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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 11:20am On Oct 26, 2017
Gbenke:
TILING all about creativity.
it's quite nice,it's really all abt creativity,that's d reason for large toilet and most time(s) it's for master bedroom.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 11:22am On Oct 26, 2017
abdulwastecx:

You are so right o. It all boil down to client taste and specification
tnx,try n check few of my threads so u could d design i was talking abt
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:03pm On Oct 26, 2017
Wagasigiungu:


Nice submission sir. Could you please share some picx of the roofing style you described in your last paragraph above. It would really help sir. Thanks

Here is an example of a building with flat roof.
This five bedroom flat has a flat roof, as you can see from the picture, the roof is completely hidden and other building geometry is used to provide the necessary esthetics

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nwaorlu: 10:24pm On Oct 26, 2017
EgunMogaji:


I want concrete countertops but we'll see.

Did you do the concrete countertops? It is something I am interested in. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 4:32am On Oct 27, 2017
Timtol:

tnx,try n check few of my threads so u could d design i was talking abt

Kindly provide links sir. Some of us find it difficult navigating about nairaland. We will surely get better with time sha; We are learning.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 6:16am On Oct 27, 2017
alstacs:


Kindly provide links sir. Some of us find it difficult navigating about nairaland. We will surely get better with time sha; We are learning.
https://www.nairaland.com/do_share?post=61775334&session=065C2A69B878342806A867DD4272FD5F7E6534CC2589E901929D7C821E7CBFA3&redirect=%2F4001979%2Fall-need-start-building-housebuild%2F4%2361775334

https://www.nairaland.com/do_share?post=61606061&session=065C2A69B878342806A867DD4272FD5F7E6534CC2589E901929D7C821E7CBFA3&redirect=%2F4001979%2Fall-need-start-building-housebuild%2F4%2361606061
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by oladokuntk(m): 11:24am On Oct 27, 2017
abdulwastecx:


Here is an example of a building with flat roof.
This five bedroom flat has a flat roof, as you can see from the picture, the roof is completely hidden and other building geometry is used to provide the necessary esthetics
A very nice building. I love your Job Sir. Pls can I get to know you Sir, I am a Sales Excevcutive of CHEMSTAR PAINTS IND NIG LTD. (Manufacturers of Finecoat and Shield Paints) I love to supply You quality paints at affordable prices.
Pls Sir just drop me a beep on 08068183448. Mr Kehinde.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 7:27pm On Oct 27, 2017
Hi, I will like to seek your opinion on the comparison between both types of roof styles i.e. the flat roof hidden by parapet wall vs the high pitched style with coated sheets.

Comparison in terms of cost, durability, easy of construction, maintenance etc.
For sure we know the flat roof with parapet wall is far better aesthetically, but will like to know how the other factors compares assuming the same surface area to be roofed.

Thanks to help out with any useful info.

abdulwastecx:


Here is an example of a building with flat roof.
This five bedroom flat has a flat roof, as you can see from the picture, the roof is completely hidden and other building geometry is used to provide the necessary esthetics
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 7:31pm On Oct 27, 2017
Actually, any other person with relevant experience on this is more than welcome to chip in on this question. thanks

megacontrol:
Hi, I will like to seek your opinion on the comparison between both types of roof styles i.e. the flat roof hidden by parapet wall vs the high pitched style with coated sheets.

Comparison in terms of cost, durability, easy of construction, maintenance etc.
For sure we know the flat roof with parapet wall is far better aesthetically, but will like to know how the other factors compares assuming the same surface area to be roofed.

Thanks to help out with any useful info.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:44pm On Oct 27, 2017
megacontrol:
Hi, I will like to seek your opinion on the comparison between both types of roof styles i.e. the flat roof hidden by parapet wall vs the high pitched style with coated sheets.

Comparison in terms of cost, durability, easy of construction, maintenance etc.
For sure we know the flat roof with parapet wall is far better aesthetically, but will like to know how the other factors compares assuming the same surface area to be roofed.

Thanks to help out with any useful info.


From my own personal experience, having used both styles of roof, I will summarize there advantage and disadvantage as follows:

1. The low pitch roof with hidden parapet wall is cheaper
- The roof area is much smaller which result in lesser quantities of roofing materials
- Ordinary long span is used, which is much cheaper per square meters compared to stone coated roofing sheet
- The quantity of timber truss required is considerably smaller because of lower hight, longer spacing of purline, fewer number tie-beams, and rafters
- Cost of workmanship for both roof truss and workmanship is cheaper because of the smaller job required to be done.

2.Both are similar in durability
- this is a very close one between the two, a very good quality stone coated roofing sheet on a high pitch roof will last for a very long time provided that the color remains unchanged.the problem arises from a change of color which may render the roof looking ugly without any damages to the functionality of the building.
- A flat roof will make use of ordinary long span aluminum roofing sheet (most preferably 0.5mm gauge and above) which when done properly will last for a very long time, any changes in the appearance of the roofing sheet will have no effect on the look of the building since they are hidden by the parapet wall

3. The flat roof with low pitch and parapet wall is easier to construct than high pitch roof with stone coated roofing sheet

4. The flat roof with parapet is also easier and cheaper to maintain than high pitch stone coated roofing sheet
- The high pitch roof is harder and riskier to climbed during repair since the slope of the roof is steep and such can cause slippage easily compared to roof with relative gentle slope


For example, It will cost us about 800k plus for the wood, roofing sheet, accessories, logistics and workmanship to do the roof of this building below, While a similar building with high pitch and stone coated roofing sheet will cost about 3million naira

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 11:31pm On Oct 27, 2017
hi , everyone , i have budget of 4m to complete this bungalow , pls any site engineer around delta state interested ?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kolnel: 5:19am On Oct 28, 2017
abdulwastecx:


Here is an example of a building with flat roof.
This five bedroom flat has a flat roof, as you can see from the picture, the roof is completely hidden and other building geometry is used to provide the necessary esthetics

Boss
How do you deal with damping arsing from rain water percolating Into the wall
Felting doesn’t solve it at times
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by laplace19(m): 9:04am On Oct 28, 2017
AZUH:
hi , everyone , i have budget of 4m to complete this bungalow , pls any site engineer around delta state interested ?

I've a site engineer currently working in Delta state. He's a friend I do work with anytime but currently in umuahia. If you need his contact or mine, I'll forward it to you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 10:07am On Oct 28, 2017
AZUH:
hi , everyone , i have budget of 4m to complete this bungalow , pls any site engineer around delta state interested ?

hy 4M will do.Currently in Delta

Just finished working on a project at ughelli.

I can help you with the bungalow.


09056082348(call & Whatsapp)

raymondfubara@gmail.com
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 11:10am On Oct 28, 2017
FastShipping:


1. Windows Installation
2. Wall Plastering
3. POP Ceilings
4. Screeding
Plastering before POP ceilings?
Thought everything that had to do with ceiling go before plastering?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Daboomb: 11:26am On Oct 28, 2017
AZUH:
hi , everyone , i have budget of 4m to complete this bungalow , pls any site engineer around delta state interested ?

Chisos!

This building again?

I need to see the Pillars closely

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flashmove: 11:51am On Oct 28, 2017
abdulwastecx:


Here is an example of a building with flat roof.
This five bedroom flat has a flat roof, as you can see from the picture, the roof is completely hidden and other building geometry is used to provide the necessary esthetics

I like flat roofs where someone can decorate the up with flowers...

If you have pics of flat roofs in Nigeria, please share..

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:02pm On Oct 28, 2017
abdulwastecx:


From my own personal experience, having used both styles of roof, I will summarize there advantage and disadvantage as follows:

1. The low pitch roof with hidden parapet wall is cheaper
- The roof area is much smaller which result in lesser quantities of roofing materials
- Ordinary long span is used, which is much cheaper per square meters compared to stone coated roofing sheet
- The quantity of timber truss required is considerably smaller because of lower hight, longer spacing of purline, fewer number tie-beams, and rafters
- Cost of workmanship for both roof truss and workmanship is cheaper because of the smaller job required to be done.

2.Both are similar in durability
- this is a very close one between the two, a very good quality stone coated roofing sheet on a high pitch roof will last for a very long time provided that the color remains unchanged.the problem arises from a change of color which may render the roof looking ugly without any damages to the functionality of the building.
- A flat roof will make use of ordinary long span aluminum roofing sheet (most preferably 0.5mm gauge and above) which when done properly will last for a very long time, any changes in the appearance of the roofing sheet will have no effect on the look of the building since they are hidden by the parapet wall

3. The flat roof with low pitch and parapet wall is easier to construct than high pitch roof with stone coated roofing sheet

4. The flat roof with parapet is also easier and cheaper to maintain than high pitch stone coated roofing sheet
- The high pitch roof is harder and riskier to climbed during repair since the slope of the roof is steep and such can cause slippage easily compared to roof with relative gentle slope


For example, It will cost us about 800k plus for the wood, roofing sheet, accessories, logistics and workmanship to do the roof of this building below, While a similar building with high pitch and stone coated roofing sheet will cost about 3million naira



Well said Oga Abdul.. To add a few more things..

The roof you showed of your project is really good to explain some things.

Some people eliminate the use of tie-beams and just lap their rafters directly on the wall just to reduce cost.

Your roof is not just a flat roof, it has been re-designed with parapet walls which makes it more aesthetically pleasing. If we are considering the cost of roof, we have to add the cost of these parapet walls( blockwork, plastering, **rubber felting, water-proof painting). By then, it almost evens out.

There's no doubt flat roof is cheaper than a high pitch roof.

The only problem with this type of your parapet wall roof-in-wall design is possible leaking at the point where the woodwork meets the parapet well. Solution is felting which will also drive up cost.

Also, a high pitch roof will have more space inside of it for heat dispersion than a flat roof although that can be taken care of by other methods.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:21pm On Oct 28, 2017
Flashmove:


I like flat roofs where someone can decorate the up with flowers...

If you have pics of flat roofs in Nigeria, please share..

Bros these roofs are very possible here but more costly. This is because you have to lay rubber felt on the entire roof because our volume of rain.

Concrete slabbed roof.

In Africa, Its used mainly in the Northern Africa area (desert area). They have just 2 or 3 rainfalls in an entire year.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flashmove: 12:50pm On Oct 28, 2017
KolaShangOne:


Bros these roofs are very possible here but more costly. This is because you have to lay rubber felt on the entire roof because our volume of rain.

Concrete slabbed roof.

In Africa, Its used mainly in the Northern Africa area (desert area). They have just 2 or 3 rainfalls in an entire year.

My friend use wood to lay flat and zinc it, it really looks nice..... It saves money and cool for a unique ranks

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flashmove: 12:50pm On Oct 28, 2017
KolaShangOne:


Bros these roofs are very possible here but more costly. This is because you have to lay rubber felt on the entire roof because our volume of rain.

Concrete slabbed roof.

In Africa, Its used mainly in the Northern Africa area (desert area). They have just 2 or 3 rainfalls in an entire year.

My friend used wood to lay flat and zinc it, it really looks nice..... It saves money and cool for a unique ranks

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 1:48pm On Oct 28, 2017
Rubbiish:

Plastering before POP ceilings?
Thought everything that had to do with ceiling go before plastering?

No. You plaster before POP.

Think about it. If you do your POP and start plastering from bottom up, what do you expect to happen when cement mortar starts splashing and messing up your ceiling?

Nobody does POP before plastering.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 2:08pm On Oct 28, 2017
FastShipping:


No. You plaster before POP.

Think about it. If you do your POP and start plastering from bottom up, what do you expect to happen when cement mortar starts splashing and messing up your ceiling?

Nobody does POP before plastering.
Okay...i understand now. Thanks
But can other ceiling like PVC be done before plastering?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 2:27pm On Oct 28, 2017
Rubbiish:

Okay...i understand now. Thanks
But can other ceiling like PVC be done before plastering?

You have to plaster first before doing any ceiling.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:02pm On Oct 28, 2017
I will like to know the difference between steptile aluminium sheets made from "foreign coil" and the ones make in Nigeria (e.g Tower).
I'm supervising a roofing project in port Harcourt and I was given a price of 2300naira per meter of 0.45mm of steptile. The guys explanation is that, the Nigeria coil is better, durable and never fade. While the foreign coil would fade with time, and the price for 0.45mm/meter is 1900naira.
Based on this, l would sincerely like to verify his claims. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 3:20pm On Oct 28, 2017
kolnel:


Boss
How do you deal with damping arsing from rain water percolating Into the wall
Felting doesn’t solve it at times
Thanks

When properly done felting should solved such problem. We are going to felt the building and that will be enough to prevent moisture penetrating through the side.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 3:31pm On Oct 28, 2017
Daboomb:


Chisos!

This building again?

I need to see the Pillars closely
You made me pour hot coffee on my steering while perusing your comments today, your meme of Buhari is hilarious grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 3:33pm On Oct 28, 2017
FastShipping:


You have to plaster first before doing any ceiling.
okay thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 8:51pm On Oct 28, 2017
FastShipping:


You have to plaster first before doing any ceiling.
Since this is up for discussion now, let me ask more direct questions from my confused mind.
After plastering, would you advise I install the doors and windows before the POP? Or I should complete the POP? A friend told me to complete the POP first so as not to get the windows damaged and stained. However I'm wondering what happens to the POP with our torrential rain if there's no window.
Please help.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:13pm On Oct 28, 2017
Daboomb:


Chisos!

This building again?

I need to see the Pillars closely
PLZ I beg U Dnt START

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