Lordave:
Nonsense.

I worship in the church, though I'm in Nigeria now I can authoritatively tell you that what the OP posted is nothing but falsehood from egoistic Christians seeking for the downfall of our Daddy in the Lord.
I even streamed his latest sermon this morning and Mr Jacob was as ebullient and uncompromising as always.

We at the Luciferian church stands with Mr Jacobs and his mission in the world.

salt1:



I like your parody!

Lordave:
It not a parody, I refuting that claim with my heart and of course not bereft of facts.

Desist from such fallacies, it doesn't befit someone of your repute.

OtemSapien:
Christians can tell lies sha
Whenever you see anyone telling lies, ask him, are you a Christian?

salt1:


I won't intentionally spread lies and falsehood. His converting doesn't minimize my allegiance to a faith I hold so dear.
If you have information to the contrary, please share

Lordave:
Nonsense.

I worship in the church, though I'm in Nigeria now I can authoritatively tell you that what the OP posted is nothing but falsehood from egoistic Christians seeking for the downfall of our Daddy in the Lord.
I even streamed his latest sermon this morning and Mr Jacob was as ebullient and uncompromising as always.

We at the Luciferian church stands with Mr Jacobs and his mission in the world.

OtemSapien:
first give us your link.

salt1:


I read it on Wikipedia and even on satanist and luciferian websites where they were lamenting the blow his decamping has cost them and accusing him of being a con man.
The Great Church of Lucifer has closed shop because their tenancy expired and their landlady refused a renewal. They also are battling internal doctrinal conflicts. They have even adopted a new name: The Assembly of Light Bearers or something like that.

Many of the members are jumping ship, son.

Wise up!

OtemSapien:
pls link to where you read it from. Thanks.

salt1:


I'm sorry I'm not so internet savvy to copy and paste links. It will link you to other mentions and even the YouTube video

Doctufos: Karmish 4:1-27
1. Now when Pol would have gone to Syria, he came first to Petra and said, O Petra, I know that I have stayed away from you for many weeks. But I have done all for your good and for the good of Krishtanite. 2. I have been sent to Damascus to fight against your people. Now I have made my plan, and it is a good one. For I shall fall flat at the valley near unto Damascus. 3. And I shall feign blindness until you shall send one of your disciples to me to pretend as if I have been cured. And Pol returned the scrolls which he collected from Petra and his colleagues. 4. And Petra was glad at the plan of Sol. 5. Now Petra appointed Mateu, one of the disciples of Yeshua to follow Pol to Damascus. And he shall witness when Pol shall fall. And he shall go and call Ananias to come and do a karmish before them all. 6. Now Mateu went with Sol, pretending to be a messenger of Sol. And they went together with the disciples of Gumid to see if they shall be able to fight against the Krishtens who were at Damascus. 7. Now while they had reached the valley of many sands, Sol released himself and fell backward. And he feigned as if a visible angel spoke with him. 8. And Sol said, who are you O Great Light? And Sol acted karmish before them and they saw no light which he spoke with. And they were amazed, for Sol did feign as one who was blind. 9. And Mateu left Sol as one who fled. And the colleagues of Sol said, who is that who fled the side of his master? And Sol said to those around him, it is the voice of Yeshua I heard; he who was betrayed by a homo called Iskariot. 10. Now Yeshua has said to me that the house of Iskariot which he built here in Damascus shall be possessed for him, because Iskariot did build it out of the money which he stole from the treasury of Yeshua the Krista. Now is the house of Iskariot not in Decumanus, that beautiful lane? 11. Now take me to Decumanus that I might await he who shall restore my sight to me. So they led Sol to Decumanus, into the house which Iskariot. And the house was empty and overgrown with weeds. 12. Now after they had waited till the next morning, the people said, we shall leave you here O Sol. And Sol said, did you not see how the light struck me down from the horse? For that is Krista the saviour of Juda. 13. And the homos said, how then is that our preoccupation? Are we not sent by Gumid to stop the spread of this same Krista as a god? Now we have no business in this. 14. And Sol began to say, if you wait a little more time, you shall see how Krista himself shall send someone to cure me of this blindness. And you shall know that I speak the truth. 15. Now Mateu went to the heart of Damascus to see Ananias who had hid himself there since the day he made a karmish before the people of Juda who thought that he had died and was buried. 16. And Mateu said, O Ananias, I have been appointed to come for you so that you could go and see Sol and cure him of the blindness which he pretended upon himself. 17. And Ananias said, is it not the same Sol whom Stevin saw with the disciples of Gumid? I shall not go because Sol is a hater of our religion. And Mateu said, you have no knowledge of many things. For this Sol is he who can take our belief far into other cities outside Juda, because he is well learned in vast languages. 18. For he can speak the language of Grecon and of Rome and of Egypt and about twelve languages of Philargas. And you know how unlearned we all followers of Yeshua are. 19. And Petra deemed it right to pay one who is learned to bear the weight of our religion and spread it far. Now Ananias, Sol is now in the house of Iskariot, the same homo who sold out our lord. 20. Go there now and you shall pretend the healing before all who are with him. And they shall undoubtedly believe. And Ananias said, I shall not go there alone except you go with me. For I fear that this Sol shall kill me. For I have not heard before now that Sol is one of us. 21. And Mateu said, go alone, for if they see me with you, they shall know that I have come to call you. So Ananias came out of the house and climbed upon his camel as he began to go toward the house of Iskariot. 22. Now Shimmon saw Ananias, for he had returned to Damascus to tell others about his faith(for Shimmon himself lived in Damascus). 23. And Shimmon was surprised when he saw Ananias upon the camel, for he had been presented as dead before the people before. And Ananias was greatly amazed. And he went into the house where Ananias left. And he saw Mateu in the house. 24. And Mateu told him the whole truth. And Shimmon was greatly disappointed in Petra and in all the others, for he had left his own business of magia, thinking that he had found the whole truth. 25. And Shimmon went away and returned to his business. And he did not return to the disciples of Yeshua anymore. 26. Now few hours after, Ananias came in to Sol. And Ananias said, I have been sent by Krista to cure your blindness. And he made a pretence before all, and Sol opened his eyes. 27. And all who saw it were amazed. And they believed in the things they saw. And they did not return to Gumid anymore, saying, we have found Krista.

OtemSapien:

Don't bother, I've read the story. This thing happened since March so it's an old news. However, this technique of conversion is not new to a knower like myself. If you want to gain popularity and members, all you need to do is plan a Karmish. i.e make some public declarations against what you actually believe, then after one or two years, change suddenly and tell the whole world that you no more believe in what you declared publicly earlier. By so doing, even those who don't know you before will know you. That was what Pol did in his days. Pol was a friend of Petra and because he wanted Christianity to be made popular, he began to speak against it. Then, as planned, he suddenly said that Jesus Christ have converted him. Then he gained lot of attention. That's what we call KARMISH in the Seriot language.
See the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH below for the example of Pol given above:


KARMISH is the surviving technique Christianity is still using till date. Even the butterflyl1on you mentioned is a great user of Karmish, where you will see him sharing false testimonies just to make money.

OtemSapien:

Don't bother, I've read the story. This thing happened since March so it's an old news. However, this technique of conversion is not new to a knower like myself. If you want to gain popularity and members, all you need to do is plan a Karmish. i.e make some public declarations against what you actually believe, then after one or two years, change suddenly and tell the whole world that you no more believe in what you declared publicly earlier. By so doing, even those who don't know you before will know you. That was what Pol did in his days. Pol was a friend of Petra and because he wanted Christianity to be made popular, he began to speak against it. Then, as planned, he suddenly said that Jesus Christ have converted him. Then he gained lot of attention. That's what we call KARMISH in the Seriot language.
See the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH below for the example of Pol given above:


KARMISH is the surviving technique Christianity is still using till date. Even the butterflyl1on you mentioned is a great user of Karmish, where you will see him sharing false testimonies just to make money.

salt1:


Hmmm.
I don't know what to make of this.

My theology is very simple: God through His Son Jesus Christ can make anyone to become His child by forgiving his sins.

Whether his conversion is pretext or real, I don't know but my joy is that Christ is preached and believed.

BTW, his conversion is more than a year old. He was baptized in March.

Thanks for stopping by. God bless you

butterflyl1on:


You must be mad! Can you show me one post of mine where I shared a personal testimony and solicited money from anyone?

I think I have ignored you enough.

Mynd44 this guy has broken rule 8 and needs to be dealt with in accordance with Nairaland rules.

butterflyl1on:
Mynd44 there has been a calculated attempt by otemsapien also known as otematum to fabricate all manner of nonsense against my moniker. Things I am ignorant of and find totally puzzling.

Kindly note this person and he or she who is behind that moniker needs to cease and desist forthwith.

I have been deliberately ignoring his or her many provocations and will do so no more.

OtemSapien:


So it's no more news. My conversion to the realisation of my purpose on earth here is also more than a year old now. Life is soldier go, soldier come. Take care.

salt1:


You're still growing son.
People change and modify their beliefs as they progress. When sh*t hits the fan, people seek for answers and lean towards what gives them assurance.

Even the poster boy for atheism Richard Dawkins now accepts intelligent design.
I pray you find the peace and purpose you're looking for

OtemSapien:
It's not possible for someone who has already seen his soul, seen the gods, seen his mission on earth, seen the whole universe, have all the true history of the world to change or modifies what he knows. Mind you, changing and modifying does not belong to a god and knower like me, it's the portion of the masses and believers.
Just to let you know, my purpose on earth is to reduce gullibility and slavery of the mind and to destroy religion. I am Otem, the one your ancestors were talking about before the arrival of foreign religions. See the history of the universe here.


https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos

salt1:


Many have said and believed worse.....and eaten their words later.

You can't destroy what you didn't create.
What are the credentials of the writer/s of the true history of the world? What/who gave them their 'facts'?

See you on the other side of sanity!
I pray it doesn't get late

OtemSapien:
Give me examples of the so called 'many' and I will show you some deceivers. I am here to destroy religion in the minds of people and to make them use their brains and worship no gods, because currently Yahweh, Allah and many other gods of religion are already caged by the good gods of science and findings. May the light of God Almighty who created Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Moloch and everything reveal the truth to you before it's too late, ase!

salt1:


I don't get you. In one breath, you destroy religion. In another, you worship the good gods of science and findings. Still in another, you subscribe to God Almighty.
I don't think you're talking of the same deity and I see you believe in religion.

You'd accused me of lying, I showed you my sources. You said the convert must be pretending, I told you I can't tell.
You sound thoroughly confused.

My unsolicited advice: seek help before you lose it completely

OtemSapien:
pls quote me where I said I WORSHIP THE GOOD gods OF SCIENCE.
Yes there is ALMIGHTY GOD who created all the gods you guys worship. I mean Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Mazda, Moloch, Baalim, Odin, Olorun, Eshu etc whom you guys take as God Almighty are actually his creatures.
I didn't say that you are the one telling lie, I was refering to the Luciferian Church founder when I read what you posted. I have already seen that he was using Karmish. Then I wanted to read from the source, so I asked you for a link.
You don't actually know what I know, so it's hard for you to judge me yet. Yes, there are gods of science but they are not being worshipped. Again, you can point to where I said that I worship gods of science.

Note: Not everything called god demands worship. For example, I am a god but I hate worship so much.