Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by tosyne2much(m): 11:39am On Oct 26, 2017 |
ACDONCHRIS: Hello, Ladies. Interesting views so far, I must tell you. I don't intend meddling with all the ladies throwing around arguments. Please take note of the following:
1. Possession of a degree does not, in anyway, make you think better than someone without it.
2. Marrying a man that possesses a degree does not guarantee you a happy marriage.
3. Bagging a degree is not the true definition of education. Simply put, you're not better educated than one without it.
4. It's not every man without a degree that is jealous of a career-loving wife.
5. 99% of the people that have interracted with me in all spheres of life in the last 12 years (including you) did not know that I never had a degree (till today) .
6. I do not have a degree. What I possess is NCE. With it, I taugh in schools, worked in the financial services sector, worked in the construction and building sector, etc. before resigning into self-employment in October, 2015. Currently in Church, I oversee hundreds of very learned personalities, yet if they are told today that I'm not a graduate, they will say, "it's a lie." Today, I run my own successful school and farm. My in-laws to be do not even bother asking if I'm a graduate or not. Infact, they do not even know and even if they're told, they'll never believe it. My father-in-law to be is a serving Navy Capt. in the Nigerian Navy. I'm marrying their daughter by God's grace next year. I have never stepped outside the shores of Nigeria. Even though I don't possess a university degree, my wife to be does not even bother. It's very good to be a graduate, but that's not all to life.
7. I'm just 32.
Ladies, what do you have to say about me? Wooooow.. You have a very broad view about life in general.
My own views on this discourage is that both educated and non educated men can be suffering from insecurity as it has nothing to do with being educated or not.
That a man does not have a degree does not mean he will be jealous of his educated wife's accomplishments or he will place a ceiling on the height she will attain. On other hand hand, that a man is educated does not mean he will help his wife to get to the peak of her career. So it goes both ways
I think it's sheer ignorance and foolishness to think that building a happy home is a function of a degree because, there are many doctors and professors out there who can't even manage their homes appropriately while there are stark illiterates out there who can manage their homes better than them. 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Notatribalist(m): 11:54am On Oct 26, 2017 |
TimeMod3: pocohantas doesn't come lesser an hypocrite. She'd be the first to lick Ronaldo's balls given the privilege.
Let her convince us a little by showing us her #pocorunz certificate. Lol lol.you wicked |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by HRHQueenPhil(f): 12:09pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
sukkot: dayum gurl you are an illiterate lmao.' does not need ' ? whatever.lol |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Oluwadare: 12:33pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
pocohantas:
You are smart! You are civil! Educated or not! I appreciate that! We need more of your type in this section.
With this your post alone, I will marry you even if you stopped after common entance!!! lol....thank you. You actually prompted to that comment really,because you stand the opposition tests being thrown at you. You have some serious points that men might find it difficult to agree with including me but experience-wise they are genuine no doubt. Most times, a wrong can be actually right if you can prove it from a pure heart and experience. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
UfuomaUN:
I had this mentality couple of years ago when I was in my final year, still relishing the thought of brandishing my high GPA in the eyes of anyone that bothered to give me audience. Today I'm in the Engineering industry, learning from people who had less formal education than I did but ironically are more sound technically and way successful than I could ever imagine. And guess what? Most of them from what I've learnt personally have affected society more than our so called first class students- the pride of tertiary education.
and I could go on and on...but in simple University education is shit.... especially in Nigeria
So pls, University education is over rated cc 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by kenx27(m): 12:38pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Queen Phil, honestly ur mental need upgrade. Acquiring a degree is just a priviledge, some ppol dnt hav dat priviledge. Most of our politicians are still going to skol to acquire their own degree. can u state our pressident educational background? Degree does nt qualify a good heart, Godly conscience. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by pocohantas(f): 12:44pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Oluwadare: lol....thank you. You actually prompted to that comment really,because you stand the opposition tests being thrown at you. You have some serious points that men might find it difficult to agree with including me but experience-wise they are genuine no doubt. Most times, a wrong can be actually right if you can prove it from a pure heart and experience. Awww, you're so sweet, you got me smiling. I never said I prefer them because they're intelligent or more successful than their uneducated counterparts. People who couldn't deal with individual choices started the semantics, which I didn't see the need for. I actually went through your posts, there was something about the initial one I quoted that prompted that. Very few male NLders have caught my interest that way. I'll watch out for you Words on marble, intents are very pure and no way condescending. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Nobody: 1:15pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
YelloweWest:
The lack of happiness in my sister's marriage is simply because she and her husband don't reason alike. Her views are more enlightened and civil, influenced largely by her education. His are more archaic and obsolete. Due to the lack of exposure that comes with education.
He feels he can treat his wife any way he pleases. He is even of the view that he can kill her because he paid her bride price! To him she has no basic human rights!
Now if he married an illiterate she could tolerate such because she knows no better. But for a well read woman it's unimaginable.
This is the point am stressing. I've witnessed it first hand. AN EDUCATED WOMAN AND AN UNEDUCATED MAN IS A BAD MIX! Except he was the same exposure through reading and experience but for one reason or the other could not get a degree.
For example. My husband and I were in uni together. We both studied law. I've since gone to law sch and become a lawyer but my hus has been unable to go due to business. However he has read all the law school courses. He also worked in the court for 10years after his waec. He is by far more experienced than me in law processes but is not a lawyer. In this instance he has been educated by his experience and exposure. We reason alike and share the same views. The lack of happiness in my sister's marriage is simply because she and her husband don't reason alike. I had to quote your exact words to show you don't agree with yourself. Why your sister and her husband don't reason alike is a simple case of Individual personality: Personality refers to individual differences in characteristic patterns of thinking, feeling and behaving. Same reason you didn't marry a course mate of yours from Northen Nigeria who believes in polygamy. But isn't he educated? You can marry a lawyer and reason alike when it comes to sections of the constitution that should be amended, but not general facts of life. I know a lady who married a lawyer husband after dating him for 10 years (began dating from sec school), they went to the same uni and graduated the same year. She went to law school and he turned to business trading on woods. Today he's a politician ( I won't mention his name because he is well recognized in Rivers state). This man hits his wife on every slightest provocation, he almost onces strangled her to death over the use of Facebook (He believes a married woman has no business on social media). He once threatened to kill me for aiding refuge to his wife. This is a lawyer husband married to a lawyer wife but thinks he can shoot anyone because he's a politician and nothing will happen. What you simple did here was to combine a number of factors that could make two people compatible and group it under education (the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university.). I'm sure you certainly agree with me on this. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by kenx27(m): 1:17pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Abeg make a vital stament. Alll these slaying queen dem, let me ask u, what is your aim of obtaining a degree?? By the way u sound, u may end up gettin a degree husband that will fustrates ur life. Wen u read a post like this, u are meant to comment maturely, not fighting with your teeth and nails, cos ur advance comments goes a long way to encourage or enlighten even motivate others MaritzL: These folks you are calling up and down are in a civilized society, they are in developed country where they learn worthy skills without a degree and are very fluent in English, the non degree holders here mostly can't even make a correct sentence, most of them. So I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I will keep correcting someone's grammatical errors and blunders, thereby making me feel embarrassed and ruining my image which means a lot to me. Also why I said our thinking level won't be the same is because most of these non-degree holders perceive you as acting or feeling big because you have a degree and they don't, I don't know if you are getting my point, you can't give him your opinion or advice as a husband without him saying "Is it because I didn't go to school" or reminding you of him not being a graduate, there is this inferiority complex they carry around , I'm not cut out for that shiit.
Also I never made mention of one having a degree will make him automatically smart, going to school or being in school is a guide not really what makes you smart. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by johhnnie(m): 1:19pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
grossintel: And these managers own a degree or an NBA? Venture capitalist firms invest on ideas, not certification. Yes, I have also seen investment bankers earn £1m but because they own a Bsc or an NBA? certainly not but because they are very talented and experienced in their respective fields! There are many brokers who earn far more than doctors in the US and we can't deny that as a fact. Now, my point was never to prove that certification is useless (Totally not), I totally support tertiary education. But judging intelligence by certification is completely fallacious. 70% of Americans don't have a college degree and that is a fact yet the best schools in the world are in America, but most job positions don't require a degree so who are the schools for? certainly not for Americans but international students who spend millions of dollars yearly to get a quality education and that is a good revenue stream for the government so why won't they spend a lot to keep the schools running? America is a land of opportunities and a Bsc or NBA is necessary but not required to be successful, you should know better, thank you. See, intelligence apart, your level of education and training will give you that platform before u can exhibit any form of ingenuity. Late MKO Abiola being a chartered accountant once said and I quote him " there are many chartered accountants in various villages in Nigeria who could have been better than he was if they had access to requisite education and platforms No broker earns £250k+ bonus even in the U.K. without the requisite training winch cummulatively would amount to graduate level certification. No one is born a broker except through training/ certifications and on the job experience. Brokerage and fund hedging require proven analytical prowess ( fundamental and technical ] which are statistical in nature. E.g trend analysis, moving averages, candle sticks etc. Even, converting global news worthy items to forecasting tools has rudimentary learning process. That's why some IVY league and others admit matured students with certain cognate experience to graduate studies because they believe that having attained certain cognate experience say 10 years , means that you must have gone through certain on the job certifications that if culminated would amount to requirements to enable you pursue a graduate level program. Also, what is the percentage of international students to domestic students in the recognised US schools? Learning to a B.Sc level training doesn't happen only within the 4 walls of a tertiary institution. It could be a cummulation of certain certifications coupled with cognate experience. Thank you And please, let's stay on issues without being insultive. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Oluwadare: 1:29pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
pocohantas:
Awww, you're so sweet, you got me smiling.
I never said I prefer them because they're intelligent or more successful than their uneducated counterparts. People who couldn't deal with individual choices started the semantics, which I didn't see the need for.
I actually went through your posts, there was something about the initial one I quoted that prompted that. Very few male NLders have caught my interest that way. I'll watch out for you
Words on marble, intents are very pure and no way condescending. No problem madam. You've caught my attention as well. Good day. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by oluwazoba: 1:36pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
MaritzaNL: These folks you are calling up and down are in a civilized society, they are in developed country where they learn worthy skills without a degree and are very fluent in English, the non degree holders here mostly can't even make a correct sentence, most of them. So I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I will keep correcting someone's grammatical errors and blunders, thereby making me feel embarrassed and ruining my image which means a lot to me. Also why I said our thinking level won't be the same is because most of these non-degree holders perceive you as acting or feeling big because you have a degree and they don't, I don't know if you are getting my point, you can't give him your opinion or advice as a husband without him saying "Is it because I didn't go to school" or reminding you of him not being a graduate, there is this inferiority complex they carry around , I'm not cut out for that shiit.
Also I never made mention of one having a degree will make him automatically smart, going to school or being in school is a guide not really what makes you smart. now you are talking. 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by tosyne2much(m): 2:22pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
grossintel: Your sense of reasoning seems to amaze me, you lack exposure and your mindset and understanding are greatly impinged by the messed up country you live in. Do you know how much you get paid for an hour work minimum without a degree in Sweden? $13, how about with a degree? $13. How about a technical education of the required field you work in? $15, $17,$18,$20, how about with years of experience and technical education? $100k per annum. Your country is messed up, out there no one cares about your degree, as long as you know how to do the job, that makes you qualified. Nigeria is messed up and incredibly corrupt, the reason why a lawyer can be the minister of power and housing. There is a huge difference between being educated and owning a degree, you simply have a flawed mindset of what a dropout should look like. I have a friend who dropped out of a uni in Nigeria because he is too intelligent to be schooled by Nigeria's applauding educational system. He went to a technical school for an IT course in the U.S.A and landed a job with a tech startup in bay area California (Silicon Valley), today he earns about $100k per annum. Of course, if he returns to Nigeria, he will be tagged an illiterate, why? over a worthless piece of paper that can be bought in Nigeria (literally), but in a developed country he's regarded a man of intellect. Back then in school I once had a heating argument with the most intelligent boys in my class, over an incredibly stupid statement. "Airplanes fly with black magic and demons make them fly", believe it or not, there are idiots like this with a first class in Nigeria, graduates who think javascript codes are spells or mathematics, graduates who think it's right for a military man to slap you for answering a phone call at a military checkpoint. You need a man who values education, but a degree? I'm not sure you know the difference. Spot on bro! 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by cuvox(m): 3:13pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
grossintel: Your sense of reasoning seems to amaze me, you lack exposure and your mindset and understanding are greatly impinged by the messed up country you live in. Do you know how much you get paid for an hour work minimum without a degree in Sweden? $13, how about with a degree? $13. How about a technical education of the required field you work in? $15, $17,$18,$20, how about with years of experience and technical education? $100k per annum. Your country is messed up, out there no one cares about your degree, as long as you know how to do the job, that makes you qualified. Nigeria is messed up and incredibly corrupt, the reason why a lawyer can be the minister of power and housing. There is a huge difference between being educated and owning a degree, you simply have a flawed mindset of what a dropout should look like. I have a friend who dropped out of a uni in Nigeria because he is too intelligent to be schooled by Nigeria's applauding educational system. He went to a technical school for an IT course in the U.S.A and landed a job with a tech startup in bay area California (Silicon Valley), today he earns about $100k per annum. Of course, if he returns to Nigeria, he will be tagged an illiterate, why? over a worthless piece of paper that can be bought in Nigeria (literally), but in a developed country he's regarded a man of intellect. Back then in school I once had a heating argument with the most intelligent boys in my class, over an incredibly stupid statement. "Airplanes fly with black magic and demons make them fly", believe it or not, there are idiots like this with a first class in Nigeria, graduates who think javascript codes are spells or mathematics, graduates who think it's right for a military man to slap you for answering a phone call at a military checkpoint. You need a man who values education, but a degree? I'm not sure you know the difference. LMAO.. Bravo bro. Bravo. A man here was just telling me how much I needed msc certificate to prove my intelligence and to get a job. I just looked at him, thanked him very much and let his opinions pass me by. Certificates are over rated. Rather hone my skills. 3 months on YouTube have taught me more programming than I learnt in my 4 years at school 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Ikville(m): 4:02pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
One can tell from most of d comments here dat d most ignorant people in Nigeria r d educated ones!!! What has a college degree gotta do wit common sense, or prosperity for dat matta? In fact, statistics will show dat d richest people in d world r school drop out! Dey make world headlines evryday in business, arts & humanity. Question is, what do people want in a marriage? Doz one need a university decree to be able to make a marriage work or successful? Y'all shud hav second thots cos u r missing d point.
Personally, if she fulfills my dreame in marriage & family, fvck college degrees. Wit d immorality & academic standards of our University system, graduates r losing their relevance! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by romeorailss: 6:13pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Lalas247: As long as he can speak good English and got something doing ...YES Ugh my dear I'm not educated at all o. I stopped at SSCE but I can speak grammar well. At least you can't find error in my written English . Pls marry me I like u and I like ukwu I won't lie. I will care for u I promise and show u love wantiti |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by trojan84(m): 7:44pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Chukwudi4naija: Intelligent and dumb at the same time? Ok. I meant both intelligent and dumb pple are trekking with files 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by gozie112(m): 8:09pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
omoiyamayor: Lol but they can open legs for specialspesh for a camry u crack my ribs man |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by MichaelBlake40: 8:24pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
YelloweWest:
Until the test of knowledge charges from examination to somethnic else, I beg to differ.
I degree holder is presumed to be educated until proven other wise. I can see that that's where the problem lies.May i remind you that the view that exam is a test of knowledge is flawed.Best in exam iz not the same as best in class/course.I have seen this myself.Anybody can cram for exams,write and pass.Besides what if you marry a degree holder who after marriage you realize is not as educated as you thought what are you going to do? Well its a matter of choice. 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by YelloweWest: 8:24pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
grossintel:
The lack of happiness in my sister's marriage is simply because she and her husband don't reason alike. I had to quote your exact words to show you don't agree with yourself. Why your sister and her husband don't reason alike is a simple case of Individual personality: Personality refers to individual differences in characteristic patterns of thinking, feeling and behaving. Same reason you didn't marry a course mate of yours from Northen Nigeria who believes in polygamy. But isn't he educated? You can marry a lawyer and reason alike when it comes to sections of the constitution that should be amended, but not general facts of life. I know a lady who married a lawyer husband after dating him for 10 years (began dating from sec school), they went to the same uni and graduated the same year. She went to law school and he turned to business trading on woods. Today he's a politician ( I won't mention his name because he is well recognized in Rivers state). This man hits his wife on every slightest provocation, he almost onces strangled her to death over the use of Facebook (He believes a married woman has no business on social media). He once threatened to kill me for aiding refuge to his wife. This is a lawyer husband married to a lawyer wife but thinks he can shoot anyone because he's a politician and nothing will happen. What you simple did here was to combine a number of factors that could make two people compatible and group it under education (the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university.). I'm sure you certainly agree with me on this. What inflencese the views of a northern? Is it not their Islamic religion? That's very clear na. Of course I can't marry a Muslim. We won't make a good union because of our differences. Like I said my sister's ideology is influenced by her education which her husband does not share. 2 Likes |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by YelloweWest: 8:29pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
MichaelBlake40:
I can see that that's where the problem lies.May i remind you that the view that exam is a test of knowledge is flawed.Best in exam iz not the same as best in class/course.I have seen this myself.Anybody can cram for exams,write and pass.Besides what if you marry a degree holder who after marriage you realize is not as educated as you thought what are you going to do? Well its a matter of choice. My argument is not solely based on a degree but more on education. I can tell within a 5minute conversation an educated person from an illiterate. It's not rocket science. |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Dasherz(f): 8:38pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
YelloweWest:
My argument is not solely based on a degree but more on education. I can tell within a 5minute conversation an educated person from an illiterate. It's not rocket science. I also hope you know that we have "educated illiterates"among us 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by MichaelBlake40: 8:38pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
YelloweWest:
My argument is not solely based on a degree but more on education. I can tell within a 5minute conversation an educated person from an illiterate. It's not rocket science. From what I've seen you seem to be clearly interested in degree holder that's why i faced you from that angle. 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by YelloweWest: 9:25pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
MichaelBlake40:
From what I've seen you seem to be clearly interested in degree holder that's why i faced you from that angle. Pls go back and read my original post and subsequent post. I even gave an example of my husband who does not have a degree in my field but is more knowledgeable than myself who does... |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by YelloweWest: 9:29pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Dasherz:
I also hope you know that we have "educated illiterates"among us Of course we do. When once they open their mouth it becaomes very clear the certificate was purchased. 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Dasherz(f): 9:30pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
YelloweWest:
Of course we do.
When once they open their mouth it becaomes very clear the certificate was purchased. ok atleast that's very clear |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Nobody: 10:49pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
A friend of mine who is a female medical doctor married another friend of mine who is just a farmer. So, it is very possible. Im a living witness 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by jamalchance(m): 11:16pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
Peachess:
You're just pained and it's obvious you have a low level of reasoning cos you let sentiments to cloud your judgements. Any sane person will know that's my opinion and respect it. Different people have different preference and only a bird brain like you will tell someone he reasons better just because she prefers something he's not, if you don't like it, well you can go go hell and kiss Satan's ass for all I care. Now who's soundin pained, well i just felt like making someone this angry ... Adios 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by akinwumiedward(m): 11:17pm On Oct 26, 2017 |
tosyne2much: Sorry for everything you've gone through bro.
It's circumstances that decide the height one will attain in this life and the fact someone is not privileged to be educated does not make them less of a person. It shouldn't give people the chance to look down on them just that we are in a society where discrimination and oppression thrive
Person wey dey wear boutique go discriminate against those wey dey wear okrika
Person wey get AC for him car go discriminate against person wey no get
Person wey go Covenant university to discriminate against person wey go LAUTECH
Person wey get big joystick go discriminate against person wey get short joystick
That's just the kind of society we find ourselves bro Thanks bro, God bless. But the last paragraph of your comment seems somehow funny.. 1 Like |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by MichaelBlake40: 12:03am On Oct 27, 2017 |
YelloweWest:
Pls go back and read my original post and subsequent post.
I even gave an example of my husband who does not have a degree in my field but is more knowledgeable than myself who does... K no problem |
Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 27, 2017 |
alexialin:
Correct guy! So right.
Some degree holders are nothing to write home about. Some not all. Likewise some men who didn't complete their tertiary education. It swings both ways.
Before any lady will attack me,
I graduated from a prestigious university in the west with, Bsc honors, Marine biology. So don't get it twisted. I simply look at the character and mindset of a man, that's after his good looks ,.
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Re: Ladies, Can You Get Married To A Non Degree Holder? by Nobody: 7:02am On Oct 28, 2017 |
yeyerolling: so attending a uni where all u did was cram and pour makes ur thinking higher lmao. NB- I had a 2.1, and i had friends with first class who bathed with soap during ebola or who believed IPOB lies easily my broda i wonder such stupid mentality that if u are a graduate ur reasoning would be higher than those wey no go skul. Abi them dey get lectures on reasoning ni. Ur reply is epic. 1 Like |