Deebay:

Hi.
Sorry for the late response, yeah there was a year and half gap after my nysc.
Yes I am using the same NOC of nysc as my other job, which I got 1.5 years after nysc.
Since I could get ref letter from my ppa I decided to add it.

Thanks for the reply @Deebay, your profile is straight forward as your NYSC and other job fall on the same NOC. This is clearly acceptable by IRCC. My curiosity, and what still remains unclear, is if there's someone in the house who had combined an NYSC NOC different from other job NOC. That will be very helpful.

Congrats to all ITA recipients. May God see y'all through.

Yooku:


Predictions, predictions, predictions People are going "nuts" in London VO Whatsapp Group at the crazy London VO timelines
The thing don dey tire me well well well

@yewwy @veleta @deeore @ lordnath @ajujuju2 @yewwygrace @boldinc @mrsbee

Today marks 80 days in NA2. I'm tired mehn, tired of analysing cases on immitracker just to determine possible PPR date. So I decided to take a 'siddon look' approach and focus instead on my travel plans.

Let them take their time in Trafalgar Square...when it exceeds normal processing timeframe, I'll bring down their door.
Good luck all London crew and all the best with travel plans.

Yooku:
When you fill in your wife's details as unaccompanying does that maintain your points? If you can do that there is no issue with your daughter included as a dependant. I think she should be able to go with you once your PR is granted. Cheers

Yes, once I fill her as unaccompanying, I maintain my points. but if I click "YES" for spouse accompanying, my CRS score reduces

You say what?
CIC system obeying the call of God since 1885

chuckdee13:
I'm guessing no one saw this post. Congrats mippishick. its odd but we all know the Good Lord works in mysterious ways.

Yooku:


There is a form that WES sends you which needs to be filled out by your Academic Registrar or whoever works on your transcript and included in the same sealed envelope your transcript is placed in. Cheers!

Thanks a whole lot, but your explanation makes it seems a lot more complicated now. How do i request for the form cause WES never sent me anything after registration #pensive

elfmann:

Cancel ITA.

Like seriously?

Oh I understand now. Thanks!

GlitteringStar:


You can get 5 points for adaptability if you have a relative (parent, grandparent, child, sibling, uncle or aunt, niece or nephew) who is a PR/Canadian citizen living in Canada under the FSW program but for the 15 additional CRS Express Entry points, you need to have a sibling in Canada who is a PR/Citizen.

Great stuff.

cochtrane:



Looked in detail into this foreign work experience stuff and found some things:

Apparently, CIC allows (or should allow) the use of foreign work experience (outside Canada) in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0, A or B. This means, you could effectively combine different NOCs in your application. This justifies merrymum's application which combined work experience in finance and oil&gas. This is acceptable as long as it

1. consists of full-time work experience
2. is acquired within the 10-year period preceding application
3. paid, etc.

So, if you've got 3 years of such various NOCs (0, A & B only), you can get the maximum points for express entry and obtain a decent CRS score. This is according to the ministerial instruction for the express entry application system. According to the document, under "Foreign Work Experience":

25 (1) For the purposes of sections 23 and 24, foreign work experience is work experience that

(a) is acquired by a foreign national outside Canada in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;



Now, for the different schemes under EE, other conditions apply.



However, to qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker program, you would need only one primary NOC and you'll make sure to have at least 1 year on this NOC, which should be 0, A or B. And of course, it must meet all the other FSW requirements as below. In the same vein, you can combine NOCs here to complete 1 year. However, they must all be in the same NOC.



This would be what that IRCC tweet meant. The answer was posed wrongly and should have referred to the FSW program.



To qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Trades program, your work experience would need to meet a separate list of requirements, including that it should be 2 years and should be within 5 years of application, not 10.

On the other hand, to qualify for PR under the Canadian Experience Class, the requirement for work experience is that it must be 1-year and be obtained within three years of application.

As you'll see, all of these different work experiences are all subset of the work experience required under express entry, which in itself has no limit on the number of NOCs you can combine.


So, as an example, let's say Bisi has 2-year work experience as a paid teacher and 1-year as a banker with GTB, all within 10 years of applying under FSW through Express Entry. Bisi should sure be able to claim maximum score for experience under Express Entry (3 years of experience), thereby boosting her CRS score. But in order to qualify for PR under FSW, she will only be able to use one NOC, either as a paid teacher (and claim 2 years) or as a banker (and claim 1 year). If any of these is unable to elevate her above the required 67pts under FSW, she may remain ineligible for FSW even though she may have high CRS score.

If the same Bisi has 5-month experience each as a paid teacher, banker, engineer & lawyer, she will have a sum of 1 year & 8 months experience in different NOCs which she can use to obtain a good CRS score under express entry, but will remain ineligible for PR under FSW as she doesn't have the required minimum of 1 year in any NOC, i.e. she has no primary NOC.

Similarly, if Bisi has 2-month experience each as an accountant with KPMG, E&Y, Deloitte, Firstbank, GTB & Stanbic (wow, Bisis must be one brilliant chic, lol!), she would have raked in 1-year experience in a primary NOC (accountancy) and should thus be eligible to combine these NOCs towards PR under the FSW scheme.

In the case of merrymum, my good guess is that while the sum of different NOCs boosted her CRS score under express entry, only one of the NOCs was sufficient to ensure she got the necessary score above 67 which she needed under FSW. Let's look at it: she has a 2.5-year experience as an engineer. This means she could have gotten for FSW, with CLB 9, 24pts on language, 21 pts for Education (let's say she has only Bachelor's), 11 pts for work experience, and 12pts for Age (I'm sure she is between 18-35). This would have taken her FSW score to 68/100 and would have qualified her neatly with only one job experience. She can come and clear this; I could be wrong.

These are just findings from looking at the details. We needed to clear this as it is causing too much confusion. Anyways, who knows, I may be wrong.

KINGTELLER:


Yes, once I fill her as unaccompanying, I maintain my points. but if I click "YES" for spouse accompanying, my CRS score reduces

She can do IELTS and possibly ECA to up your CRS back to 432 if not more. The only reason why you will hava a lower CRS is if youfill her as accompanying and she did not support you with her IELTS and ECA.
An accompanying spouse with IELTS &ECA will give almost same CRS as a non accompanying spouse. CRS might even be more sef

daremum:
Thank you.

I included my uncle before getting ITA,got no point for using him as my uncle,POST ITA, i prefer to not use him at all,

am i good to go?

Are you sure you didn't get points for adaptability also? You might become ineligible if the additional 5 points was added to your FSW points to make you eligible for the program.

So this means the 5 points will only be useful if i take the provincial nomination route right?

GlitteringStar:


You can get 5 points for adaptability if you have a relative (parent, grandparent, child, sibling, uncle or aunt, niece or nephew) who is a PR/Canadian citizen living in Canada under the FSW program but for the 15 additional CRS Express Entry points, you need to have a sibling in Canada who is a PR/Citizen.

Married applicant both have PhD
Both maximum score on ielts
Both are 29 and 30
She has a sibling who is a citizen.
Husband has trf

I calculated and what I saw didn't seem possible.

Some people are silently chopping crs scores

Hephgirl:
Married applicant both have PhD
Both maximum score on ielts
Both are 29 and 30
She has a sibling who is a citizen.
Husband has trf

I calculated and what I saw didn't seem possible.

Some people are silently chopping crs scores

Yes o... plenty silent choppers

sleekysilk:


She can do IELTS and possibly ECA to up your CRS back to 432 if not more. The only reason why you will hava a lower CRS is if youfill her as accompanying and she did not support you with her IELTS and ECA.
An accompanying spouse with IELTS &ECA will give almost same CRS as a non accompanying spouse. CRS might even be more sef

Yes, I know but I dont want to expense money on her doing all that , she is not really showing much interest and I can't afford to raise much money doing IELTs and ECA for her (Lots of project on ground to do my brother).... To be frank with you the purpose of doing this thing is to secure my child's future, it's not that I have much interest in it.

Hello Ugoiyke,

How far with the Port Harcourt pre-arrival session you were trying secure? Is it closed. Can I register with ITA because the website states one must have PPR, COPR, PUM etc.

I hope to hear from you soon on it.

ugoiyke79e:
Congrays to all ITA recipients........I am sure you guys/ladies will sleep like kings/queens tonight....Just a few reminders.

--Strictly adhere to all the specificied document format,type and content.
--Scan and save each document with its appropriate name . This is to avoid confusion when uploadining.
--upload each document in d correct placeholder.
--use your LOE judiciously.
--stall your medical exam till a few days (or even same day) of submission.
--Pray,pray, & pray again. for a good VO and LVO
--Start packing your stuff
We are all expecting ppr rains frm y'all.

chuckdee13:
I'm guessing no one saw this post. Congrats mippishick. its odd but we all know the Good Lord works in mysterious ways.

I think he is trying to say that he missed yesterday's draw (ITA) by just few points.

Cc: Newmum0615, MippiShick

If without your uncle, you will still be able to get up to 67 out of 100 for eligibility, then you can easily remove him after ITA.

I indicated that I had an Uncle in Canada pre-ITA. However, when I realised I had to provide some documents to support the claim, I changed it to no relative in Canada after ITA. This did not affect my application.

daremum:
Thank you.

I included my uncle before getting ITA,got no point for using him as my uncle,POST ITA, i prefer to not use him at all,

am i good to go?

Madcow:


Many thanks Bro.

I will proceed as advised, I applied online so i am still with my passport... I logged on to my profile and i cannot find a link/instructions to withdraw/discontinue the application.

Please from your experience, how do you think i can go about this?

Hi,

Raise a CSE and choose Accra as your visa office. Also send a mail to accra email address. Your application will be withdrawn if they are yet to touch ur file.
It might take up to two months to withdraw ur app. I hopee this helps.

.

Abbylee:
So this means the 5 points will only be useful if i take the provincial nomination route right?

It is useful for the FSW program. The 5 points can make one to be eligible for the FSW's program. For example, someone with a score of 62/100 can get additional 5 points for adaptability if such person has a relative (PR/Citizen) living in Canada. The person's score will be boosted to 67/100 which will now make him/her to be eligible for the FSW program.

elfmann:

Cancel ITA.

I will be thankful if you could elaborate why.

Kind regards,

elfmann:

Cancel ITA.

You're so mean... He should cancel ITA in this scarce times of same?

Madcow:


I will be thankful if you could elaborate why.

Kind regards,

cochtrane:



Looked in detail into this foreign work experience stuff and found some things:

Apparently, CIC allows (or should allow) the use of foreign work experience (outside Canada) in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0, A or B. This means, you could effectively combine different NOCs in your application. This justifies merrymum's application which combined work experience in finance and oil&gas. This is acceptable as long as it

1. consists of full-time work experience
2. is acquired within the 10-year period preceding application
3. paid, etc.

So, if you've got 3 years of such various NOCs (0, A & B only), you can get the maximum points for express entry and obtain a decent CRS score. This is according to the ministerial instruction for the express entry application system. According to the document, under "Foreign Work Experience":

25 (1) For the purposes of sections 23 and 24, foreign work experience is work experience that

(a) is acquired by a foreign national outside Canada in one or more occupations listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix;



Now, for the different schemes under EE, other conditions apply.



However, to qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker program, you would need only one primary NOC and you'll make sure to have at least 1 year on this NOC, which should be 0, A or B. And of course, it must meet all the other FSW requirements as below. In the same vein, you can combine NOCs here to complete 1 year. However, they must all be in the same NOC.



This would be what that IRCC tweet meant. The answer was posed wrongly and should have referred to the FSW program.



To qualify for PR under the Federal Skilled Trades program, your work experience would need to meet a separate list of requirements, including that it should be 2 years and should be within 5 years of application, not 10.

On the other hand, to qualify for PR under the Canadian Experience Class, the requirement for work experience is that it must be 1-year and be obtained within three years of application.

As you'll see, all of these different work experiences are all subset of the work experience required under express entry, which in itself has no limit on the number of NOCs you can combine.


So, as an example, let's say Bisi has 2-year work experience as a paid teacher and 1-year as a banker with GTB, all within 10 years of applying under FSW through Express Entry. Bisi should sure be able to claim maximum score for experience under Express Entry (3 years of experience), thereby boosting her CRS score. But in order to qualify for PR under FSW, she will only be able to use one NOC, either as a paid teacher (and claim 2 years) or as a banker (and claim 1 year). If any of these is unable to elevate her above the required 67pts under FSW, she may remain ineligible for FSW even though she may have high CRS score.

If the same Bisi has 5-month experience each as a paid teacher, banker, engineer & lawyer, she will have a sum of 1 year & 8 months experience in different NOCs which she can use to obtain a good CRS score under express entry, but will remain ineligible for PR under FSW as she doesn't have the required minimum of 1 year in any NOC, i.e. she has no primary NOC.

Similarly, if Bisi has 2-month experience each as an accountant with KPMG, E&Y, Deloitte, Firstbank, GTB & Stanbic (wow, Bisis must be one brilliant chic, lol!), she would have raked in 1-year experience in a primary NOC (accountancy) and should thus be eligible to combine these NOCs towards PR under the FSW scheme.

In the case of merrymum, my good guess is that while the sum of different NOCs boosted her CRS score under express entry, only one of the NOCs was sufficient to ensure she got the necessary score above 67 which she needed under FSW. Let's look at it: she has a 2.5-year experience as an engineer. This means she could have gotten for FSW, with CLB 9, 24pts on language, 21 pts for Education (let's say she has only Bachelor's), 11 pts for work experience, and 12pts for Age (I'm sure she is between 18-35). This would have taken her FSW score to 68/100 and would have qualified her neatly with only one job experience. She can come and clear this; I could be wrong.

These are just findings from looking at the details. We needed to clear this as it is causing too much confusion. Anyways, who knows, I may be wrong.

@cochtrane, thanks for your contribution on this topic. I hold the same opinion with you but this recent reply(find attached from 6days ago) I got from tweeting at IRCC is casting doubt on that opinion. Of course they(IRCC twitter handler) can make mistakes while giving answers to queries too which could be misleading to applicants. That’s why I’m keen on contributions from anyone in the house who has combined different NOCs before to clear the smoke. This will be very much appreciated.

balogunsam:
Thank you God!!

@Kontagious @Glitteringstar @Hephgirl @threadstone @Jummolami and others who have been most helpful, thank you!

ITA dropped around 4AM...was waiting and refreshing all night but had to succumb to sleep around 2AM.

Una thank you!


Timeline so far:

IELTS: May 13, 2017
ECA: October 12, 2017
Entry into Pool: October 13, 2017
Removed Business Experience: October 14, 2017 (Spirit was not settled with the information provided)
ITA: October 18, 2017
COPR: February 16, 2018
Landing: March 13, 2018

**italicised text in faith**

**anyone who has 7m they are not using should borrow me o... @hephgirl ma... i have a feeling i'll hear from you soon!

nagode!

Congrats Uncle. That 7m no be here o but trust God, e go show.

Haa @yookus. I dint last a day in that whatsapp group. it was such a depressing group for me, I ran out as fast as I joined. keeping faith and hoping ppr happens to all of us real soon.

Yooku:


Predictions, predictions, predictions People are going "nuts" in London VO Whatsapp Group at the crazy London VO timelines
The thing don dey tire me well well well

@yewwy @veleta @deeore @ lordnath @ajujuju2 @yewwygrace @boldinc @mrsbee

I am not sure they will reject the TRV application jsut because of ITA? It might not make sense to have TRV if he/she does not have plans to travel to Canada before PPR. If he/she however has plans to do something very important in Canada, say to write professional exams before PPR, then I believe he/she should still be able to use the TRV. It is not all applications that are processed within 3 months. Some people even wait for over a year.

@Madcow, you can read this link below for more information about having dual intents.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/visa/dual.asp

sleekysilk:


You still ave to cancel the TRV. Because for visiting, you are to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you don't have intention to stay back, that you are retuning to your country after the visit. Now that u have an ITA, that clearly negates ur intent because it means you have plans to permanently live in Canada. Based on ur dual (contradicting) intentions, ur TRV is likely to be rejected. So it's best you cancel it yourself. Hope I'm clear enough.

Madcow:


Many thanks.

The TRV was for "General Visit" not study.

sleekysilk:


You still ave to cancel the TRV. Because for visiting, you are to prove beyond reasonable doubt that you don't have intention to stay back, that you are retuning to your country after the visit. Now that u have an ITA, that clearly negates ur intent because it means you have plans to permanently live in Canada. Based on ur dual (contradicting) intentions, ur TRV is likely to be rejected. So it's best you cancel it yourself. Hope I'm clear enough.

You still have to consider also that, sometimes when you withdraw an application, it returns and counts to you as a REFUSAL(read this somewhere on NL). I think it has to do with how long since its been submitted or something like that. Well, I don't think you should mind withdrawing your application still though, but I'd suggest after eAPR or AOR. No other reason than, incase the withdrawals comes as a refusal, you won't have to fill it in your PR application. Make sense?

By the way edakun, I don go do omo baba olowo for studio 24 tell dem say na pr i wan use am for. snap pishure (hard and soft copy 2500).

getting here i dey see una dey talk say post ita and ppr pishur dimension different. Be kiaful o. which is which

make i begin stroll go back o.

Boda lappy @40manlappy @elfmann, @everybody ur attenshun is needed.

KINGTELLER:


Yes, I know but I dont want to expense money on her doing all that , she is not really showing much interest and I can't afford to raise much money doing IELTs and ECA for her (Lots of project on ground to do my brother).... To be frank with you the purpose of doing this thing is to secure my child future not that I too really have much [b]interest [/b]as such

Ok. Since you know, and you have planned it out, go ahead with your plans. But u guys wait o... all these spouse doesn't have interest, plus principal too no get interest abeg make una reduce the number of people in the pool for CIC to reduce CRS na. Na joke I dey joke ooo. I dont know how cash tight you are anyway but I still feel paying for IELTS for your spouse even if u want to avoid ECA should not be that bad. Afterall, you still have to pay for her medicals and PCC plus show POF for her and every family member even if she's not accompanying you. God that will provide all the other funds can also provide IELTS money if you ask him to.
My thoughts though. Final decision is yours.

My brother that's the spirit o, my own is the 85th day on na2, me don commot mind sef, until they told me to go and pay rprf, that gave me small hope, and that was almost 3weeks ago.
I just siddon dey look, I don't even check anywhere again except nairaland and just read chats on the group make I no come get hypertension before ppr go come show face.

Lordnath:


Today marks 80 days in NA2. I'm tired mehn, tired of analysing cases on immitracker just to determine possible PPR date. So I decided to take a 'siddon look' approach and focus instead on my travel plans.

Let them take their time in Trafalgar Square...when it exceeds normal processing timeframe, I'll bring down their door.
Good luck all London crew and all the best with travel plans.

einsteino:


dont mind me, i forgot to share that with the house.

here is my timeline for ECA

accessing body: WES
degree: Bachelor of Engineering
School: UNN

Applied for ECA and Paid fees : 30-JUL-2017
Applied for transcript: 8-AUG-2017 (application was done online using UNN itranscript portal)
sent copy of cert via Hellofax: 25-AUG-2017
WES acknowledged receipt of cert : 25-AUG-2017
UNN despatched transcript via DHL: 28-AUG-2017
Transcripts received by WES: 31-AUG-2017
Got pissed with WES delay in acknowledging receipt of trnscript, sent email and fax demanding update :6-SEP-2017
Staus changed to documents received- awaiting Verification : 7-SEP-2017
Applied for Verification of transcript: 11-SEP-2017 (application was done online using UNN iVerification portal)
sent someone in school to go ginger my verification: 18-SEP-2017
Verification sent: 19-SEP-2017
Staus changed to Document Received - Review in progress :20-SEP-2017
ETA updated as 11-OCT-2017.. dont know when it happened
Staus changed to Final Review :10-OCT-2017
ECA completed : 11-OCT-2017

einsteino how were you able to include/send the the WES evaluation form for UNN to dispatch along withyour transcript to WES, since you applied online?

I have applied online but I don't know how I can include/send the WES evaluation form to UNN to include in transcript since I am not residing in Enugu?