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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
Joebie:
If it's truly a scientific theory don't run around with it as if it has been proven.
And do you have evidence that the boys have been taking lots of citrus before the tests? lol.





Don't make jest of things you're not sure of. There have been cases in the past where MRI results vary at different time of testing.
Anyway, there are things not meant to be discussed on public forum. But as an intelligent person which I presume you are, don't be quick to dismiss any theory no matter how allien it sounds at first.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:40pm On Oct 22, 2017
Please provide me any credible source showing it is actually a scientific theory. Take your time in this research.


goldfish80:


Don't make jest of things you're not sure of. There have been cases in the past where MRI results vary at different time of testing.
Anyway, there are things not meant to be discussed on public forum. But as an intelligent person which I presume you are, don't be quick to dismiss any theory no matter how allien it sounds at first.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:46pm On Oct 22, 2017
goldfish80:


Don't make jest of things you're not sure of. There have been cases in the past where MRI results vary at different time of testing.
Anyway, there are things not meant to be discussed on public forum. But as an intelligent person which I presume you are, don't be quick to dismiss any theory no matter how allien it sounds at first.

I tried googling that theory, can't find any evidence of citrus on MRI tests.

I do find it strange because MRI simply looks at the fusion of growth plates and is considered 99% accurate.

In poor countries, due to poor nutrition some plates might fuse a little later but it is usually not more than 2 years.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 1:47pm On Oct 22, 2017
edi287:
I think Onyekuru will eventually be converted to a 9. We should try him out at that position during one of the friendlies. It might turn out to be an internal solution to our striking issue atm

I think he is better as a left winger or a false 9. But he needs to be drilled in the art of unselfish play. Shikena!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:59pm On Oct 22, 2017
Exclusive – Portuguese Club Snap Up Captain Of 2016 U17 & Three Other Nigerian Teens

October 22, 201702

‎Portuguese third division side Vizela has concluded the transfer of four highly rated Nigerian teens including Abduljabbar Sani who captained the Nigeria U17 team of 2016.

Highly rated right full back Isah Musa, and two other namely Emmanuel Kuku and Zakari Yaro both forwards were also snapped up by the team, Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal.

Already the quartet have resumed training with the Portuguese side who are currently ‎top of the Campeonato de Portugal, Group A table with 14 points after six games.

The club will be hoping the quartet help boost their chances of gaining promotion to the second division next season owing to their fine start to the season as they are yet to lose a game this current season.

” Vizela is a very ambitious club, so we took them there to help them get use to European football as well as the demands, all of them are yet to play any level of football so Vizela is a very good start for them”, Babawo Mohammed the agent of the quartet told

” They were among the boys picked from our last scouting tournament in Keffi, Nasarawa State. So we hope they progress as expected at Vizela. They have the talent to succeed no doubt”, he concluded.

Daniel Martins
-- OwnGoalNigeria

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:01pm On Oct 22, 2017
Icon4s:


Thank you for this post my brother. You sabi every.

may I also add that even against Algeria we should not make more than 2 or 3 changes from the normal starting 11. The team is taking shape already and we need to sustain the momentum and build on it.

One of the players I would love to see is Aina starting at LB. Let us see if the food he will cook would be better than that of Echiejile. I would also want to see Iheanacho starting. Let's give him another chance to prove his worth. Thirdly, let's rest Onazi and make Mikel play from CM so Iwobi would play the AM role, flanked by the two Moseses. Let's see how that midfield combo would play out.
This setup should aim at beating Algeria.

The outcome of the experiment would now determine how we'll line up against Argentina.

Rohr should aim at going into the WC unbeaten from qualifiers and friendlies. That will do a lot of good to our mental strength.
My belle sweet me when you put Iwobi in the AM position. Iwobi, the two Moseses and any of Ighalo or Iheanacho would be a handful. I'd prefer for Onyekuru to battle with S. Moses for the right wing forward.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:01pm On Oct 22, 2017
Umar Sadiq starts versus his Parent club Roma...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:01pm On Oct 22, 2017
kennysville:


I think he is better as a left winger or a false 9. But he needs to be drilled in the art of unselfish play. Shikena!
yea, I don't subscribe to onyekuru playing the top 9 role, I see him like a Hazard kinda player, he can cut in from the left very easily to shoot or pass to the top striker.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:03pm On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


I tried googling that theory, can't find any evidence of citrus on MRI tests.

I do find it strange because MRI simply looks at the fusion of growth plates and is considered 99% accurate.

In poor countries, due to poor nutrition some plates might fuse a little later but it is usually not more than 2 years.


Everything cannot be found on Google. If only you know the panic and tensed atmosphere surrounding these players when they are getting close to MRI test date. These guys try everything out to best the system.
I think a nutritionist suggested they take high doseage of citric acid prior to being tested.
Do you really expect to find this kind of information on Google?
There is a way around everything.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:04pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:


grin Kog45
yea i see u
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:15pm On Oct 22, 2017
What da fvck is wrong with Joel chukwuma obi ?? cry undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:17pm On Oct 22, 2017
goldfish80:


Everything cannot be found on Google. If only you know the panic and tensed atmosphere surrounding these players when they are getting close to MRI test date. These guys try everything out to best the system.
I think a nutritionist suggested they take high doseage of citric acid prior to being tested.
Do you really expect to find this kind of information on Google?
There is a way around everything.
sorry oh, am not a food scientist or a nutritionist but I want to know what this citric acid does to the bones that will enable someone older than 17yrs beat the test, cos I know most of this white guys or someone like that obinna that was born in USA would he scale that test if it's by intake of fruit(citric acid)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:19pm On Oct 22, 2017
Icon4s:


The thing is no one's opinion is useless here and no one has The superiority of opinions. If we consider our ways of reasoning in the past and how we reason now you'll find out that we have all learnt from each other in diverse ways.
I've learnt a lot walahi from everyone here. Goodjoe's constant harping of the concept of 'pressing' made me to go online and read about it for more understanding.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:21pm On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


I tried googling that theory, can't find any evidence of citrus on MRI tests.

I do find it strange because MRI simply looks at the fusion of growth plates and is considered 99% accurate.

In poor countries, due to poor nutrition some plates might fuse a little later but it is usually not more than 2 years.



Please tell theGoodJoe that it is bone fusion, the plates are already there and will continue growing until the plates fuse which is usually between the ages of 15-19 which means a younger person can fail it and an older person can pass it still
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:41pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


That is why I prefer a more balanced set-up where the forward players concentrate more in attacking than defending. We are lacking in our defensive set-up and require numbers to defend. This in turn diminishes our attacking strength.

With a more balanced set-up, someone like Onyekuru can be considered.
But you hail Gaurdiola because he likes his attackers to track back abi his set up at Man City ain't balanced again? The thing is that it's not just Gaurdiola, it's the trend in modern Football that attackers are expected to track back and wing backs are expected to give muscle and bite to the attack. Even the idea of pressing you so much love is a form of defence by the attackers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:44pm On Oct 22, 2017
Umar Sadiq does a lot of good work, then misses his chances.. He has troubled the Roma Defense

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:51pm On Oct 22, 2017
Icon4s:


Thank you for this post my brother. You sabi every.

may I also add that even against Algeria we should not make more than 2 or 3 changes from the normal starting 11. The team is taking shape already and we need to sustain the momentum and build on it.

One of the players I would love to see is Aina starting at LB. Let us see if the food he will cook would be better than that of Echiejile. I would also want to see Iheanacho starting. Let's give him another chance to prove his worth. Thirdly, let's rest Onazi and make Mikel play from CM so Iwobi would play the AM role, flanked by the two Moseses. Let's see how that midfield combo would play out.
This setup should aim at beating Algeria.

The outcome of the experiment would now determine how we'll line up against Argentina.

Rohr should aim at going into the WC unbeaten from qualifiers and friendlies. That will do a lot of good to our mental strength.

I would like to see Aina in his most natural position which is RB we need to know our best players in each position. Then we can shuffle them around to see how versatile they are. Is Shehu our best RB compared to Aina that's a question we need to ask and know the answer too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:56pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


The scans are represented by each player and well monitored and reported. The FIFA agents are there to maintain integrity. You can not just report was done when none was done. The scans are also collected and sent for cataloging. It is serious business for FIFA.

Also, the people scanning it have their integrity to maintain which is more important than the careers of some teenagers looking for a way to make it in life through football.

Beating wrist scan is impossible because it is showing the bone structure. You can even study development of the bone from the structure. It is a science. Not some joke test.

It is a science that's is based on given parameters it's not an exact science it can not tell how exactly old you are.

Your bone scans are matched against given parameters from which informed deductions are made.

Is it possible to beat? Yes 100% because it's indicative and not absolute. Furthermore, physiological make up, environmental factors, nutrition and racial identify all impact on the final deductions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:05pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


There is a cylindrical plate in the wrist of U17 players. How The hell will citrus fruits put that plate when it is not there? Na wa.

I believe some of our players who failed it were within the age bracket but due to the strictness of the scan, where a player younger can fail but a player older can not pass to a high degree accuracy, the young ones who failed might be within the age bracket.

The only reason Maduabuchi Obinwa's case raised dust was because he was American born. If he was Nigerian, no one will care.

That is the only reason it was highlighted.

Did you know his mother had to pay for the scan in excess of 100k naira they then to date refused to give her a copy of the scan.

We are Nigerians we can understand there is much more to this than meets the eye.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:11pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:


That is the only reason it was highlighted.

Did you know his mother had to pay for the scan in excess of 100k naira they then to date refused to give her a copy of the scan.

We are Nigerians we can understand there is much more to this than meets the eye.

I believe the scans are monitored by CAF.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:12pm On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:


You are right, we have had problems with age cheats but we have churned out younger folks 2013-2015.

Wilfred failed 1 MRI before the CAF championship but passed the one during the qualifiers.

Ifeanyi Mathew passed all MRI scans but failed before the world cup.

I believe these men are not far from their declared age.

MRI has drastically reduced the scale of cheating. Not everyone cheats. In 2015, some of our players were still in high school at the time of the tournament. That shows a step in the right direction.

Kayode is one of the few active players from his set of under 17 alongside Onazi, Azeez, Ajagun and Omeruo. Kayode still has a lot of pace which tells me, he is not far from his declared age.

Obagoal is still running fast doesn't make him a teenager. Sylvan Distan when playing for Everton was at the age of 37 considered one of the fastest players in the EPL.

If you read Adokie expose on Kayode he would be at the barest minimum 30 years old.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:16pm On Oct 22, 2017
Mickael2:




The examination protocol was applied in
four countries using, their respective MRI
equipment using a 1‐T or 1.5‐T magnet and
a wrist coil. 496 healthy male adolescent
football players between the ages of 14 and
19 years from Switzerland, Malaysia, Algeria
and Argentina were selected for the study.
The degree of fusion of the left distal radial
physis
was determined by three
independent raters by a newly developed
grading system which can be used in future
MRI epiphysial fusion grading studies.



That is what the MRI is all about, FUSION! You can see that up to 19years the bone can still start to fuse at that age(in fact up to 20 sometimes due to improper diets in Africa/Asia). I do not know why you like arguing what you are not sure of. MRI is used to detect FUSION not BONE FORMATION, I am not a radiographer but I know that well enough

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2465138/

I done talk the matter tire I come remove hand.

The parameters they have used ate not reflective of the differing racial and physiological make up of Sub Saharan Africans.

Our bone different from Asian and Arab origin Africans.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:27pm On Oct 22, 2017
zicky:
sorry oh, am not a food scientist or a nutritionist but I want to know what this citric acid does to the bones that will enable someone older than 17yrs beat the test, cos I know most of this white guys or someone like that obinna that was born in USA would he scale that test if it's by intake of fruit(citric acid)

I saw your earlier post, where you tagged my story as hogwash. I wonder why you're asking questions about the hogwash.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 3:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
Sunday Oliseh bringing excitement back to Fortuna Sittard



Imagine that you are in charge of a club struggling at the foot of the Dutch second division when Sunday Oliseh calls to inform you that he is available for the vacant coaching position. Fortuna Sittard's technical director, Charly Chudik, was surprised to hear the voice of the former Nigerian star late last December. The team seemed to be in a disastrous state in 18th place. Why would such a famous person be interested? And why would he get in touch instead of sending his agent, as it is usually done?

The answer is simple -- Oliseh really wanted the job.

"I received various offers after resigning from the Nigerian national team," he said in an interview with ELF Voetbal magazine. "A top club from South Africa, a club from Portugal and numerous national football federations approached me, but I wasn't interested. Family is the most important thing to me. I wanted to go to a place that would make me happy. Sittard is just 45 minutes by car from my home."

Married to a Belgian, Oliseh lives in Eupen, and that is where he took his first job as a technical director in 2007, but left after six months because he didn't like working in the office. His first coaching experience followed at tiny Verviers in the Belgian third division, but then Oliseh became a pundit, and only came back to the dugout when Nigeria offered him the post in 2015. It was a short and very eventful affair, with Oliseh eventually choosing to quit over allegedly unpaid wages and return to his natural surroundings.

Sittard, situated in Limburg close to the Belgian border, are a proud club of interesting heritage. They may have only won two cup trophies more than half a century ago, but spent long seasons in the Eredivisie and nurtured a number of quality players, including the former Barcelona and Bayern Munich midfielder Mark van Bommel.

However, Fortuna were not fortunate at all following relegation in 2001, and went close to bankruptcy at least three times. Turkish businessman Isitan Gun took over in the summer of 2016 and saved them.

"Without Gun, Fortuna wouldn't have been around these days. He brought stability to the club and appointed new people to the board," De Gelderlander journalist Robert Husken tells ESPN FC.

The 2016-17 season was tough in the extreme, though, and coach Ben van Dael was fired following a terrible run of just one point from nine matches. Oliseh was waiting for that opportunity to offer himself, and the club got a coach they could never have dreamt of.

During his illustrious playing career the Nigerian took part in two World Cup tournaments, scoring a majestic goal against Spain in 1994, won the gold medal at the 1996 Olympics, won the title in the Netherlands with Ajax, and represented Juventus and Borussia Dortmund as well.

Now, as the first black African coach ever in the Netherlands, he has had to deal with a different situation. Fortuna played in front of empty stands in recent years, but Oliseh changed the atmosphere around the club almost immediately. He got off to a winning start at the magnificently named Achilles'29, and proceeded to get some outstanding results. The 5-2 win over Ajax reserves, having trailed 2-0 at half-time, was especially memorable and fans started to flow back to the stadium. Sittard only lost five times in the second round under the new coach and finished the season well above the relegation zone.

Not all the reports were positive. Oliseh's spell with the national team was marred by conflicts with senior players, most notably the popular goalkeeper Vincent Enyeama, who was stripped of captaincy and forced into international retirement. Curiously, that was the case at Fortuna, too, as veteran captain Ferry de Regt left the club in the summer, having fallen out with the Nigerian. Assistant coach Tini Ruijs and goalkeeping coach Patrick Creemers left too, unable to work under Oliseh.

In an editorial published in June, De Limburger journalist Patrick Delait accused Oliseh of installing authoritarian regime.

"He behaves like a governor, and nobody dares to contradict him," he wrote. "By constantly sharpening internal relationships, the Nigerian is becoming a ticking bomb. He looks sympathetic on TV, but behind the scenes he is a wolf in sheep's clothing."

So far, those pessimistic expectations haven't come true. On the contrary, Oliseh has made a phenomenal start to the season, winning five games out of seven, and only losing once. Following the 6-0 triumph at previously unbeaten Telstar last Friday, the biggest away win in club history, Fortuna are second in the table behind Jong Ajax, and technically lead the race because the Amsterdam side are ineligible for promotion.

That is not the only record broken by Oliseh, either. Taking the previous season into account, Fortuna are on an unprecedented run of eight home wins in a row.
And the first goal at Telstar was scored by 17-year-old sensation Perr Schuurs, the youngest captain in club history. Born in November 1999, he was given the armband in the summer by Oliseh, who explained: "If you are good enough, you are old enough." There is little doubt that Schuurs is a huge talent -- he was invited to train with Liverpool in the summer, while Ajax and PSV Eindhoven reportedly made offers to sign him.

Oliseh certainly enjoys working with youngsters much more. Out went the likes of De Regt and 33-year-old striker Sjoerd Ars; in came exciting prospects like Portuguese duo Andre Vidigal, 19, and 21-year-old Lisandro Semedo. They are ably supported by two more 21-year-olds: Finn Stokkers and Djibril Dianessy.

Having laid solid defensive foundations, Oliseh is letting his team play an attacking brand of football, with 21 goals scored so far. Talking to ESPN FC, Delait now admits: "Oliseh is a good motivator who is very strict with his tactics. Fortuna play as a unit under him."

Husken added: "Sunday is a no-nonsense coach who is very clear on what he expects from his players. Having such a star on the bench makes a massive influence on the team."

Few pundits expect Fortuna to keep running and gain promotion, but the youngsters are starting to dream big.

"The spirit of the squad is truly incredible. I have to calm the players at times, because everyone is so hungry," Oliseh told AD recently.

The turnaround had been phenomenal already and the Nigerian is making a name for himself as a coach. But the club will be wary, lest he be lured away from his home in Eupen after his contract at Sittard ends next summer. If he can gain promotion, though, managing such a tight knit team in the Eredivisie could bring some surprising results.

Source: http://kwese.espn.com/football/club/fortuna-sittard/143/blog/post/3220151/sunday-oliseh-bringing-excitement-back-to-fortuna-sittard/?ex_cid=OlisehFortuna_fb_ng_pd_MH

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 3:34pm On Oct 22, 2017
tbaba1234:
Umar Sadiq does a lot of good work, then misses his chances.. He has troubled the Roma Defense
It seems like Torino is wasteful in general. They seem careless
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:35pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:


I done talk the matter tire I come remove hand.

The parameters they have used ate not reflective of the differing racial and physiological make up of Sub Saharan Africans.

Our bone different from Asian and Arab origin Africans.

It has less to do with racial and physiological make up and more to do with standard of living.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:47pm On Oct 22, 2017
komekn:


Obagoal is still running fast doesn't make him a teenager. Sylvan Distan when playing for Everton was at the age of 37 considered one of the fastest players in the EPL.

If you read Adokie expose on Kayode he would be at the barest minimum 30 years old.
Pls let stop this age of a thing,is becoming embarrassing and not good for our image.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 3:51pm On Oct 22, 2017
joseph1013:
Sunday Oliseh bringing excitement back to Fortuna Sittard



Imagine that you are in charge of a club struggling at the foot of the Dutch second division when Sunday Oliseh calls to inform you that he is available for the vacant coaching position. Fortuna Sittard's technical director, Charly Chudik, was surprised to hear the voice of the former Nigerian star late last December. The team seemed to be in a disastrous state in 18th place. Why would such a famous person be interested? And why would he get in touch instead of sending his agent, as it is usually done?

The answer is simple -- Oliseh really wanted the job.

"I received various offers after resigning from the Nigerian national team," he said in an interview with ELF Voetbal magazine. "A top club from South Africa, a club from Portugal and numerous national football federations approached me, but I wasn't interested. Family is the most important thing to me. I wanted to go to a place that would make me happy. Sittard is just 45 minutes by car from my home."

Married to a Belgian, Oliseh lives in Eupen, and that is where he took his first job as a technical director in 2007, but left after six months because he didn't like working in the office. His first coaching experience followed at tiny Verviers in the Belgian third division, but then Oliseh became a pundit, and only came back to the dugout when Nigeria offered him the post in 2015. It was a short and very eventful affair, with Oliseh eventually choosing to quit over allegedly unpaid wages and return to his natural surroundings.
Sittard, situated in Limburg close to the Belgian border, are a proud club of interesting heritage. They may have only won two cup trophies more than half a century ago, but spent long seasons in the Eredivisie and nurtured a number of quality players, including the former Barcelona and Bayern Munich midfielder Mark van Bommel.

However, Fortuna were not fortunate at all following relegation in 2001, and went close to bankruptcy at least three times. Turkish businessman Isitan Gun took over in the summer of 2016 and saved them.
"Without Gun, Fortuna wouldn't have been around these days. He brought stability to the club and appointed new people to the board," De Gelderlander journalist Robert Husken tells ESPN FC.

The 2016-17 season was tough in the extreme, though, and coach Ben van Dael was fired following a terrible run of just one point from nine matches. Oliseh was waiting for that opportunity to offer himself, and the club got a coach they could never have dreamt of.

During his illustrious playing career the Nigerian took part in two World Cup tournaments, scoring a majestic goal against Spain in 1994, won the gold medal at the 1996 Olympics, won the title in the Netherlands with Ajax, and represented Juventus and Borussia Dortmund as well.

Now, as the first black African coach ever in the Netherlands, he has had to deal with a different situation. Fortuna played in front of empty stands in recent years, but Oliseh changed the atmosphere around the club almost immediately. He got off to a winning start at the magnificently named Achilles'29, and proceeded to get some outstanding results. The 5-2 win over Ajax reserves, having trailed 2-0 at half-time, was especially memorable and fans started to flow back to the stadium. Sittard only lost five times in the second round under the new coach and finished the season well above the relegation zone.

Not all the reports were positive. Oliseh's spell with the national team was marred by conflicts with senior players, most notably the popular goalkeeper Vincent Enyeama, who was stripped of captaincy and forced into international retirement. Curiously, that was the case at Fortuna, too, as veteran captain Ferry de Regt left the club in the summer, having fallen out with the Nigerian. Assistant coach Tini Ruijs and goalkeeping coach Patrick Creemers left too, unable to work under Oliseh.

In an editorial published in June, De Limburger journalist Patrick Delait accused Oliseh of installing authoritarian regime.

"He behaves like a governor, and nobody dares to contradict him," he wrote. "By constantly sharpening internal relationships, the Nigerian is becoming a ticking bomb. He looks sympathetic on TV, but behind the scenes he is a wolf in sheep's clothing."

So far, those pessimistic expectations haven't come true. On the contrary, Oliseh has made a phenomenal start to the season, winning five games out of seven, and only losing once. Following the 6-0 triumph at previously unbeaten Telstar last Friday, the biggest away win in club history, Fortuna are second in the table behind Jong Ajax, and technically lead the race because the Amsterdam side are ineligible for promotion.

That is not the only record broken by Oliseh, either. Taking the previous season into account, Fortuna are on an unprecedented run of eight home wins in a row.
And the first goal at Telstar was scored by 17-year-old sensation Perr Schuurs, the youngest captain in club history. Born in November 1999, he was given the armband in the summer by Oliseh, who explained: "If you are good enough, you are old enough." There is little doubt that Schuurs is a huge talent -- he was invited to train with Liverpool in the summer, while Ajax and PSV Eindhoven reportedly made offers to sign him.

Oliseh certainly enjoys working with youngsters much more. Out went the likes of De Regt and 33-year-old striker Sjoerd Ars; in came exciting prospects like Portuguese duo Andre Vidigal, 19, and 21-year-old Lisandro Semedo. They are ably supported by two more 21-year-olds: Finn Stokkers and Djibril Dianessy.

Having laid solid defensive foundations, Oliseh is letting his team play an attacking brand of football, with 21 goals scored so far. Talking to ESPN FC, Delait now admits: "Oliseh is a good motivator who is very strict with his tactics. Fortuna play as a unit under him."

Husken added: "Sunday is a no-nonsense coach who is very clear on what he expects from his players. Having such a star on the bench makes a massive influence on the team."

Few pundits expect Fortuna to keep running and gain promotion, but the youngsters are starting to dream big.

"The spirit of the squad is truly incredible. I have to calm the players at times, because everyone is so hungry," Oliseh told AD recently.

The turnaround had been phenomenal already and the Nigerian is making a name for himself as a coach. But the club will be wary, lest he be lured away from his home in Eupen after his contract at Sittard ends next summer. If he can gain promotion, though, managing such a tight knit team in the Eredivisie could bring some surprising results.

Source: http://kwese.espn.com/football/club/fortuna-sittard/143/blog/post/3220151/sunday-oliseh-bringing-excitement-back-to-fortuna-sittard/?ex_cid=OlisehFortuna_fb_ng_pd_MH
Oliseh is a good motivator who is very strict with his tactics. Fortuna play as a unit under him.
interesting read.

It's apparent that Oliseh has a scatted and rebuild mentality. He also prefers to work with youngsters, most likely because they do not have the kind of ego older players have

Oliseh must also be egoistic, hence his choice to work with young players who won't be as difficult to manage.

Nice to know he successfully chased out the old captain and gave the armband to a kid. Similar to what happened between Enyeama and Musa

He didn't really change his ways, but as can be seen, it is easier to be a radical change agent in club football than National teams.

Best of luck to Oliseh, hope he continues to do more to give himself that legendary status...who knows? In a couple of seasons, he could be in the UCL with his boys
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:55pm On Oct 22, 2017
He will have a hard time at the bigger stage.. As his philosophy can only work with youth teams or teams with younger players. Not taking anything away from him.

joseph1013:
Sunday Oliseh bringing excitement back to Fortuna Sittard



Imagine that you are in charge of a club struggling at the foot of the Dutch second division when Sunday Oliseh calls to inform you that he is available for the vacant coaching position. Fortuna Sittard's technical director, Charly Chudik, was surprised to hear the voice of the former Nigerian star late last December. The team seemed to be in a disastrous state in 18th place. Why would such a famous person be interested? And why would he get in touch instead of sending his agent, as it is usually done?

The answer is simple -- Oliseh really wanted the job.

"I received various offers after resigning from the Nigerian national team," he said in an interview with ELF Voetbal magazine. "A top club from South Africa, a club from Portugal and numerous national football federations approached me, but I wasn't interested. Family is the most important thing to me. I wanted to go to a place that would make me happy. Sittard is just 45 minutes by car from my home."

Married to a Belgian, Oliseh lives in Eupen, and that is where he took his first job as a technical director in 2007, but left after six months because he didn't like working in the office. His first coaching experience followed at tiny Verviers in the Belgian third division, but then Oliseh became a pundit, and only came back to the dugout when Nigeria offered him the post in 2015. It was a short and very eventful affair, with Oliseh eventually choosing to quit over allegedly unpaid wages and return to his natural surroundings.
Sittard, situated in Limburg close to the Belgian border, are a proud club of interesting heritage. They may have only won two cup trophies more than half a century ago, but spent long seasons in the Eredivisie and nurtured a number of quality players, including the former Barcelona and Bayern Munich midfielder Mark van Bommel.

However, Fortuna were not fortunate at all following relegation in 2001, and went close to bankruptcy at least three times. Turkish businessman Isitan Gun took over in the summer of 2016 and saved them.
"Without Gun, Fortuna wouldn't have been around these days. He brought stability to the club and appointed new people to the board," De Gelderlander journalist Robert Husken tells ESPN FC.

The 2016-17 season was tough in the extreme, though, and coach Ben van Dael was fired following a terrible run of just one point from nine matches. Oliseh was waiting for that opportunity to offer himself, and the club got a coach they could never have dreamt of.

During his illustrious playing career the Nigerian took part in two World Cup tournaments, scoring a majestic goal against Spain in 1994, won the gold medal at the 1996 Olympics, won the title in the Netherlands with Ajax, and represented Juventus and Borussia Dortmund as well.

Now, as the first black African coach ever in the Netherlands, he has had to deal with a different situation. Fortuna played in front of empty stands in recent years, but Oliseh changed the atmosphere around the club almost immediately. He got off to a winning start at the magnificently named Achilles'29, and proceeded to get some outstanding results. The 5-2 win over Ajax reserves, having trailed 2-0 at half-time, was especially memorable and fans started to flow back to the stadium. Sittard only lost five times in the second round under the new coach and finished the season well above the relegation zone.

Not all the reports were positive. Oliseh's spell with the national team was marred by conflicts with senior players, most notably the popular goalkeeper Vincent Enyeama, who was stripped of captaincy and forced into international retirement. Curiously, that was the case at Fortuna, too, as veteran captain Ferry de Regt left the club in the summer, having fallen out with the Nigerian. Assistant coach Tini Ruijs and goalkeeping coach Patrick Creemers left too, unable to work under Oliseh.

In an editorial published in June, De Limburger journalist Patrick Delait accused Oliseh of installing authoritarian regime.

"He behaves like a governor, and nobody dares to contradict him," he wrote. "By constantly sharpening internal relationships, the Nigerian is becoming a ticking bomb. He looks sympathetic on TV, but behind the scenes he is a wolf in sheep's clothing."

So far, those pessimistic expectations haven't come true. On the contrary, Oliseh has made a phenomenal start to the season, winning five games out of seven, and only losing once. Following the 6-0 triumph at previously unbeaten Telstar last Friday, the biggest away win in club history, Fortuna are second in the table behind Jong Ajax, and technically lead the race because the Amsterdam side are ineligible for promotion.

That is not the only record broken by Oliseh, either. Taking the previous season into account, Fortuna are on an unprecedented run of eight home wins in a row.
And the first goal at Telstar was scored by 17-year-old sensation Perr Schuurs, the youngest captain in club history. Born in November 1999, he was given the armband in the summer by Oliseh, who explained: "If you are good enough, you are old enough." There is little doubt that Schuurs is a huge talent -- he was invited to train with Liverpool in the summer, while Ajax and PSV Eindhoven reportedly made offers to sign him.

Oliseh certainly enjoys working with youngsters much more. Out went the likes of De Regt and 33-year-old striker Sjoerd Ars; in came exciting prospects like Portuguese duo Andre Vidigal, 19, and 21-year-old Lisandro Semedo. They are ably supported by two more 21-year-olds: Finn Stokkers and Djibril Dianessy.

Having laid solid defensive foundations, Oliseh is letting his team play an attacking brand of football, with 21 goals scored so far. Talking to ESPN FC, Delait now admits: "Oliseh is a good motivator who is very strict with his tactics. Fortuna play as a unit under him."

Husken added: "Sunday is a no-nonsense coach who is very clear on what he expects from his players. Having such a star on the bench makes a massive influence on the team."

Few pundits expect Fortuna to keep running and gain promotion, but the youngsters are starting to dream big.

"The spirit of the squad is truly incredible. I have to calm the players at times, because everyone is so hungry," Oliseh told AD recently.

The turnaround had been phenomenal already and the Nigerian is making a name for himself as a coach. But the club will be wary, lest he be lured away from his home in Eupen after his contract at Sittard ends next summer. If he can gain promotion, though, managing such a tight knit team in the Eredivisie could bring some surprising results.

Source: http://kwese.espn.com/football/club/fortuna-sittard/143/blog/post/3220151/sunday-oliseh-bringing-excitement-back-to-fortuna-sittard/?ex_cid=OlisehFortuna_fb_ng_pd_MH
Oliseh is a good motivator who is very strict with his tactics. Fortuna play as a unit under him.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:02pm On Oct 22, 2017
All this dem say arguments, you hardly learn anything.. we keep arguing in circles. The MRI is a standard. It is here to stay. Any player who passes the test is within the age range. If you can't provide their original certificate to disprove it, just beat it.

Modified
We who are suppose to be repairing our image with the MRI science, are tearing ourselves down and trying to make claims about players who are most likely actually within the range. it's pathetic. Some of us will go all lengths to attempt to prove these players are all age cheats if we are paid.


Kog45:
Pls let stop this age of a thing,is becoming embarrassing and not good for our image.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 4:04pm On Oct 22, 2017
goldfish80:


I saw your earlier post, where you tagged my story as hogwash. I wonder why you're asking questions about the hogwash.
And you did not see the 'sorry'in my second post, too many theories why we Nigerians should not rely on the MRI thing made me to jump lnto my earlier conclusion.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 4:15pm On Oct 22, 2017
Sadiq is getting games when it matter most only the goals is missing now

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