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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ashawopikin(m): 8:40pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
kayzat:u no dey read bible? We pray to God in the name of jesus john 14:13 |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by mamachizzy(f): 8:41pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Kenerd:what's in the missal? is it not bible chapters ![]() |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by NESTAD(m): 8:42pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
You Pentecostals, believe Catholic worship/ idolizes Mary through the Holy Rosary. Point of correction, we Catholics Honour Mary through the Rosary. In the Bible, Mary clearly spells out her role in eternity: My soul magnifies the Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. For He has regarded the lowly state of his maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. (Lk 1:46-49) The Bible says Jesus is magnified by Mary's soul. A soul is eternal and not limited by life on earth. Mary reinforces her eternal ministry by saying "all generations will call me blessed." If the Bible intended Mary's ministry to end with the birth of Jesus, or at his death, or even at Mary's death, it wouldn't use that language. A magnifying glass increases the object it is focused on, so being in relation to Mary's eternal soul does not draw focus away from Jesus, it does the opposite. It magnifies him. This is the Bible's word to the people of God, and it is my experience. I've heard Evangelical pastors do sermons on just about every passage of Scripture except this one. In fact, the movie "The Nativity" removed words referring to Mary when this Bible passage was on the screen during the final scene. It's crazy to remove words about Mary from the Bible to make some Christians feel more comfortable. Catholics believe Mary's soul still "magnifies the Lord" for Christians of our generation who choose to relate to her. Currently, Catholics are pretty well the only ones upholding the biblical prophecy to call her blessed, which was intended for all generations, and for all Christians., we don't worship Mary rather we give honour to Her because the blessed Trinity was fully present in her. You Pentecostals, rather do the opposite, u worship ur so call Pastors and their wivies by calling them Daddy and Mummy. U give more reverence to ur Pastors wivies but ignored honouring Mary. I have a question for all Pentecostals on nairaland that are critics of Mary. Isn't in the Bible that Mary made a pronouncement that " Henceforth, ALL GENERATION SHALL CALL ME BLESSED. How many if u call her blessed as stated in the Bible. It's only Catholics that call Mary blessed. I'm born and raised a Catholic and I will die a Catholic. Stop talking shut about Catholics and I urge u to change ur church an follow the one and only Church instituted by Christ himself. Christ said to Peter, u 're the rock and upon u I will build my church. Which church is Christ referring to " The Catholic Church, St Peter was the first Pope. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:42pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
freshboi88:JESUS , the disciples and apostles never for once made reference to or give a hint to 'honor' mary. Instead emphasis was laid on the Holy spirit. Please retrace your steps to the truth |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ireneidiva(f): 8:43pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
zaragoza:So Jw, Deeper Life, etc don't have doctrines? Do you know the meaning of 'doctrine'? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by obayaya(m): 8:44pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
amunkita: Here is the full Hail Mary Prayer and the Biblical backing Hail Mary, Full of Grace, The Lord is with you (Luke 1:28) Blessed are you amongst women and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus (Luke 1:41-42) Holy Mary, Mother of God (Luke 1:43) Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death (James 5:16). 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by successking: 8:44pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Sanchez01: Has Catholic Church stopped making money? Do you know the reason for harvest committee in Catholic Church? Abeg no go there! |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by joshnes(m): 8:45pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
tete7000:You are arguing with yourself. The commandment and the instruction to make the serpent are both in the bible and you don't need a professor to explain them to you. They did not pray to nor worship the serpent. As for your other questions I refer you back to where I said the bible and God does not tolerate idolatry also you can read Romans 1: 21-32. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by NESTAD(m): 8:46pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
You Pentecostals, believe Catholic worship/ idolizes Mary through the Holy Rosary. Point of correction, we Catholics Honour Mary through the Rosary. In the Bible, Mary clearly spells out her role in eternity: My soul magnifies the Lord, And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. For He has regarded the lowly state of his maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. (Lk 1:46-49) The Bible says Jesus is magnified by Mary's soul. A soul is eternal and not limited by life on earth. Mary reinforces her eternal ministry by saying "all generations will call me blessed." If the Bible intended Mary's ministry to end with the birth of Jesus, or at his death, or even at Mary's death, it wouldn't use that language. A magnifying glass increases the object it is focused on, so being in relation to Mary's eternal soul does not draw focus away from Jesus, it does the opposite. It magnifies him. This is the Bible's word to the people of God, and it is my experience. I've heard Evangelical pastors do sermons on just about every passage of Scripture except this one. In fact, the movie "The Nativity" removed words referring to Mary when this Bible passage was on the screen during the final scene. It's crazy to remove words about Mary from the Bible to make some Christians feel more comfortable. Catholics believe Mary's soul still "magnifies the Lord" for Christians of our generation who choose to relate to her. Currently, Catholics are pretty well the only ones upholding the biblical prophecy to call her blessed, which was intended for all generations, and for all Christians., we don't worship Mary rather we give honour to Her because the blessed Trinity was fully present in her. You Pentecostals, rather do the opposite, u worship ur so call Pastors and their wivies by calling them Daddy and Mummy. U give more reverence to ur Pastors wivies but ignored honouring Mary. I have a question for all Pentecostals on nairaland that are critics of Mary. Isn't in the Bible that Mary made a pronouncement that " Henceforth, ALL GENERATION SHALL CALL ME BLESSED. How many of u call her blessed as stated in the Bible. It's only Catholics that call Mary blessed. I'm born and raised a Catholic and I will die a Catholic. Stop talking shit about Catholics and I urge u to change ur church an follow the one and only Church instituted by Christ himself. Christ said to Peter, u 're the rock and upon u I will build my church. Which church is Christ referring to " The Catholic Church, St Peter was the first Pope. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by chisupport: 8:46pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
The use of images, does not translate to the worship of them. The arc of the LORD's covenant is an image. Whose design was God's idea. The image of the serpent in the deaert, is an image. The image of the seraphim and cherubim weRe also described by God to be designed and place in the most holy place in the temple of GOD. God cannot contradict himself.. The catholic church does not worship images. The center of the Church is CHRIST THE SON OF GOD. The gates of hell shall never prevail against the church. Amen. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 8:47pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Proffdada: Do u honor ur own mother?? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by princemidon(m): 8:48pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
The most enduring church in the world is CATHOLIC Church. Take it OR Leave it. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by mamachizzy(f): 8:48pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
pls ooo, is it about ur life or ur church? will God judge u based on church or based on what u did here on earth? we love leaving the substance to follow shadow. I don't care which church an individual attends. what matters is how u live ur life. People need to chill cos this hatred towards the Catholic church baffles me. that's why most religions will always be better than us Christians . instead of coming together and proclaiming the good news of his resurrection we are Buddy fighting our selves. too bad |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by DeYoungJoe(m): 8:48pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
When D israelites were dying of snake bite, God instructed Moses to make an image of snake, dat who ever looks at dat snake will no longer die of snake bite. So, u shud ask God why he ordered 4 image of snake instead of calling D name of D Lord. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by obayaya(m): 8:48pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Proffdada: The Angel Gabriel honored Mary in Luke 1:28. How much more we mortal men who are below the angels. Hebrews 2:7. You my brother needs to stop criticizing what you don't understand. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by LeonMacJames(m): 8:49pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
I am a catholic, I believe in the bible, I don't worship Mary neither do I worship Idols and objects. The Catholic Faith needs not to be defended against the words of men. Time tells it all |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by chossy: 8:49pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Catholic and pentecostal are like pDP and ApC we are arguing over nothing. We both believe in doing the right thing which ever ways one follow don't judge let God be the one to judge us. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by jonadaft: 8:51pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
HungerBAD:Pot calling kettle black... Why do you pray through Jesus then? Jesus a mere human is now God to you people... So that son of Mary is the creator of this world? And he needs to come to this world in human flesh in order to be killed by the sinful Humans to wash away their sons and to please God(Jesus)... Nonsense! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:51pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
NESTAD:you can't keep honoring a dead mary ,erect graven images which you kneel before every and expect the Holy Spirit to dwell in you |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by soapete(m): 8:53pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Their pastors Don brainwash them ni |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Nobody: 8:53pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
tete7000:Did the Israelites worshipped the bronze image of a serpent? No. It's act of worship those images that God hates. The Israelites were asked to look at the serpent not bow down to worship it. The art of covenant had images but were not worshipped. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Pamellakimona: 8:53pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by GGirll: 8:54pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
[quote author=Kenerd post=61654490]2nd set:1. For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: 2. Thou shalt make theeno molten gods. 3. The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. 4. All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male. 5. Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventhday thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest. 6. And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the first fruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.7. Thrice in the year shall all your menchildren appear before the LORD God, the God of Israel. 8. Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the feast of the Passover be left until the morning. 9. The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. 10. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk. Exodus 34.[/quote Please all those things you wrote are found in Ex34 but the first commandment was written in Ex20 and in verse 4 it said thou shalt not make unto th we any graven image or any likeness of anything that is In heaven above or that is In the earth verse 5 thou shalt not BOW DOWN THYSELF TO THEM NOR SERVE THEM FOR I THE LORD THY GOD AM A JEALOUS GOD, VISITING THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO D 3RD N 4TH GENERATION OF THEM THAT HATE ME....KISS THE TRUTH |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by mamachizzy(f): 8:54pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
shutupareyouGOD:no they are protestants since it seems like that's all they do, protest protest protest. even when nothing is happening to them |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by joshnes(m): 8:54pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
tete7000:the ark is NOT an object of worship. God NEVER asked the Isrealites to worship the ark. NEVER. The ark of the covenant, like the brazen serpent was symbolic. Representing the Holy Spirit filled born again child of God in the new testament era. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by giles14(m): 8:55pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
safarigirl:na you know |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:55pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
obayaya:do you worship angels? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by emelda86(f): 8:55pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Na una sabi catholic till I die All this my daddy Go said.... |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by princemidon(m): 8:56pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!! TAKE OVER of Britain who to blame for passively succumbed to the Muslim invasion? Mayor of London ... MUSLIM Mayor of Birmingham ... MUSLIM Mayor of Leeds ... MUSLIM Mayor of Blackburn ... MUSLIM Mayor of Sheffield ... MUSLIM Mayor of Oxford ... MUSLIM Mayor of Luton ... MUSLIM Mayor of Oldham ... MUSLIM Mayor of Rockdale ... MUSLIM. Over 3,000 Muslim Mosques Over 130 Muslim Sharia Courts Over 50 Muslim Sharia Councils Muslims-Only No-Go Areas Across The UK. Muslim Women ... 78% don't work and are on FREE benefits/housing. Muslim Men ... 63% don't work and are on FREE benefits/housing. Muslim Families 6-8 children planning to go on FREE benefits/housing. Now all UK schools are ONLY serving HALAL MEAT ! All this achieved by just 4 million Muslims out of the 66 million population!!! This is an eye opening for all non-Muslims - ..... ..... Forward this if you are concerned!!! Turkey is in the present day Europe and partly in Asia. ■Apostle Paul was a citizen of Turkey because Tarsus exists in Turkey. ■Christianity existed in Turkey for about 1,023 years while Christianity has only existed in Nigeria and Ghana for 172yrs starting from when Rev. Birch Freeman came to Badagry in 1842. ■The seven churches Jesus spoke to in Revelations 2 & 3(Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea) existed in the old Turkey. ■Turkey once had the largest Christian auditorium in Europe called Hagia Sophia in Constantinople. ■Mary the mother of Jesus was taken to Turkey by Apostle John and till date, her room has become a tourist centre. *TURKEY TODAY* ■Present day Turkey now has 96% muslims & 0.02% Christians(less than 130,000). ■The Hagia Sophia(once largest church in Europe) was taken over by muslims and converted to a mosque for over 400yrs and later used as an Islamic Museum. *WHY CHRISTIANITY COLLAPSED IN TURKEY* ■Emphasis on doctrinal differences weakened the Turkish church. ■Rivalries amongst denominations. ■Petty politics in church coupled with ethnic biases. ■The Turks were building big cathedrals instead of building men. *HOW IT HAPPENED* ■Osman Ghazi discovered the disunity amongst Christians and used it to fight a Jihad that led to a mass genocide of the Armenians, the Hellen and Turks of that day. In fact, the weapon of war used was designed by a Turkish Christian. ■Many Christian women converted to Islam to save their lives and some were raped and killed. ■Osman Ghazi started the Ottoman empire which gave muslims political post and made it a religion of the state. *IS NIGERIA/GHANA HEADING THE WAY OF TURKEY* ■Virtually all the mistakes the church in Turkey made, the Nigerian/Ghanaian church have made it. ■We are building Cathedrals at the expense of discipling men. ■Disunity amongst churches. ■Ethnicity in the church. ■Denominational rivalry, etc. ■Sharp division along doctrinal lines. *MORE FACTS* ■The spiritual foundation of Turkey is stronger than that of Nigeria/ Ghana and Christianity existed for over 1000yrs in Turkey unlike ours which is just 172yrs but Islam Radicalism uprooted it. If it happened in Turkey, it can also happen in Nigeria/Ghana if we are not careful. ■The menace of Boko Haram has destroyed a lot of churches in the Northern Nigeria, and it may take another 200yrs to evangelize Borno State alone. ■There is a secret agenda to Islamize Nigeria and other African nations as contained in Abuja declaration of 1989. *DON'T SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE, IF WE DON'T RIGHT OUR WRONGS AS A CHURCH* *SOLUTION* ■HEART-FELT Intercession. ■Aggressive evangelism - the terrorist reached out to the youths in the Norths first and gave them AK-47 and bombs. lf we had reached out to them on time, they'll be carrying BIBLES today. ■Mission support - God is holding the church responsible for Boko Haram, yet we are blaming the government. If we had supported missions and missionaries, we would have had those insurgents to Christ long ago. ■Unity of the church is key in winning this battle. The last but not the least christians should be actively involved in politics. Enough of these Muslims, holding political offices with Islamic agenda. *ARISE CHURCH & LETS DO THE NEEDFUL!* Please, send to Bishops, General Overseers, Pastors, Christian WhatsApp groups and all Christians on your contact list. May God bless you as you spread the word. You are the Church! Let's work in unison in preaching God's words. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Nobody: 8:56pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
2016easy2017:There is the difference between having an image of Jesus and bowing to it. It's the bowing down to it that's the bone of contention. Can I have a picture of imaginary Jesus but I can't bow or worship it. So the two concept are totally different |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 8:57pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
thunderbabs:if a pastor who committed a sin baptises a person is the person truly baptised? yes or no? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by osazsky(m): 8:57pm On Oct 22, 2017 |
Andy2274:and who told you that what you have there is the image of Jesus and Mary, these whites don't really deceive us since creation. no one has seen Jesus image or how he looks like, the person u are worshiping his real name Robert powell born 1st June 1944 and the other one DAT acted 1 Like |
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