How won't Martial look like bench players when we are set up to contain rather than have a go at teams that square up against us...Please I'd like folks here to sit down and watch our game little emphasis on the very small details we take for granted for instance, when Martial is on the ball running at the defenders, you'd find Young still in our half on most occasions or not making the right run to draw defenders away from Martial, also, you have a technical and physically limited Lingard saddled with the responsibility of linking the midfield and attack and combining with the wingers and you expect swashbuckling football? You are indeed in wonderland...
And who uses two holding midfielders against a team like Huddersfield? Yes Herrera and Matic are both playing as holding midfielders and it's down to Mou to instruct Herrera to bump forward or find other solutions...

chrisley024:
Lingard with his headless chicken movement while Miki goes into ghost mode or Mata falling like he was under anointing. Depends on which one chooses

headless chicken movement for me anyday.
lingard is a bit of whipping boy,and rightly so,but he do wetin him sabi do yesterday.

at this point am ready to do away with looking for some creative behind the striker type.
it is time to try the two striker alternative.
maybe play rashidi + lukaku for front.

patrickmuf:
How won't Martial look like bench players when we are set up to contain rather than have a go at teams that square up against us...Please I'd like folks here to sit down and watch our game little emphasis on the very small details we take for granted for instance, when Martial is on the ball running at the defenders, you'd find Young still in our half on most occasions or not making the right run to draw defenders away from Martial, also, you have a technical and physically limited Lingard saddled with the responsibility of linking the midfield and attack and combining with the wingers and you expect swashbuckling football? You are indeed in wonderland...
And who uses two holding midfielders against a team like Huddersfield? Yes Herrera and Matic are both playing as holding midfielders and it's down to Mou to instruct Herrera to bump forward or find other solutions...

I owe you a crate of whatever dafuq you drink. Like someone would say here 'You know ball'.
I can't understand how someone would even try to blame Martial here. Did we expect him to always magically get past 3 to 4 Huddersfield players all the time without help?
I wrote it here yesterday that Muo is still to understand his players abilities and how to use them properly.
This is life! You get what you put in.

SIRcumalot:

yet rashidi still finds a way to thrive amidst all this formation and tactics change.
martial should just be coming from the bench to attack tired legs, to dey think say this dude go morph into some kind star isn't good for my health.

Rashford has not been better than Martial except that Mou and the press sings his praises more often than not, as Sailor pointed out, against CSKA moscow, Martial played a great game but Mou only attributed it to the nature of the game rather than his brilliance but if it was Rashford, they'd praise him to high heavens...We might loose Martial to prolly Barca in the near future if Mou keeps disrespecting him and asking him to play as LB in most occasions...A combination of Martial - Lukaku - Rashford should suffice against Spurs but Mou is damn too cautious in his approach and funny enough for our next two EPL games, we just have to get ready for ultra defensive approach, it's Spurs then Chelsea...

SIRcumalot:

headless chicken movement for me anyday.
lingard is a bit of whipping boy,and rightly so,but he do wetin him sabi

The difference between Mhki and Mr braindead is that with all his nonsense, there is always a high possibility of Mhki coming up with an assist even when he is having a horrible game. Pls say same for Mr braindead.

4 games into the season Mkhitaryan Assist King..... Baba never get assist for 5 straight games now... Form is temporary, Fraud is permanent

SIRcumalot:

headless chicken movement for me anyday.
lingard is a bit of whipping boy,and rightly so,but he do wetin him sabi do yesterday.

at this point am ready to do away with looking for some creative behind the striker type.
it is time to try the two striker alternative.
maybe play rashidi + lukaku for front.

Run into defenders, pass the ball to Huddersfield players and fall like he is under some sort of T. B. Joshua anointing abi? Of what use is your pace and movement when you can't go past players or find yourself in promising positions...

patrickmuf:
How won't Martial look like bench players when we are set up to contain rather than have a go at teams that square up against us...Please I'd like folks here to sit down and watch our game little emphasis on the very small details we take for granted for instance, when Martial is on the ball running at the defenders, you'd find Young still in our half on most occasions or not making the right run to draw defenders away from Martial, also, you have a technical and physically limited Lingard saddled with the responsibility of linking the midfield and attack and combining with the wingers and you expect swashbuckling football? You are indeed in wonderland...
And who uses two holding midfielders against a team like Huddersfield? Yes Herrera and Matic are both playing as holding midfielders and it's down to Mou to instruct Herrera to bump forward or find other solutions...

i don't expect swashbuckling football,Jose na our manager.
i expect my player to at least do the minimum to win
now i understand,if this is the 1st or 2nd season that we're into this martial experience this is the third year bro ?
for how long is Martial failing going to be as a result of other people not making runs or,lingard,or playing two holding midfielders.
Martial is a fan favorite,so objectivity is often absent in criticizing players like that.
He is very effective from the bench,let him go back.

patrickmuf:
Run into defenders, pass the ball to Huddersfield players and fall like he is under some sort of T. B. Joshua anointing abi? Of what use is your pace and movement when you can't go past players or find yourself in promising positions...

Asin eh! I still don't understand how people watch football. Shocking!

Martial is a player that thrives when the team is giving lots of freedom to play. You can't always set up your team to defend and expect the dude to perform magic.

We shall understand how good that guy is when we lose him......soon enough.

SIRcumalot:

i don't expect swashbuckling football,Jose na our manager.
i expect my player to at least do the minimum to win
now i understand,if this is the 1st or 2nd season that we're into this martial experience this is the third year bro ?
for how long is Martial failing going to be as a result of other people not making runs or,lingard,or playing two holding midfielders.
Martial is a fan favorite,so objectivity is often absent in criticizing players like that.
He is very effective from the bench,let him go back.

If Fergie was coach, he'd have taken off Lingard and one of Herrera or Matic and brought in Rashford and Mhkitaryan...Martial for all his poor play has that X-factor that can win you a game in a matter of seconds and that's why top Coaches don't take such players out and more often than not, play to their strength.

patrickmuf:
How won't Martial look like bench players when we are set up to contain rather than have a go at teams that square up against us...Please I'd like folks here to sit down and watch our game little emphasis on the very small details we take for granted for instance, when Martial is on the ball running at the defenders, you'd find Young still in our half on most occasions or not making the right run to draw defenders away from Martial, also, you have a technical and physically limited Lingard saddled with the responsibility of linking the midfield and attack and combining with the wingers and you expect swashbuckling football? You are indeed in wonderland...
And who uses two holding midfielders against a team like Huddersfield? Yes Herrera and Matic are both playing as holding midfielders and it's down to Mou to instruct Herrera to bump forward or find other solutions...

Exactly, I was seeing like 4 players at that left flank. He's also to blame; his delay when he gets the ball increases the number of players marking him unlike Rashford that starts running immediately and he should move with the ball into the midfield when the flank is clogged problem is the LB not joining in attack. Even Rashford that came in didn't create anything. Another problem is everyone knows our attack is through that left, there was more space on the right yesterday, their player just needed to stay infront of Valencia and there was space between the player and their LB but unfortunately we don't use a right winger

patrickmuf:
Run into defenders, pass the ball to Huddersfield players and fall like he is under some sort of T. B. Joshua anointing abi? Of what use is your pace and movement when you can't go past players or find yourself in promising positions...

i'll take that over the passivity i got from Mata,martial and micki yesterday where was their brillance ?
i never expect much from lingard but i know he go try make something,most times he fails but he go sha try.

chrisley024:
Exactly, I was seeing like 4 players at that left flank. He's also to blame; his delay when he gets the ball increases the number of players marking him unlike Rashford that starts running immediately and he should move with the ball into the midfield when the flank is clogged problem is the LB not joining in attack. Even Rashford that came in didn't create anything. Another problem is everyone knows our attack is through that left, there was more space on the right yesterday, their player just needed to stay infront of Valencia and there was space between the player and their LB.

Now tell me why folks here shouldn't blame Mou, on most occasions, I saw Mata drifting inside to over crowd the middle and the right wing was unmanned and we have a coach who didn't notice it or did nothing to correct it...Before the game when Oasis posted the lineup, folks here were already rejoicing at the opportunity to see Mata behind Lukaku but I beckoned on them to hold their breathe cos I suspected Mou will play Lingard through the middle and it happened, it's the same shit he did against Pool where the personnel suggested 3-5-2 but Mou opted for something else...
At Atletico Madrid, Simeone a defensive minded coach like Mou is trying to tweak his formation to give his team a chance whilst attacking cos of the problems they encounter when they come up against defensive minded teams, Mou should also work on trying to make us better attacking wise, we already understand the concept of park the bus...

slimghost:



I wholeheartedly disagree. Better player in what sense please? Just mention one notable thing he did right for the whole 90 minutes. Lukaku and Rashford were way way better then the headless chicken yesterday.
Let's not confuse lots of movememt with effectiveness. Ikedia had lots of movements too.

We all know Lingard is a squad player but you can't crucify him for yesterday's loss. The whole midfield lacked creativity and were slow in bringing the ball out of the defense.

Martial was below par, Mata was a shade of his old self, Herrera was the new Cleverly and Matic had too much to do. Singling out Lingard for the loss is unfair.

It's okay to lash out but you're forming this opinion based on his past performances. He contributed morr in yesterday's game than Mkhi had in the past 2 or 4 matches. He linked attack with defense, didn't lose the ball sheepishly and got into good positions but couldn't make any outstanding impact.

He's got his limits but Mkhi who should be there has served us sh*t for weeks. Should we keep putting up with his sh*t and not try something else?

Coupled with our ineptitude Huddersfield didn't make things easy. They parked the train and made it extremely hard for us to penetrate their defense. Lukaku didn't get the service he yearned for and had to singlehandedly create the one goal we had.

The whole team is to blame for the loss. We lacked that feeling and mentality to want to win.

The goals came from two individual mistakes. If you're looking for scapegoats you can pick those two or even Mourinho himself. Going gung-ho on Lingard is just not right.

Lingard is another low key fraud,what shocked me most is when I remember the fool is on £100 a week.
I don't think any sane human being will pick lingard ahead of mata martial.
Stupid player like lingard disgust me like shit.

SIRcumalot:

i'll take that over the passivity i got from Mata,martial and micki yesterday where was their brillance ?
i never expect much from lingard but i know he go try make something,most times he fails but he go sha try.

Sometimes, having a headless chicken like Lingard beside you is enough to make you look bad, I wish Ibra had sent him to early retirement with this kick...

patrickmuf:
If Fergie was coach, he'd have taken off Lingard and one of Herrera or Matic and brought in Rashford and Mhkitaryan...Martial for all his poor play has that X-factor that can win you a game in a matter of seconds and that's why top Coaches don't take such players out and more often than not, play to their strength.

lingard don win us some important games too.
that won't be the reason i would keep him in a match or take him away though.

Leyqute:


We all know Lingard is a squad player but you can't crucify him for yesterday's loss. The whole midfield lacked creativity and were slow in bringing the ball out of the defense.

Martial was below par, Mata was a shade of his old self, Herrera was the new Cleverly and Matic had too much to do. Singling out Lingard for the loss is unfair.

It's okay to lash out but you're forming this opinion based on his past performances. He contributed morr in yesterday's game than Mkhi had in the past 2 or 4 matches. He linked attack with defense, didn't lose the ball sheepishly and got into good positions but couldn't make any outstanding impact.

He's got his limits but Mkhi who should be there has served us sh*t for weeks. Should we keep putting up with his sh*t and not try something else?

Coupled with our ineptitude Huddersfield didn't make things easy. They parked the train and made it extremely hard for us to penetrate their defense. Lukaku didn't get the service he yearned for and had to singlehandedly create the one goal we had.

The whole team is to blame for the loss. We lacked that feeling and mentality to want to win.

The goals came from two individual mistakes. If you're looking for scapegoats you can pick those two or even Mourinho himself. Going gung-ho on Lingard is just not right.

Things Lingard did not do is what you listed...

Leyqute:


We all know Lingard is a squad player but you can't crucify him for yesterday's loss. The whole midfield lacked creativity and were slow in bringing the ball out of the defense.

Martial was below par, Mata was a shade of his old self, Herrera was the new Cleverly and Matic had too much to do. Singling out Lingard for the loss is unfair.

It's okay to lash out but you're forming this opinion based on his past performances. He contributed morr in yesterday's game than Mkhi had in the past 2 or 4 matches. He linked attack with defense, didn't lose the ball sheepishly and got into good positions but couldn't make any outstanding impact.

He's got his limits but Mkhi who should be there has served us sh*t for weeks. Should we keep putting up with his sh*t and not try something else?

Coupled with our ineptitude Huddersfield didn't make things easy. They parked the train and made it extremely hard for us to penetrate their defense. Lukaku didn't get the service he yearned for and had to singlehandedly create the one goal we had.

The whole team is to blame for the loss. We lacked that feeling and mentality to want to win.

The goals came from two individual mistakes. If you're looking for scapegoats you can pick those two or even Mourinho himself. Going gung-ho on Lingard is just not right.

I really lost it when someone wrote that he had a good game yesterday. You wrote that he didn't lose the ball sheepishly? If i prove you wrong, what will you do?
Get the point here first, Mr braindead was choosen to play in that position for certain purpose but he ended up being USELESS in that position. I am not here to compare players but i'd take an off-form Mhki and a drink Mata over this Plus Ikedia wearing our number 14 shirt.

I really think we saw different games yesterday for you to even suggest he had a good game yesterday. He was definitely not our worst player but a good game? lol. you got jokes man.

I'm ain't a Kind that blame the Manager but I need to do it this Morning coz JM is really getting it wrong. Must United always play 4-2-3-1 in EPL Matches?! Tactically it's wrong for the Players in the Squad at the Moment.

3 - 5 - 2 Formation would have done the Job at H'Field. Martial ain't a type that defence or track back, he's a type that loves Ball on his Feet and does wonder with it.

JM should try Martial - Lukaku Combo for God's sake! Martial enjoys linking well with a closed Partner, he enjoys making 1 - 2 Passes, opening for a Chance or creating one.

I really can't blame him for the Loss. And to be candid, JM Tactic is questionable sometimes. He's kinda too rigid and stubborn. Seriously I wouldn't moan or cry if he doesn't extend his Contract.

I don't wanna compare him to another Manager, but obviously Pep is ahead of him tactically. Give this same Set of Players to Pep, and you gonna see the best of Martial, Mata and Mkhitaryan - cos these are technically gifted Players in the Squad.

SailorXY:
you think say na everybody sabi watch match? many just dey stare @ TV to look for scapegoats & talk about money wey no be their business just in case. since that guy got injured I can count how many clear-cut chances we've created on one foot.

It's so obvious that pogba is the pillar of this team. Make he do come back Abeg.

patrickmuf:
Sometimes, having a headless chicken like Lingard beside you is enough to make you look bad, I wish Ibra had sent him to early retirement with this kick...

a chicken can only do like a chicken bro.
if micki wasn't skating by on bogus goals and assist and everybody wey actually sabi pass lingard actually show say them better.
lingard go sit for that bench and smile for the cameras. he knows his role.

Oasis007:
I'm ain't a Kind that blame the Manager but I need to do it this Morning coz JM is really getting it wrong. Must United always play 4-2-3-1 in EPL Matches?! Tactically it's wrong for the Players in the Squad at the Moment.

3 - 5 - 2 Formation would have done the Job at H'Field. Martial ain't a type that defence or track back, he's a type that loves Ball on his Feet and does wonder with it.

JM should try Martial - Lukaku Combo for God's sake! Martial enjoys linking well with a closed Partner, he enjoys making 1 - 2 Passes, opening for a Chance or creating one.

I really can't blame him for the Loss. And to be candid, JM Tactic is questionable sometimes. He's kinda too rigid and stubborn. Seriously I wouldn't moan or cry if he doesn't extend his Contract.

I don't wanna compare him to another Manager, but obviously Pep is ahead of him tactically. Give this same Set of Players to Pep, and you gonna see the best of Martial, Mata and Mkhitaryan - cos these are technically gifted Players in the Squad.

God bless you bro.
I believe Muo hates technically gifted players. Explains why he keeps muddling evrything up. Setting up his team to limit his players abilities and performance.

Oasis007:
I'm ain't a Kind that blame the Manager but I need to do it this Morning coz JM is really getting it wrong. Must United always play 4-2-3-1 in EPL Matches?! Tactically it's wrong for the Players in the Squad at the Moment.

3 - 5 - 2 Formation would have done the Job at H'Field. Martial ain't a type that defence or track back, he's a type that loves Ball on his Feet and does wonder with it.

JM should try Martial - Lukaku Combo for God's sake! Martial enjoys linking well with a closed Partner, he enjoys making 1 - 2 Passes, opening for a Chance or creating one.

I really can't blame him for the Loss. And to be candid, JM Tactic is questionable sometimes. He's kinda too rigid and stubborn. Seriously I wouldn't moan or cry if he doesn't extend his Contract.

I don't wanna compare him to another Manager, but obviously Pep is ahead of him tactically. Give this same Set of Players to Pep, and you gonna see the best of Martial, Mata and Mkhitaryan - cos these are technically gifted Players in the Squad.

God bless you, Pep will do wonders with Mhkitaryan, Mata, Martial and Herrera, short intricate passes...

SIRcumalot:

a chicken can only do like a chicken bro.
if micki wasn't skating by on bogus goals and assist and everybody wey actually sabi pass lingard actually show say them better.
lingard go sit for that bench and smile for the cameras. he knows his role.

Lingard is on 100k, tells you how much Mou and the board rates him...

Dongorgon5:
Lingard is another low key fraud,what shocked me most is when I remember the fool is on £100 a week.
I don't think any sane human being will pick lingard ahead of mata martial.
Stupid player like lingard disgust me like shit.

Lwkmd! The idiot nearly gave me bad eyesight yesterday.

The way he collects the ball and speeds off will have you like 'watch this'.....and then the headless chicken bumps into a player or passes to an opponent with his eyes wide open.

Dongorgon5:
Lingard is another low key fraud,what shocked me most is when I remember the fool is on £100 a week.
I don't think any sane human being will pick lingard ahead of mata martial.
Stupid player like lingard disgust me like shit.

Hehehe he runs and runs even without end product, he is a Mou kind of player...Bebe shits on him...

slimghost:



I really lost it when someone wrote that he had a good game yesterday. You wrote that he didn't lose the ball sheepishly? If i prove you wrong, what will you do?
Get the point here first, Mr braindead was choosen to play in that position for certain purpose but he ended up being USELESS in that position. I am not here to compare players but i'd take an off-form Mhki and a drink Mata over this Plus Ikedia wearing our number 14 shirt.

I really think we saw different games yesterday for you to even suggest he had a good game yesterday. He was definitely not our worst player but a good game? lol. you got jokes man.

I'm not saying the dude was exceptional but he did better than Mkhi has done for the past 2 weeks. Even if you're pained about the loss you should see the difference.

I agree we saw different games. I saw Lingard give what he could serve anf you watched a game via a biased mind.

How can you even suggest Mkhi start again after all the crap he's been serving?! Did you even watch the games against Benfica and Liverpool??!! I guess not.

So you'd prefer to keep trying something that didn't work over and over again and not even think about trying something else?!!! Who does that!?!

For you to prefer to start this Mkhi over Lingard means you haven't really seen him for the past 14 days. You probably watched the game through livescore and YouTube highlights.

I won't blame Mou for starting Lingard ahead of Mkhi yesterday. And he did put up a better display than Mkhi had done of recent.

If you believe otherwise that is your pot of garri. You're the joker here and I'm done discussing this sh*t with you

patrickmuf:
God bless you, Pep will do wonders with Mhkitaryan, Mata, Martial and Herrera, short intricate passes...

slimghost:


God bless you bro.
I believe Muo hates technically gifted players. Explains why he keeps muddling evrything up. Setting up his team to limit his players abilities and performance.

Honestly these Players ain't the Problem but Jose Mourinho. If he can give Lindelof a Chance while shutting out Shaw from the Team?!

Can someone tell me what Young offered as a LB yesterday?! He couldn't make a quick, one time, accurate Cross with his left Foot. He had to cut it to his right Foot, dancing Galala before whipping aimlessly into the Box.

Shaw has played few Matches with the Reserve, he has regained his Fitness, hence should have been tested against H'Field. Shaw links well with his Winger.

Leyqute:


I'm not saying the dude was exceptional but he did better than Mkhi has done for the past 2 weeks. Even if you're pained about the loss you should see the difference.

I agree we saw different games. I saw Lingard give what he could serve anf you watched a game via a biased mind.

How can you even suggest Mkhi start again after all the crap he's been serving?! Did you even watch the games against Benfica and Liverpool??!! I guess not.

So you'd prefer to keep trying something that didn't work over and over again and not even think about trying something else?!!! Who does that!?!

For you to prefer to start this Mkhi over Lingard means you haven't really seen him for the past 14 days. You probably watched the game through livescore and YouTube highlights.

I won't blame Mou for starting Lingard ahead of Mkhi yesterday. And he did put up a better display than Mkhi had done of recent.

If you believe otherwise that is your pot of garri. You're the joker here and I'm done discussing this sh*t with you

You no know ball! it's official now! I won't discuss shit with you again. Only a clown would prefer this Lingard over Mhki.....even a dead Mhki in that position.

joeace2020:


Westbrom, Brighton, bournemouth, newcastle, burnley...these are very beatable teams. I was pointing out how we say things you just said about Liverpool. Is that not the arrogance we are still talking about?

What of Huddersfield?