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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 7:28am On Oct 22, 2017
EEGA:
Onyekuru does not work as hard as S.Moses?

By that he meant defense duties like tracking back to help the defenders.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 7:30am On Oct 22, 2017
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There are like 5 standard ways to cheat your way through an MRI. That is why they also do drug tests before the MRI in some instances but the simple truth is that it can be cheated.


Moreover who is to say the MRI test was actually carried out? The FIFA agents right? What if they say it was carried out without actually carrying it out? [/quot

I can be a bit pessimistic but you take the cake my guy...Haba!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 7:39am On Oct 22, 2017
[quote author=krattoss post=61653822]bro I think this is solely ur opinion and u are entitled to it..cos I don't agree with u that Moses doesn't deserve a spot in the team..
This is a guy who has been with us in every inch of every match playing huge impact to the team's qualification and u are here downplaying his sacrifices and hardwork with little known onyekuru...

I still maintain that Moses Simon is still ahead of onyekuru..only iwobi can compete with him on that role.. cool
As for ekong. ...I don't know whether it is when he collapse on the field like Sam okwaraji..then u can know his importance and sacrifices. ..

As for musa...I shake my head...cos the guy is playing bet365 with his slot grin[/quot


I am not downplaying his contributions but what are these his sanctimonious sacrifices ? Moses Simon is at best barely average. Yes,he is ahead of Onyekuru for now but for how long.
Look,we have a lot of youngsters coming through the ranks Orji Okonkwo for instance can displace Iheanacho if his stock keep rising and Iheanacho sits on the bench. Super Eagle most always play the best players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 7:42am On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


Ekong has been solid throughout the qualifiers. He has already improved a lot.

Elderson played particularly well against Algeria. I did not like his display against Cameroon.

Simon Moses is a hard worker. Coaches love hard workers. Onyekuru does not work as hard.
Onyekuru whose goals dragged Eupen out of relegation struggles.

The same Onyekuru who drops back into his own half to pick the ball,runs from there on and still scores.

Onyekuru played for Eupen,a club with weak defence, that at times after scoring 2 goals, his team's defence concede three.Yet all this didn't affect his confidence in finishing as joint top scorer.

Onyekuru is now in Anderlecht ,another team with poor defence, yet he keeps on scoring.

Moses Simon's Gent have good defence and Ekoong was even a back-up CB there.This tells you that the Gent team are blessed defensively.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 7:45am On Oct 22, 2017
OMANBALA1:


By that he meant defense duties like tracking back to help the defenders.
Onyekuru also drops back and if instructed to do so by the coach,he will.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:05am On Oct 22, 2017
OMANBALA1:


By that he meant defense duties like tracking back to help the defenders.


He was excellent in the department against PSG.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:30am On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



There are like 5 standard ways to cheat your way through an MRI. That is why they also do drug tests before the MRI in some instances but the simple truth is that it can be cheated.


Moreover who is to say the MRI test was actually carried out? The FIFA agents right? What if they say it was carried out without actually carrying it out?

I know MRI can be cheated organically with intake of lots of fruits, especially oranges. I will really struggle to give credibility the the age of some of these players simply because they "passed MRI scan".

I saw the argument some pages back about people who finished secondary school at 14. I laughed, because most these people who finished at that age had the luxury of attending private schools. It is very easy to transition from primary school to secondary school owned by the same proprietor in the process, you could skip a few classes and finish at 14 or 15.
Anyone who went the full dose of 6years in primary school, 6years in secondary school, cannot graduate from secondary school at 14.

We know these players come from very poor homes. Most of their parents are unskilled workers. I mean these talents are mostly from the ghetto if I must spell it out. How many kids from the ghetto can you really beat your chest and say they finished secondary school at 14?

The sand Castle comments I see here, could pass as pure comedy gold sometimes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:33am On Oct 22, 2017
Rohr knows Simon and Onyekuru better than any of us here.
They have both been in camp together. If Onyekuru is better suited to Rohr's game philosophy I don't think he would drop him for Simon.

Yes Onyekuru is up and coming. He should just keep working hard. The WC is about 8months away. His performance this season will determine a lot for him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:34am On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



There are like 5 standard ways to cheat your way through an MRI. That is why they also do drug tests before the MRI in some instances but the simple truth is that it can be cheated.


Moreover who is to say the MRI test was actually carried out? The FIFA agents right? What if they say it was carried out without actually carrying it out?

Bros you still dey for that Iheanacho's age matter?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:39am On Oct 22, 2017
That's why I put that link there. That's dated back to 2009. Sharareporters said Kayode as well.

tbaba1234:


I remember reading the artcle of Adokiye and his focus was on Fortune Chukwudi. He even had pictures to back it up.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:42am On Oct 22, 2017
I've never believed in "dem say"
goldfish80:


The MRI may not really be 100% accurate. You can still game the system if you know the way.
I heard you can cheat the test if you take high volume of citric acid, maybe 3 weeks to the test test date.

Players of our U17's during camping take lots of citrus to "game the system" so I heard.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:43am On Oct 22, 2017
"Simple truth" without credible source

Mickael2:



There are like 5 standard ways to cheat your way through an MRI. That is why they also do drug tests before the MRI in some instances but the simple truth is that it can be cheated.


Moreover who is to say the MRI test was actually carried out? The FIFA agents right? What if they say it was carried out without actually carrying it out?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 8:44am On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
I've never believed in "dem say"

You don't have to believe. Such allegations should evoke deep thoughts of a curious person.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:47am On Oct 22, 2017
Lord do u know the number of dem say I've Heard in this Nigeria? Most were rubbish.. if no credible source, I throw it out of the window.

goldfish80:


You don't have to believe. Such allegations should evoke deep thoughts of a curious person.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:50am On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


You mean officially right??

This is a very straightforward road to us Nigerians but one we deny doesn't exist in public. That is to say every Nigerian player will lie about his age.

The only players that you can truly without any doubt believe thier ages. Are those that were born in places where there is automatic data capture at birth.

In this regard Nigeria is not. However, I must say that although it cannot be stopped the era where people would shade 7/8 even 11/12 years of thier ages has ended. I believe players at most can shave of no more than 5 years currently.


Now we have players with very untraceable names that makes it impossible to ascertain thier heritage and or ages.

Do I believe Efe Ambrose age, no I do not, do I believe Balogun yes I do. If Balogun was born in Nigeria he would be no more than 23.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:53am On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
Sincerely speaking why is it EPL or no other way for Ambrose?.. All these years he could have moved to France, Germany etc.
It's gonna be hard to make a case for him when the likes of Awaziem are PERFORMING in Ligue 1. He needs to be notching assists scoring or AT MOST as a defender, helping in preventing Hibernian from conceding week in week out, for him to show he is still in reckoning, especially as he is not in the Champions League with Celtic.

From what I can gather he has spent quite a few years in Scotland and would be waiting to get his British passport. That would end all his work permit problems across the EEC. So he cannot go anywhere for now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:57am On Oct 22, 2017
Smh this is really bad bad bad view. Players that have failed the test were not told to take lots of citrus. Muazam and co. Lots of players have always been caught and removed from the team.. Really negative of us. We need to rise above this, And start speaking with facts and not assumptions.



komekn:


This is a very straightforward road to us Nigerians but one we deny doesn't exist in public. That is to say every Nigerian player will lie about his age.

The only players that you can truly without any doubt believe thier ages. Are those that were born in places where there is automatic data capture at birth.

In this regard Nigeria is not. However, I must say that although it cannot be stopped the era where people would shade 7/8 even 11/12 years of thier ages has ended. I believe players at most can shave of no more than 5 years currently.


Now we have players with very untraceable names that makes it impossible to ascertain thier heritage and or ages.

Do I believe Efe Ambrose age, no I do not, do I believe Balogun yes I do. If Balogun was born in Nigeria he would be no more than 23.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:59am On Oct 22, 2017
Hahahaha. Our mentality unbelievable.
These players waste thier careers in search of citizenship of that whack country.


komekn:

From what I can gather he has spent quite a few years in Scotland and would be waiting to get his British passport. That would end all his work permit problems across the EEC. So he cannot go anywhere for now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:01am On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


I remember reading the artcle of Adokiye and his focus was on Fortune Chukwudi. He even had pictures to back it up.

He also talked about Kayode and made quite an expose on him as well. But Chukwudi was the fall guy because even Omeruo had huge question marks at the time.

Let's not forget that our young Ndidi failed his MRI scan. But let's leave this matter it's just too big a can of worms that we really don't need to open.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mumemma: 9:02am On Oct 22, 2017
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:08am On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
Lord do u know the number of dem say I've Heard in this Nigeria? Most were rubbish.. if no credible source, I throw it out of the window.

Not in this case. We are discussing pure scientific theory here. Not until you have made your research on the theory of the efficacy of using citrus to cheat MRI age detection scan.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:09am On Oct 22, 2017
Sir Icon4s is right as regards the players that should start against Argentina. Experiments and testing of fringe players should be done against Algeria, while the first starting xi should be used to prosecute the game against Argentina. the coach of Argentina have released list with the likes of Messi, Aguero, Di Maria and others to face the S.E and it wouldn't be fair to just use them as experiments by capping our bench warmers against them. It will not be seen on a good note which can also deter the likes of Germany from organising friendlies with Nigeria. No highly rated team will want to be used as experiments for testing bench warmers. Not too long ago, this was reported to what made Egypt to pull out on a friendly with Nigeria when they perceived that Nigeria was planning to parade a “weaker” team against them. The Argentines are not just going to play the game for the fun of it, they want to see how their team can perform against this good Nigerian side.

As for the S.E, playing one of the rated favorites should enable the team to know the areas to improve on, and that may not be possible when playing with fringe players. The team's strongest starting xi should be featured from start to finish if possible, lets see what they will look like in the encounter. Who knows, Nigeria might just beat them and that will draw recognitions from other highly rated teams and put Nigeria in a better position to get more grade A friendlies.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:25am On Oct 22, 2017
blueto:
Sir Icon4s is right as regards the players that should start against Argentina. Experiments and testing of fringe players should be done against Algeria, while the first starting xi should be used to prosecute the game against Argentina. the coach of Argentina have released list with the likes of Messi, Aguero, Di Maria and others to face the S.E and it wouldn't be fair to just use them as experiments by capping our bench warmers against them. It will not be seen on a good note which can also deter the likes of Germany from organising friendlies with Nigeria. No highly rated team will want to be used as experiments for testing bench warmers. Not too long ago, this was reported to what made Egypt to pull out on a friendly with Nigeria when they perceived that Nigeria was planning to parade a “weaker” team against them. The Argentines are not just going to play the game for the fun of it, they want to see how their team can perform against this good Nigerian side.

As for the S.E, playing one of the rated favorites should enable the team to know the areas to improve on, and that may not be possible when playing with fringe players. The team's strongest starting xi should be featured from start to finish if possible, lets see what they will look like in the encounter. Who knows, Nigeria might just beat them and that will draw recognitions from other highly rated teams and put Nigeria in a better position to get more grade A friendlies.

Thank you for this post my brother. You sabi every.

may I also add that even against Algeria we should not make more than 2 or 3 changes from the normal starting 11. The team is taking shape already and we need to sustain the momentum and build on it.

One of the players I would love to see is Aina starting at LB. Let us see if the food he will cook would be better than that of Echiejile. I would also want to see Iheanacho starting. Let's give him another chance to prove his worth. Thirdly, let's rest Onazi and make Mikel play from CM so Iwobi would play the AM role, flanked by the two Moseses. Let's see how that midfield combo would play out.
This setup should aim at beating Algeria.

The outcome of the experiment would now determine how we'll line up against Argentina.

Rohr should aim at going into the WC unbeaten from qualifiers and friendlies. That will do a lot of good to our mental strength.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:07am On Oct 22, 2017
Icon4s:


Thank you for this post my brother. You sabi every.

may I also add that even against Algeria we should not make more than 2 or 3 changes from the normal starting 11. The team is taking shape already and we need to sustain the momentum and build on it.

One of the players I would love to see is Aina starting at LB. Let us see if the food he will cook would be better than that of Echiejile. I would also want to see Iheanacho starting. Let's give him another chance to prove his worth. Thirdly, let's rest Onazi and make Mikel play from CM so Iwobi would play the AM role, flanked by the two Moseses. Let's see how that midfield combo would play out.
This setup should aim at beating Algeria.

The outcome of the experiment would now determine how we'll line up against Argentina.

Rohr should aim at going into the WC unbeaten from qualifiers and friendlies. That will do a lot of good to our mental strength.

I agree with us having little room for experiments in the Algeria game. The game would have been a good opportunity to test players with potentials of breaking into the Super Eagles but with the Argentine game on the horizon, we need to begin our World Cup preparation with the Algerian game, some how look at it more like a Grade A friendly. We field our strongest line-up in preparation for the Argentine game.

I feel this is our most balanced and strongest line-up.



I pick Ndidi over Onazi because I do not think Onazi can displace Ndidi in a club like Leicester City. Mikel Obi playing a deeper role will give us more defensive balance and also give him more time on the ball to dictate play.

Iwobi in AMF will orchestrate the play of the attackers with his incisive passes and with his new dimension in his work rate can help support the defence when we are under pressure.

The success of this set-up against Algeria will determine us using it against the Argentines.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:12am On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
Smh this is really bad bad bad view. Players that have failed the test were not told to take lots of citrus. Muazam and co. Lots of players have always been caught and removed from the team.. Really negative of us. We need to rise above this, And start speaking with facts and not assumptions.



as in people just say anything that comes into their head just to have a say, nothing person no go hear for nairaland, Nigeria players now take citrus fruit to cheat MRI, maybe ndidi and muazam forgot to take the complete dose cheesy hogwash

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:16am On Oct 22, 2017
OMANBALA1:


By that he meant defense duties like tracking back to help the defenders.
wait until onyekuru start playing for juventus or ATL. Mardrid before you know he's better than Moses

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:18am On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



There are like 5 standard ways to cheat your way through an MRI. That is why they also do drug tests before the MRI in some instances but the simple truth is that it can be cheated.


Moreover who is to say the MRI test was actually carried out? The FIFA agents right? What if they say it was carried out without actually carrying it out?

The scans are represented by each player and well monitored and reported. The FIFA agents are there to maintain integrity. You can not just report was done when none was done. The scans are also collected and sent for cataloging. It is serious business for FIFA.

Also, the people scanning it have their integrity to maintain which is more important than the careers of some teenagers looking for a way to make it in life through football.

Beating wrist scan is impossible because it is showing the bone structure. You can even study development of the bone from the structure. It is a science. Not some joke test.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:21am On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


I agree with us having little room for experiments in the Algeria game. The game would have been a good opportunity to test players with potentials of breaking into the Super Eagles but with the Argentine game on the horizon, we need to begin our World Cup preparation with the Algerian game, some how look at it more like a Grade A friendly. We field our strongest line-up in preparation for the Argentine game.

I feel this is our most balanced and strongest line-up.



I pick Ndidi over Onazi because I do not think Onazi can displace Ndidi in a club like Leicester City. Mikel Obi playing a deeper role will give us more defensive balance and also give him more time on the ball to dictate play.

Iwobi in AMF will orchestrate the play of the attackers with his incisive passes and with his new dimension in his work rate can help support the defence when we are under pressure.

The success of this set-up against Algeria will determine us using it against the Argentines.

When was the last time you and I agreed on a subject matter?

E don teh o.

We test it against Algeria. If it works we use it against Argentina.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:23am On Oct 22, 2017
Icon4s:


Thank you for this post my brother. You sabi every.

may I also add that even against Algeria we should not make more than 2 or 3 changes from the normal starting 11. The team is taking shape already and we need to sustain the momentum and build on it.

One of the players I would love to see is Aina starting at LB. Let us see if the food he will cook would be better than that of Echiejile. I would also want to see Iheanacho starting. Let's give him another chance to prove his worth. Thirdly, let's rest Onazi and make Mikel play from CM so Iwobi would play the AM role, flanked by the two Moseses. Let's see how that midfield combo would play out.
This setup should aim at beating Algeria.

The outcome of the experiment would now determine how we'll line up against Argentina.

Rohr should aim at going into the WC unbeaten from qualifiers and friendlies. That will do a lot of good to our mental strength.
Top notch suggestions sir.

Yes, Aina should be starting in that game since he didn't play with a considerable amount of time to assess him in that department against Zambia, but I noticed he was better going forward as he combined well with Moses anyway.

As regards Iheanacho, it seems the roles I have always wanted him to play will not be possible for him. Mikel and Iwobi seems to be best suited for the AM role while it seems Rohr does not fancy the SS system, so I will say he is stuck with the CF role which to me may not be his best. But like you said, he should be given another chance in that role and I hope that will come to play.

Iwobi did quite well against Senegal in the AM role. Yes he struggled against the physical side, but he created some clear-cut chances for Nacho. And now, he is expected to do better with Mikel playing with him as CM. A combination of Ndidi-Mikel-Iwobi midfield will give room for wingers like V.Moses, S.Moses and Onyekuru to thrive better on the wings, but I'm also considering Onyekuru to start in the game against Algeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:23am On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:



There are like 5 standard ways to cheat your way through an MRI. That is why they also do drug tests before the MRI in some instances but the simple truth is that it can be cheated.


Moreover who is to say the MRI test was actually carried out? The FIFA agents right? What if they say it was carried out without actually carrying it out?

There is a cylindrical plate in the wrist of U17 players. How The hell will citrus fruits put that plate when it is not there? Na wa.

I believe some of our players who failed it were within the age bracket but due to the strictness of the scan, where a player younger can fail but a player older can not pass to a high degree accuracy, the young ones who failed might be within the age bracket.

The only reason Maduabuchi Obinwa's case raised dust was because he was American born. If he was Nigerian, no one will care.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:24am On Oct 22, 2017
Icon4s:


When was the last time you and I agreed on a subject matter?

E don teh o.

We test it against Algeria. If it works we use it against Argentina.

It has been too long to remember.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:29am On Oct 22, 2017
FIFA rules regarding the U17 World Cup is simple. If you do not have wrist plates in your arm, you can not play in the competition, even if you are U17. So you can not lick orange and lime to generate wrist plates.

So, those who passed are really young players due to the strictness of the process.

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