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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:36pm On Oct 22, 2017
oyinda1599:
xtians are so quick to judge Muslism, insult prophet Muhammad etc.Muslims worship everyday together in the same mosque decently but in xtianity,someone going to living faith church cannot just enter CAC church and worship the same God.Jehovah witness cannot marry from Anglican church and so on.yet they call Muslims names.There is God oo!

Yeah u right.... Y not worship with Shiites now.....y is there enimity bw Iran and saudi arabia
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:36pm On Oct 22, 2017
femi4:
Go back to the Bible toddler and check how churches are being planted
nobody in the Bible planted his own Church, they only expanded the church already began.

there were no denominations in Christianity, it was Protestants who began such shameful practice.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by TheArchangel(f): 10:37pm On Oct 22, 2017
asuustrike2009:

None of them. I have the images in my house because I admire it not to bow to it
Really Chosen goers has their apron, redeemed has their daddy GO anklet and bangle as an amulets and so on but if it is Catholics all hell will break loose.....hypocritical Christians.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Nobody: 10:37pm On Oct 22, 2017
obayaya:


Most things isn't about her... But the critics chose to magnify that part just to discredit us.

Hail Mary is a prayer with Biblical backing.. basically the Angel and Elizabeth's greetings to Mary.

The Catholic Church is vast with a lot of societies. Legion of Mary, Sacred heart of Jesus, the Charismatic renewal and a whole lot of others. But detractors only choose to talk about the Marian societies.

I remember in 2011, I had a roommate who was an adventist. And you know adventists are the biggest critics to the Catholic Church. He kept bashing until we made a deal. Fridays we both attend the adventists vesper service and Saturday worship and on Sundays we attend the Catholic Church.

We began having robust discussion about the rituals of the mass and the Biblical roots and his opinion changed forever. Take your time.. Visit a Catholic Church, pay attention to her rituals and doctrines, read about the Biblical backings online and maybe.. just maybe, you'll judge the church a little less harshly.

The church made a lot of mistake in her past. But that doesn't make the church as evil as you all try to paint her
If you talk of Catholic I dey gidigba. But the truth of the Matter is that they worship idols
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by joshnes(m): 10:37pm On Oct 22, 2017
freshboi88:


The man saw were I was headed n he ran away....this man agrees that symbols were used in worshipping God, he agrees that these symbols were reverenced not worship....he agrees that reverence is not worship..... But he simply doesn't agree that the images used n d catholic church r not idols but symbols , he doesn't agree that reverencing what that symbol represents is not worship the image....how better can one define hypocrisy
This one you're saying is beating around the bush. My main message here is you do not need symbols anymore. If you are a christian you've got what/who is better and greater than any statue or symbol of any man or woman, saint or apostle. If you are really born again, you've got Jesus, what do you need symbols for again? If you've got the real deal why deal with what is past? The time of symbols and statues and arks are gone, this is the time of those who are walking arks of the covenant, carrying God and beign the symbols themselves.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Nobody: 10:39pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheArchangel:
Even worshipping Jesus sound so absurd that I prefer being a deist instead. Jesus and Mary what's the difference? One is the son of God while the other is the mother of God. Why does it irks the protestants so much that Catholics reverence both. ?......hypocrites.
Jesus is to be worshipped not Mary. Jesus is the way to the father,an intercessor not Mary
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by TheArchangel(f): 10:39pm On Oct 22, 2017
asuustrike2009:

If you talk of Catholic I dey gidigba. But the truth of the Matter is that they worship idols
Name the idols?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:40pm On Oct 22, 2017
Confuciusng:


There are passages in the bible you'd read and never understand, unless there is divine guidance from the Holy Spirit. But there are also some passages that are written clearly and do not need divine intervention for comprehension.

You remember Exodus 25, when God instructed the children of Israel to build a place he could dwell, his sanctuary.
Well, the Catholic Church just decided to follow this description when they designed the pope's throne. Is it a coincidence/conspiracy?
Exodus 25:17-19 ...'And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.'

“The LORD reigns; Let the peoples tremble! He dwells between the cherubim; Let the earth be moved!”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭99:1‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
http://bible.com/114/psa.99.1.nkjv
The pope sits on something a little like that too:

“Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
http://bible.com/114/mat.23.9.nkjv
Yet you all call the pope the Holy Father.

The Pope is not simply the representative of Jesus Christ. On the contrary, he is Jesus Christ Himself, under the veil of the flesh." (Evangelical Christendom, January 1, 1895, pg. 15, published in London by J. S. Phillips)
"The Pope is of so great dignity, and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God and the vicar of God."(Ferraris Ecclesiastical dictionary). You can go check these out, they said this stuff. No be play play.
The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth."(Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, Cities Petrus Bertanous).
Wow, am shocked.

Ref: http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/man-of-sin-revealed.html


you call your pastors daddy and cry Catholics call the pope father? hypocrisy.


hope you know the church doesn't teach any of the stuff you quoted above.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by enemyofprogress: 10:40pm On Oct 22, 2017
oyinda1599:
Am already laughing.. Lolsss.I thought Christianity is a perfect religion. Nawaoo,some worship Mary while some worship Jesus.
oyinda abi na okoda be your name,no go treat dat your mouth and body odour,na only you Mohammed bless with the the two problems. Sidon there dey laff like hyena.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:41pm On Oct 22, 2017
femi4:
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said: set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them... So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they went down to Seleucia ... to Cyprus" (Acts 13:2-4). These missionaries (Apostles) as a first church planting team were sent out by the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit used them to "make disciples" and to "plant churches" in different towns (Acts 13:52; 14:22).

so did they start their own denominations?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by joshnes(m): 10:41pm On Oct 22, 2017
freshboi88:


If u agree that bowing down does not mean worship y den do u accuse catholics of worshipping Mary??
does not necessarily
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 10:42pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheArchangel:
Catholics dont worship images or any other thing except God. Period. Take it to fort Knox
i once saw a clip of a boy that was almost killed by a statue of mary he was carrying. Instead of saving the boy they were tending to the statue grin
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by TheArchangel(f): 10:43pm On Oct 22, 2017
joshnes:
This one you're saying is beating around the bush. My main message here is you do not need symbols anymore. If you are a christian you've got what/who is better and greater than any statue or symbol of any man or woman, saint or apostle. If you are really born again, you've got Jesus, what do you need symbols for again? If you've got the real deal why deal with what is past? The time of symbols and statues and arks are gone, this is the time of those who are walking arks of the covenant, carrying God and beign the symbols themselves.
You are funny with your assertions. What say you of the apron, handkerchiefs, bracelets, anklets with daddy GO faces on it etc that is sold and use like an amulets all over the churches now which is no different than the ark of covenant of old? Pluck out your log of woods first.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by oyinda1599(f): 10:43pm On Oct 22, 2017
freshboi88:


Yeah u right.... Y not worship with Shiites now.....y is there enimity bw Iran and saudi arabia
Shiite deviate totally from Islam,they pray 3times daily instead of 5times according to the Holy Quran.They praise their imam instead of God.So I can't worship with them.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:44pm On Oct 22, 2017
Proffdada:
can you give other accounts where this was made by Jesus or God?
I don't need another, that one is enough
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Nobody: 10:44pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheArchangel:
Name the idols?
The statue of Mary and Jesus.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by amunkita(m): 10:45pm On Oct 22, 2017
TheArchangel:
Catholics dont worship images or any other thing except God. Period. Take it to fort Knox

Hahahahaha...
Sure they don't, they bow to ask it out..

I better take it to 82 Division...
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:46pm On Oct 22, 2017
Proffdada:
that was before Christ. If you continue like that you don't believe in Christ
even the commandments you guys have been quoting is before Christ.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ashawopikin(m): 10:46pm On Oct 22, 2017
Ubenedictus:
please what does the Bible say about baptism?
bible said baptism is total immersion in water, while catholics dont
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:46pm On Oct 22, 2017
joshnes:
This one you're saying is beating around the bush. My main message here is you do not need symbols anymore. If you are a christian you've got what/who is better and greater than any statue or symbol of any man or woman, saint or apostle. If you are really born again, you've got Jesus, what do you need symbols for again? If you've got the real deal why deal with what is past? The time of symbols and statues and arks are gone, this is the time of those who are walking arks of the covenant, carrying God and beign the symbols themselves.

I'll tackle on this but one at a time.....but first if u agree that yes symbols were used then by the Israelites....and reverencing it didn't mean worshipping it....if u didn't see it Aa idolatry den.....y den do u accuse d catholic church of idolatry wen it reverences d symbols it uses ??

Secondly were in the bible did u see that symbols are not needed anymore..........

There is the old testament not part of the bible anymore.....y discard it like its not part of the bible??
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:47pm On Oct 22, 2017
ashawopikin:
bible said baptism is total immersion in water, while catholics dont

Where did the bible say baptism is total immersion in water??
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:48pm On Oct 22, 2017
oyinda1599:
Shiite deviate totally from Islam,they pray 3times daily instead of 5times according to the Holy Quran.They praise their imam instead of God.So I can't worship with them.

Thts enough division already
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:49pm On Oct 22, 2017
asuustrike2009:

If you talk of Catholic I dey gidigba. But the truth of the Matter is that they worship idols
your untrue opinion.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 10:49pm On Oct 22, 2017
Ubenedictus:
I don't need another, that one is enough
as rich as the bible is grin
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by TheArchangel(f): 10:49pm On Oct 22, 2017
Proffdada:
i once saw a clip of a boy that was almost killed by a statue of mary he was carrying. Instead of saving the boy they were tending to the statue grin
Was he worshipping it? You have no knowledge of catholic church? Start from the beginning. !...the reformation and how it spread to the whole world. South American has a big problem with incorporation of their Mayan pagan religion in to the church....so also the Philippines which the church abhors. Read....
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by TimeMod1: 10:49pm On Oct 22, 2017
Ladyjumong:
what ritual
Here comes a dumbo who claimed she no longer fancy its obligations ( ritual of worship )
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:50pm On Oct 22, 2017
joshnes:
does not necessarily

Meaning that it might mean and it might not.....so having this in might....on what grounds do u now decide and force it on catholics that their reverence is worship
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Cyprian24: 10:50pm On Oct 22, 2017
Some times I wonder how we Christians generally claim to know the bible and deviate from it teachings , for some of us who read our bibles very well it is clearly written that " thy sha not judge" I wonder why we keep criticizing our selves instead of reading our bibles and doing the will of God. For heaven sake it is not the duty of any human being to determine who worship God rightly , God has not giving any human the right to judge the other, brethren I think we should be more focused on how we can make heaven and leave the judgement for God.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by TheArchangel(f): 10:51pm On Oct 22, 2017
asuustrike2009:

The statue of Mary and Jesus.
They don't worship any statue of anybody...you are the one forcing the " perceived worshipping " on them.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by afrikanmodels: 10:51pm On Oct 22, 2017
dingbang:
I decided to hit the nail right through its head and call out all pentecostals (Followers of Martin Luther) in Nairaland to tell the whole world why they think the Catholic Church is not a Bible Believing Church.

On what basis will a Church be termed "Non bible Believing"?


Let's have your Opinions ..

I will do a post here soon to make some clarifications about the catholic faith. I noticed, most people don't really understand what christianity is all about. There are alots Christians needs to know about the history of our salvation and how it affects u as a christian.

Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:51pm On Oct 22, 2017
amunkita:


If addressing someone is prayer, why don't u guyz pray using the 12 disciples afterall go to the books of Philipians, Timothy, Ephesians nd see how these men were addressed by other great men of God.
I belive in the trinity but if Mary is the mother of God then the passage that sayz come to the father through the son is contradicting right Afterall they re one....

Wait oooo, did u say Mary was born without sin?
My brother, u see u guyz know very little of the bible, open to Psalm 51 vs 5, ephesian 2 vs 3, we re born sinners expect u can prove the above passage false.

This is no quest brother, take away sentiment nd seek knowledge nd you would be free..
Can also see u ve avoided other questions I raised...
we also pray using the 12 apostles... the only wahala is you guys only start foaming in the mouth once you hear Mary
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:52pm On Oct 22, 2017
asuustrike2009:

None of them. I have the images in my house because I admire it not to bow to it
do you pray in the rooms with those image

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