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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:40pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
forgiveness: Lol... are you talking of yourself? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:44pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
forgiveness: Simon does not have the capacity to make those touches and moves Iwobi made. Simon knows only one way to play: puts his head down, takes on any defender that comes his way and pull out a cross hoping that any of the strikers would be in a position to score. Wings play has gone beyond that. I am sure you watched the great George Finidi play. Tijani Babangida himself had to adjust to how Finidi played just that TJ was more pacey and more direct. Simon has the pace but he is not even direct.Always playing himself into tight spaces. Ahmed Musa has the pace and he is direct but some times it will seem he left his brains behind while running. I am a natural winger. I will know a great winger when I see him. Iwobi's type of winger/AM will really go places. Simon's kind of winger will only do well at youths level but will fail to progress as he ages. Have you noticed his current stagnation? To me he has not improved since he graduated to the Super Eagles. Samuel Chukwueze is another kind of Winger that can be devastating. I hope he is well groomed in a good club. He can be totally unplayable on his good day. He runs very well, takes on defenders, direct and has good eyes for goals. 8 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:48pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
forgiveness: Simon did excellent in his first year but he has not built on it. Onyekeru appears to be building his reputation and will cause more ripples in world football today. By the way, Onyekuru was nominated for the Ebony award. Top 5. He was also third in the youth player of the year award. This guy played for a team that was supposed to be relegated. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:51pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Statistics say no they don't play the same role. I saw him played LM too, can I say that is what i saw from the games I saw? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:51pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
forgiveness:this coming from the person who claimed S. Moses is worth £20 million 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 2:51pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Icon4s:and it seems rohr prefers him likes that...and that also suits the gaffers tactics...cos explain to me how he has played almost every match under the German manger while ur onyekuru looks on from his plastic television screens and iwobi comes from the bench?? If u 're questioning Moses Simons ability and style of play?? Why don't u question vic Moses 's cos I think they have similar style of play... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:57pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
tbaba1234: So, why are some clubs chasing after Simon Moses? You didn't get to know because he has yet to force his way out, like Onyekuru did. We are talking about 2nd best, you are talking about top 5. We are talking about winning titles, you are talking about relegation struggles. Ok, Simon was also in top 10 young player of the year. I maintain, Simon Moses has achieved more than Onyekuru in club level. Kpom! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:58pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
krattoss: I am not comparing Onyekuru with Simon. Infact, presently I will pick Simon over Onyekuru for various reasons. My point is Simon himself is not even supposed to be a starting material for the Super Eagles. Recall Iwobi was injured ahead of the Cameroon clash which was why Simon Started. And going into the Zambia game, Rohr refused to change a winning team, which I also agreed to. Go back to the games where Victor Moses and Iwobi were present whether Simon started. To me he is more of a back up in the absence of Iwobi and V. Moses. And he needs to grow his game and be more versatile. He doesn't play like a modern winger. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:04pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Icon4s:I can only laugh @ the bolded.. Like seriously, Simon no deserve eagles start Some one that has been starting right from the days I oliseh?? Tell me who derserves eagles start Mr coach 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:05pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
safarigirl: Do I look like Gent's Manager Michael louwagie who said Simon Moses worth 20 million euros? Direct your statement to him not me, please. Gent Manager Tells West Brom & Monaco – Moses Simon Is Worth €20m May 5, 20170149 Super Eagles forward Moses Simon won’t be leaving Gent for anything less than €20m according to the technical director of the team Michel Louwagie. Simon has been heavily linked with a move away from the Belgian side with West Brom and Monaco particularly interested in the former As Trencin man. However as reported by this portal French side Monaco opened discussions with Gent over his possible transfer in the summer, but the demands of the Belgian side differs from what they are offering. Louwagie while responding to rumours about Simon confirmed they have received offers for the forward but none has met the club valuation of their prized asset. He insist that the forward will be sold for nothing less than 20 million euros. He cited the transfer of Simon’s international teammate and close friend Wilfred Ndidi to Leicester City from Genk for £16m as a sign of how wise Belgium clubs have become in transfer dealings. “Why could they sell in the Netherlands to amounts to over thirty million euros?” “Where is Memphis Depay now? With PSV sold to Manchester United with a lot of drumstick. Vincent Janssen, AZ’s top scorer, came to Tottenham for lot of money, but he is yet to get enough minutes on the field.” “In terms of efficiency, is he better than Simon?” “The trend is reversed: Wilfred Ndidi in December, later some Anderlecht boys” “Anyone who wants our players will have to pay”, he told Voetballmagazine. Daniel Martins https://www.soccerassembly.com/moses-simon-worth-20-million-gent-coach/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 3:06pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Simon is a decent player no doubt 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:09pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
krattoss: Difference between Simon and Victor is Victor is more direct and often drifts towards the centre. Victor also combines well with the AM and other Midfielders. Watch our 3rd goals against Cameroon and Algeria respectively you'll understand. Simon is always on the touchline and will always run towards the corner line before running into the 18yards box or pulling out one cross for any lucky striker in position. Modern football has gone past that. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:09pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Of course you, who else? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:10pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
krattoss:Iwobi and Victor Moses are the first choice wingers. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:11pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
you are spot on about simon he doesn't always make the right decisions in the attacking third though i wouldn't yet categorize him in the pius ikedia headless chicken runs but he can surely improve. iwobi on the other hand is a different kind of winger because he is naturally a midfielder he will always gravitate to the middle. playing for nigeria and arsenal how many times have you seen iwobi try to beat his man at the byline and whip in a cross? can't recall sey? i guess like you said that's the way of modern football. Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:11pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
forgiveness: Achieved more.. if that is your only argument, you are fine. But Onyekuru at the point is ahead. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:18pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
i wouldn't be too quick to say he's a first choice. for me his lack of defensive discipline and his inability to track wouldn't make him an ideal winger for me. yes he does show flashes of brilliance in that role but not on a enough consistent basis but as an AM i think that's where he will eventually belong Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:21pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Joebie: Take your time. You almost gave me a heart attack when I saw Vinicius in his name. I was like fuq, Vinicius is a Nigerian. Thinking he was the same Vinicius Real Madrid signed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:22pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
for the super eagles i would like to see onyekuru given more of a chance to show what he can do. hopefully he will get good minutes against algeria tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:34pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
icons is right if we had better options simon would be chopping bench. not that he hasn't tried in the super eagles shirt but he can do better. s. moses is the kind of player that will be forming activity but no end product but i will admit he produces once in a while but not enough in my opinion for someone of his ability krattoss: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:38pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
See terrific goal by Vinicius this weekend. Some scouts were monitoring http://twitter.com/williamnordby/status/922088684551311360 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:40pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Icon4s: I didn't talk about how they play, I talked about how the coach wanted them to play and his tactics. Iwobi did no abracadabra in that game because it was premeditated by the coach. However, I don't see Iwobi as a winger because I have seen him flopped several times in that position in the National team. He is an AM in my own estimation. There are sometimes touches will backfire when you meet a park the bus teams. In such case, individual talent is required and good crosser of the ball. When Chelsea saw all roads were blocked, they resorted to crossing the balls into the box where a good striker made good used of his head. That is why we need an all rounder striker. Even Arsenal did the same. So, in a team you have to be dynamic and not static like iroko tree because when the chips are down, you will have no other options. Rohr showed he was dynamic in tactics hence the change of tactics with Iwobi. Iwobi did no abracadabra. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 3:41pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
tbaba1234: dem son start,na d guy name go start to dey call now VINICIUS better Dan d combination of Iheanacho,ighalo and co 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 3:46pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
chrisooblog:you're spot on bro |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:48pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Icon4s: Yet, Simon has 2 goals and an assist during w/q. How? Iwobi is an AM, the earlier we realize the better. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 3:51pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
tbaba1234: These are the kind of players we need. Rohr should give him a chance. he has a typical Brazilian mentality. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 3:53pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Icon4s:I have said it time and time again that Simon is not an intelligent winger. Yes, he works so hard and covers the defence, but that connection in the final third is just not there. We can praise him all we want for his defensive qualities but we need to realize that he is first of all an attacking player. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:58pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
aodis: I disagree, he needs to play at a higher level.. He is young so let us be patient. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by aodis: 4:06pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
tbaba1234: 22 years and was playing in the Brazilian league before coming to Denmark!!!! come off it bra! having experience in the Brazilian league and Dannish league is way better that most peeps playing in the Chinese league. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:13pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
aodis: He is playing in the 2nd division in Denmark. Played in the lower divisions in Brazil. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eligreat247: 4:15pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
What about Francis Uzoho of Deportivo La Coruna? I haven't heard news about him this weekend. Maybe he didn't play or what? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:16pm On Oct 23, 2017 |
Eligreat247: He plays today.. 1 Like |
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