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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:54am On Oct 14, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If Spain and France met then, who will play for them apart from the ones we know are playing in the la Liga? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:58am On Oct 14, 2017 |
forgiveness: Incoherent again. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:01am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Mickael2: The game was too physical. It might not be appreciated but going with a physical option was the best choice. Deschamps turned those guys to monsters. Remember, Onazi and Ambrose attacks were not single attacks. Unless a change in system. The physicality was too much. Blame the referee for not protecting players with his cards. Keep in mind Ambrose never recovered. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:06am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by femianski: 9:15am On Oct 14, 2017 |
someone should pls explain what Ipswich syndrome is all about |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:15am On Oct 14, 2017 |
forgiveness: You are funny. Instead of you to say explain. The Spanish style of play relies more on movement off the ball more than movement on the ball. You will hardly find Iniesta or Silva running with the ball to go past players. They do soft tricks if they hold the ball but most times pass it. In such instance, a physical side will be cautious of tackling because a harsh tackle can lead to a send off. So the will use the same players. Even a player like Xavi but the style of play will make fouling Xavi difficult, let alone with such malicious intent as Matuidi. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:17am On Oct 14, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:This is one of the reasons why we need good back-ups. Then,it was eliminate Onazi and control the mid-field. we lack good back-ups for our CBs, and Leon is injury prone. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:20am On Oct 14, 2017 |
oloriooko: This is what I am talking about. Performance like this will put pressure on some players who are redundant in their various clubs. ![]() Now that Rohr has set it straight that he wants players performing regularly in his team, nobody go tell them make dem buckle up. ![]() The pressure to do well this season has just began. ![]() Onyekuru, you are doing well, you deserve to go to the world Cup if you maintain your form till March. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:26am On Oct 14, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If their style of play will make fouling Xavi difficult then Azeez should have been the perfect answer because he's used to that style. Then our game will flow with Azeez's soft tricks and sleek passes than one dongorayo with no football brain than gragra and kwatankwa style of play. ![]() Don't you think so? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 9:26am On Oct 14, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:siasia has only excelled in coaching age grade teams... ND has failed woefully wen it's on d bigger stage against actual senior teams with the super eagles... Is everyone forgetting dat?.. It's just like saying Nigeria is a footballing powerhouse because we have won 5 u-17 world cups, or dat we are like Brazil since Brazil has 5 actual world cup... Rohr is still better in my opinion 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:29am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Lucque: Better in what aspect. We have hammered that Rohr is a better manager. We are talking of tactical set-up and plays. Not who is a better manager. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:32am On Oct 14, 2017 |
forgiveness: Spain is more of a teamwork. Who in our team apart from Mikel Obi would have been coordinated to play Tip tap game. We were playing with pace and under lots of pressure in that match. Azeez coming in woukd adjust to the team. Not the team adjusting to him. He would have had to play a more defensive role, taking away his control game. In such frenzy, he would have been an easy target. From your above statement, you can see Azeez was not a good fit. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:45am On Oct 14, 2017 |
daveP: You quite obviously do not understand how the work permit system works. Homework, do a bit of research and you will then be conversant and updated. Countries like Brazil are in the uppermost echelon of the FIFA country ranking an entire different set of parameters are used to assess thier players. With regards to work permit requirements. On the other hand Nigeria is ranked 44 Brazil is mostly ranked number 1 or thereabouts and has been for over 25 years. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:46am On Oct 14, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Why was Onazi a pain in the neck for the French? Why was he wanted out? ![]() Was it his attacking and running attributes or his tackling and dirty work attributes? ![]() Don't mix the two? If it was the former, Onazi was never a threat because the French had marked out our major threat in Ahmed Musa. ![]() The later was the reason he was kicked out and as soon as he left, the French had a free ride onward. ![]() So, my point is, Azeez would have offered both perfectly. Go and check his tackling statistics in the la Liga. ![]() We needed someone who could control the game, give passes and at the same time tackle wella. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:48am On Oct 14, 2017 |
bataderemi: What league do they play in ![]() What teams do they play in ![]() Best players eventually play in the best leagues and in the best teams. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:48am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Mickael2:Take away Simon Kalika, Siasia will be exposed as a mediocre tactician. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:48am On Oct 14, 2017 |
This is no longer depth Ooooo. This is pure cheating!!! Check out Germany. Torunarigha, Akpoguma, Uduokhai better give themselves brain. 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 9:53am On Oct 14, 2017 |
komekn:Is Anderlecht not better than Chanchung Yatai?Is the Belgian league not better than the Chinese league? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:55am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Dedebanky85: I had made this observation donkeys ago and some took serious offence, because KC the untouchable can do no wrong. I said this will be the true test of his ability, not when you are surrounded by world class players making it relatively easier for you to score and look good. Now he will have to battle, fight and compete for the ball before anything happens. That's why the EPL is the most competitive league in the World. Many top European players come in and struggle and ultimately fail. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:03am On Oct 14, 2017 |
komekn: Aluko played the SS role and not the AMF. I want to see him play there first. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:07am On Oct 14, 2017 |
forgiveness: Onazi injured in motion. So why use something unrelated as a point. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:11am On Oct 14, 2017 |
komekn: I Pointed to you that the problem is that Leicester play forward by directing their balls to Vardy. It is not only Iheanacho suffering. Albrighton, Gray, Mahrez, Slimani. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:13am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Has he even played this season? forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:16am On Oct 14, 2017 |
komekn: Not only good for Portuguese league because he was also good for LA Liga and Ligue 1. If you flopped in team in EPL doesn't mean you can't excel in another team in EPL. Lukaku fumbled at Chelsea with all the game time but today we are singing a different note. ![]() Tiago Ilori is better than Dominic Iorfa Jnr in my own opinion. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:18am On Oct 14, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Because that is the full story. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:18am On Oct 14, 2017 |
goldfish80: great, so why didn't we just hire Kalika? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:21am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Humility017: How do you know he will not play for the SE if approached? Are you his brother? ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:22am On Oct 14, 2017 |
forgiveness: everybody(well except theGoodJoe) knows that Mikel and Keshi goofed big time, that was the wrong move any day of the week. In fact it would have been better if we subbed in another CB and pushed Omeruo to the DMF position because he can hassle and has the physicality to cope instead of throwing in the tall snail, this is not even a debate 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:22am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Bro coaches don't check the history of a players playing position before they deploy them. They simply test them during training and study their qualities. Coaches decide based on their playing philosophy. Mourinho at Real Madrid for example wanted forwards that can all switch between CF and the wings at any time during the match. If you are a CF for example and you can't play the wings, u won't suit his style. Oga coaches look for different things. In Ajax, Louis Van Gaal desired midfielders that can both attack and defend. That's another philosophy based on the style he wanted to play. Most coaches will not deploy kC as a LB because he can't defend nada. VicMo for your info can defend which is why Conte tried him there. And he does that for Chelsea. He is a wing back. He can play from defense to attack on both wings. forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Humility017: I stand to be corrected the EPL IS THE MOST COMPETITIVE LEAGUE IN THE WORLD When it comes to best that's just very slightly arguable it depends on where you stand. The EPL is not the best technically speaking but physically tasking intensive and fastest, a resounding YES. Using outside assessment the EPL has always been rated in the last ten years within the top three. Currently UEFA have Spains La Liga number 1 and the EPL as number 2. Other independent think ranks have the EPL as number 1. But at this stage it becomes subjective preference. Its's like saying which teams best Real or Barca or player Ronaldo or Messi we can argue for year without agreement. You are misrepresenting my very clear and precise comments and view. Some of the best players in the world play in the EPL no doubt. There is no team in the the top 5 FIFA rankings that will not have a good number of thier too players in the EPL. For some of them it will be larger bulk of thier team play in the EPL. With regards to the championship it's a stepping stone to the EPL and in some regards a proving ground for EPL competency. With this in mind I place UEFA leagues with a rankings of lower than 7/8 as being on the same level as the Championship and or even lower. That's my well though out view and I do not consider it be unjustified or just plain blinded bias. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:30am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Danycrusoe: You clearly haven't read my comments on this matter please do and you are saying almost EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE SAID. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:33am On Oct 14, 2017 |
Mickael2: Kalika was the tactical brains while Siasia was the figure head. Sometimes you need such a set up. As a matter of fact we were on the verge of being booted out of the U20 championship in 2005 after drawing the first game against Brazil and loosing the second to South Korea. The Nff at that point booked the teams return ticket in advance prior to our last group match against a star studded Switzerland team with guys already playing at top level like Djourou and Senderous (Yes, he was highly rated at this point. Arsenal fought off Real Madrid to sign him). At this point, Kalika hooked up with Siasia. We won that game 3:0. And subsequently, Kalika was detailed to scout and analyse opponents and suggest tactical formations to be applied. I found it astonishing to learn that Siasia had no idea about the teams we were to face prior to that tournament. This much was revealed by Kalika in an interview I read years back. Siasia is overrated, I'm sorry to say. 1 Like |
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