said few months ago, he is ready to play for Nigeria, but he is yet to be called up”, a family source told Owngoalnigeria.com.
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TheGoodJoe:


Rohr is a far better manager. He knows more about the game outside tactics. Especially keeping the team together. See how he shielded Akpeyi even when he was about to drop him. Or how he kept Alloy Agu in the coaching crew despite his limitation.
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His management of Victor Moses needs a book for coaches to learn how to manage an egotistical playe[/b]r. Even his dropping of Awaziem, Onyekuru and Osimhen because he did not want them in camp and disappointed when they did not make match day squad.

Rohr also reads teams very well. He is the better manager. However, when it comes to tactical set-up and play, Siasia trumps. It is not even a debate.

Humility017:


you're welcome....
at least they've begin to eye the super eagles....I will want us to go for tomori too ...the guy is good...being a defender who must have been tutored by Chelsea FC over the years...and also he is a CB.

komekn:


Sone Aluko has been playing as an AM sometimes SS and even on the wing occasionally. If he wanted to play in the EPL he would be in Brighton and Hove or Newcastle. Furthermore Fulham narrowly missed the premiership play off battle with a dubious penalty.

His quality is not in doubt I believe that the under handed powers on the NFF have decided to exclude him.

Belgium is not in the top 5 but placed 8 and my opinion is that most of thier teams are on the same competitive level of the championship in England.

Put Ajagun into the Championship and he will be lost but put Onazi and he will stand out. The Championship Haa different demands on player ability.

elyte89:




Till dey given d test to proof their worth b4 we can conclude,club game pressure is totally different from a national team pressure
Main reason I dont get carried away here by most names our unofficial scout here mentions.


B4 Agu was invited, we knew aw most of our unofficial scout mentioned his name to d sky level, yearning for his invitation. Now he has been giving d chance by Rohr,we all knw d outcome.those who yearn for his call, has reversed dier stance saying he's not a "super eagles material yet"
So in a nutshell, wait till Rohr gives both Bonaventure and onyekuru d playing time in d national team b4 u can conclude dt dey re hotter Dan kelechi and ighalo.

EEGA:
We also need to give a call-up to Club-Brugge's Bonaventure and Utretcht's Cyriel.

EEGA:
It would be nice to have him as a back-up for Leon but we also need J.Torunarigha and Dominic Iorfa Jnr before the WC.

EEGA:
We need to strengthen our back-line with good back-ups who will compete for starting Shirts.

Modified:In 2014 France came-up with a plan after watching our previous game, which was to pay "special attention" to Onazi.When Onazi got injured there was no capable replacement for him,which cost us a quarter-final finish.

krattoss:
i can bet my last card that not all of our former coaches could have managed the likes of vic Moses. .
Still tryna figure out how he does that..

forgiveness:


Honestly, I rate Tiago Ilori highly than Dominic Iorfa.

forgiveness:


Honestly, I rate Tiago Ilori highly than Dominic Iorfa.