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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 10:55am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Beey: 2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. Verse Concepts 1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from God. Verse Concepts 1 Peter 1:17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one's work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth; Verse Concepts Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. Verse Concepts Psalm 62:12 And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord, For You recompense a man according to his work. Verse Concepts Proverbs 24:12 If you say, "See, we did not know this," Does He not consider it who weighs the hearts? And does He not know it who keeps your soul? And will He not render to man according to his work? Verse Concepts Colossians 3:25 For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality. Verse Concepts |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 10:56am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Beey:and I am trying to make u understand that catholics don't believe that only works will be sufficient to attain heaven... You ain't a Catholic so you don't have the right to tell us what we don't do after we have made u understand that we don't do such |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 10:57am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar:a prayer formed by men after discarding the Lord's prayer |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 10:58am On Oct 23, 2017 |
thorpido: Heresy Jesus rose with his body.....wen d apostles got yo the tomb....he body was no longer der...be fooling urself with ur false teaching |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Tellemall: 10:59am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar: You brought it up. If you can't answer it because it will shake the foundations of your faith, don't try and divert it. You said that the Israelites were told by God to make an ark. It's well recorded. But who commanded you to do the sacred arts and make images of Mary? Remember the golden calf? And Jeroboam? Nobody told them to, and you can read for yourself the end results. Sacred arts indeed. How sacred it is for you to imagine what Jesus and Mary looked like, and fashion them in your own image and then adore and worship them, when you were not given the divine commandment to. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 10:59am On Oct 23, 2017 |
dingbang:LOL, you are getting angry and yet you started this topic so that people can discuss.In a discussion, you hear things that you'd want to hear & others you wouldn't wanna hear.Sonif you weren't ready to hear people's opinions, why start this topic? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:00am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Proffdada: hah ha hah haha hha, you guys just wake up and assume. The Communion Rite The eating and drinking together of the Lord’s Body and Blood in a Paschal meal is the culmination of the Eucharist. The themes underlying these rites are the mutual love and reconciliation that are both the condition and the fruit of worthy communion and the unity of the many in the One. The Lord’s Prayer The congregation stands and the Priest says: At the Saviour’s command and formed by divine teaching, we dare to say: Together with the people, he continues: Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. The Priest alone continues, saying: Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil, graciously grant peace in our days, that, by the help of your mercy, we may be always free from sin and safe from all distress, as we await the blessed hope and the coming of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. The people conclude the prayer, acclaiming: For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours now and for ever. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:01am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: shake which foundations is it form the fish symbol for christ or the chi-rho. please read up the history of sacred arts. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 11:01am On Oct 23, 2017 |
sonature1: It is not in the Bible. It was added later and approved by a catholic council. The catholic church is not sola scriptura, i.e. it does not do things by the bible alone! It takes into consideration, tradition and inspiration. Do you think the Holy Spirit stopped inspiring people after the writers of the literatures compiled into today's Bible? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Tellemall: 11:03am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar: You cannot answer the question. Simple. All your diversions are pointless. Who commanded you to do the sacred arts? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Ubenedictus(m): 11:03am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Beey:I thought you said Faith alone now you change mouth when you find alone to be unbiblical. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 11:06am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar:Guy, i'm not here to exchange words with you, You are not talking to someone who was born Pentecostal. I was deep into Catholicism, so i know what i'm talking about. I was in that same position you are right now defending the paganistic practices of Catholicism until Christ by Himself drew me out. Keep projecting idol worship, you shall stand to defend it before the White Throne Judgement. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:07am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: READ HISTORY OF SACRED ARTS....NNNA ISNT THAT ENOUGH ANSWER
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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:08am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107: well i am here to tell you what the catholics believe in |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Didov1(f): 11:09am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107:lol,u r funny,correcting someone with insult is also a correction,well correcting someone living in error and judging someone are 2 different thing dear,i will still say this again GOD WONT ASK FOR THE NAME OF YOUR CHURCH ON JUDGEMENT DAY,JST LIVE RIGHT AND LEAVE THE REST FOR GOD TO JUDGE. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 11:09am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Ubenedictus:I didn't change anything.My stand was clear.In your teachings you believe that the good deeds you do here will save you.But the Bible is clear it's salvation through faith which involves confessing that Jesus is Lord.Shall good deeds be rewarded? Absolutely.But they solely can't earn you salvation. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Tellemall: 11:12am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar: Who commanded you to? When the children of Israel had fallen into the worship of the golden calves, when they were asked, at least they had the integrity to point at who told them to. They didn't begin to talk about refining gold. Who commanded you to make images of Mary and adore and worship them? Art has been alive and well for millennia. But who told you to do that? You point out that God commanded the Israelites to make an ark. Yet you can't back your idol worship up with Divinity. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 11:12am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Beey:first of all.. Look through all the pages in this thread and check if I argued with anyone .... You are the only person who got my attention ![]() |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 11:15am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Didov1:Hmmmm. Is God also against REBUKE? you seem to be mistaking rebuke from judgement. Catholics are quick to point out 'Don't judge' when they are called out for their errors, but fail to point out that we as Christians are enjoined to rebuke error openly. Apostle Paul rebuked Peter for his errors, what will you say to that, did he judge him? Shd you be left to die in your error? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 11:17am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar:So, not all Catholics know what Catholics believe in? Guy, enjoy your idolatry, The White Throne Judgment seat shall determine. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:19am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: YES THEY DID worship that god of fertility....and God asked them to sacrifice animals(calfs) in defiance to that same God. the idea of worship is all forms of worship goes to God the creator of heaven and earth. thats why the ark of the covenant(an image also) was so sacred because it represents the presence of God among the Israelites and also all forms of venerations before it brought worship to God. Remember why micah was cursed? God also instructed his temple to be adorned with images of palms.and he accepted all offerings from that temple(Solomons offerings). putting up paintings of the history of christian salvation can be traced back to the early church and fathers. WHICH WAS WHY I SAID READ UP ABOUT THE HISTORY OF SACRED ARTS. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by femi4: 11:19am On Oct 23, 2017 |
freshboi88:didn't you see he went up from water Check the meaning of the word baptizo, its not English BTW When the apostles wrote the New Testament in Greek, they used the following words: (I) cheo meaning "to pour" (2) rantidzo meaningz "to sprinkle" (3) baptizo meaning "to immerse" or "to dip. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:20am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107:YOU SAID you were once a catholic...so how can you be one when you are not one anymore? |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by femi4: 11:21am On Oct 23, 2017 |
freshboi88:Check the source of water where subsequent baptism were done by the apostle Act 8:38 in Acts 8. Philip teaching Christianity to the Ethiopian eunuch. When the eunuch asked to be baptized, he and Philip " . . . went down both into the water" (v.38) for baptism. And when they were finished ". . . they were come up out of the water As you can see Philip carried this particular baptism in a "pool of water",. As you can see, the source of water is unknown. Its not compulsory it has to be a river. What was emphatic in all instances sighted was that they needed " pool of water " to perform baptism. If Baptism is by sprinkling, there is no point going down the water |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Tellemall: 11:25am On Oct 23, 2017 |
blackbriar: Your first line is the end of this. Bye. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 11:33am On Oct 23, 2017 |
Tellemall: IT Is the end of what? is the ark of the convenant a demi-god? are the palm tress demi gods? is the painting of christ passion and ressurection not about the messiah works and reminds us daily about our christiAN FAITH. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by urbanemind(m): 11:36am On Oct 23, 2017 |
HungerBAD:people bn carrying catholic matters on their head like dandruff for ages,, when will people learn to mind their business ,,. if its idolatory how does it affect u?? u re not catholic , why not face whatever u worship and leave catholics to theirs. pock nosing other peoples affair is the major cause of crises all over d world. if only people will learn to stay on their lane.. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Didov1(f): 11:36am On Oct 23, 2017 |
analice107:did paul insult peter when rebuking him,jst reread what i wrote up there,sims u jst read 2 lines nd rush to comment,m nt against you correcting a fellow christian,m nt here to argue with you,whichever way u wish to understand my message,thats up to you,i know someone else understand what i wrote.gooday |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by urbanemind(m): 11:38am On Oct 23, 2017 |
amunkita:then dont.. leave those who do to their faith..simple |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ireneidiva(f): 11:39am On Oct 23, 2017 |
zaragoza:Oh, you people have finally agreed that he changed something. You see yourselves. No further comments. I don't preach church. |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by SalC: 11:55am On Oct 23, 2017 |
zaragoza: Funny but the Pope didn't even change the responses. What happened was that those who first translated those responses from Latin to English did it but it did not correspond exactly to what the Latin translation is. Eg the response " and also with you" was from the Latin response " et cum spiritu tuo" but the most accurate translation of this Latin response is "and with your spirit" If I remember correctly it wasn't even the Pope who ordered the correction precisely but the congregation for the doctrine of divine worship. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 11:57am On Oct 23, 2017 |
femi4: The thing of note in baptism by water is water .....the Catholic church doesn't perform baptism by sprinkling.....it does it by pouring..... |
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