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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by sorepco(m): 8:29am On Oct 23, 2017 |
We honour mary.we do not worship her Chexk ur dictionary crazygod: |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by spacohill3(m): 8:30am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Pastors worshippers are saying that Catholics worship Mary, you wear your pastor's picture for protection yet the Mother Of God deserves no Honor. Elizabeth was filled with Holy Spirit just by hearing her greeting alone. People shiver with encounters with Angels but the Mighty Angel Gabriel humbles in her presence! Please celebrate GRACE ON BLESSED MOTHER and Grace will locate you(honour and not worship). |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by monex(m): 8:34am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Sanchez01: lol that was the angelus 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 8:34am On Oct 23, 2017 |
ireneidiva:no , i ask question |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:34am On Oct 23, 2017 |
PastorAIO:why do you think Jesus came as a man not a spirit? To end the sins of adam which is inherited. To give life which was lost after adam ate the fruit or what are you thinking? What is the essence of His sacrifice? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:35am On Oct 23, 2017 |
DeYoungJoe: Is that the evidence for them to start bowing, genuflecting and kneeling for images? Deut. 5 vs 8 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. Exo. 20: 4 "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. And what does "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you,....Hail Mary, mother of God Pray for us sinners now and the hour of our death" and others that are chanted on the rosary mean? And all the "Saint so and so" pray for us.... |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 8:35am On Oct 23, 2017 |
ireneidiva: no abeg you can afford to have this discussion, a mans honour is in question here. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 8:36am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107: you have brought your lies here again....pls itemise 80 percent of those doctrines |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by PastorAIO: 8:37am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Proffdada: You have a funny way of completely ducking a question and writing extensive nonsense instead. The same way Mary has sin of Adam it follows that jesus must have sin of Adam too. Obviously. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by monex(m): 8:38am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Sanchez01: you are quite right in what you consider as differences. Doctrine of "Communion with Saints) / "Intercession of Saints" Purgatory the Mary one however is usually not true as the Church considers worship of Mary (Mariolatory) to be a very grave sin |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by nokingasgod: 8:38am On Oct 23, 2017 |
I believe we all have access to God and do not need intercession by another mortal dead or alive because such mortals are in themselves saddled with their own crosses and can hardly to assist in carrying yours. We all are going to stand alone before God in judgement. Popes, Bishops, G.Os, Imams etc, to each man, his cross. There are no two ways about it. But if I have to choose between the two, I'd chose to be a Catholic where I know my little monetary contributions which I offered without compulsion and or blackmail will be channeled to further good humanitarian courses which the Catholic Church is known for over the years. Courses like education, healthcare etc. These are Goldly, Biblical and morally upright courses. I can't imagine myself in a church where I will be blackmailed into dropping more money than I could afford, where my insufficies of mundane things like money etc are made to be staring me in the face every now and then as if I'm a descendant of Judas, where moneybags are given preferential treatment without concern for the sources of such money, where the man on the pulpit and his family are the ''first family'', living in opulence and the rest of us remained cowered under them all in the name of the so called anointing which I know should be made available to all. Where the economy of the man of God grows astronomically and that of the members dwindles astronomically. Where the church in words, deeds and actions belong to one man who is the only ''anointed'' in the party and the rest will forever will remain striving for that annointing..... Most pentecostal churches I know, if not all, are nothing but SPIRITUAL FRAUD! |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:38am On Oct 23, 2017 |
SalC:who was in heaven when Jesus was on earth? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 8:39am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107: Paying money or booking mass which one cos i am confused. confession is free, anytime ,anywhere......just with this magical words....."father hear my confession" the priest will simply live anything else he his doing. PURGATORY is not for damned souls(thats hell), it is for saved souls which still need cleansing before beholding Gods glory. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 8:40am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: but same God asked for the ark of the convenant to be made and for images of palm trees to adorned the temple |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by PaddyX: 8:41am On Oct 23, 2017 |
thorpido:But Jesus is God, isn't he. There is no separation of God and man in Jesus because he is fully man and fully God. Luke 1 vs 43 spells it out clearly when Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit said Why should the mother of my LORD come to visit me. If the Holy Spirit, speaking through Elizabeth can say this, then who are you to say that Mary is not he mother of God? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by mccoyelectric: 8:42am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Let me say my own.... Most of these Catholics claim to know god... And pray to holy mother Mary as they claim... Yet wen one thing happens to them on their leg they don't go to father they call it a poison so they go to one native doctor in their villa... U see even Christ embassy members can Neva take their problem to a native doctor they will present it to the god they worship... Secondly all the blood money guys are knights in d Catholic church because of their big donations.... Y can an occultic man stay in mfm, or redeem... Because the fire is there... So to me Catholic churches has no fire burning in dem anymore... Bible say light n darkness v nothing in common |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:42am On Oct 23, 2017 |
PastorAIO:if i answer you without explaining you'll be confused |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Joemetry(m): 8:44am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Let's start here: you can read the entire book of Ezra too, it has good information regarding confession. though a whole lot of other books have too... Question #1. Why do Catholics believe that they need to confess their sins to a priest rather than just pray over it? A: We Catholics confess to a priest for a few reasons--. I will start with Scripture and say that in John 20:21-23- Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." Jesus is commissioning his Apostles to continue His work. He is giving them authority to mediate between God and humankind. The Latin phrase "In Persona Christi" translates to "In the person of Christ". Therefore, the priests are acting through Christ. They are not another Christ, but they are doing what was instructed of the Apostles by Jesus Christ before His Ascension into Heaven. The Apostles being the first priests of the Church, passed this on to the priests throughout time. While the forgiveness of sins comes fully from the sacrifice of Jesus at Calvary, confession to a priest is important because we are asking Jesus directly, through the priest, who is in Persona Christi, and mediating between us and the Lord. -- Humility is another strong reason to go Confession with the Catholic priest. I know as a Catholic, that my Confession is between me and God, but having the priest there, hearing me and responding and advising, just as Jesus would do, makes the Confession so much more spiritually deep. Not only am I face to face, but I am embarrassed and I am ashamed. It is in this moment of total humility and penitence, that I can open my heart and soul to the Lord Jesus Christ and all my sin is wiped clean. This overwhelming feeling of purity and closeness to God, leads me to receive Sacramental Grace. -- Sacramental Grace is the grace that is bestowed upon someone who is receiving a particular Sacrament. It is a sanctifying grace in which a person becomes closer to God by fully accepting, with a pure heart, the divinity of the Sacrament. The Sacraments are "Instituted by Christ" and that is why when we receive our Sacraments in a devout and honest way, there is a grace that is bestowed on us that is distinctly "sacramental" . The sacramental grace that is given during the Sacrament of Reconciliation is a protection against sin. It is there to erase sin and help to resist the occasion of sin. So, Catholics confess to a priest because of the Sacrament of Reconciliation which was one of seven Sacraments that Jesus Christ instructed the Church to provide for His followers. This is referenced in this Scripture passage: John 20:21-23- Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, " Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." Jesus is asking His apostles to take up where he left off. He is asking this after being Resurrected from the dead. Also, it is stated here that the Apostles are to hear and discern what is a sin worthy of forgiveness. We are only going to be forgiven if we are truly penitent and sorry. He is wanting the intercession of the Apostles (i.e. first priest of the Church) acting through Christ. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Kenerd: 8:46am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Kenerd:I already did rhektor. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by thorpido(m): 8:47am On Oct 23, 2017 |
gemale:Refuse to be ignorant! When Mary dwelth on the earth,she played the role of Jesus'(the man) mother and could physically relate with Him and intercede or advise as it were.Jesus has been called to glory and Mary also dead.In heaven,it's a different ball game. Jesus taught about heavenly order when some Sadducees came asking Him about marriage in heaven.See below; Then the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to him with a question. 19 “Teacher,, “Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother. 20 Now there were seven brothers. The first one married and died without leaving any children. 21 The second one married the widow, but he also died, leaving no child. It was the same with the third. 22 In fact, none of the seven left any children. Last of all, the woman died too. 23 At the resurrection[c] whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?” 24 Jesus replied, “Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25 When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 26 Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the Book of Moses, in the account of the burning bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[d]? 27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!” Mark 12 vs 18-27 Take note of the part in bold.People in heaven do not play roles of wives or husbands.Similarly,they do not play roles of mothers or sons. Mary plays NO ROLE of mother to Jesus in Heaven.Like you said,'get understanding' according to the book of Proverbs. Quit emotions,sentiments or outright ignorance and embrace Scriptures!Don't be like Muslims who think of wives and virgins in heaven.It's a different order in heaven. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Nosikebit(m): 8:49am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Proffdada:what do you know? The catholic birthed other dominations, so ask ur dull self if not for catholics dont u think u would hv been a muslim or pegan |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 8:49am On Oct 23, 2017 |
ashawopikin: Thus is dumb....pls show me and I'll show u plenty other places immersion was not used |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by tete7000(m): 8:51am On Oct 23, 2017 |
femi4: They planted as part of an existing church, not as individual free enterprise. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 8:52am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar:Paying money for guys in purgatory to enter heaven. And i had to really research and find out where the Catholic Church got that doctrine from, I saw it. I'm sure you don't even know it's origin but you go on propagating it. We need to investigate our doctrines else we'll be worshiping satan in disguise. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:52am On Oct 23, 2017 |
PaddyX:who was on the throne in heaven when Jesus was on earth? If Jesus is God why does He have to sit on the right hand side of God? Where in the Bible Jesus called Himself God? Why did God call Jesus His begotten Son? Support you claim with bible evidence and not what you think. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by PastorAIO: 8:53am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Proffdada: I didn't say you shouldn't explain, all I ask is that you answer the question. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 8:53am On Oct 23, 2017 |
thorpido: Your ignorance is legendary...First u say God refers to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as living and yet u refer to Mary as dead....can u reconcile this |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 8:54am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar:You are quick to call people names even when you are in the wrong. What in Catholicism is Biblical? Is it the mentioning of the name Jesus or what? Olumba mentions Jesus, but we know it's a charade. Catholicism is a distinct religion and not Christianity. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by pahzz(m): 8:55am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Sanchez01:Have you ever heard a catholic say "In Mary's name we pray", I doubt. It's always "In Jesus name we pray". |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 8:57am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Nosikebit:lol! Why were people burned at stake by the catholic? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 8:57am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Dnaz:You are a funny little guy full of assumptions. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by PaddyX: 9:00am On Oct 23, 2017 |
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