Most Nigerians worship their pastors n churches rather dan worshipping God....
Wake up Nigerians from ur slumber

internationalman:

Neither do they instruct we make supplication via pastors.

those make supplications to pastors are wrong. The church today is sick and needs a revival alot of things gone wrong some churches don't even read from revelations anymore. But that doesn't mean there aren't some that still preach the word undiluted. But catholics let me just be quiet

joshnes:
you have told me what you don't do. You have not told me what you do with the images.

I have them around as visual reminder of my faith.

joshnes:
pray for you, pray with you. They are before you, they are not images. When you ask an image, chaplet or dead person to pray for you, it is IDOLATRY. The Image.

nobody prays to an image or chaplet, people may pray in front of it but not to it

joshnes:
you have told me what you don't do. You have not told me what you do with the images.

You said we worship it and I answer that we don't. So I ask whether you worship the apron and the handkerchiefs and you said no ..it is just there. ?it is.same with Catholics....it is just there. Eg .Looking at the crucifix while praying helps in deep meditation of what Jesus pass through before his death.

joshnes:
she is dead I dont need to gather the info from anywhere, a woman that lived 2 thousand years ago is dead and buried like any other mortal.

I dnt Want to sound funny like u guys, if not I would have asked u were it is in d bible tht Mary died

But then u r of d opinion tht asking d dead to intercede on ones behalf is idolatry right??

TheArchangel:
Really Chosen goers has their apron, redeemed has their daddy GO anklet and bangle as an amulets and so on but if it is Catholics all hell will break loose.....hypocritical Christians.

Apron is scriptural but chaplets isn't.
New International Version
so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them( Act 19:12)

Proffdada:
please present your evidence for this claim of yours or be branded a voracious and blatant lai mohamned

read up sir Thomas more and bishop Fisher, if you need more name ask.

ttmax09:
those make supplications to pastors are wrong. The church today is sick and needs a revival alot of things gone wrong some churches don't even read from revelations anymore. But that doesn't mean there aren't some that still preach the word undiluted. But catholics let me just be quiet

I only like them bcoz dey hardly see visions

Ubenedictus:
is every other mother the mother of Jesus?

Mary is human like us. She's dead and buried like other persons in the Bible. She's even in heaven as I speak

asuustrike2009:
No

you run away from those rooms when you wish to pray?

Ubenedictus:
nobody prays to an image or chaplet, people may pray in front of it but not to it

if you don't pray TO it why stay IN FRONT OF it?

asuustrike2009:

Apron is scriptural but chaplets isn't.
New International Version
so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them( Act 19:12)

and bracelets with daddy GO pictures too?

Lotta I'd*0ts talking rubbish about Catholics, if I pray to Jesus through mother mary and she grants my prayers , then why the f you Protestants keep masturbating on this issue. You say she's not important but when you want miracles you plead with your pastors to intercede for you to Jesus. The Catholic church has been criticized from every angle, keep on trying, the church will never fall.

joshnes:
you pray to God in Jesus Name. Anybody praying for you should do the same, anything other than that is idolatry. JOHN 14:16 "......NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME" That Scripure is my authority, please show me where you are told to pray to Mary.

If your interpretation is correct then y do I need my brothers n sisters to pray for me

asuustrike2009:

You know the truth. Don't deny it when the fact and scriptures are there for you to read. Ask yourself this question, are most doctrines of the Catholic faith Bible base? Isn't the Bible against idol worship?

Catholic doctrine are Christ based,and sorry we don't worship idols

Proffdada:
if you don't pray TO it why stay IN FRONT OF it?

the same reason Joshua stayed in front of the ark as he prayed. because of what it represent or depicts

joshnes:
you pray to God in Jesus Name. Anybody praying for you should do the same, anything other than that is idolatry. JOHN 14:16 "......NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME" That Scripure is my authority, please show me where you are told to pray to Mary.

The bible says pray for one another isn't it....so for somene to pray for me...I should ask the person to pray for me........right??

freshboi88:


I dnt Want to sound funny like u guys, if not I would have asked u were it is in d bible tht Mary died

But then u r of d opinion tht asking d dead to intercede on ones behalf is idolatry right??

I am actually quite sleepy, so if you can get to your point, I will be grateful.

nuggarito:
Lotta I'd*0ts talking rubbish about Catholics, if I pray to Jesus through mother mary and she grants my prayers , then why the f you Protestants keep masturbating on this issue. You say she's not important but when you want miracles you plead with your pastors to intercede for you to Jesus. The Catholic church has been criticized from every angle, keep on trying, the church will never fall.

mary is dead and long gone , catholics are praying to another entity which uses statues and sacraments as conduits to siphon their spiritual essence QED

EmpressT:
As far as I know, the catholic church is not one of God's worship foundations for the saints. Their doctrines are nothing to write home about. I once worked at their guest house with the church located around and I deeply understand who goes in there. Well, I am not condemning anyone who goes to catholic but my main concern is how these people knee before the graven images of Mary and Jesus and acknowledging them when they have a free license to speak openly and directly to God without facing pictures made by man. There is no biblical word that commands the children of God to honour or glorify mary. It's been said according to God's ordinances that no man must make image of anything on earth and worship it, it is idolatry. I just pray that God open their eyes and ears to the truth.

U r the one who needs your eyes to be open....pls read Joshua 6:7 and 1kings 6:23-37...den come back let's talk

Proffdada:
mary is dead and long gone , catholics are praying to another entity which uses statues and sacraments as conduits to siphon their spiritual essence

I asked you when the praying to Mary started and you are yet to answer that.

joshnes:
I am actually quite sleepy, so if you can get to your point, I will be grateful.

Are u saying that asking Mary to pray me is idolatry, solely on the basis that u tink she is dead

hisgrace090:
Catholics have started practicing almost all the Pentecostals practice, ie- holding crusade, forming bible studying group, prayer ministry etc.

But refuse to abandon all their practices that is against the bible as many have mentioned above.

Today they are arguementators in other to keep on holding unto those false doctrine instead of changing.

As of today let God alone handle their case not me.

you are saying u will make heaven b4 any full practicing catholic?

TheArchangel:
I asked you when the praying to Mary started and you are yet to answer that.

doesn't your prayers start with hail mary? What is mary's name doing in a conversation with God?

Proffdada:
doesn't your prayers start with hail mary? What is mary's name doing in a conversation with God?

Your arguments are without premises. When did the praying to Mary started since you knew so much about it. Meanwhile, your bible started the hailing in the gospel of Luke, Catholics are continuing from there.

freshboi88:


U r the one who needs your eyes to be open....pls read Joshua 6:7 and 1kings 6:23-37...den come back let's talk

does it mean Christ didn't come at all,died on the Cross and resurrected on the third day? For us to still worship God from afar and burn offerings?

Proffdada:
does it mean Christ didn't come at all,died on the Cross and resurrected on the third day? For us to still worship God from afar and burn offerings?

Now u r changing the narrative... You said images are not bibilical....I have given u passages from sacred scriptures, what else is ur point

TheArchangel:
Your arguments are without premises. When did the praying to Mary started since you knew so much about it. Meanwhile, your bible started the hailing in the gospel of Luke, Catholics are continuing from there.

like i asked ,why's mary name not in Lord's prayer?

freshboi88:


Now u r changing the narrative... You said images are not bibilical....I have given u passages from sacred scriptures, what else is ur point

there's no point changed. Why did Jesus come to the world if we're going to be honoring statues?

Proffdada:
like i asked ,why's mary name not in Lord's prayer?

You have the encyclopedia of catholic church...Mr onow it all...when did the prayers of Mary started or just shut it cos you are loosing steam.

Proffdada:
there's no point changed. Why did Jesus come to the world if we're going to be honoring statues?

hmmm, you are losing the arguments, now on a merry go round of this and that.