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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 8:16am On Oct 17, 2017
patrickmuf:
With Chelsea, Inter and Madrid, Mou will set up to defend and hit you hard on the counter but now, he just thinks defense first and in most cases, completely ignores the attack...That second spell at Chelsea really broke Mourinho...Sums up all we have been saying, we should approach the big games with a lot more believe that we can win...
Now, unto the next, we need to take 3 pts off our game with Benfica so we can afford to take our foot off the pedal for the remainder of our games.

is it that same second spell at. chelsea that he also won d epl that broke him

someone should also post a stat of jurgen klopp against the big teams in England and after show me what he won...
if winning the epl was only about winning big teams,I guess klopp would've won d title last season..

but hey,we all can't like d same person

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:26am On Oct 17, 2017
ctuagent007:


U can hate LVG doesn't mean everything he did @ utd was wrong....in fact he ensured Degea was benched for Romero to take over the sticks & we had the Euros esp to thank or else Degea will never give a damn to be benched for 10 years as long as he gets that dream move to Madrid & presently there is no utd fan who doesn't know Degea (the Spainard) is leaving after next season & that is why utd has kept tabs with Oblak for 3 years now

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 8:33am On Oct 17, 2017
dubylhover:


is it that same second spell at. chelsea that he also won d epl that broke him

someone should also post a stat of jurgen klopp against the big teams in England and after show me what he won...
if winning the epl was only about winning big teams,I guess klopp would've won d title last season..

but hey,we all can't like d same person

Spot on.


Like someone here said, the bigger issue should have been the defending champions losing twice in succession, the latter one being to a side that was MILES behind everyone in the league.

But because it is Jose, everybody will pull stats out to nail him. Even when it is clear that the reason for nailing him isn't anything new and if you had anything working between your ears, you would have expected his tactics on Saturday.

We have something to build on, but folks would rather see the rubble from an imaginary crisis they created.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:33am On Oct 17, 2017
dubylhover:


is it that same second spell at. chelsea that he also won d epl that broke him

someone should also post a stat of jurgen klopp against the big teams in England and after show me what he won...
if winning the epl was only about winning big teams,I guess klopp would've won d title last season..

but hey,we all can't like d same person
I actually think Mou is the best we can get now. I was obviously referring to his second season when I made reference to his second spell at Chelsea...Talking about like or dislike is just you trying to build an imaginary bridge between us as fans, that someone else thinks Mou should show more guts against so called big teams doesn't in anyway translate to hatred.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:37am On Oct 17, 2017
So we should rather be fixated with Conte and his team short comings abi? If others here make reference to City you ask them to fuvk off and go support City. Is okay...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 8:45am On Oct 17, 2017
patrickmuf:
So we should rather be fixated with Conte and his team short comings abi? If others here make reference to City you ask them to fuvk off and go support City. Is okay...
No.
But stop flogging a dead horse.
Stop beating a broken drum
Stop playing a scratched CD
Stop wearing a faded garment.


Expecting Jose to change at this stage of his career is akin to folly. Let him fail at winning us the title before we have a go at him.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 9:04am On Oct 17, 2017
#4600 cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obainojazz(m): 9:06am On Oct 17, 2017
funlord:



Match of the day no doubt! Can I get some predictions?
3-1. Might be 3-2, but Madrid to win.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:06am On Oct 17, 2017
hoopLA:

No.
But stop flogging a dead horse.
Stop beating a broken drum
Stop playing a scratched CD
Stop wearing a faded garment.


Expecting Jose to change at this stage of his career is akin to folly. Let him fail at winning us the title before we have a go at him.



.


For them it's very ok to destroy mourinho with fallacies and myths, but once you praise him, you are supporting anti-football and should keep quiet immediately
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 9:09am On Oct 17, 2017
patrickmuf:
I actually think Mou is the best we can get now. I was obviously referring to his second season when I made reference to his second spell at Chelsea...Talking about like or dislike is just you trying to build an imaginary bridge between us as fans, that someone else thinks Mou should show more guts against so called big teams doesn't in anyway translate to hatred.

but you do know that the second season in his second spell at Chelsea was when he won the title right? so I don't understand how you meant where you said he lost it...if by him losing it means winning the epl title,then I earnestly hope he loses it this season at Manu

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:14am On Oct 17, 2017
I will honestly suggest that mourinho leaves United, so that the board can try the so called Football Aristotles so that we will know which is better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:20am On Oct 17, 2017
dubylhover:


but you do know that the second season in his second spell at Chelsea was when he won the title right? so I don't understand how you meant where you said he lost it...if by him losing it means winning the epl title,then I earnestly hope he loses it this season at Manu
Sorry, that's most likely the 3rd season (his final season) when things went south...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:25am On Oct 17, 2017
The rate at which niggas make sentimental comments though....


#4600 anyway cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:27am On Oct 17, 2017
hoopLA:


Spot on.


Like someone here said, the bigger issue should have been the defending champions losing twice in succession, the latter one being to a side that was MILES behind everyone in the league.

But because it is Jose, everybody will pull stats out to nail him. Even when it is clear that the reason for nailing him isn't anything new and if you had anything working between your ears, you would have expected his tactics on Saturday.

We have something to build on, but folks would rather see the rubble from an imaginary crisis they created.







You really need to desist from insulting people because they do not agree with your point of view.
So because some fans want less conservative football from JM they have nothing between their ears?
It is you Mourinho lovers that are actually using emotion rather than facts in this debate. If this issue can't be debated in a civil manner it's better not debated at all, we all want the best for United.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 9:27am On Oct 17, 2017
afrodoc2:


You really need to desist from insulting people because they do not agree with your point of view.
So because some fans want less conservative football from JM they have nothing between their ears?
It is you Mourinho lovers that are actually using emotion rather than facts in this debate. If this issue can't be debated in a civil manner it's better not debated at all, we all want the best for United.

for the record I'm not a Mourinho lover.
He was never cut for the United job, and is still a divisive figure. He will never be beloved as an individual at the club, no mater what he goes on to achieve.
Please don't lump me into a category I don't belong because I choose not to vent at him.

hoopLA:


if you had anything working between your ears, you would have expected his tactics on Saturday.


This is my original comment. I think it's pretty clear in itself. If you know Jose, there's no way he was opening up against Liverpool. His tactics should have been expected. Expecting him to go otherwise to me sounds absurd at the very least.
Saying I insulted people who want him to be expansive in his approach is quite disingenuous, I must say.

I didn't mean to insult anyone, and if I did I apologize for it. However, I think we are going overboard with this criticism.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 9:37am On Oct 17, 2017
patrickmuf:
You mean the Michael Jackson kind of pashun? grin grin grin

grin grin that kind of pashun
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:39am On Oct 17, 2017
Let's get something straight. This team can still win the league if manager, players and fans pull in the same direction.
But if you are not assessing with a biased mind answer these 2 questions?
1) When was the last time a team won the league without an away win against a Top 6 club

2) When was the last time in his WHOLE CAREER that Mourinho went a full season without an away win against a top 6 club.

This 2nd one is for those that keep saying " JM has always parked the bus, so we shouldn't be surprised".

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 9:45am On Oct 17, 2017
afrodoc2:
Let's get something straight. This team can still win the league if manager, players and fans pull in the same direction.
But if you are not assessing with a biased mind answer these 2 questions?
1) When was the last time a team won the league without an away win against a Top 6 club

2) When was the last time in his WHOLE CAREER that Mourinho went a full season without an away win against a top 6 club.

This 2nd one is for those that keep saying " JM has always parked the bus, so we shouldn't be surprised".

To #1,
Fergie did in 2010/11.


To #2, and derived from #1,
How does winning away at the top sides translate into title success?
Kindly educate me.

Yes, Jose has tended to park the bus against the big sides.
that is a FACT.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ToyinDipo(m): 9:47am On Oct 17, 2017
Neymar1095:
José Mourinho says he won't finish his career at
Manchester United and hinted that he would like
to manage PSG one day.




Hopefully after this season.
With the way things are shaping, Jose will likely leave at the end of this season, or at most next season.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 9:52am On Oct 17, 2017
hoopLA:


Yes, Jose has tended to park the bus against the big sides.
that is a FACT.

How does winning away at the top sides translate into title success?
Kindly educate me.

I will pass, i only educate those that truly want to learn. Nothing i say will convince you so why bother.
I just think we all should be more tolerant on this forum and stop insulting fellow United fans because of a difference in opinion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 9:53am On Oct 17, 2017
afrodoc2:
Let's get something straight. This team can still win the league if manager, players and fans pull in the same direction.
But if you are not assessing with a biased mind answer these 2 questions?
1) When was the last time a team won the league without an away win against a Top 6 club

2) When was the last time in his WHOLE CAREER that Mourinho went a full season without an away win against a top 6 club.

This 2nd one is for those that keep saying " JM has always parked the bus, so we shouldn't be surprised".
r u already concluding dat we won't win any away games against the top 6 teams?

to answer ur first question, d last time Jose won d league with Chelsea, he only won one away game against d top 6. just one game. he had 3draws and one loss against spurs.


so I don't think there is any cause for alarm presently.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:57am On Oct 17, 2017
weedtaker:
#4600 cool

grin

As expected!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hoopLA: 9:57am On Oct 17, 2017
afrodoc2:


I will pass, i only educate those that truly want to learn. Nothing i say will convince you so why bother.
I just think we all should be more tolerant on this forum and stop insulting fellow United fans because of a difference in opinion.

you didn't read my response to your claim that I insulted fans who don't agree with me.

Bro, no need for either of us to build bile over this.

I made a remark that I shouldn't have and apologized for it, but you still hold on to it to form your opinion about me. Even when you took my quote out of context.

No qualms.

Please don't feel insulted. Like I said before it wasn't intended.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:02am On Oct 17, 2017
lekkie073:
r u already concluding dat we won't win any away games against the top 6 teams?

to answer ur first question, d last time Jose won d league with Chelsea, he only won one away game against d top 6. just one game. he had 3draws and one loss against spurs.


so I don't think there is any cause for alarm presently.

There is no alarm on my part, I believe we can still win the league and the worst position possible is 2nd.. I am just not happy with the insults people have been dropping directly and indirectly since against those with a contrary opinion.
Fergie did it ONCE and JM NEARLY did it once also in 20 plus years of the EPL.
Gaining points whether home or away against your direct rivals is important in this league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 10:05am On Oct 17, 2017
patrickmuf:
Sorry, that's most likely the 3rd season (his final season) when things went south...

Okk,now I get you
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:06am On Oct 17, 2017
Points gained against direct title rivals might just decide who wins it this time, City are blowing off all the small teams so to say (we're equally doing same) and have already taken 6 points off their clash with Liverpool and Chelsea, early days but that's a huge boost...
Winning against the big boys isn't a guarantee that the league is yours but it makes it easier.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:08am On Oct 17, 2017
Arsenal 0 - 0 Chelsea (14/15)
Chelsea 2 - 0 Arsenal (14/15)
Chelsea 6 - 0 Arsenal (13/14)
Arsenal 0 - 0 Chelsea (13/14)

Liverpool 1 - 2 Chelsea (14/15)
Chelsea 1 - 1 Liverpool (14/15)
Liverpool 0 - 2 Chelsea (13/14)
Chelsea 2 - 1 Liverpool (13/14)

Manchester City 1 - 1 Chelsea (14/15)
Chelsea 1 - 1 Man City (14/15)
Man City 0 - 1 Chelsea (13/14)
Chelsea 2 - 1 Man City (13/14)


Man Utd 1-1 Chelsea (14/15)
Chelsea 1 - 0 Man Utd (14/15)
Man Utd 0 - 0 Chelsea (13/14)
Chelsea 3 - 1 Man Utd (13/14)


Tottenham 5- 3 Chelsea (14/15)
Chelsea 3 - 0 Tottenham (14/15)
Chelsea 4 - 0 Tottenham (13/14)
Tottenham 1 - 1 Chelsea (13/14)
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 10:10am On Oct 17, 2017
hoopLA:


you didn't read my response to your claim that I insulted fans who don't agree with me.

Bro, no need for either of us to build bile over this.

I made a remark that I shouldn't have and apologized for it, but you still hold on to it to form your opinion about me. Even when you took my quote out of context.

No qualms.

Please don't feel insulted. Like I said before it wasn't intended.


are you starboard?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:10am On Oct 17, 2017
hoopLA:


you didn't read my response to your claim that I insulted fans who don't agree with me.

Bro, no need for either of us to build bile over this.

I made a remark that I shouldn't have and apologized for it, but you still hold on to it to form your opinion about me. Even when you took my quote out of context.

No qualms.

Please don't feel insulted. Like I said before it wasn't intended.


Bro, it's all good and it's all love. There is no bile on my end and I don't think there is on your end either.
We all want the club to succeed that is why blood dey hot sometimes.
Apart from those that want David Moyes to come back or want the club to sign Lee Cattermole we should all try to have debates here without vitriol or insults.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:11am On Oct 17, 2017
dopeJemi:


are you starboard?

Laye! Starboard would have fired me back with machine gun. He is too gentle to be Starboard.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 10:13am On Oct 17, 2017
afrodoc2:


There is no alarm on my part, I believe we can still win the league and the worst position possible is 2nd.. I am just not happy with the insults people have been dropping directly and indirectly since against those with a contrary opinion.
Fergie did it ONCE and JM NEARLY did it once also in 20 plus years of the EPL.
Gaining points whether home or away against your direct rivals is important in this league.



bro let me clarify something,gaining points throughout the whole season is very vital,whether small teams or big teams,if you win mancity its 3 points you'd b given,if you win Burnley its still those same 3 points..

I think why most fans are being itchy about the big games is because of d sentimental feelings about winning a rival..

Chelsea won tottenham,"a rival away from home",but have lost to crystal palace and Burnley...so what's d essense,I can bet you my left balls that they would have preferred to have lost to spurs and beaten Burnley and palace...

too much emphasis is laid on trivial issues in my opinion
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 10:14am On Oct 17, 2017
afrodoc2:


Laye! Starboard would have fired me back with machine gun. He is too gentle to be Starboard.

You sure? I believe say because your name na Afrodoc na why he take am lightly

he types like starboard

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