Nice, I hope the students won't vandalize those properties?

Ok, in Europe? or where do they call secondary school academy?

nwabobo:


Yes, academy is secondary school.

Kwara is in trouble. We cannot even boast of one of this type of project for a regime of 7 years now.

Other states that didn't build good schools like these, have they paid all salaries and pensions owed? States like Benue, Bayelsa, Ekiti etc?

seguno2:
Has he paid all salaries and pensions owed for several months and years?
Or will the shine shine buildings teach the students by themselves?

somehow:
Ok, in Europe? or where do they call secondary school academy?

You can all it what ever you like.

There's primary, secondary and tertiary education and academies provide secondary education. Some academies are even primary schools.

Well I believe Academy offers more than just primary or secondary school education. They are more of a specialist kind of school and most are more equipped than average primary or secondary schools. I hope you understand?

nwabobo:


You can all it what ever you like.

There's primary, secondary and tertiary education and academies provide secondary education. Some academies are even primary schools.

somehow:
Other states that didn't build good schools like these, have they paid all salaries and pensions owed? States like Benue, Bayelsa, Ekiti etc?

In your own life, do you compare yourself with the worst people
If not, why are you suggesting that we should do so for Aregbesola?

seguno2:
Has he paid all salaries and pensions owed for several months and years?
Or will the shine shine buildings teach the students by themselves?

He said the state government has paid the salary of all workers in the state up to July, 2017 in line with the agreement made between it and the labour union.


https://www.naij.com/1118710-201112-osun-pensioners-disrupt-prayers-aregbesolas-mother-payment-n51billion.html#1118710

If Osun state with so much debt and unpaid salaries as you claimed is able to build, deliver and commission grand and world-class projects all over the place, what about you explaining to us why all your own SE states abi villages with no debt and have paid salaries up to date ( All SE states have debts and 4 of them collected salary bail out) can not build and commission any project or infrastructures like Aregbeshola in Osun state?


Why are your own states, all 5 of them have nothing meaningful to show us?

This is how hatred, petty jealousy, bitterness and tribalism make you overlook they backwardness, incompetence and lack of productivity and productive leaders in your own states and instead worry and kill yourself over the good work others are doing in their own state.

Your own states collect taxes, they collect allocations and also have debts, they even collected salary bailout, but you can not show us what they did or are doing with your money, but the people in Osun at lease can see on the ground the magnificent rewards from their taxes, allocations, and debts forever.


The joke is on you.

deomelo:
If Osun state with so much debt and unpaid salaries as you claimed is able to build, deliver and commission grand and world-class projects all over the place, what about you explaining to us why all your own SE states abi villages with no debt and have paid salaries up to date ( All SE states have debts and 4 of them collected salary bail out) can not build and commission any project or infrastructures like Aregbeshola in Osun state?

Why are your own states, all 5 of them have nothing meaningful to show us?

This is how hatred, petty jealousy, bitterness and tribalism make you overlook they backwardness, incompetence and lack of productivity and productive leaders in your own states and instead worry and kill yourself over the good work others are doing in their own state.

Your own states collect taxes, they collect allocations and also have debts, they even collected salary bailout, but you can not show us what they did or are doing with your money, but the people in Osun at lease can see on the ground the magnificent rewards from their taxes, allocations, and debts forever.

The joke is on you.

He said and you believe?
Half salaries paid while pensions are owed forever?
And how do you know that I am not from Osun state? Are you a witch or what?

Osun state is one of the poorest states in Nigeria with or WITHOUT Aregbe as the government, the states I compared osun with are even richer than her yet you think they are the worst people?

I don't criticize blindly brother. Give osun state what any of the states I listed are getting and see what Aregbe will do it with.

Not a fan of any governor but like what he has done with schools and roads.

seguno2:


In your own life, do you compare yourself with the worst people
If not, why are you suggesting that we should do so for Aregbesola?

If Osun has the money like Lagos, Osun would have been transformed to singapore under Aregbe. .

deomelo:








You mean the old one like the one in the above picture that Aregbeshola demolished and rebuilt was stronger than the new one in the same above picture. ?





The new schools are built with steel and can last up for more than 100 years.

Stop talking and criticizing just because you can. if you are going to criticize, do it with sane, rational and valid views that you can back up with facts.

I did not criticize him, I know you are pay to do this but try and do it rightly, structure is good but good education is more than structure. We need structure, that is nice but we need good tutor that will teach those student. If u did not get me try and check Osun WAEC and NECO

seguno2:


In your own life, do you compare yourself with the worst people
If not, why are you suggesting that we should do so for Aregbesola?

Please don't be offended by this question, I understand that some people are atheist. How about people who pray like these;

Thank God that I am not in the mortuary
Thank God that I am not in prison
Thank God that I am not in hospital
Thank God that I am not homeless
Thank God that that I am not begging for food

Are those people praying the wrong way? Maybe they are just thanking God and not comparing themselves to those other people in the bad situations.

There used to be this popular sticker that read;
"I was crying because I have no shoes, until I saw someone without legs."

I guess those words on marble are obsolete in these days of "l better pass my neighbor mentality "

somehow:
Well I believe Academy offers more than just primary or secondary school education. They are more of a specialist kind of school and most are more equipped than average primary or secondary schools. I hope you understand?

Bottom line is that in the context of Primary, secondary and tertiary or higher education, the do not offer tertiary or higher education.

codekanle:

I did not criticize him, I know you are pay to do this but try and do it rightly, structure is good but good education is more than structure. We need structure, that is nice but we need good tutor that will teach those student. If u did not get me try and check Osun WAEC and NECO

If good structures are good and you also need good structures, then why are you crying because the government provided good structures?

Or you think the government spent money on new schools because they don't need good students and good teachers? Or they told you that they are not going to hire good teachers to teach in these schools and produce good students?

If you are so concerned about good education and good WAEC results, shouldn't common sense tell you that you have to lay good and lasting education foundation by first providing the necessary learning and conducive education environment ad the tools necessary to achieve good results?

How do you even get a good education and good teachers without first providing the tools required and good education infrastructures?

Can you provide good WAEC results without good schools and for students and for teachers to teach in?



You are not making any sense and it's not by force to criticize.

seguno2:


He said and you believe?

Do you have any proof to counter that claim apart from your ignorant and bad bele assertions?

Half salaries paid while pensions are owed forever?

We’ve been paid salaries up to June, Says Osun NLC Chairman

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/07/weve-paid-salaries-june-says-osun-nlc-chairman/

How are they owed forever? Obviously not according to the NLC.

Confine your ignorance and bad bele to your fellow anti-progress elements.

And how do you know that I am not from Osun state? Are you a witch or what?

Funny how you cowards, ipob hate mongers, and PDP losers deny and hide your identities just to hide your hatred, bigotry, tribalism and idiocies. All because you are afraid and can not show us anything your own village governors did with your debts, taxes and allocations.

seguno2:
Buhari has killed us finish.
Where are the zombies who told us that Buhari will make fuel N40?
They should come and bury us oh.

seguno2:


Just like the zombies can't ask for a refund of their votes from the Fulani herdsman renting Aso Rock currently.
Very painful.

seguno2:


This same Buhari who is the Grand Patron of Fulani herdsmen and Boko Haram terrorists?
The shameless old man who said that his murderous lawless herdsmen are from Libya?
The bloody hypocrite should simply zip it.

seguno2:

The demonic APC truly belong to their master, Lucifer.

The above explained your warped, bigoted, tribal and odious mentality which I think you really should stick to because its all you are known for.


Sad losers.

mapet:


@Desyner,

1. The person that told you "your brain is paining you" is on point. You think everything about IGR relates 100% to teachers' salary?
2. On IGR, You make such a weak, pedestrian point, you did not back such up with quantitative data.
3. Pray tell, what is the thrust of your lame IGR point? Is IGR static? Conventional wisdom should have told you that to be able to increase your performance on payments, the logical option is to grow IGR, especially when federal allocation is dwindling. I thought a quick "google search" would have put to rest the needless argument you keep making about IGR. How can anyone in his right senses rationalise investment in infrastructe, education and development as a second order priority.
4. As at 2016, Osun state was 16th on the IGR rating. https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/state-viability-index-lagos-generates-igr-31-states-combined/. Osun is not among the 14 states that cannot generate up to 10% of their FAAC equivalent (a benchmark that depicted sustainability)
5. While it has been proven both in research and practice that investment in education has a mid-longterm impact on economic advancement, poverty reduction, sustainable growth etc. Your argument of teacher salary as a condition precedent is ill-concieved and not intelligent.
6. So let us talk about teachers salary issue in Osun state. So the picture is Aregbesola took a "gamble" in taking huge debt on infrastructure development.......economy went south........salaries were affected. How is this different from virtually all the state governors except Lagos and Ogun, who could not pay their civil servants and had to rely on bail out from FG? The big question is how have they been able to navigate the trouble waters? I am sure you are aware that Aregbe is about the most transparent with the Paris Club funds. He was about the only governor that published how it was utilised without being prompted to do so. He is one of the few governors that ICPC gave a clean bill of health on the use of the Paris Club funds. He has deployed the Paris Club funds solely to clear the back log in a creative way. He formed a joint committee of Labour Union/Civil Servants/Govt who oversaw how the funds was disbursed.
7. What is in it for Osun with these schools? few of the upsides;
a. First of is that students will have access to decent learning environments like their global counterparts. I am sure you cannot quantify the benefit of qualitative education of a citizen and how it solves his future problems in a long way
b. Secondly enrollment rate will not only increase, but these schools will adequately accommodate them. Each of the model schools can take up to 3000 students
c. With high enrollment, also comes an increase in government spending which will stimulate the economy. The school feeding program is connected to agri-business, the uniform is connected to textile industry, infrastructure to these school is also an empowerment medium
d. Have you imagined the "butterfly effect" of some of these projects? How it opens up new areas for value not only directly to the people impacted, but consequence impact on secondary and tertiary beneficiaries - Middle players in transport, logistics, waste collectors, software developers, skill acquisition outfits, farms and support services etc?


Finally, when you make assertions, pls back it up with facts. The Osun Sukuk bond will be paid in full by 2020, at which point all sets are fully owned by Osun. I wonder where you got your phantom 50years scaremongering nonsense from. Yes it is a difficult period, but Osun has prospect for prosperity as they have laid the foundation for it.

I Can imagine the thickness of the palmwine you took being thicker than pap.
All what you wrote depends on the ability to meet up with recurrent expenses of running the school. Where is the IGR to do just that? Straight answers please.

@mapet, So 10% of allocation is all that Aregbe can do? What happens then if oil earning dwindles further?
He takes huge loan and grows IGR to N8.8B/annum and people like you are shouting.

@mapet, what happens when the students Aregbe is subsidizing to high heaven go and grow Oyo or Abuja or Kano or Rivers when they are ripe for employement but there are no industries?
You must think you replying an Okada rider that reads news headline in the stands.

@mapet, in that your stùpíd point 7, how will a govt that can't pay salaries sustain the spending that will stimulate the economy? Plus we already seeing the stupíd butterfly-cum-scorpion effects Aregbes policy is causing.
I can imagine your kidney inside your skull right now.

@mapet, you say education has a mid/long term effect on growth, fine. How is the growth going to be channelled into Osun in particular ?
You are supporting a fiscal rascal who thinks oil money is his birthright and want to impress people. I pity your empty skull. In Ogun state the govt focus on scholarship and sign a binding contract that guaranty they contribute back to the state.

Academics are higher than primary and secondary schools, that's what it is, so lets compare likes for likes. That's my point. Most of the pictures you posted are that of academics. You can look up the difference online.

nwabobo:


Bottom line is that in the context of Primary, secondary and tertiary or higher education, the do not offer tertiary or higher education.

somehow:
Academics are higher than primary and secondary schools, that's what it is, so lets compare likes for likes. That's my point. Most of the pictures you posted are that of academics. You can look up the difference online.

Academies are mostly secondary schools and in some cases primary.

somehow:
Academics are higher than primary and secondary schools, that's what it is, so lets compare likes for likes. That's my point. Most of the pictures you posted are that of academics. You can look up the difference online.

The coalition government is inviting all schools in England to become academies and encouraging parents to set up their own schools, called free schools. The Academies Bill, which paves the way for these changes, is currently being debated in the House of Commons. The BBC News website examines key questions about academies and free schools.

What is an academy?

Academies are publicly funded schools which operate outside of local authority control. The government describes them as independent state-funded schools. Essentially, academies have more freedom than other state schools over their finances, the curriculum, and teachers' pay and conditions.

A key difference is that they are funded directly by central government, instead of receiving their funds via a local authority. In addition, they receive money which would previously have been held back by the local authority to provide extra services across all schools, such as help for children with special educational needs. This is estimated to range from 4 to 10% of the funds allocated to the school.

Academies do not have to follow the national curriculum. They can choose their own curriculum, as long as it is "broad and balanced".

Don't academies exist already?

Yes, there are more than 200 of them in England at the moment, all secondary schools. They were established by the Labour government, seen as a way of turning around the worst-performing schools and schools in disadvantaged areas.

Under Labour, academies had to have sponsors - who invested up to £2m in return for receiving state funding directly from central government. Sponsors included businesses, church groups, charitable trusts and private schools. New academies were usually established with state-of-the-art buildings and the philosophy that transforming children's environment would help them engage more with learning.

Academies set up before 2007 were able to set their own curriculum, but those which came afterwards had to teach the national curriculum in English, maths and science. Those academies will have to renegotiate their agreements with the government to to get the new academy freedoms over the curriculum.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10161371

The academies you posted are mostly of european countries different from that of UK. The ones you listed are specialist schools not the typical primary or secondary schools around in the UK or Europe/US.
Funny enough, from the article you posted, the academies being established are being funded by the labor government (national) yet you want to compare it with state runned schools? Secondly schools funded by parents and the public are more like private schools and should be better than state (not national/fed) schools. All over the world, private and fed schools always have more funds/backbones done state/local schools.

nwabobo:



The coalition government is inviting all schools in England to become academies and encouraging parents to set up their own schools, called free schools. The Academies Bill, which paves the way for these changes, is currently being debated in the House of Commons. The BBC News website examines key questions about academies and free schools.

What is an academy?

Academies are publicly funded schools which operate outside of local authority control. The government describes them as independent state-funded schools. Essentially, academies have more freedom than other state schools over their finances, the curriculum, and teachers' pay and conditions.

A key difference is that they are funded directly by central government, instead of receiving their funds via a local authority. In addition, they receive money which would previously have been held back by the local authority to provide extra services across all schools, such as help for children with special educational needs. This is estimated to range from 4 to 10% of the funds allocated to the school.

Academies do not have to follow the national curriculum. They can choose their own curriculum, as long as it is "broad and balanced".

Don't academies exist already?

Yes, there are more than 200 of them in England at the moment, all secondary schools. They were established by the Labour government, seen as a way of turning around the worst-performing schools and schools in disadvantaged areas.

Under Labour, academies had to have sponsors - who invested up to £2m in return for receiving state funding directly from central government. Sponsors included businesses, church groups, charitable trusts and private schools. New academies were usually established with state-of-the-art buildings and the philosophy that transforming children's environment would help them engage more with learning.

Academies set up before 2007 were able to set their own curriculum, but those which came afterwards had to teach the national curriculum in English, maths and science. Those academies will have to renegotiate their agreements with the government to to get the new academy freedoms over the curriculum.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10161371

https://www.netmums.com/coffeehouse/tweens-teens-581/teens-61/639272-difference-between-academy-high-school-all.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/10161371
difference between high school and academy

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://pediaa.com/difference-between-school-and-academy/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwi4y6PXzozXAhWGCBoKHSjiDB4QFggeMAY&usg=AOvVaw0tNuNTjKzEv_pFE9cjJYSC

I didn't really take time to check the pictures and origin of the academies/schools you posted until now.

Almost all of them are private schools/academies not in the league of normal govt owned primary or secondary schools. You actually compared apples for oranges. Very dubious of you bro.

nwabobo:


You can all it what ever you like.

There's primary, secondary and tertiary education and academies provide secondary education. Some academies are even primary schools.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/2010/13506/archi5/marcel-sembat-high-school-in-sotteville-l-s-rouen.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98restad_Gymnasium

Public secondary schools don't use rector. They use principal!


https://www.archdaily.com/154206/marcel-sembat-high-school-archi5-with-b-huidobro

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_School

somehow:
I didn't really take time to check the pictures and origin of the academies/schools you posted until now.

Almost all of them are private schools/academies not in the league of normal govt owned primary or secondary schools. You actually compared apples for oranges. Very dubious of you bro.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/2010/13506/archi5/marcel-sembat-high-school-in-sotteville-l-s-rouen.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98restad_Gymnasium

Public secondary schools don't use rector. They use principal!


https://www.archdaily.com/154206/marcel-sembat-high-school-archi5-with-b-huidobro

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazelwood_School

All the schools there are public schools. Stop grabbing at straws.

Prove it from the links I just posted.

The founders of these schools are on the links Mr man. I don't really have time to start posting history of some of these privately owned academies but their names are online and readable. This is how I have to say.

nwabobo:


All the schools there are public schools. Stop grabbing at straws.

Just check out these ones:
Website www.hazelwoodschool.co.uk

The school was established in 1890 as a boarding school for boys aged 8–13 by Edward Baily and his wife Ruth.

Baily bought the land from the Titsey Place estate as he loved the views of the Weald and the Ashdown Forest and thought the site healthy and bracing. The first cohort of 38 pupils was accommodated and taught in a purpose-built Victorian building that remains at the centre of the school today.

The Ørestad College will be the first in Denmark to fulfil new educational visions regarding subjects, organisation and teaching systems.

somehow:
Prove it from the links I just posted.

The founders of these schools are on the links Mr man. I don't really have time to start posting history of some of these privately owned academies but their names are online and readable. This is how I have to say.

Just check out these ones:
Website www.hazelwoodschool.co.uk

The school was established in 1890 as a boarding school for boys aged 8–13 by Edward Baily and his wife Ruth.

Baily bought the land from the Titsey Place estate as he loved the views of the Weald and the Ashdown Forest and thought the site healthy and bracing. The first cohort of 38 pupils was accommodated and taught in a purpose-built Victorian building that remains at the centre of the school today.

The Ørestad College will be the first in Denmark to fulfil new educational visions regarding subjects, organisation and teaching systems.

I posted a picture of Hazelwood school in Glasgow Scotland and you post a link for Hazelwood school in Surrey, many hundreds of miles apart. Is that Joe desperate you are?

somehow:
Prove it from the links I just posted.

The founders of these schools are on the links Mr man. I don't really have time to start posting history of some of these privately owned academies but their names are online and readable. This is how I have to say.

Just check out these ones:
Website www.hazelwoodschool.co.uk

The school was established in 1890 as a boarding school for boys aged 8–13 by Edward Baily and his wife Ruth.

Baily bought the land from the Titsey Place estate as he loved the views of the Weald and the Ashdown Forest and thought the site healthy and bracing. The first cohort of 38 pupils was accommodated and taught in a purpose-built Victorian building that remains at the centre of the school today.

The Ørestad College will be the first in Denmark to fulfil new educational visions regarding subjects, organisation and teaching systems.

Here you go.

somehow:
Prove it from the links I just posted.

The founders of these schools are on the links Mr man. I don't really have time to start posting history of some of these privately owned academies but their names are online and readable. This is how I have to say.

Just check out these ones:
Website www.hazelwoodschool.co.uk

The school was established in 1890 as a boarding school for boys aged 8–13 by Edward Baily and his wife Ruth.

Baily bought the land from the Titsey Place estate as he loved the views of the Weald and the Ashdown Forest and thought the site healthy and bracing. The first cohort of 38 pupils was accommodated and taught in a purpose-built Victorian building that remains at the centre of the school today.

The Ørestad College will be the first in Denmark to fulfil new educational visions regarding subjects, organisation and teaching systems.

For Ørestad College, can you slso see that the owner (client) is the Copenhagen municipality ie Copenhagen Local council.

Is college a secondary school? Can't you see the courses they offer? Does a secondary offer such?

nwabobo:


For Ørestad College, can you slso see that the owner (client) is the Copenhagen municipality ie Copenhagen Local council.