dubylhover:


bro let me clarify something,gaining points throughout the whole season is very vital,whether small teams or big teams,if you win mancity its 3 points you'd b given,if you win Burnley its still those same 3 points..

I think why most fans are being itchy about the big games is because of d sentimental feelings about winning a rival..

Chelsea won tottenham,"a rival away from home",but have lost to crystal palace and Burnley...so what's d essense,I can bet you my left balls that they would have preferred to have lost to spurs and beaten Burnley and palace...

too much emphasis is laid on trivial issues in my opinion

afrodoc2:
Let's get something straight. This team can still win the league if manager, players and fans pull in the same direction.
But if you are not assessing with a biased mind answer these 2 questions?
1) When was the last time a team won the league without an away win against a Top 6 club

afrodoc2:


2) When was the last time in his WHOLE CAREER that Mourinho went a full season without an away win against a top 6 club.

afrodoc2:

This 2nd one is for those that keep saying " JM has always parked the bus, so we shouldn't be surprised".

dopeJemi:


You sure? I believe say because your name na Afrodoc na why he take am lightly

he types like starboard

lekkie073:
r u already concluding dat we won't win any away games against the top 6 teams?

to answer ur first question, d last time Jose won d league with Chelsea, he only won one away game against d top 6. just one game. he had 3draws and one loss against spurs.


so I don't think there is any cause for alarm presently.

afrodoc2:


Well I might be wrong. I believe adisaaowala asked him the same question and I know the 2 of you and Lana1 fit work for CIA.
Come Charlie, are you Starboard?

hoopLA:


To #1,
[/b]Fergie did in 2010/11.[b]


To #2, and derived from #1,
How does winning away at the top sides translate into title success?
Kindly educate me.

Yes, Jose has tended to park the bus against the big sides.
that is a FACT.

lekkie073:
r u already concluding dat we won't win any away games against the top 6 teams?

to answer ur first question, d last time Jose won d league with Chelsea, he only won one away game against d top 6. just one game. he had 3draws and one loss against spurs.


so I don't think there is any cause for alarm presently.

dubylhover:


bro let me clarify something,gaining points throughout the whole season is very vital,whether small teams or big teams,if you win mancity its 3 points you'd b given,if you win Burnley its still those same 3 points..

I think why most fans are being itchy about the big games is because of d sentimental feelings about winning a rival..

Chelsea won tottenham,"a rival away from home",but have lost to crystal palace and Burnley...so what's d essense,I can bet you my left balls that they would have preferred to have lost to spurs and beaten Burnley and palace...

too much emphasis is laid on trivial issues in my opinion

joeace2020:
Maybe, just maybe if we see it this way we would understand. We were playing Liverpool away on a hot afternoon and the first match of the day after returning from an international break, we've lost our best midfielders and on top of that our best defender. That would put us in a precarious situation if we should lose because Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Tottenham were expected to come away with wins. It then met if Arsenal and Chelsea had won they'd be on 16 points each, and if we lost we'd just be 3 points above them and 2 points above Tottenham who won. That means it comes down to the next games for those teams to level with us or climb above united on the table... To make matters worse we have two of those teams in our next 3 epl games. Would you risk loosing 3 points with Chelsea and Tottenham closing on you and coming up against you in the next games? I wouldn't. In fact i'd field 7 defenders if possible! And Mourinho set out for a point and i am sure he would be celebrating and having a party after seeing Chelsea and Arsenal drop so much points he probably didn't think both of them would. It then means if we get another 3 points against Huddersfield and come up with a draw away to Chelsea or hopefully a win or worse draw to Tottenham at home, we will still be above them by a good number of points and that's like half our big games out of the way. All i am saying is at the end of the day, the manager set up to draw this game to better compete by season's end even SAF was applauding him after the game.

I just know this year would be different. Lukaku will step up against the small teams to get the points we lost last season and we might have to draw the away big games which i believe we wont' do for all because we still have Ibrahimovic returning back to add some experience to our inexperienced attack and our long ball games when we need them. By the time all our players return from injury and hopefully stay fit, all this sulkiness and complaining will stop. We still have the best squad in the league, take it or leave it. I am not moved by some clueless attackers at City. Attacks win games, defense win titles.

dubylhover:


bro let me clarify something,gaining points throughout the whole season is very vital,whether small teams or big teams,if you win mancity its 3 points you'd b given,if you win Burnley its still those same 3 points..

I think why most fans are being itchy about the big games is because of d sentimental feelings about winning a rival..

Chelsea won tottenham,"a rival away from home",but have lost to crystal palace and Burnley...so what's d essense,I can bet you my left balls that they would have preferred to have lost to spurs and beaten Burnley and palace...

too much emphasis is laid on trivial issues in my opinion

afrodoc2:


Bro, it's all good and it's all love. There is no bile on my end and I don't think there is on your end either.
We all want the club to succeed that is why blood dey hot sometimes.
Apart from those that want David Moyes to come back or want the club to sign Lee Cattermole we should all try to have debates here without vitriol or insults.

CapitalCee:


Guy if to say you dey my area now I for go buy one crate of o'mpa come give you. You nailed it.
Most people just want to use those big matches to make mouth rather than seeing the bigger picture.

afrodoc2:


Well I might be wrong. I believe adisaaowala asked him the same question and I know the 2 of you and Lana1 fit work for CIA.
Come Charlie, are you Starboard?

patrickmuf:
How does it amount to being trivial when you are talking about taking 3 pts off a clash with a direct rival...As per Chelsea's loss, that's just an anomaly, when you look at Chelsea's remaining games, I'm sure you will look at matches against Burnley and Palace as 3 pointers but definitely not against Spurs...

dubylhover:


lol,you know d funny thing,whilst in my office,if you saw d way I was bragging to opposition fans that we would smoke Liverpool 4 0 self,but after that me and direct boss who's also a united fan were talking btw ourselves that we know its draw mou would go for..he even joked that mou would park 911 trailer..so its what was expected

dubylhover:


anomaly you say? it now brings me to the question,what shall it profit a Chelsea to win Tottenham away and lose to Burnley and crystal palace...I'm sure conte mustve "overprepared" for facing a rival that he forgot that in the end,its still 3 points..

it can b argued that we lost the title in 2012 to city because we lost 6 1 at home hence d superior goal difference,or from another perspective is that we shoudnt have drawn Everton at home that season or lost away to a relagation bound Wigan...

but to b honest this whole ish is getting stale,like afrodoc said,we all want what's best for the club..the beauty of the game football is that we all can't understand and enjoy it the same way....

let's look forward to our game against benfica

CapitalCee:


That is being realistic, nobody is applauding a draw Even if it was away to Madrid, but considering the situation, a point is not bad. 0-0 is better than 4-3.

In tomorrow's game, Benfica are not good this season we need to beat them home and away to wrap up that group on time and face the league till February/March. Jones should be rested, even young, Blind should start at the left. My opinion though

patrickmuf:
Sure, should be a good game tomorrow.

patrickmuf:
Benfica might come out firing oh! I just hope we end the game before it begins, quick fire double...lol

CapitalCee:


Don't you think Mkhitaryan need to sit out this one? He has played virtually all our matches, considering he is not even doing so well. Mourinho might play him though considering his good record in Europe.

patrickmuf:
The thing is we are light weight in terms of personnel right now and I don't see Mou starting both Martial and Rashford from the get go, so Mhkitaryan will start...But I'd prefer Martial - Mata - Rashford behind Lukaku...
Young shouldn't be played as a right winger again, he should start at LB...Any news on Shaw? I see he is part of the traveling squad.

CapitalCee:
I will honestly suggest that mourinho leaves United, so that the board can try the so called Football Aristotles so that we will know which is better.

joeace2020:
Maybe, just maybe if we see it this way we would understand. We were playing Liverpool away on a hot afternoon and the first match of the day after returning from an international break, we've lost our best midfielders and on top of that our best defender.

That would put us in a precarious situation if we should lose because Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Tottenham were expected to come away with wins. It then met if Arsenal and Chelsea had won they'd be on 16 points each, and if we lost we'd just be 3 points above them and 2 points above Tottenham who won. That means it comes down to the next games for those teams to level with us or climb above united on the table... To make matters worse we have two of those teams in our next 3 epl games. Would you risk loosing 3 points with Chelsea and Tottenham closing on you and coming up against you in the next games? I wouldn't. In fact i'd field 7 defenders if possible! And Mourinho set out for a point and i am sure he would be celebrating and having a party after seeing Chelsea and Arsenal drop so much points he probably didn't think both of them would. It then means if we get another 3 points against Huddersfield and come up with a draw away to Chelsea or hopefully a win or worse draw to Tottenham at home, we will still be above them by a good number of points and that's like half our big games out of the way. All i am saying is at the end of the day, the manager set up to draw this game to better compete by season's end even SAF was applauding him after the game.

dopeJemi:


Hehehehehehe


we will find out

Lana1:
Errm... Liverpool also had key players out to injury. Plus most of their players also just got back from the International breaks. Infact Liverpool players covered more distance during those 2 weeks than United players.

So this ur talk of injuries and international break doesn't hold water.

I'm not understanding.
So the aim now is to draw to maintain distance between 2nd place and those below us, rather than push to move into 1st position and aim to start putting distance between us and title rivals? I dont know about u but i believe titles are won from 1st position and not 2nd.
Despite the injuries to our midfielders, we could ve won the Liverpool game. Win ur own games and the results of other teams becomes insignificant.

CapitalCee:
I have Bale could be included in the deal

Madrid sha...


No, thanks. We don't want Bale over Rashford