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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 11:57am On Oct 23, 2017
Didov1:
did paul insult peter when rebuking him,jst reread what i wrote up there,sims u jst read 2 lines nd rush to comment,m nt against you correcting a fellow christian,m nt here to argue with you,whichever way u wish to understand my message,thats up to you,i know someone else understand what i wrote.gooday
Hmmm, i have read this thread from the start, all folks have pointed out are the Catholic errors, pls where are the insults?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 11:59am On Oct 23, 2017
blackbriar:

YOU SAID you were once a catholic...so how can you be one when you are not one anymore?
Read this your comment again.

I WAS A CATHOLIC, BUT NOT ANYMORE. I KNOW ALL ABOUT IT.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by blackbriar: 12:05pm On Oct 23, 2017
analice107:

Read this your comment again.

I WAS A CATHOLIC, BUT NOT ANYMORE. I KNOW ALL ABOUT IT.

that is what you claimed in every anti-catholic posts before they found you out.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by SalC: 12:05pm On Oct 23, 2017
Proffdada:
who was in heaven when Jesus was on earth?

Except you don't believe God is omni present, this question shouldn't even arise.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by analice107: 12:07pm On Oct 23, 2017
blackbriar:


that is what you claimed in every anti-catholic posts before they found you out.
Before they found me out as what? A thief or a murderer? Do you lack expressions?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 12:08pm On Oct 23, 2017
blackbriar:


hah ha hah haha hha, you guys just wake up and assume.

The Communion Rite

The eating and drinking together of the Lord’s Body and Blood in a Paschal meal is the culmination of the Eucharist. The themes underlying these rites are the mutual love and reconciliation that are both the condition and the fruit of worthy communion and the unity of the many in the One.

The Lord’s Prayer

The congregation stands and the Priest says:

At the Saviour’s command
and formed by divine teaching, we dare to say:
Together with the people, he continues:

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
The Priest alone continues, saying:

Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil,
graciously grant peace in our days,
that, by the help of your mercy,
we may be always free from sin
and safe from all distress,
as we await the blessed hope
and the coming of our Saviour, Jesus Christ.
The people conclude the prayer, acclaiming:

For the kingdom,
the power and the glory are yours
now and for ever.
where does mary come in ? In all the teachings of Jesus christ was hailing mentioned? Even the bealtitude didn't refer to hailing or honoring mary. Please drop the fetish practice of idolatry the romans imbued into catholic and embrace Christ wholly
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 12:10pm On Oct 23, 2017
femi4:
Check the source of water where subsequent baptism were done by the apostle

Act 8:38

in Acts 8. Philip teaching Christianity to the Ethiopian eunuch. When the eunuch asked to be baptized, he and Philip " . . . went down both into the water" (v.38) for baptism. And when they were finished ". . . they were come up out of the water

As you can see Philip carried this particular baptism in a "pool of water",. As you can see, the source of water is unknown. Its not compulsory it has to be a river.

What was emphatic in all instances sighted was that they needed " pool of water " to perform baptism. If Baptism is by sprinkling, there is no point going down the water

So assuming u r a pastor and u have a dying sick person who is bed ridren in his last moment, asking for baptism.....are u saying such a person cannot be baptized
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Proffdada: 12:12pm On Oct 23, 2017
SalC:


Except you don't believe God is omni present, this question shouldn't even arise.

that's why Jesus is the son of God and not God.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by urbanemind(m): 12:17pm On Oct 23, 2017
virtuedagirl:
I attended a Catholic secondary school
And some of the practice I notice are:
Praying to Mary to supplicate on their behalf.
Asking some saints to prayer for them.
Praying with the rosary.
Stations of the cross praying with them and abstaining from eaten meat on some of the days during lent season but fish.
Bowing to statutes and praying at such places,their pattern of water baptism cos even Jesus undergo immersion baptism and the likes most of these can't be traced to the bible.
i almost thought u had sense..
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by PaddyX: 12:18pm On Oct 23, 2017
Proffdada:
smiley your answer is very funny grin but still you've not answered. You're just supporting my question. Why will Jesus sit on the right hand of God if He's God? Why pray to the Father when He's Father?
This is a very simple matter smiley smiley smiley. Just put a little effort into understanding it. Now read carefully
1. Jesus is seated at the right hand of THE FATHER
1. Jesus is not God the Father, but he is God the Son
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by SalC: 12:23pm On Oct 23, 2017
Proffdada:
that's why Jesus is the son of God and not God.

No. That God is omni present is not the reason Jesus is the son of God and not God according to you, rather it can be a good reason why Jesus is God who can be both in heaven and on earth at the same time.
But if you are saying Jesus isn't God, would you mind telling me why he was prophesied to be the EVERLASTING FATHER in Isaiah 9:6?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 12:24pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
first of all.. Look through all the pages in this thread and check if I argued with anyone .... You are the only person who got my attention smiley
LOL.I cannot change your beliefs & that's not my intention.You brought up a topic to be discussed.I said that yes the Catholics believe in the Bible coz I have two in my family, dad & lil sis.But I said my issue with them is doctrines.I stated the doctrines like every one else.People came up with arguments against my comments and of course I had to respond. grin
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by femi4: 12:28pm On Oct 23, 2017
freshboi88:


So assuming u r a pastor and u have a dying sick person who is bed ridren in his last moment, asking for baptism.....are u saying such a person cannot be baptized
You don't ask to be baptized, you asked to be save. Confession is made unto Salvation. Water baptism doesn't save you from sins. Its a symbolic representation of being death to sin and resurrected in Jesus Christ. Jesus did it to fulfill all righteousness.

If that person dies without being baptized, he's still make heaven provided that he's saved

That's why the apostle focus more on baptism of the holy ghost
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 12:30pm On Oct 23, 2017
Beey:
LOL.I cannot change your beliefs & that's not my intention.You brought up a topic to be discussed.I said that yes the Catholics believe in the Bible coz I have two in my family, dad & lil sis.But I said my issue with them is doctrines.I stated the doctrines like every one else.People came up with arguments against my comments and of course I had to respond. grin
well to me I saw it as fun because most of the comments were amusing. Seeing people quarreling...

You don't need to change my beliefs sha... I am a free thinker.. In a good way
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by SalC: 12:36pm On Oct 23, 2017
Proffdada:
where does mary come in ? In all the teachings of Jesus christ was hailing mentioned? Even the bealtitude didn't refer to hailing or honoring mary. Please drop the fetish practice of idolatry the romans imbued into catholic and embrace Christ wholly

Now this is what I find funny about arguments here.

You made mention of the Catholic church dropping the Lord's prayer and he took time to quote the Lord's prayer said during Holy Mass, instead of acknowledging that you were mistaken, you jumped into asking where hailing Mary was mentioned.

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Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Beey(f): 12:37pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
well to me I saw it as fun because most of the comments were amusing. Seeing people quarreling...

You don't need to change my beliefs sha... I am a free thinker.. In a good way
Why did you even bring up the topic?You know such topics must lead to arguments and someone will be offended.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 12:40pm On Oct 23, 2017
Beey:
Why did you even bring up the topic?You know such topics must lead to arguments and someone will be offended.
cuz I was bored.... embarassed


Secondly.. I was toasting one girl oo... Told her I am a catholic.. She said no we can't date that we are not bible believers... I was like... Are you high.... I just blocked the girl. Judging someone onto their religion ain't cool because I don't even do that...
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by Kenerd: 12:40pm On Oct 23, 2017
INDUSTRIALFAN:
you re wrong on the missal. No book in d bible was removed. The missal is actually the exact scriptures from the bible arranged in a way that from 1st January to 31st December, you will have read every word in the bible. Every word and letter from genesis to revelations is in the missal.
Bruh, I am an ex Catholic and never have I seen the 2nd set of ten commandments being read in church.
PS: The church cycles through the Bible every 3 years not annually.
Year A, B, C.
Edit: I forgot to add, 3 years for Sunday cycles and 2 years( Year A, B) if you attend Mass everyday.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 12:45pm On Oct 23, 2017
femi4:
You don't ask to be baptized, you asked to be save. Confession is made unto Salvation. Water baptism doesn't save you from sins. Its a symbolic representation of being death to sin and resurrected in Jesus Christ. Jesus did it to fulfill all righteousness.

That's why the apostle focus more on baptism of the holy ghost

Oga u have finished spewing all ur gibberish...... Now let me school u. Act 9:18 floors that nonsense u said that baptism must be done in a pool of water.....

Secondly water baptism washes away original sin, Jesus did it to show us an example, that we need to be baptized to wash away original sin
1 peter 3:
21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 12:48pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
well to me I saw it as fun because most of the comments were amusing. Seeing people quarreling...

You don't need to change my beliefs sha... I am a free thinker.. In a good way

Ok, you are a free thinker, which one is 'in a good way'? Is there a bad way?

Are you one of those who are afraid to go to hell but can't bother themselves with religion?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by SalC: 12:49pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
cuz I was bored.... embarassed


Secondly.. I was toasting one girl oo... Told her I am a catholic.. She said no we can't date that we are not bible believers... I was like... Are you high.... I just blocked the girl. Judging someone onto their religion ain't cool because I don't even do that...

Can't stop laughing cheesy

You because a girl bounced you for being Catholic, you came here to cause e-war grin bro you need exorcism sharp sharp.

Can you imagine? 22 pages in less than 24 hrs. Lol
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 12:49pm On Oct 23, 2017
SalC:


Can't stop laughing cheesy

You because a girl bounced you for being Catholic, you came here to cause e-war grin bro you need exorcism sharp sharp.

Can you imagine? 22 pages in less than 24 hrs. Lol
hahahahaha....
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 12:50pm On Oct 23, 2017
ladman:


Ok, you are a free thinker, which one is 'in a good way'? Is there a bad way?

Are you one of those who are afraid to go to hell but can't bother themselves with religion?

afraid to go to hell ke... Who wants to die in hell ni?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by thorpido(m): 12:57pm On Oct 23, 2017
freshboi88:


Heresy Jesus rose with his body.....wen d apostles got yo the tomb....he body was no longer der...be fooling urself with ur false teaching
Dey dia dey satisfy yourself.Nobody has an earthly body in heaven.It is a mortal body that cannot inherit immortality.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 12:58pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
afraid to go to hell ke... Who wants to die in hell ni?

So Mr freethinker, you believe there is heaven and hell?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 12:58pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
afraid to go to hell ke... Who wants to die in hell ni?

So Mr freethinker, you believe there is heaven and hell?
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by dingbang(m): 12:59pm On Oct 23, 2017
ladman:


So Mr freethinker, you believe there is heaven and hell?
yep... That's why I said "in a good way"
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 1:00pm On Oct 23, 2017
thorpido:
Dey dia dey satisfy yourself.Nobody has an earthly body in heaven.It is a mortal body that cannot inherit immortality.

Thorpido get experience o, thorpido don go heaven come back to reach this conclusion.
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 1:02pm On Oct 23, 2017
thorpido:
Dey dia dey satisfy yourself.Nobody has an earthly body in heaven.It is a mortal body that cannot inherit immortality.

Jesus doesnt have his earthly body, and Thomas was able to feel his flesh, his hands, his sides....my friend go and hide urself in shame..ur trying to defend d indefensible just shows how ignorant u r....
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by femi4: 1:02pm On Oct 23, 2017
freshboi88:


Oga u have finished spewing all ur gibberish...... Now let me school u. Act 9:18 floors that nonsense u said that baptism must be done in a pool of water.....

Secondly water baptism washes away original sin, Jesus did it to show us an example, that we need to be baptized to wash away original sin
1 peter 3:
21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.
lol, you quoted Act 9:18 but you couldn't type it out. I smell foul play

2. Baptism doesn't wash away sins, its a symbolic representation after confession of sin and believe in Jesus

3. Jesus did it to fulfil all righteousness. If it was compulsory, how come all his disciples didn't go through the process

4. Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized ......not the other way round.

ROM 10:9-10
9If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by freshboi88: 1:03pm On Oct 23, 2017
ladman:


Thorpido get experience o, thorpido don go heaven come back to reach this conclusion.

E get were person go defend nonsense reach, e go just be like mumu...no insult intended
Re: Why Do Pentecostals Believe That Catholic Church Is Not A Bible Believing Church by ladman(m): 1:06pm On Oct 23, 2017
dingbang:
yep... That's why I said "in a good way"

Your definition of freethinking is out of this world. You are not a freethinker! Maybe a trouble maker for starting this e-fight.

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