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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:46pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Kog45:I feel for the boy shaa.. From grace to grass |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:46pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7: Update 6. We must check over confidence from the players, case in point is one of the reasons we lost the Denmark game in 1998 as the players were already thinking about brazil when they haven't finished with Denmark 7. We must check players who tend to be selfish in the game, result against argentina in the 2010 world cup would have been different if the likes of martins were not selfish in their play. Okocha was another culprit in past world cups. Victor Moses need to be checked on this. Players in better position must be given the ball for clinical finishes in front of goal like we saw against zambia with Iwobi's goal. This could decide games. 8. Team selection must be based on those who are hungry for the team success and not those who just want to appear as some big players have failed to turn up on the big occasions, e.g. Yekini of blessed memory and Okocha. Update 9. Good mix of youthful and experienced players. One of the reasons we failed in the 2002 world cup was the way we discarded experienced players who were still in form and hungry. Thank God Rohr had admitted that it was the mix of young and experienced players that achieved qualification. So those who feel the likes of Mikel, musa, onazi, echiejile even omeruo are not relevant may need to have a rethink. One advantage of the crop of young players we have now like iwobi, iheanacho, ekong and co is that by the next world cup, they will be very experienced players. 10. Updated FIFA rules must be understood by players and coaches to avoid naive situations. Reason we even failed to qualify in 2006 as we knew nothing about head to head rule. This also showed in 1994 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 3:47pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7:Yep Victor Moses and Onyekuru(if he makes the squad) are the main culprits. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:47pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
safarigirl:You catch am! Kpom. That team from first eleven to the bench was bad, some posted fair performances but as a team they were bad. Mikel, Moses though stood out for their lacklustre performances cos much was expected from them. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 3:48pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7: I tire. Let him grow up firstly before we begin paying attention. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 3:49pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
soetanoreoluwa:Conflicting news on how mikel voted. nawa. the ones ive seen said he chose ororo 1st. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:49pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
OMANBALA1:U are right,honestly only US 94 would serve as a good example for this team,nothing more coz they had s good preparation despite losing all their friendly matches. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:51pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
edi287:Yes the team was poor. Doesn't mean some didn't post good performances but if we judge them as a team, we'd see that that team was watery. Mikel more so. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 3:52pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
I have said it times without numbers here ,Victor Moses's biggest failure in Nigerian jersey is his selfish play but guess what NIGGA doesnt do that in his club. He do it with super eagles because we know he will get away with it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:53pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
reporting for duty boss! ok here goes for 1994 i would say the preparations were excellent. we played some good friendlies in the lead up to the tournament. our squad selection was excellent and in my opinion still the best of the 5 times we have participation. if i'm being hyper critical i think dropping nduka ugbade for emenalo and also taking efan ekoku who in hindsight didn't do much was a small low point. nfa as they were called then largely behaved themselves. i think we could have gone farther than the second round we did in 1994 but a combination of lack of tournament experience, naivety on the part of coaches and players plus little player indiscipline both on and off field led to our ouster 1998 was a shameful show of indiscipline from both the fa and players. fa started it by firing trousseir who brought some discipline and team play and bora milutinovic who barely knew the players and could barely impose himself on the players. squad selection was ok but a lot of sentiments were involved. for instance taking an injured amokachi in place akpoborie who was fit and playing well for stuttgart was a really poor decision. our first XI wasn't too bad but the bench were mostly retired or semi-retired guys who couldn't do much. after our surprising victory over spain in the first game the players became arrogant and conceited which largely led to us being knocked out 2002 again the nfa brought confusion by sacking amodu and co so close to the world cup. squad selection was largely poor because the fa exiled key first team players in a knee jerk reaction to our poor AFCON showing. the replacements were either not good enough or not matured or experienced enough. that said our group was pretty tough sweden, england, argentina and even argentina was knocked out 2010 was just a coming together of every bad decision we had in the past world cups. sacking amodu just before the world cup, player indiscipline and in fighting, nff sports ministry cold war, not the best squad selection, naivety inexperience infact excuse my language but it was just a cluster f**k of everything bad that could have happened happened. that experience should be used as an eternal example of what not to do 2014 nff largely was ok but still that lingering cold war with sports ministry and coach keshi. poor squad selection basically no bench, inexplicably we left our best or better legs behind. i think keshi did his best to squeeze out some good performances from the squad but we were just not good enough. player indiscipline again onfield/off field affected us going into next years world cup, nff and sports ministry should be on best of terms, squad selection should not be a drastic change from what we currently have but an addition of 4-5 players who will improve the team, as much as possible sentiments should be avoided in players selection. money issues should be sorted out and agreed way before the world cup in russia. players should continue to be united and level headed. we pray for a good draw and luck to see us through Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:54pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7:Highly seconded. And maybe send it as a feature article to any of the national dailies or sports blogs. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:56pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
OMANBALA1: The coach need to sort this out fast if not hmmmmmm, love the guy but he must learn to release his ball to even reduce injuries for himself. Someone need to tell moses that this is why okocha couldn't even win african footballer of the year! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 3:57pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Mickael2:In the Super Eagles Jersey. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 4:00pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Kog45: The closest we have ever been to that 1994 squad is now but we dont have a team yet. In that 1994 squad didnt have weak links like Echiejile,Onazi,Moses Simon. Every player was lit as fuucck. But we can get there with serious preparations and hoping players like Ekong,Echiejile and Moses Simon get it together or get replaced. AGAIN,WORLD CUP IS NOT A PLACE YOU GO WITH HALF- STRENGTHENED . |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 4:01pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Super Eagles tracking La Liga new sensation Francis Uzoho – Alloy Agu Francis Odinaka Uzoho in action for Deportivo la Coruna World Cup-bound Super Eagles are closely following the progress of teenaged goalkeeper Francis Uzoho in the Spanish la Liga, according to goalkeeper trainer Alloy Agu. Last night, Uzoho, who will be 19 by the weekend, played his second game for Deportivo La Coruna at home against Girona. His club fell 2-1 in front of their own fans, but the former Golden Eaglets shot stopper pulled off at least four big saves. Eagles trainer Alloy Agu has now revealed they are keeping close tabs on the youngster. “We are watching, we hope he continues to do well at top level,” the former Eagles goalkeeper and skipper disclosed. He has already said current form will be the major consideration in picking the goalkeepers for next year’s World Cup in Russia. http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2017/10/24/super-eagles-tracking-la-liga-new-sensation-francis-uzoho-alloy-agu/ |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 4:02pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7: Yes,Okocha dribbled himself to absolute nothingness. Victor Moses will be more infuencial if he can release the ball on time....I hate selfish players. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:05pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Icon4s:Yes Baba Icon4s we have to push this beyond this our space. The ministry must move to the permanent site ooo. Not going round the bend of participation like before as Goke7 has pointed out cos that was even one thing the Zambians were yabbing us with: that we are perennial underachievers. I felt bad. I wont lie to you, there's something incredibly wonderful about our team doing well, its power to lift the mood of the nation is without measure. I swear I was still feeling euphoric after the Nigerian /Zambian match. Used to watch that goal before going to bed three nights afterwards. E really sweet me. We've qualified for other World Cups but I felt so beautiful after this one. I still remember that after our last match against Ethiopia here in Nigeria I didn't feel so ecstatic as these. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:06pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Kog45: He should go back to City and resume warming bench. At age 21? A player rated to be a " future world beater"? A player projected to be better than Nwankwo Kanu, A player that was said to be in a class of his own. At 21: Kanu Nwankwo had won the UEFA Champions league with Ajax (at age 19), not as a bench warmer but as a strike pertner to Patrick Kliuvert. He had won the Olympic gold medal (at age 20). This was the age he was diagnosed of a heart disease while at Intermilan. at 21: Obafemi Martins already broke into the Inter Milan senior squad. He played for inter in the final of UEFA champions league scoring in the winning goal in the semi final against AC Milan At 21: John Utaka was painting French league one red. Emerging the highest scoring African in a league that is blessed with numerous talented Senegalese, Ivorian and Malian players. Note that Didier Drogba was also in that league at that time. At 21, Yakubu Ayegbeni was banging in goals in Europe for Maccabi Haifa. At 21 Victor Moses was snapped by Chelsea from Wigan where he had a blistering season. Some of you may attack me for this analysis. But the truth must be said that Iheanacho has fallen far short of expectations. He seems to be an excess luggage at Lowly Leicester presently. He was bought only to be find out that he wasn't needed in the first place. I feel for the boy. He may just spend one season with Leicester or end up like Musa who we often forgot is an EPL player. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 4:08pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
At Icons4s, OMANBALA1 is on caps...daalu 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 4:10pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Any lesson learnt in previous world cup disappointment? None! Amodu of blessed memory should have taken us to at least one world cup but for NFF's greed and fan's love for 'sexy' football. Even with his impressive win ratio and a bronze medal at AFCON, fan's wanted a coach with an attacking style of play and the corrupt NFF buoyed by this didn't hesitate in shopping for a foreign coach with behind the scene kickback (as exposed by Englishman, Erickson). Probably, after few friendlies, the story of how Rhor is not technically adept and the need for a technically savvy coach will surface. Thankfully, there's no AFCON next year, so some of us can counter with: 'it's just a friendly'. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by OMANBALA1: 4:12pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Kelechi with his bad first touch will not achieve anything. Dude cant keep ball for a second. Always looking for tap-ins. Dude is not a striker and he needs to start playing to his strength. Kelechi is a build up player with an eye for goal and he needs to do more of what he is good at. stop waiting for tap ins and drop deep and play with the midfielders and wingers so the coach can see your strength. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:17pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7: I disagree with 3. 90% is too high... Instead, go with the core of the team that won the ticket. 70-75 percent is good enough as long as the most important players are there. Rohr's team is fairly new. The USA 94 team took years to grow and we had seen all the players play. We knew what everyone could offer. We knew what Agu, Wilfred and Rufai could offer. We had already seen them several times. Right now, we do not know what an Alampasu or Ajiboye can offer. There is still question marks over some players in Rohr's set-up especially those on the bench. Nwakeame, Ogu, Alampasu, Agbo, Ebuehi, etc.. Even players like Musa and Omeruo have question marks. In USA 94, we were coming off the back of a nations cup triumph, the team was settled.. It is not the same here. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:18pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
OMANBALA1:I was enjoying you until your last sentence. Please how are we not ready or prepared? We have a dead rubber match against Algeria, a top notch friendly (some even feel it's coming too early) against Argentina. In fact Qualifiers have not yet ended. I think we are on track. We just need to draw out a road to Russia map(and the NFF has said they will do and make it public) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:23pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
krattoss:Not yet. Just a rough patch. But I hate how foreign clubs change a players position from what they are naturally suited for. Mikel survived it because he was immensely talented. It's not that a player will not play other positions but let him be established in his natural position first and then he can combine his experience, football intelligence and talent to thrive in any other position. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:30pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Icon4s:as in. It will make a mockery of International football. If we have to technically 'buy' players from other countries, they should kuku removfeghe whole idea of player nationality so you won't have to be from a country or linked to it to play for them We can place bids for Asensio and Moussa Dembele |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 4:31pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Have we not be shuffling players before every world cup and end up with woeful results? why continue with what is not working. Where are the players that are truly better than what we have now, yes question marks on some current players but who are the players replacing them? Kids that have just made one or two senior appearances for their clubs? Abeg o. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:33pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
OMANBALA1:You know sometimes we just talk and then if it is examined it doesn't pan out with our assertion. Granted VicMo can be selfish and has been so in times past but pray examine him from the first match he featured in against Algeria to the last against Zambia and tell me how he was selfish? Against Algeria he wanted to even pass the ball to Iheanacho but the ball struck the foot of an Algerian defender and came back to him and he slotted home. Against Cameroon apart from scoring (initiated by Mikel to VicMo, he ran, dribbled cameroun players, passed to Simon and scored from the square play by Simon) he initiated the last goal with a flick. Against Cameroon in the second leg I can't recall how he was selfish. Against Zambia in the last match, his runs though were not as effective as they used to be yet he created good opportunities for Ighalo in both halves and his runs created the panic for the goal. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:36pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Why we failed at the 2002 WC. 1. Change of coaching crew. We made this mistake in 1998 we did not learn. Thank God we are not doing that this time. NFF don't try it o. 2. Axing of Senior players by the coach in collaboration with the NFA. Lesson to those that want experienced players like Echiejile and Onazi out of the team 3. Parading too many inexperienced players plus some players only took part in one or two friendlies. Batholomew Ogbeche, Femi Opabunmi, Justice Christopher, Efe Sodje. They were not tested but were trusted and lo they failed us. What happened to their careers after that World cup? Lesson, every player that will make the next world cup squad be tested and trusted. 4. Lack of tactical inputs to games. Onigbinde sat on the bench with his hands under his chin in all the 3 games irrespective of how the games were progressing. He never got up for once to shout instructions to the boys. When asked he said he had already told them what to do from the dressing room. Is it that he didn't understand that game dynamics change and you could switch formation to counter or to follow these changes in dynamics? And that you can do this by passing instructions by voice or by hand signals? Rohr is a very active coach we have no worries about that. Although I think Rohr needs a special tactician even if it is just for the world cup. Eg Westerhof had Jo Bonfere. 5. That 'up NEPA' jersey. Commentators could not even read the numbers and names on the jerseys as the Lemon green over shadowed the white prints on it. Some press men even mentioned that players found it difficult distinguishing some of their key players that they needed to get more involved in the game. Funny but could be possible. Lesson learnt: The NFF should give us one very fine nice Jersey. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:37pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Goke7: We do not need to transform the team. We already know the first 11 and the regular subs. However, We need to ensure that everyone is chosen on merit. You can not just pick an imaginary % of those who should make it because they were part of the campaign but contributed nothing on the pitch. There are players on the fringes who can be of more value. Onyekuru, Esiti, Kayode, Uzoho, etc... These players should get their shot to prove themselves. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:38pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
safarigirl: Loz.... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 4:41pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Mujtahida:couldn't have said better...although the guy dribbles but tagging him "selfish " isan overstatement. .. If he is selfish,how them will u describe the likes of ronaldinho,neymar jnr, |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 4:44pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Kayode and onyekuru are already part of this team having been invited recently so who remain?, how many times have uzoho appeared for his club senior side before someone will tell me he should replace ezenwa, na so super eagles cheap? |
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