israelpalatoe:
Prices bro?

It is affordable, 5kva 96v is only #230,000 . We can talk privately for more .

earthrealm:


Its fangpusun 1.16 firmware. 60amp 48v mppt cc.which is a direct victron clone.
The equalization setting is grayed out.
I hope the software is free and readily available.

For remote monitoring...what did u use to connect it to the web?.

Edit..saw thr app on playstore and the bluetooth connector on amazon too...wahala..
So just to set up equalization...i get to jump tru all these hoops..
Guess thats the price to pay for cloned stuff..
Btw epsolar and the fangpusun/victron clone....wch wud u recommend?....


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Cloned or not clone the equalization is turned off on purpose in case the user is not familair with the concept

The setting becomes visible once custom voltages are selected

App is free on play /appstore -

You can always use a laptop and .Ve direct to USB cable ( cheaper )

EPsolar I have no direct experience - I have ordered one Itracer including pure inverter to experiment with Wind and solar hybrid . so Will update in December probably.

again no experience with clones but Victron absolutely yes. Much better than Morningstar for ease of use .

A little-known fact about Victron is that they manufacture it in India!

The new Victron Smart solar CC's support Bluetooth connection out of the box - https://www.victronenergy.com/solar-charge-controllers/smartsolar-150-85-150-100

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pranil:

Cloned or not clone the equalization is turned off on purpose in case the user is not familair with the concept

The setting becomes visible once custom voltages are selected

App is free on play /appstore -

You can always use a laptop and .Ve direct to USB cable ( cheaper )

ok confirmed what i have suspected!.
you know where i can get the VE usb cable locally

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earthrealm:


ok confirmed what i have suspected!.
you know where i can get the VE usb cable locally

Get from JUO... I bought 1 from him some months ago.

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Many thanks Anil.

I will take a look at the options proposed.

I think you are right about the Chinese inverters. I currently have a 6KW Prag, which seems to have developed a problem. The fans (both DC and AC) would randomly start running at top speed and can do that for a whole day if you do not switch off the inverter to reset. My problem is that once it starts running at that speed, the LED display would indicate that the system is loaded up to 60%, meanwhile the actual load may just be less than 15%. In terms of amperage and wattage, it would indicate that the load is about 12A and over 3kw when the actual load is about 1-2A or 400-600W. However, once you switch it off and back on, the load would mysteriously disappear and consumption becomes normal as indicated above. So I am suspecting that the two fans running simultaneously without stop increases the self-consumption of the inverter incredibly higher than normal.

I have contacted Prag and they were not helpful and their only advice was that I change module in the unit, responsible for load and consumption control, at the rate of N120k, for a unit that is just about two years old. So rather than change that module every two years, I would rather spend the funds on getting higher quality, more effective and efficient low self-consuming inverter that would serve me better.

Once again, many thanks for the recommendations.

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Nice...
Of recent I've been wondering, why can't we have a residential/commercial distribution based on DC only.
These days we now have devices which run internally on DC.. LED Bulbs, Fans like this one you posted, USB charging outlets and even Laptop Adapters with Cigarette lighter plugs(12VDC).
These are low power consuming devices.. There are even DC refrigerators, DC Pressing Irons etc.
Using devices directly on DC reduces the conversion losses from converting from the DC generated by the PV and stored in Batteries to AC (By the Inverter) and then converting back to DC (using Rectifiers) to power our already DC consuming devices...

Who sells 6mm cable here, thanks.

Barezzi:

Get from JUO... I bought 1 from him some months ago.

got the cc from him, he doesnt hv the cable at the moment.

earthrealm:


ok confirmed what i have suspected!.
you know where i can get the VE usb cable locally

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Jamzig1:
Nice...
Of recent I've been wondering, why can't we have a residential/commercial distribution based on DC only.
These days we now have devices which run internally on DC.. LED Bulbs, Fans like this one you posted, USB charging outlets and even Laptop Adapters with Cigarette lighter plugs(12VDC).
These are low power consuming devices.. There are even DC refrigerators, DC Pressing Irons etc.
Using devices directly on DC reduces the conversion losses from converting from the DC generated by the PV and stored in Batteries to AC (By the Inverter) and then converting back to DC (using Rectifiers) to power our already DC consuming devices...

Main loads are heating and cooling loads - You do not want 35 mm2 cables connecting your water heater and air conditioners. ( say 24 or 48 V) at the same time higher DC voltage is equally dangerous ( 500 V DC) and much harder to stepdown economically.

residences started as DC supply in US ( Edison company - now GE) before overtaken by AC ( TESLA - Westinghouse )

For the electrical engineers, Tesla versus Edison( war of Currents) is an interesting piece of history. Edison famously used to kill cats and dogs publically using Ac supply proclaiming AC was dangerous than DC ( of course DC was unearthed)

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30140/acdc-tesla%E2%80%93edison-feud

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Jamzig1:
Nice...
Of recent I've been wondering, why can't we have a residential/commercial distribution based on DC only.
These days we now have devices which run internally on DC.. LED Bulbs, Fans like this one you posted, USB charging outlets and even Laptop Adapters with Cigarette lighter plugs(12VDC).
These are low power consuming devices.. There are even DC refrigerators, DC Pressing Irons etc.
Using devices directly on DC reduces the conversion losses from converting from the DC generated by the PV and stored in Batteries to AC (By the Inverter) and then converting back to DC (using Rectifiers) to power our already DC consuming devices...

We have discussed this before: It sounds good on paper but its not practical. DC are low voltage high current devices which means they are prone to voltage loss when transferring high current over a distance ( Ohms law) You would require your house to be wired with very large cables which are just not practical and also very very expensive (money which could be used in buying more battery/solar panels) also DC only house would force you to stick to 12v system which can be very limited and inefficient when you scale most dc appliances have different voltage ratings, from 6v (for clippers, mobile phones etc) to 18v for laptops and 12v for some of the rest. This means you would still need a dc to dc converter hence the conversion loss you are running from would still hit you. Then you have to consider the cost of maintaining the dc appliances. How many people do you reckon can fix a dc fridge, refrigerator, TV.. think of the parts. and consider the high cost of DC appliance (a dc freezer is almost 50% more expensive than its AC equivalent) when you consider all this you will note that what you are proposing will only work for a limited small scale application (like a small barber shop or small offgrid system less than 500w in size) it makes no sense for a large general house hold use

earthrealm:


got the cc from him, he doesnt hv the cable at the moment.

I happen to own such a cable but I rarely use it. If you want I could lend you at your own transportation cost to and fro from abuja. Although I have to warn you. Victron have upped their game and have tried to halt the blatant copy of their product by Fangpusun. They have introduced a killer firmware which gradually kills your fangpusung controller. I have a dead 45/150 fangtron and even fangpusun are aware of this hence why they stopped selling their VE connector cable to discourage their customers from updating the firmware.

Unless you can get hands on the older victron connect software (those released before August 2016 or that is victron connect version up to 2.3) then tough luck because the new firmwares 2.4 upwards will force you to update your firmware to the killer v1.19 without which u won't be able to use the software (I got a way round this though ring me up back channel).

TLDR: The newer victronconnect software has a trojan horse which silently kills fangupsun clones when you use them. This started with v2.4 of the victronconnect. Unless you can get a previous version of the software on the interwebs, I would advice u don't use it.

bigrovar:


We have discussed this before: It sounds good on paper but its not practical. DC are low voltage high current devices which means they are prone to voltage loss when transferring high current over a distance ( Ohms law) You would require your house to be wired with very large cables which are just not practical and also very very expensive (money which could be used in buying more battery/solar panels) also DC only house would force you to stick to 12v system which can be very limited and inefficient when you scale most dc appliances have different voltage ratings, from 6v (for clippers, mobile phones etc) to 18v for laptops and 12v for some of the rest. This means you would still need a dc to dc converter hence the conversion loss you are running from would still hit you. Then you have to consider the cost of maintaining the dc appliances. How many people do you reckon can fix a dc fridge, refrigerator, TV.. think of the parts. and consider the high cost of DC appliance (a dc freezer is almost 50% more expensive than its AC equivalent) when you consider all this you will note that what you are proposing will only work for a limited small scale application (like a small barber shop or small offgrid system less than 500w in size) it makes no sense for a large general house hold use

pranil:


Main loads are heating and cooling loads - You do not want 35 mm2 cables connecting your water heater and air conditioners. ( say 24 or 48 V) at the same time higher DC voltage is equally dangerous ( 500 V DC) and much harder to stepdown economically.

residences started as DC supply in US ( Edison company - now GE) before overtaken by AC ( TESLA - Westinghouse )

For the electrical engineers, Tesla versus Edison( war of Currents) is an interesting piece of history. Edison famously used to kill cats and dogs publically using Ac supply proclaiming AC was dangerous than DC ( of course DC was unearthed)

http://mentalfloss.com/article/30140/acdc-tesla%E2%80%93edison-feud

That being said.. how about having an Hybrid distribution where both AC and DC are being used... DC to power low wattage and critical loads like LED lights, DC fans and Charging outlets.. CCTV and alarm sensor too which requires constant supply.. then leave the other heavy loads to the AC. Doing this would make you switch on the Inverter only when you need to power these heavy loads. Remember Inverters have self consumption energy which is quite a loss when calculated around the clock.

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Jamzig1:

That being said.. how about having an Hybrid distribution where both AC and DC are being used... DC to power low wattage and critical loads like LED lights, DC fans and Charging outlets.. CCTV and alarm sensor too which requires constant supply.. then leave the other heavy loads to the AC. Doing this would make you switch on the Inverter only when you need to power these heavy loads. Remember Inverters have self consumption energy which is quite a loss when calculated around the clock.

One of the things I learned while cutting my teeth as a sysadmin is the kiss principle. Keep It Simple Stupid. Same thing applies to offgrid solar. What you are proposing is very complicated and frankly is more hassle with a negative net benefit overall. The problem with low wattage device is they are also low voltage, which means even if a 12v leave the battery before it gets to the led bulb its has lost some voltages to resistance so only about 10 or 11v gets to the led. add that to the issues of fusing and breakers and how much of a mess your connection would be. Then there is the issue of using dc to dc converters which will still lead to conversion loss u were running from...

Inverters are not has bad as u are making, there are units which are 95% efficient and would serve just fine. when u compare the amount of money spent and watts lost to resistance. the former is a better option.

Jamzig1:

That being said.. how about having an Hybrid distribution where both AC and DC are being used... DC to power low wattage and critical loads like LED lights, DC fans and Charging outlets.. CCTV and alarm sensor too which requires constant supply.. then leave the other heavy loads to the AC. Doing this would make you switch on the Inverter only when you need to power these heavy loads. Remember Inverters have self consumption energy which is quite a loss when calculated around the clock.

It's simple... You can't wire DC bulbs in a duplex with about 60 light points...

How do you want to run DC supply to 3 TVs in different rooms if you use decoder

Inverter self consumption is negligible...

I have done this practically.. My phone consumes the same power using Normal AC adapter VS DC-DC converter.. so what's the point

bigrovar:


One of the things I learned while cutting my teeth as a sysadmin is the kiss principle. Keep It Simple Stupid. Same thing applies to offgrid solar. What you are proposing is very complicated and frankly is more hassle with a negative net benefit overall. The problem with low wattage device is they are also low voltage, which means even if a 12v leave the battery before it gets to the led bulb its has lost some voltages to resistance so only about 10 or 11v gets to the led. add that to the issues of fusing and breakers and how much of a mess your connection would be. Then there is the issue of using dc to dc converters which will still lead to conversion loss u were running from...

Inverters are not has bad as u are making, there are units which are 95% efficient and would serve just fine. when u compare the amount of money spent and watts lost to resistance. the former is a better option.

Well.. good points there.. As Technology evolves, the hope for distribution might become a standard.
Till then.. sticking to status quo is the thing.
In other parts of the word, development are going on in setting a standard for DC distribution.. you can check out Emerge Alliance and Nextek power

Dam5reey:


It's simple... You can't wire DC bulbs in a duplex with about 60 light points...

How do you want to run DC supply to 3 TVs in different rooms if you use decoder

Inverter self consumption is negligible...

I have done this practically.. My phone consumes the same power using Normal AC adapter VS DC-DC converter.. so what's the point

Lol... Things look confusing at first until someone finally cracks it.. Since you have done it practically.. that proves it

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bigrovar:


I happen to own such a cable but I rarely use it. If you want I could lend you at your own transportation cost to and fro from abuja. Although I have to warn you. Victron have upped their game and have tried to halt the blatant copy of their product by Fangpusun. They have introduced a killer firmware which gradually kills your fangpusung controller. I have a dead 45/150 fangtron and even fangpusun are aware of this hence why they stopped selling their VE connector cable to discourage their customers from updating the firmware.

Unless you can get hands on the older victron connect software (those released before August 2016 or that is victron connect version up to 2.3) then tough luck because the new firmwares 2.4 upwards will force you to update your firmware to the killer v1.19 without which u won't be able to use the software (I got a way round this though ring me up back channel).

TLDR: The newer victronconnect software has a trojan horse which silently kills fangupsun clones when you use them. This started with v2.4 of the victronconnect. Unless you can get a previous version of the software on the interwebs, I would advice u don't use it.

thnks for the offer of the cable, know as you can see from my story below.--- would not be needing it again
do you know if same happens using the bluetooth connection??.

in other news...my respect for epsolar jumped by leaps and bounds today.
so my offgrid villa setup.. was informed that it barely lasts 30mins...and goes off. since last sunday...there was no one i trusted to help me troubleshoot, so i didnt bother doing any serious trouble shooting. just had them check the 60amp ep solar CC and they confirmed it was dead.. no lights blank screen etc.

i assumed the cc had packed up...was wondering what would have killed it....no clues
so i had to buy a 60amp fangpusun cc from JUO and made the trip to villa.
there i observed that negative cable from cc to battery had somehow disconnected from the crimping...thus the cable wasnt connected...and the battery wasnt being charged by my 1500w panels...

the cables from the panels being connected...i feared the worst that the cc would have got burnt, cos morning star and some other cc expressly stated that connecting the solar panels without hooking up the battery will destroy the cc, as the cc wouldnt hv anywhere to divert the solar harvest.
to my pleasant suprise,, i crimped the cable properly and connected it to the battery.....and the cc roared to life!
ran through further checks..and everything was functioning ok,
now i have a redundant 60amp fangpusun cc on my hands +the bluetooth dongle which i have bought on amazon [enroute].
simply amazing!..epsolar mppt cc rocks

my take is that epsolar using the radiator fins for cooling..unlike other makes that use a small fan powered by the battery...the fins were able to keep the cc cool and prevent it from over heating and burning up...unlike the fan models which since the batt cable wasnt connected..the fans would not have been working..thus nothing to cool the cc, and it would overheat and burn.

pls confirm if the bluetooth cable will face the same problem as the usb cable.....lemme know if i will cancel the amazon order asap.
equalization is only necessary for flooded batteries abi?...so anyone running sealed batts would not have this issue

earthrealm:



thnks for the offer of the cable, know as you can see from my story below.--- would not be needing it again
do you know if same happens using the bluetooth connection??.

in other news...my respect for epsolar jumped by leaps and bounds today.
so my offgrid villa setup.. was informed that it barely lasts 30mins...and goes off. since last sunday...there was no one i trusted to help me troubleshoot, so i didnt bother doing any serious trouble shooting. just had them check the 60amp ep solar CC and they confirmed it was dead.. no lights blank screen etc.

i assumed the cc had packed up...was wondering what would have killed it....no clues
so i had to buy a 60amp fangpusun cc from JUO and made the trip to villa.
there i observed that negative cable from cc to battery had somehow disconnected from the crimping...thus the cable wasnt connected...and the battery wasnt being charged by my 1500w panels...

the cables from the panels being connected...i feared the worst that the cc would have got burnt, cos morning star and some other cc expressly stated that connecting the solar panels without hooking up the battery will destroy the cc, as the cc wouldnt hv anywhere to divert the solar harvest.
to my pleasant suprise,, i crimped the cable properly and connected it to the battery.....and the cc roared to life!
ran through further checks..and everything was functioning ok,
now i have a redundant 60amp fangpusun cc on my hands +the bluetooth dongle which i have bought on amazon [enroute].
simply amazing!..epsolar mppt cc rocks

my take is that epsolar using the radiator fins for cooling..unlike other makes that use a small fan powered by the battery...the fins were able to keep the cc cool and prevent it from over heating and burning up...unlike the fan models which since the batt cable wasnt connected..the fans would not have been working..thus nothing to cool the cc, and it would overheat and burn.

pls confirm if the bluetooth cable will face the same problem as the usb cable.....lemme know if i will cancel the amazon order asap.
equalization is only necessary for flooded batteries abi?...so anyone running sealed batts would not have this issue

No doubts , mine has been working for 3 yrs counting and no issues ... Guess you have a penchant for fangpuson tho