Mickael2:



everybody(well except theGoodJoe) knows that Mikel and Keshi goofed big time, that was the wrong move any day of the week. In fact it would have been better if we subbed in another CB and pushed Omeruo to the DMF position because he can hassle and has the physicality to cope instead of throwing in the tall snail, this is not even a debate

elyte89:




Till dey given d test to proof their worth b4 we can conclude,club game pressure is totally different from a national team pressure
Main reason I dont get carried away here by most names our unofficial scout here mentions.


B4 Agu was invited, we knew aw most of our unofficial scout mentioned his name to d sky level, yearning for his invitation. Now he has been giving d chance by Rohr,we all knw d outcome.those who yearn for his call, has reversed dier stance saying he's not a "super eagles material yet"
So in a nutshell, wait till Rohr gives both Bonaventure and onyekuru d playing time in d national team b4 u can conclude dt dey re hotter Dan kelechi and ighalo.

forgiveness:


Because that is the full story.

TheGoodJoe:


You can say push Omeruo who has more physique but that would be playing him in an unfamiliar role. Azeez would have been the goof. He was going to be light, not fast enough in a game of such intensity. With the hard tackles coming in, he would have been a goner.

You are yet to say why Azeez would have been a success. Except that he did not come in. It was too fierce for him.

PDPGuy:


In that case, Siasia could be drafted into the team. Rohr should even request for Siasia's help too.

Then, in 2 year's time, a combo of Oliseh and Siasia should coach the SE cos they are about the best Nigerian coaches at the moment.

TheGoodJoe:


I Pointed to you that the problem is that Leicester play forward by directing their balls to Vardy. It is not only Iheanacho suffering. Albrighton, Gray, Mahrez, Slimani.

forgiveness:


Ndidi was poo when he first made his debut for the Super Eagles. To make issue worse, he was a bench warmer who never tasted professional football.

Here you are, he is one of our best in Europe and the national team.

Give em another chance against Algeria then let us conclude.

Humility017:
England Youth International Defender Eager To Hear From Super Eagles Coach Rohr



England youth international defender Dominic Iorfa is eager to represent Nigeria if called up by coach Gernot Rohr ahead of their preparations for the World Cup 2018 in Russia.
Iorfa who is on loan to English Championship side Ipswich Town from fellow Championship team Wolverhampton Wanderers has represented England at various youth levels.
Two years ago he trained with the senior team of England as back up after the team were hit with several withdrawals while in camp for a friendly game.
However the defender who snubbed overtures from Nigeria as his father Dominic Iorfa Snr insist on his son reaching the age of 22 before deciding his future, has now declared for Nigeria.
” He is at the age now , where a decision on his international future has to be made, and like his father said few months ago, he is ready to play for Nigeria, but he is yet to be called up”, a family source told Owngoalnigeria.com.
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Mickael2:



someone said it is an unintelligent question and I am was just amazed. That Siasia is a better tactician is not even arguable, Rohr is the better manager I agree

safarigirl:
I genuinely feel like GoodJoe's constant defence of Iheanacho makes some people say some really terrible stuff about the boy sometimes, just to rile up Goodjoe.

I get you want to discredit his arguments, but mehn, some of you have no chill whatsoever. If na me be Kelechi, I go dey sulk if I read this thread.

I've really restrained from commenting in his defense, cuz I actually like Kelechi as a person. Yes, he may not be turning into the footballer many would prefer, but a lot of things are responsible for that, not just him.

I tend to learn of players on and off the pitch as opposed to most of you who are only concerned about their on pitch performance, so, sometimes, I get particularly attached to some guys. The likes of Kelechi, Iwobi, Mikel, Awaziem, they are guys I like because of their personalities.

I refrain from saying bad stuff about them because I know outside of the game, they are great guys and I think I rate that higher than kicking around a ball. Dedebanky did not need to be so harsh, and if he bothered to learn of them beyond the game, he probably wouldn't have attacked Kelechi like that.

These players are people too, and just like you and I, they KNOW when they are not performing to their true potential and no, they are not happy about it. They certainly do not need the whole world throwing their shortcomings in their faces like some people do on this site. When next you want to criticise, please, consider the players

Mujtahida:

I know you won't let it rest but sorry Thiago Ilori will not play for Nigeria. He and Nigeria football are as far as heaven and earth.

Kog45:
Pls is Tiago ready to play for Nigeria

tbaba1234:


I remember Iorfa was approached early before his injury and his response was to wait till his son was 23 years. This was way before Ipswich was even in the works.

That is essentially saying if England is no longer calling us at 23, switch to Nigeria.

Good thing, he is still young.

EEGA:
we have a lot of wingers in the team presently, including Onyekuru.

We only need back-ups to our CB's and Echiejile's replacement.

Loogan:


Good one bro, this will help people understand soccer better.

Mickael2:



you blame him for two nations cup failures where he took over for the last two games but if I blame Rohr for our woeful performance against SA you will say it is part of the rebuilding process? That he is just new to the job right? Fear God.


There are two things you should do, go and watch the match we played against Guinea, the draw and tell me if it in anyway compares to the woeful performance against SA, we had the chances in that game but the players missed them, it's just like blaming Pep for City's lack of a true finisher last season.

Then watch those two friendlies against Argentina, even the one we lost and see just how good tactically he is. We are not saying Siasia is a better a manager but better tactician? It is not even close

Joebie:
Well if you say you have personally gone to watch these players, that I can understand. But you have not also gone to see the likes of Torunarigha or other Nigerian players in Holland etc. You see what I mean? So let's be a little balanced here.. Granted the EPL is the most competitive and the Championship may be at the level of other top leagues. But you can't just say any championship player is better than the others. I consider that quite extreme.


Modified
And thanks

komekn:


Come on you really think I would make a sweeping statement like that (in bold)

I do not drink alcohol and I don't smoke shayo.

No matter how low a league is there will always be some one of exceptional talent an exception to the rule.

Mujtahida:
This is no longer depth Ooooo. This is pure cheating!!! Check out Germany. Torunarigha, Akpoguma, Uduokhai better give themselves brain.

Joebie:
Has he even played this season?

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr is a far better manager. He knows more about the game outside tactics. Especially keeping the team together. See how he shielded Akpeyi even when he was about to drop him. Or how he kept Alloy Agu in the coaching crew despite his limitation.

His management of Victor Moses needs a book for coaches to learn how to manage an egotistical player. Even his dropping of Awaziem, Onyekuru and Osimhen because he did not want them in camp and disappointed when they did not make match day squad.

Rohr also reads teams very well. He is the better manager. However, when it comes to tactical set-up and play, Siasia trumps. It is not even a debate.

Mickael2:



everybody(well except theGoodJoe) knows that Mikel and Keshi goofed big time, that was the wrong move any day of the week. In fact it would have been better if we subbed in another CB and pushed Omeruo to the DMF position because he can hassle and has the physicality to cope instead of throwing in the tall snail, this is not even a debate

EEGA:
The same Leicester won the league last two season with the same system.

Iheanacho should adapt or pick a new role.

Joebie:
Bro coaches don't check the history of a players playing position before they deploy them. They simply test them during training and study their qualities.

Coaches decide based on their playing philosophy. Mourinho at Real Madrid for example wanted forwards that can all switch between CF and the wings at any time during the match. If you are a CF for example and you can't play the wings, u won't suit his style.

Oga coaches look for different things.

In Ajax, Louis Van Gaal desired midfielders that can both attack and defend. That's another philosophy based on the style he wanted to play.

Most coaches will not deploy kC as a LB because he can't defend nada.

VicMo for your info can defend which is why Conte tried him there. And he does that for Chelsea. He is a wing back. He can play from defense to attack on both wings.

Mickael2:



Azeez is not fast?! I can now understand that you have never watched Azeez before.

Omeruo has played the DMF role before. I mean even Ramos and Pepe have been deployed to the DMF role and they did rather well

junnyjake:


It's not as straightforward as you think. Certain factors needs to be considered.

- Your worth
- FIFA ranking of your country
- Strength of the league you're coming from.
- Whether or not your considered exceptional talent.
- your wage.

Humility017:

you call Turkish league and Dutch league...obscure ?
you need no....reasonable person to tell you that the answer to the bolded is revealed in that careless word

sometimes your inability to find a balance in this your sentiment towards English football leaves me baffled.

you shouldn't be saying this....
a league may not be in the level of the epl but that does not mean it is obscure...

I am tired of replying you on this...because you always look for unfounded facts to back up your assumptions....

and for omeruo I think his constant loan moves has infringed on his performances...he ought to settle somewhere and grow his potentials and not shuttling from club to club.....

komekn:


You quite obviously do not understand how the work permit system works.

Homework, do a bit of research and you will then be conversant and updated.

Countries like Brazil are in the uppermost echelon of the FIFA country ranking an entire different set of parameters are used to assess thier players. With regards to work permit requirements.

On the other hand Nigeria is ranked 44 Brazil is mostly ranked number 1 or thereabouts and has been for over 25 years.

goldfish80:

Take away Simon Kalika, Siasia will be exposed as a mediocre tactician.

forgiveness:


Why will coaches not deploy him at LB and how would they know if he wasn't tried in training?

If you answer rightly then you will arrive at my submission that he Joel Obi must be tested in training or friendlies before he is thrown into the game as an AMF.

Danielnino00:
What's with forgiveness and Tiago Ilori??
As far as I can tell,the last time there was any link between Nigeria and Ilori was after he signed for Liverpool. The boy was never interested in playing for us.. England and Portugal were his choice.. Now that he has depreciated and struggling in the championship, you want us to call him up??



Na so our national team bad reach