TheGoodJoe:


You can not compare the system the Spaniards play to that of Nigeria. Our team plays in a more disjointed way. We also play with pace, so you can make a harsh tackle and get away with it. The Spaniards are highly positional. That is why even the lightest touch can earn them a free kick.

Onazi and Ambrose were not the first injured in that game. These are two physically strong players.

forgiveness:


If Spain and France met then, who will play for them apart from the ones we know are playing in the la Liga?

Mickael2:



Azeez would have fared a lot better than Gabriel Rueben did, Mikel did not try at all

TheGoodJoe:


Incoherent again.

forgiveness:


Who will Spain use to execute their game against the physical France?

TheGoodJoe:


The game was too physical. It might not be appreciated but going with a physical option was the best choice. Deschamps turned those guys to monsters. Remember, Onazi and Ambrose attacks were not single attacks. Unless a change in system. The physicality was too much.

Blame the referee for not protecting players with his cards.

Keep in mind Ambrose never recovered.

oloriooko:
Henry Onyekuru just scored for Anderlecht 0-2

TheGoodJoe:


You are funny. Instead of you to say explain.

The Spanish style of play relies more on movement off the ball more than movement on the ball. You will hardly find Iniesta or Silva running with the ball to go past players. They do soft tricks if they hold the ball but most times pass it.

In such instance, a physical side will be cautious of tackling because a harsh tackle can lead to a send off.

So the will use the same players. Even a player like Xavi but the style of play will make fouling Xavi difficult, let alone with such malicious intent as Matuidi.

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr is a far better manager. He knows more about the game outside tactics. Especially keeping the team together. See how he shielded Akpeyi even when he was about to drop him. Or how he kept Alloy Agu in the coaching crew despite his limitation.

His management of Victor Moses needs a book for coaches to learn how to manage an egotistical player. Even his dropping of Awaziem, Onyekuru and Osimhen because he did not want them in camp and disappointed when they did not make match day squad.

Rohr also reads teams very well. He is the better manager. However, when it comes to tactical set-up and play, Siasia trumps. It is not even a debate.

Lucque:
siasia has only excelled in coaching age grade teams... ND has failed woefully wen it's on d bigger stage against actual senior teams with the super eagles... Is everyone forgetting dat?.. It's just like saying Nigeria is a footballing powerhouse because we have won 5 u-17 world cups, or dat we are like Brazil since Brazil has 5 actual world cup... Rohr is still better in my opinion

forgiveness:


If their style of play will make fouling Xavi difficult then Azeez should have been the perfect answer because he's used to that style. Then our game will flow with Azeez's soft tricks and sleek passes than one dongorayo with no football brain than gragra and kwatankwa style of play.

Don't you think so?

daveP:
The silliest excuse for someone they considered not that good. See how they settled Gabby Jesus' own in no time. Some epl teams dey vex me. A common norm linked with naija talents since 2008 or wayback!!@Permit

TheGoodJoe:


Spain is more of a teamwork. Who in our team apart from Mikel Obi would have been coordinated to play Tip tap game. We were playing with pace and under lots of pressure in that match. Azeez coming in woukd adjust to the team. Not the team adjusting to him. He would have had to play a more defensive role, taking away his control game.

In such frenzy, he would have been an easy target. From your above statement, you can see Azeez was not a good fit.

bataderemi:
Why does it seem like Onyekuru and Dennis are not rated here? They both seem 'hotter' than Kelechi and Ighalo.

Mickael2:



you blame him for two nations cup failures where he took over for the last two games but if I blame Rohr for our woeful performance against SA you will say it is part of the rebuilding process? That he is just new to the job right? Fear God.


There are two things you should do, go and watch the match we played against Guinea, the draw and tell me if it in anyway compares to the woeful performance against SA, we had the chances in that game but the players missed them, it's just like blaming Pep for City's lack of a true finisher last season.

Then watch those two friendlies against Argentina, even the one we lost and see just how good tactically he is. We are not saying Siasia is a better a manager but better tactician? It is not even close

komekn:


What league do they play in

What teams do they play in

Best players eventually play in the best leagues and in the best teams.

Dedebanky85:
That's what I'm talking about. If your team does Not play to your strengths then you try and adapt to their style. Iheanacho is a good player but he needs to vary his game so as to score and play for Liecester. From the way this Leicester plays, it'll be hard to see goals coming for him a lot. They don't pass cleanly hence he has to work on becoming tough and use this as a chance to improve on his hold up play. I had feared that this Leicester deal would either go smooth or awry for him. It's October and yet he's not playing as frequently as expected cos he's been back from injury for a while, I'm scared for him cos this is a true talent that has not really exploded as anticipated. After the WC if he's gotten his citizenship he should take his skills to Italy, Spain or Germany where passing is a key focus in every player. The teams in EPL that he fits their style is so competitive to get a shirt and Iheanacho of late has not been doing too well when faced with determined competition. He needs to leave England fast.

komekn:


Aluko played that role several times for Hull Tigers Fc so I wouldn't pigeon hole him. He is much more versatile than you may think.

forgiveness:



Why was Onazi a pain in the neck for the French?
Why was he wanted out?

Was it his attacking and running attributes or his tackling and dirty work attributes?

Don't mix the two?

If it was the former, Onazi was never a threat because the French had marked out our major threat in Ahmed Musa.

The later was the reason he was kicked out and as soon as he left, the French had a free ride onward.

So, my point is, Azeez would have offered both perfectly. Go and check his tackling statistics in the la Liga.

We needed someone who could control the game, give passes and at the same time tackle wella.

komekn:


I had made this observation donkeys ago and some took serious offence, because KC the untouchable can do no wrong.

I said this will be the true test of his ability, not when you are surrounded by world class players making it relatively easier for you to score and look good.

Now he will have to battle, fight and compete for the ball before anything happens. That's why the EPL is the most competitive league in the World.

Many top European players come in and struggle and ultimately fail.

forgiveness:


Where is Kingsley Madu?

komekn:


Absolutely 100%.

However, he came to Liverpool and couldn't cope with the speed, intensity and the physicality.

Yes I did see him when he first came, to us it was obvious he was light weight. He was promptly sent to the gym to beef up.

He was use to playing pretty tip tap football in the Portuguese league. He couldn't cope and never played one game for Liverpool in the premiership after near 4 years. That in my book is sadly a failed project and an indication of very limited ability. Or alternatively you could say good for the Portuguese league but woeful for the EPL.

The EPL is not for everyone it's the most competitive, physically intensive and fastest league in the World. Not everyone can cut it, unfortunately Ilori is one of those that couldn't cut it.

TheGoodJoe:


Onazi injured in motion. So why use something unrelated as a point.

goldfish80:
Take away Simon Kalika, Siasia will be exposed as a mediocre tactician.

Humility017:

watch how forgiveness refute this wit facts and figures....
everyone knows that this guy....will never play for the SE.
I wonder why my brother keep bringing up his name here...

forgiveness:



Why was Onazi a pain in the neck for the French?
Why was he wanted out?

Was it his attacking and running attributes or his tackling and dirty work attributes?

Don't mix the two?

If it was the former, Onazi was never a threat because the French had marked out our major threat in Ahmed Musa.

The later was the reason he was kicked out and as soon as he left, the French had a free ride onward.

So, my point is, Azeez would have offered both perfectly. Go and check his tackling statistics in the la Liga.

We needed someone who could control the game, give passes and at the same time tackle wella.

forgiveness:



Oga! Ajagun don dey play everywhere for field since he singlehandedly led Dolphin to win the league. He continued at Greece and Eredivise.


Why did Yannis-Anastasiou deployed him in the RM position? It is because he has played him there before . Simple.
Meaning, he has been tried, tested and approved with a rubber stamp. GBAM!

Unlike, Joel Obi who has never been played as an AM in his whole career save one.

Abi, how many times did Joel Obi played as AMF over his career and when last?

If it's not necessarily about versatility then we should put Iheanacho on the LB position since he's left footed and since we need an urgent replacement.
He should have come in for Echiejile immediately he got injured. Don't you think so?


The point still remains that Ajagun is versatile and he continues to play in various positions regularly from season to seasons unlike Joel Obi who never played the AMF for 7 years. I am not saying he should not be tried but I am saying you don't just assume he can without been tested prior to the world Cup.


Point of correction, Vicmo is not playing as a wing back in Chelsea, he has so far played as the RM.


No bi transfermarkt or Google you take know Ajagun played for the same coach because you were never aware?

Humility017:

but from your comment earlier...
you talked about the best being in the epl and championshi p...
at least that should serve England...being that all their players play in the epl....even though it may not be among top 6 place teams...
but still in the epl...you believed to be the best league in the world...

Danycrusoe:


Bro even the British media have been coming to terms that the league x made interesting by foreign players not majorly English players, Harry Kane x the only English shinning light in that league then just Rashford, Ali and a couple of young goalkeepers the rest are just dere. their squad x mediocre and just average or a bit above at best. apart from Kane Dele Alli, the rest are just bunch of players enjoying prominence and popularity because of the EPL image nothing spectacular about them, Chamberlain, Theo Walcott even Stones are a good example of how mediocre their players are. Remove foreign players making waves from the league and what u v is a Scottish league.
Komekn bias x based on his long stay over there and because he has seen a lot about the players and football in England which I don't blame him tho everyone has one bias or the other but komekn should know that the world doesn't start and end in the Epl and championship

Mickael2:



great, so why didn't we just hire Kalika?