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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 10:19am On Oct 23, 2017 |
dingbang:Yes of course.I said my issue with Catholicism is the doctrine where supposedly good works will affect one's judgment before God. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 10:19am On Oct 23, 2017 |
The words 'Bible believing' takes so much importance in Christianity that we often forget it is not the first thing needed to be a Christian. Nowadays, the bible and the pastors/priests that interpret them have become more important than God. Secondly, the catholic church is not sola scriptura (by scripture alone), she teaches that the sacred scripture work hand in hand with traditions which is also part of the revelation about Jesus passed down from the time of the Apostles. Hence some of what catholics do is part of tradition because she does not derive the certainty of all revealed truths from the holy scriptures alone. Can we stop bashing ourselves on the contents of the Bible? Does it not baffle you all that the bible is open to different interpretations? It is because it contains within itself many disagreements about particular issues and it should be expected since it was written by [/b]different people[b], translated by [/b]different people[b] and compiled by [/b]different people.[b] However, the core points, despite contradictions, remain the greatness of YAHWEH, the teachings of Jesus and the goal of saving mankind. Please note that the catholic church uses the Bible everyday, they do not worship Mary or any idol. The images play no role in their worship, though it works the same way we put pictures in our home and erect statues, to reverence, and honour. However, some Catholics overdo things, and the church frown at mariolatry and bibliolatry. The catholic church continues to evolve but not as some would want on different issues. In conclusion, a proper research on Protestant Christianity will reveal that ironically, some protestant churches stay away from the claim of 'bible believing' because some churches have elevated the bible above God. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Tellemall: 10:20am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar: Good you've observed that God himself asked them to. But who commanded the Catholics to? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by sonature1: 10:20am On Oct 23, 2017 |
UAE123: Kindly show me where this is in the Bible: "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death." Thank you. Please I want to learn. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:23am On Oct 23, 2017 |
femi4:there were no denominations, the same Church that Paul panted was the same church apollos watered it seems you have a problem with comprehension |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:25am On Oct 23, 2017 |
femi4: Jesus was baptized in a river, why not say it must be a river too |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:26am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Beey: what would you be judged on on the last day? where does your Bible teach faith ALONE saves? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:28am On Oct 23, 2017 |
thorpido: I didn't c NY scripture that backed ur crooked interpretation of been mother of Jesus ending wen she died.....show me were d bible said tht |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 10:31am On Oct 23, 2017 |
freshboi88: Some churches insist it must be a flowing river. I am only amazed that I have not heard anyone insist it must be river jordan. That would be epic. Chaplain in war zones sometimes don't get water to baptize soldiers about to die! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by thorpido(m): 10:32am On Oct 23, 2017 |
PaddyX:Jesus is God in glory.The problem is not about who Jesus is. Mary was the mother of Jesus(the man) while He was on the earth. Now(in heaven)Mary PLAYS NO ROLE as the mother of Jesus.Read Mark 12 to see what Jesus says about people in heaven.There is no wife,no husband,no mother or son. There is no Scriptural basis for Mary to be the 'mother of God'.She was the mother of Jesus (the man) while He was on the earth. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by zaragoza(m): 10:37am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Proffdada: going by what u just said, then what Jesus doesn't condemn cannot be condemned by any man. Show me were Jesus condemned Blessed Virgin Mary for saying 'henceforth, all generations shall call me blessed' U were asking were Jesus hailed Mary or called her mother. But God hailed Mary through his angel Gabriel or are u saying that Jesus is not God? even Elizabeth filled with the holy spirit said that Mary was blessed amongst women and she even went ahead to call her "mother of my lord" what else are u looking for Mr? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 10:38am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Beey:I want to believe not only catholics but every other people believe That self righeteousness is a sin |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by thorpido(m): 10:39am On Oct 23, 2017 |
freshboi88:Proverbs says 'get (spiritual)understanding'. Go back again and read what I wrote.Before you do ask God to give you understanding.If you read and still don't understand,ask Him for understanding again before you sleep this night. Re-read it again tomorrow. The problem here is 'understanding'. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:40am On Oct 23, 2017 |
femi4: This is ridiculous....so were does this say, it must be done this way........guess u added that part |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:42am On Oct 23, 2017 |
thorpido: I am looking for were the bible said, when Mary died she stopped been the mother of Jesus....that's what u said..........show !e and stop foaming from the mouth |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by makoota: 10:42am On Oct 23, 2017 |
amunkita:All things are not in the bible. Catholics have rich culture that formed part of their doctrine. There re many things not recorded in the bible, even the bible states so. If you have a problem with the title Queen of Heaven, the mother of king Jesus should be a Queen. Mary has done so much more than you can think of in Christendom. Even as at present she has been calling for repentance, penance and prayer for the sins of the world that is offending the Heavenly father. God have used her to prevent many wars in history. The battle of Lepanto for example that the Moors waged against Christians in 1671. The soldiers fought that warbeen backed up with the prayers of the holy rosary. If that war was won by the Moors. There couldnt be Christians in Africa because the whole of Europe could have turned Islam. Also, is the first and second world war. You can browse of the apparition of fatima. You can read it up on ur own. PLS DO NOT SPEAK AGAINST THE HOLY VIRGIN MARY FOR YOU HAVE LIMITED KNOWLEDGE AGAINST HER. IF GOD HIMSELF HAS HONOURED HER, PLS DONT DISHONOUR HER. "ALLGENERATIONS SHALL CALL ME BLESSED" |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:44am On Oct 23, 2017 |
thorpido: So Jesus on earth is different from Jesus in heaven |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:46am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Neminc:and where is is written in your Bible that all Christian practice and doctrine are mentioned there |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 10:46am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Ubenedictus:Faith in Jesus & repentance of sin.Rom.10:9-10 "
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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by zaragoza(m): 10:46am On Oct 23, 2017 |
ireneidiva: what lot of other things and prayers did the new pope change? The Pope b4 pope Francis changed some responses eg. before in the Catholic Church when the priest says to the congregation "the Lord be with u", the congregation responds "and also with u" but pope benedict changed the response to "and with ur spirit" so now if the priest says 'the Lord be with u' we respond 'and with ur spirit'. so if that's what u mean by change of doctrine then clearly u don't know the meaning of doctrine as it relates to religion. So pls ma, I wld like to know the other things the new pope changed |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 10:46am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107: please i still do not understand you...pay for which money...... what i know is mass booking.......so please come out clean |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:47am On Oct 23, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: where is it started that doctrine must be Bible based? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 10:48am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: you asking catholics who commanded them to adorn the church with paintings and images of the christian faith from the painting of the creation to the ressurection or the paintings of the holy family or the last supper? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:48am On Oct 23, 2017 |
asuustrike2009:you are the one who said you never pray in those rooms, I should be asking you that question |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by thorpido(m): 10:49am On Oct 23, 2017 |
freshboi88:Different is realms. On the earth,Jesus had a body.Now He dwells as a Spirit.Spirits don't have mothers. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 10:50am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107: you have still failed to itemise one of those fake doctrines. Catholics do not call jesus name in charade.this what catholics believe in. The Apostles Creed I believe in God, the Father almighty, (Mt 5 :45) Creator of heaven and earth, (Gen 1:1; Rom 1:20) And in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord, (Mt 3:17; Phil 2:12) Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, (Lk 1:35) born of the Virgin Mary, (Lk 2:7) suffered under Pontius Pilate, (Jn 19:16) was crucified, died, and was buried. (Jn 19:29 – 42) He descended into hell; (1 Pet 3:19 – 20) on the third day He rose again from the dead, (Mt 28:1-10; Jn 20:11-18) He ascended in heaven, (Lk 24:51) and sits at the right hand of God, (Heb 1:3) the Father almighty; (Mk 14:36) from thence He shall come again (Mt 16: 27; Acts 10:39) to judge the living and the dead. (1 Cor 15: 51) I believe in the Holy Spirit, (Jn 14:15 – 20; Acts 1:7 – ![]() the Holy Catholic Church, (Mt 16:18 – 19; Eph 5:26-27; Col 1:24) the communion of Saints, (Mt 28:19 – 20; 2 Cor 11:13; 1 Cor 15: 33) the forgiveness of sins, (Jn 20:22 – 23) the resurrection of the body, (1Cor 15:51 – 54; 1 Thes 4:13 – 18) and life everlasting. (1 Jn 5:20) Amen. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by enemyofprogress: 10:50am On Oct 23, 2017 |
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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 10:50am On Oct 23, 2017 |
dingbang:Ye, true.Byt there's no self-righteousness here.We are just discussing a topic which you started with scriptural backing. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Tellemall: 10:50am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar: Yes. Christians of old didn't do that religious display. You live Christianity, not display it Plus, the main issue which you've not responded to, though you brought it up, is: As the Israelites of old were told to build an ark for God, who told the Catholics to make images of Mary? I |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 10:51am On Oct 23, 2017 |
sonature1: it is not in the bible as it was a prayer made by the church as the second part of the hail mary. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 10:54am On Oct 23, 2017 |
zaragoza:was Jesus there when it was mentioned? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 10:55am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: ohhh na mary own dey bug you, the images of the apostles and saints no bug you. please read about the history of sacred arts |
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