openmine:



Please do....and also state why according to U...burnt offering and circumcision wasn't included in ur list just like tithing?

openmine:

I have read it before several times and i had to read it again unlike U who is too proud to read what U quoted...And yet there is no reference for believers to tithe to the body of christ...
Okay if someone ask U where its stated that U are to tithe to the body of christ which is the church....what verse will be used to justify ur claim?

openmine:


Ur back and forth with Hebrews 11 isn't helping U...its rather exposing U...cos someone will read that scripture U quoted and wont see believers offering their tithe to the "body of christ"
U cant just quote a scripture without understanding it.....U don't even have a corresponding scripture to back it....So how would U form a doctrine where there is nor anchor scripture....? Chai

felixomor:

The principle of sowing and reaping has no binding law that you must sow
Does it?
But he who sows will reap. Simple

I will use the scriptures I used to show you Melchizedek
Simple

felixomor:

I dont think u know what corresponding means

Hehehehehe, the Melchizedek story I guess was from biology textbook ba?

By the way,
As Christians, who is our priest equivalent of Melchizedek today?

As Christians, who is our priest equivalent of Melchizedek today?

openmine:


Bro the vowing and reaping principle quoted is scriptural and contained in the bible
evasion tactics isn't really ur forte...and sorry to say this but U are not quite good at it!

openmine:

Please Do and also....quote the part where Hebrews 11 shows believers tithing to the body of christ...Please i beg U

openmine:
Some Christians read the bible as if they have been blindfolded

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I thought u said all principles have binding laws
Or the amnesia has reached there now?

Pls do the needful

openmine:


[s]Yes bro i know exactly wat am saying U have none
corresponding - similar,comparable
Comprendo?



Bro stop dis evasion nah...U havent finshed a question and U are going into another?
Na so U dey take learn? [/s]


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Hope ur priest aint ur pastor?

Read Hebrews 7:11 - 28
Hebrews 8 and 9

hoopLA:

It's terrible.

That's why they are mostly charlatan noisemakers who hardly ever practice what is in the Bible they profess.

It's really sad because they deliberately act ignorant so as to make an argument hard for you to convince them e.g this tithe argument. One of them, supposed to be a pastor, once told me that the storehouse in Mal 3:10 is the church's bank account . Can you imagine that nonsense? All to justify the stealing and extortion scheme calledtithe.

felixomor:

I simply asked you, who is our priest equivalent of Melchizedek ?

I never said pastor is your priest
You see why I say English is hard for you?

openmine:

hoopLA:

I kid you not.
After hearing that I knew the body of Christ is in serious trouble.
Even after showing him several scriptures about having to obey biblical injunctions and how the present day tithing can never be equated to what is in the Bible, dude kept in ranting and moving goalpost anyhow to suit his argument.

I have since decided to not take any pastor who actively believes in tithing seriously and regard such as a con man.
I've been reading your back and forth with that charlatan and initially I was tempted to ask you to not bother given that he/she is a deliberate hardheaded ignorant person but in the end I'm glad you kept opening up his/her weak argument. And just like I thought, display of ignorance/feigning amnesia/dodging issues characterized his/her post, just like I said when I first posted in response to your initial post.

felixomor:
Melchizedek was not a levite
He collected Abrahams tithe

You people who read bible for the sake of argument should stop meddling with what you dont know.

Sincere advice.

felixomor:
Melchizedek was not a levite
He collected Abrahams tithe

You people who read bible for the sake of argument should stop meddling with what you dont know.

Sincere advice.

ComingThrough:
This is very simple. If you don't believe in tithe, DO NOT PAY TITHES. No one can force you to part with your money.
I choose to believe because I believe that Christ is my high priest after the order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 7:13-17) . So I pay my tithe to "The Body Of Christ" which is a representative of Christ on earth now.
I get blessed for doing it "because I believe it" and it also cultivates in me a heart of giving which is the ultimate goal.
So if you don't believe please keep your money.
P.S I am not a pastor.

Topgainer:


You have never Paid tithe in your life. 10% of your weekly or monthly earning submitted to a gentile Prophet, Bishop or Pastor is not tithe. The money 'tithe' you pay is according to who in the Bible?
Abraham gave tithe not paid tithe, not weekly, monthly or whatever. He was recorded to have done that once in his entire life and it was not given from his enormous wealth amd earnings but war spoils. So
you have no point saying your weekly submission of your money to your Bishop Papa is according to Melchizedek or Jesus Christ.
Assuming, your gentile Bishops have become Melchizedek ( which can't be)
why are they now making tithe laws where Melchizedek made none?
Why are they demanding it weekly and monthly when Melchizedek took his once in the lifetime of Abraham?
Why are they asking for money when Melchizedek took spoils of war?
Humble yourself and accept the truth, that all you ever gave were simply offerings.

felixomor:


Firstly do you now agree that it is not only levites that collect tithe?
As demonstrated by the Melchizedek example above?

Goshen360:


Give us another example of other tribe OTHER THAN LEVITES that can collect tithe? From the mouth of two or three witnesses, the truth is established.

felixomor:

I dont need to give u another example.
Sorry dear.

felixomor:

I told you to show me the Christians who said pastors are levites?
You dodged it

I aksed you a yes or no question on abraham?
You dodged it

I asked you who existed first between abraham and moses?
You dodged it

I asked you whether u practice male circumcision that God told Abraham to be doing ?
You pretended like u didnt see the question.

I pointed you to Hebrews 11
You still claim i showed no scripture.

Good

bloodofthelamb:
DID FATHER ABRAHAM OF BLESSED MEMORY GAVE HIS TITHE OUT OF COMPULSION, OR IT WAS OF HIS OWN WILL... I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH TITHING, WHERE I HAVE PROBLEM WITH, IS THE LIES BEHIND IT THAT MANY PROCLAIM TODAY. LIKE, IF YOU DON'T TITHE, YOU ARE UNDER A CURSE... IF YOU DON'T TITHE, YOU WILL BE POOR... IF YOU DON'T TITHE, THE DEVOURER WILL DEVOUR YOU, AND SO MANY NONSENSE.

felixomor:

You dont have to wait for compulsion before paying
That's what you should learn from Abraham
He gave cheerfully

The early church gave all their money and properties to the church.
Dont die on ten percent.

bloodofthelamb:
BRO, IF I DON'T PAY MY TITHE TO MY PASTOR, WILL GOD STILL BLESS AND LOVE ME? IF I DON'T PAY MY TEN PERCENT OF MY INCOME TO MY PASTOR, WILL I BE CONDEMN AND END UP IN HELL? PLS, ANSWER SINCERELY.

felixomor:

My dear God doesnt need tithe to love you.
Tithing is just a principle. Simple
If u like pay
If u like dont pay.

Topgainer:

According to my Bible, It is a command and a law, Mal 3:7-10 states there is a curse for not obeying the tithe Law.
For people under the Law who refuse to give pay , they attract the devourer of Mal 3: 7-10. For such people, there is nothing as 'if you like and if you don't like' it is pay and be blessed, don't pay and receive curse. Christians were not given any Law or 'Principle' called Tithe to obey.
With this can you kindly show us where the Bible referred to Tithe as just a Principle?
By the description of the laws of tithe, in Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy one could see that 10% of money submitted to a gentile Papa weekly is not tithe. Not even Abraham gave his tithe this way.

felixomor:

Lets assume u are correct
Does that part of the bible say you will go to hell for not paying?
What u sow is what u reap. Simple

Topgainer:

I have shown you where you will find Tithe as a Law that has blessings and curses. I added that no Christian is under such Laws or Curses. Besides, the blessings of a Christian is not dependent on Jewish Customs or Laws.
Doc, you have never given tithe in your entire life. The money (10%) you give monthly or weekly is not tithe. Don't pride yourself that you are obeying the Tithe Law. You NEVER did.
Please, if you don't mind, I need to see the Bible passage that says Tithe is just a principle. It seems that you quote the words and opinions of Papa Daddy Bishop as though you are quoting the Bible.

felixomor:

My dear God doesnt need tithe to love you.
Tithing is just a principle. Simple
If u like pay
If u like dont pay.

bloodofthelamb:
PRINCIPLE UNTO WHAT?... WHAT IS THE END OR BENEFIT OF THIS PRINCIPLE? PLS, TELL ME IF YOU KNOW.

felixomor:


Abraham paid tithe.
Abraham was not part of the law.
Please read and understand.
I know its quite difficult for u

Topgainer:

I think I have addressed the issue of Abraham up there. It is no longer Mal 3: 7-10. and the Jewish Laws. Good! That makes it easier.
Now, Doc, is your tithe according to Abraham? What did Abraham give as tithe and how many times in his life did he do that?
Meanwhile, I will appreciate it if you can get me the place that said that Tithe is just a principle before you address the new questions.