@Obi
Our SA expats are heavily involved with the development of SA we're not SELFISH PEOPLE like Igbos. The likes of Elon Musk, Dr Patrick Soon Shiong (richest doctor in the world of Chinese descent born in SA township in Port Elizabeth grew up with blacks and coloureds). They all look up to people like Madiba and listen to MIRRIAM MAKEBA and other SA greats when they miss home.

Obi1kenobi:


If you're going to drag your arses here to brag and belittle and denigrate us, it is only fair to point out much of this advancement you're bragging about wasn't a product of your own enterprise and ingenuity. "Oyinbo worship" is those who wouldn't dare lift their fingers against white residents who have eclipsed them and monopolized their national wealth, but choose to attack the easy targets that are Somali and Nigeria shop-owners, and Malawi and Zimbabwean labourers.

You people worship whites ... You even force other nationalities to sell your drugs in their shops eg poor Somalians . Black south Africans do not tolerate racism... I'm not saying it doesn't happen but when it does we fight against it...Check YouTube and you will see . south Africans don't tolerate bullshit . whether its from the government or your onyibos n they know that. can't say the same about you guys since url still wanna be recolonised

Colonial Nigger Area the BRITISH ABOLSHED THE ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE where the heartless EVIL bastards sold each other for mirrors and combs.

Between 1795 and 1910 there was racial harmony in SA even though there were wars in rural parts. The urban areas were mixed the likes of DISTRICT SIX, SOPHIATOWN and many gave birth to SA's urban culture and jazz culture.

They make noise about a 42 year period regime and forgetting about Biafra and their own ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE 1450-1867.

This is all because they're BLINDED BY THEIR DEEP SEATED TRIBALISM.

Obi1kenobi:


Is your "doubt" based on any evidence? What do we have in Nigeria that they don't have in Kenya? The proof is in the very pictures posted here. Many committed Nigerian posters threw out the best they felt Nigeria had and the Kenya pics floored us hands down. It's objective reality.

I'm not claiming either that the whole Kenya is like that. Nairobi and Mombassa are just 2 out of 47 counties in Kenya and combined, they make up far less than 0.16% of Kenya's landmass and just over 10% of Kenya's population. I don't know how the rest of Kenya live, but Nairobi and Mombassa are superior to what we have here.

Nigeria is a country where even so-called "high brow" areas have open gutters, have no connected water supply to municipal services and still use generators. I am dead certain this doesn't happen in high-brow areas in Nairobi. Kenya have established quality rail transport infrastructure running between cities and we're still years away from that. Their train stations look better than our airports. Abeg face facts jare!



Nigeria ranks 177 in life expectancy in the world. Even countries like South Sudan, Sudan, Somalia and war-ravaged Syria are above us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Nigeria ranks number 152 globally in the UN Human Development Index and 22 in Africa. Below Kenya.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

There are all kinds of indexes you can find but I'm too lazy to do the job for you, so you'll have to go searching. I'm surprised that in this information age, there are actually any Nigerians that still believe our standard of living is higher than Kenya's.

If you had mentioned Joburg or Capetown as having better infrastructures I would have agreed but mentioning Nairobi or Mombasa is of the mark. Apart from Electricity which I heard is stable in big Kenyan cities(mind you Kenya has a low electrification rate so most parts are in darkness) they cannot stand with Abuja or Lagos. Most of what have been posted here about these cities are what is obtainable commonly in Lagos and Abuja; is it roads we don't have in LAG or Abj? I hope you are not mistaken pictures of parties or carnivals for infrastructure? .
I schooled in Gwagwalada which is an Abj suburb and throughout my 3 year stay off campus I hardly bought water or used borehole; the public service was quite stable talkless of town. So I don't get where you get this ur "no water connection" in posh areas from. People build boreholes because the water service might not be regular or because boreholes are cheaper over time. Nigeria is not doing well at all but please don't come and tell me stories that people who are suffering and pretending are far better off than us. Common election has turn to war in their side that even electoral officers are running but you can piece it together that all these their grandstanding is all packaging?
Kenya just completed their standard guage railway; Nigeria is still on its own and we have finished the Abj-Kaduna stretch so there is nothing fantastic there. I am sure when Nigeria completes hers you will not come here to boast about it. Have you seen pictures of the lobbies on the Abj-kaduna route that you are hailing theirs? Fine lobby na infrastructure.
I no send Naija and you too know but I am tired of all this fake life that somebody who is suffering will come and be pasting pics claiming that they are chilling

Obi1kenobi:


Is your "doubt" based on any evidence? What do we have in Nigeria that they don't have in Kenya? The proof is in the very pictures posted here. Many committed Nigerian posters threw out the best they felt Nigeria had and the Kenya pics floored us hands down. It's objective reality.

I'm not claiming either that the whole Kenya is like that. Nairobi and Mombassa are just 2 out of 47 counties in Kenya and combined, they make up far less than 0.16% of Kenya's landmass and just over 10% of Kenya's population. I don't know how the rest of Kenya live, but Nairobi and Mombassa are superior to what we have here.

Nigeria is a country where even so-called "high brow" areas have open gutters, have no connected water supply to municipal services and still use generators. I am dead certain this doesn't happen in high-brow areas in Nairobi. Kenya have established quality rail transport infrastructure running between cities and we're still years away from that. Their train stations look better than our airports. Abeg face facts jare!



Nigeria ranks 177 in life expectancy in the world. Even countries like South Sudan, Sudan, Somalia and war-ravaged Syria are above us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Nigeria ranks number 152 globally in the UN Human Development Index and 22 in Africa. Below Kenya.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

There are all kinds of indexes you can find but I'm too lazy to do the job for you, so you'll have to go searching. I'm surprised that in this information age, there are actually any Nigerians that still believe our standard of living is higher than Kenya's.

If you had mentioned Joburg or Capetown as having better infrastructures I would have agreed but mentioning Nairobi or Mombasa is of the mark. Apart from Electricity which I heard is stable in big Kenyan cities(mind you Kenya has a low electrification rate so most parts are in darkness) they cannot stand with Abuja or Lagos. Most of what have been posted here about these cities are what is obtainable commonly in Lagos and Abuja; is it roads we don't have in LAG or Abj? I hope you are not mistaken pictures of parties or carnivals for infrastructure? .
I schooled in Gwagwalada which is an Abj suburb and throughout my 3 year stay off campus I hardly bought water or used borehole; the public service was quite stable talkless of town. So I don't get where you get this ur "no water connection" in posh areas from. People build boreholes because the water service might not be regular or because boreholes are cheaper over time. Nigeria is not doing well at all but please don't come and tell me stories that people who are suffering and pretending are far better off than us. Common election has turn to war in their side that even electoral officers are running but you can piece it together that all these their grandstanding is all packaging?
Kenya just completed their standard guage railway; Nigeria is still on its own and we have finished the Abj-Kaduna stretch so there is nothing fantastic there. I am sure when Nigeria completes hers you will not come here to boast about it. Have you seen pictures of the lobbies on the Abj-kaduna route that you are hailing theirs? Fine lobby na infrastructure.
I no send Naija and you too know but I am tired of all this fake life that somebody who is suffering will come and be pasting pics claiming that they are chilling just like Rochas does.

LeSudAfricaine:
It's useless to brag about Nigerians in the diaspora who wouldn't even be bothered to plough back to their native land, what are those in left in Nigeria doing to improve it?FYI there are plenty of black South Africans in the UK but they eventually comeback to settle in SA. South Africans as whole don't travel to other countries that much and yes even your 'beloved' oyinbo, we don't travel much and there's nothing wrong with that, we much rather explore our beautiful country, I myself have been to all SA provinces bar one, although i plan to visit Mozambique and Kenya in the near future.You fail to realise that nations with big populations often have it's people scattered all over the world, you find Indians and the Chinese virtually in all countries, it's not for some supernatural abilities, the Nigerians in the diaspora you allude to obviously make use of the resources the first world affords them, but in the end plough back to the same first world like the US which is tragic. you hardly find kenyans in great numbers overseas too but they are doing in their own country which is important!

You mention the likes of Elon Musk, Charlize Theron and even swimwear models but you forget that these people have had centuries of socio-economic advantages over black South Africans and we have been catch up, don't act like there haven't been black SAns influencing even your life, you probably grew up listening to the likes of Brenda Fassie, Lucky Dube etc Black South Africans brought grammy's in Africa for the first time, the first player to play football in Europe was a black South African Steve Mokone,who doesnt know Miriam Makeba the world over? are there better athletes currently than Wayne Van Niekerk and Caster Semenya? Trevor noah and others? these are black South Africans and you're playing down to fit your 'onyibo is god' agenda. you may say we are 'not pulling trees in our country' but we have become the biggest middle class in a short space of time and that's no small feat!

Who is bragging about Nigerians abroad? The point wasn't so much bragging as refuting the mooronic claims of the other poster that for every good Nigerian abroad, there are thousands of criminals. A load of horsesheite refuted by the simple fact the most educated class of Africans in the US and UK with the highest median incomes are Nigerians and a shiit ton of Nigerians in Western countries are corporate professionals, academics, visual and literary and performing artists, doctors etc. The UK has more Nigerian doctors in the NHS than all other African countries combined. So where does the horsehit come from that we're all basically criminals?

Obi1kenobi:


Who is bragging about Nigerians abroad? The point wasn't so much bragging as refuting the mooronic claims of the other poster that for every good Nigerian abroad, there are thousands of criminals. A load of horsesheite refuted by the simple fact the most educated class of Africans in the US and UK with the highest median incomes are Nigerians and a shiit ton of Nigerians in Western countries are corporate professionals, academics, visual and literary and performing artists, doctors etc. The UK has more Nigerian doctors in the NHS than all other African countries combined. So where does the horsehit come from that we're all basically criminals?

your own president once said that as well :/

darkIsBeautiful:



You people worship whites ... You even force other nationalities to sell your drugs in their shops eg poor Somalians . Black south Africans do not tolerate racism... I'm not saying it doesn't happen but when it does we fight against it...Check YouTube and you will see . south Africans don't tolerate bullshit . whether its from the government or your onyibos n they know that. can't say the same about you guys since url still wanna be recolonised

If they were not SA drug consumers there would be no Nigeria drug dealers.Most of the mob who go on to attack Nigerians in the name of drug dealing are actually crack heads themselves so the claim that they attack because of the harm drug is causing to the society is unfounded. However, I don't care about the death of Nigerian drug dealers in SA. If you can put on trial and they adjudged guilty before killing them then I have no qualms but this present method of killing extra judicially is uncalled for and can lead to the death of innocents.

nigerians do plough back ask any average nigerian who has a relative overseas can attest to. go to most nigerian corporations you find british/ american born or educated nigerians taking up positions. you also find a lot of returnees setting up SMEs. yes the black population in SA may not travel but the caucasians definitely do. you find them in australia, new zealand, uk. to the extent some even represented other countries in sport. crickets kevin peitersen, jonathan trott and strauss readily come to mind. you spoke about countries with high populations being scattered all over the globe ethiopia and sudan these countries also have high populations in western societies have you ever heard their expats dominating the educational and corporate world the way nigerian expats do? yes black SA musicians influenced us same as congolese musicians, west african musicians of various countries to mention. yes nigeria has suffered a lot of brain drain compared to other african countries but we are making progress no matter how slow. no matter how you may wish to deny it the impact of ''onyibo'' in SA society is undeniable

LeSudAfricaine:
It's useless to brag about Nigerians in the diaspora who wouldn't even be bothered to plough back to their native land, what are those in left in Nigeria doing to improve it?FYI there are plenty of black South Africans in the UK but they eventually comeback to settle in SA. South Africans as whole don't travel to other countries that much and yes even your 'beloved' oyinbo, we don't travel much and there's nothing wrong with that, we much rather explore our beautiful country, I myself have been to all SA provinces bar one, although i plan to visit Mozambique and Kenya in the near future.You fail to realise that nations with big populations often have it's people scattered all over the world, you find Indians and the Chinese virtually in all countries, it's not for some supernatural abilities, the Nigerians in the diaspora you allude to obviously make use of the resources the first world affords them, but in the end plough back to the same first world like the US which is tragic. you hardly find kenyans in great numbers overseas too but they are doing in their own country which is important!

You mention the likes of Elon Musk, Charlize Theron and even swimwear models but you forget that these people have had centuries of socio-economic advantages over black South Africans and we have been catch up, don't act like there haven't been black SAns influencing even your life, you probably grew up listening to the likes of Brenda Fassie, Lucky Dube etc Black South Africans brought grammy's in Africa for the first time, the first player to play football in Europe was a black South African Steve Mokone,who doesnt know Miriam Makeba the world over? are there better athletes currently than Wayne Van Niekerk and Caster Semenya? Trevor noah and others? these are black South Africans and you're playing down to fit your 'onyibo is god' agenda. you may say we are 'not pulling trees in our country' but we have become the biggest middle class in a short space of time and that's no small feat!

darkIsBeautiful:



You people worship whites ... You even force other nationalities to sell your drugs in their shops eg poor Somalians . Black south Africans do not tolerate racism... I'm not saying it doesn't happen but when it does we fight against it...Check YouTube and you will see . south Africans don't tolerate bullshit . whether its from the government or your onyibos n they know that. can't say the same about you guys since url still wanna be recolonised

Forced other nationalities to sell drugs. How did they do that? What a deluded load of horseshit.

Black South Africans don't tolerate racism? Except when they attack, maim, loot the properties of, and even murder foreign nationals, including shop owners and Malawian and Zimbabwean labourers - you mean apart from that?

LeSudAfricaine:
your own president once said that as well :/

Said what? That for every good Nigerian, thousands are criminals?

They dont mention SA's non racist past all they do is dwell in the 42 year period that makes em forget Biafra.

THE WORD OF THE DAY IS "Horseshit". HUMAN RACE HATE NIGGER AREAN EVIL AND HEARTLESS MAVROS.

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Forced other nationalities to sell drugs.

chrisooblog:
nigerians do plough back ask any average nigerian who has a relative overseas can attest to. go to most nigerian corporations you find british/ american born or educated nigerians taking up positions. you also find a lot of returnees setting up SMEs. yes the black population in SA may not travel but the caucasians definitely do. you find them in australia, new zealand, uk. to the extent some even represented other countries in sport. crickets kevin peitersen, jonathan trott and strauss readily come to mind. you spoke about countries with high populations being scattered all over the globe ethiopia and sudan these countries also have high populations in western societies have you ever heard their expats dominating the educational and corporate world the way nigerian expats do? yes black SA musicians influenced us same as congolese musicians, west african musicians of various countries to mention. yes nigeria has suffered a lot of brain drain compared to other african countries but we are making progress no matter how slow. no matter how you may wish to deny it the impact of ''onyibo'' in SA society is undeniable

please quote me where I deny the contribution of white people or any other group for that matter

AmenhotepZuid:
THE WORD OF THE DAY IS "Horseshit". HUMAN RACE HATE NIGGER AREAN EVIL AND HEARTLESS MAVROS.

please, quit clinging on to my mentions. Everyone knows you've got a few nuts loose upstairs. I prefer to stick to mildly coherent, sane people.

Obi
WHY IS YOUR TRIBE PRODUCING CRIMINALS AND EVIL PEOPLE

I know Yorubas who grew up with Igbos think crime is being smart. I have seen alot of Femis and Tayos, Olus doing drugs and getting causght. But theyr nothing compared to Obinnas, Ifeanyis,Okechukwus etc...

I knew TRUTH HURTS!!!!!!
NATION OF CRIMINALS WHO ARE BACKWARD AND TRIBALISTIC MORONS.
Who is everyone

Obi1kenobi:


please, quit clinging on to my mentions. Everyone knows you've got a few nuts loose upstairs. I prefer to stick to mildly coherent, sane people.

@Lesud
You're giving this IGBO EMPTY VESSEL too much airtime. In a way he fools himself and thinks he's smart
Los die moegoe...asseblief.

Maduawuchukwu:



If you had mentioned Joburg or Capetown as having better infrastructures I would have agreed but mentioning Nairobi or Mombasa is of the mark. Apart from Electricity which I heard is stable in big Kenyan cities(mind you Kenya has a low electrification rate so most parts are in darkness) they cannot stand with Abuja or Lagos. Most of what have been posted here about these cities are what is obtainable commonly in Lagos and Abuja; is it roads we don't have in LAG or Abj? I hope you are not mistaken pictures of parties or carnivals for infrastructure? .
I schooled in Gwagwalada which is an Abj suburb and throughout my 3 year stay off campus I hardly bought water or used borehole; the public service was quite stable talkless of town. So I don't get where you get this ur "no water connection" in posh areas from. People build boreholes because the water service might not be regular or because boreholes are cheaper over time. Nigeria is not doing well at all but please don't come and tell me stories that people who are suffering and pretending are far better off than us. Common election has turn to war in their side that even electoral officers are running but you can piece it together that all these their grandstanding is all packaging?
Kenya just completed their standard guage railway; Nigeria is still on its own and we have finished the Abj-Kaduna stretch so there is nothing fantastic there. I am sure when Nigeria completes hers you will not come here to boast about it. Have you seen pictures of the lobbies on the Abj-kaduna route that you are hailing theirs? Fine lobby na infrastructure.
I no send Naija and you too know but I am tired of all this fake life that somebody who is suffering will come and be pasting pics claiming that they are chilling just like Rochas does.

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