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Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 10:57am On Oct 29, 2017
Why CIS and Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government

Let's start by defining the terms for those who are not familiar with them.

IGR: Internal Generated Revenue

CIS: Citizen's Income Sources


Now to the main subject matter

It is funny how Nigerians celebrate the rise of the IGR of their states without taking into consideration that a State can have a steady rise in her IGR while her indigenous people suffer hunger eg South West states and the rising able bodied beggars and street urchins, IMO & Abia states and the rising unemployed graduates, South South states and the rising number of militants.


Increase in IGR does not mean increase in the welfare standard of a state.

The most important thing beside security that those in government should focus on, is to increase the CIS of her indigenous people.

Government should focus more on programmes that can enable her people produce and sell whatever marketable goods & services they have to offer in order to increase their income.

When people's incomes increase, it will be possible for them to take away so much burden from the government by providing for themselves some of those basic amenities like good community hospitals, schools, roads, housing etc.

A country where her citizens depend so much on the government for survival, will definitely come to ruin with time.

A wise country, empowers her citizens to take care of themselves and place less burden on the government.



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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by tuniski: 11:01am On Oct 29, 2017
You are on point!

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:03am On Oct 29, 2017
Lol this is nonsense. If a state is able to generate good IGR, then she'll be able to put down infrastructure to aid development. Citizens, no matter how much they have won't build infrastructure. It's like driving a Lamborghini on a terrible road. Pointless. I know you're saying it because eastern states can't generate IGR due to low economic activity, but just stop this make me feel good nonsense. It's not like the citizen income in the East is high. You can only bobo those who haven't been there. They are all market states. Trade alone can't improve an economy

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:07am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:
Lol this is nonsense. If a state is able to generate good IGR, then she'll be able to put down infrastructure to aid development. Citizens, no matter how much they have won't build infrastructure. It's like driving a Lamborghini on a terrible road. Pointless. I know you're saying it because eastern states can't generate IGR due to low economic activity, but just stop this make me feel good nonsense. It's not like the citizen income in the East is high. You can only bobo those who haven't been there.



Not true.

Nigeria IGR increased when oil wealth was fully exploited starting from the end of the civil war.


Question for you

Did our standard of living increase.?

Is there any sign that our living standard will improve.?



Think well.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Atiku2019: 11:08am On Oct 29, 2017
A higher IGR will definitely lead to more Infrastructural Development in a State if the Governor or political stakeholders are sincere smiley

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:10am On Oct 29, 2017
If the citizens are buoyant as you people from that part of the country always claim, won't the government have enough taxable individuals to get high revenue? Again, this is pure balderdash

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:11am On Oct 29, 2017
Nigeria has increased her wealth through oil first after 1970 and gas during OBJ's time.


Has our living standards increase or decrease.?


NigerDelta states have increased their IGR through 13%, has it improved the lives of the people.?


Think Nigerians.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:12am On Oct 29, 2017
EternalTruths:




Not true.

Nigeria IGR increased when oil wealth was fully exploited starting from the end of the civil war.


Question for you

Did our standard of living increase.?

Is there any sign that our living standard will improve.?



Think well.

Lol. You're spitting rubbish. That Nigerian government didn't do anything with the oil money doesn't make IGR useless. Politicians are the ones who stole everything. Go to oil rich developed countries and see what they did with their revenues .

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:13am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:
If the citizens are buoyant as you people from that part of the country always claim, won't the government have enough individuals to tax to get high revenue?

Again, this is pure balderdash


It is the low taxation that is making it possible for the people to divert more money in empowering themselves.

Compare it with states with that over emphasize on boosting IGR through taxation.


Check the regions with the highest number of mud houses.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:13am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:
If the citizens are buoyant as you people from that part of the country always claim, won't the government have enough individuals to tax to get high revenue?

Again, this is pure balderdash


It is the low taxation that is making it possible for the people to divert more money in empowering themselves.

Compare it with states with that over emphasize on boosting IGR through taxation.


Check the regions with the highest number of mud houses. kiss
Rmxr:
If the citizens are buoyant as you people from that part of the country always claim, won't the government have enough individuals to tax to get high revenue?

Again, this is pure balderdash


It is the low taxation that is making it possible for the people to divert more money in empowering themselves.

Compare it with states with that over emphasize on boosting IGR through taxation.


Check the regions with the highest number of mud houses.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:16am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:


Lol. You're spitting rubbish. That Nigerian government didn't do anything with the oil money doesn't make IGR useless. Politicians are the ones who stole everything. Go to oil rich developed countries and see what they did with their revenues .


So you agree with me that the increase in IGR of Nigeria did not translate into better standards of living.

Thank you for accepting.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:18am On Oct 29, 2017
EternalTruths:



It is the low taxation that is making it possible for the people to divert more money in empowering themselves.

Compare it with states with that over emphasize on boosting IGR through taxation.


Check the regions with the highest number of mud houses.

Lol... What does your first sentence even mean grin If you don't tax, where will IGR come from . So your excuse is that eastern states have low IGR because the government isn't taxing the citizens. You people always come up with the most silly excuses lol. The purchasing power and individual wealth is low, hence the states are unable to generate enough via tax. Simple. I don't know the region with the most mud houses. If you have your stats, post them here.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:19am On Oct 29, 2017
Atiku2019:
A higher IGR will definitely lead to more Infrastructural Development in a State if the Governor or political stakeholders are sincere smiley

Also I tell you authoritatively that if the government focuses more on CIS, the people can also achieve those things they seek from government.


Why did Awolowo educate his people.?


Focus on what will put more money into your people's pockets.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:19am On Oct 29, 2017
EternalTruths:



So you agree with me that the increase in IGR of Nigeria did not translate into better standards of living.

Thank you for accepting.

It does, if it's put into good use. What you should be arguing about is what's being done with the IGR and not downplaying its significance

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:21am On Oct 29, 2017
EternalTruths:


Also I tell you authoritatively that if the government focuses more on CIS, the people can also achieve those things they seek from government.


Why did Awolowo educate his people.?

Oya tell us what the govt needs to do to generate higher CIS. We are waiting

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by DrGoodman: 11:22am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:
Lol this is nonsense. If a state is able to generate good IGR, then she'll be able to put down infrastructure to aid development. Citizens, no matter how much they have won't build infrastructure. It's like driving a Lamborghini on a terrible road. Pointless. I know you're saying it because eastern states can't generate IGR due to low economic activity, but just stop this make me feel good nonsense. It's not like the citizen income in the East is high. You can only bobo those who haven't been there. They are all market states. Trade alone can't improve an economy

Lies. Citizens do build infrastructure in Igboland. It's only in very poor regions like the south west that only government builds all infrastructure and even feeds their families with free rice grin

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by DrGoodman: 11:23am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:


Oya tell us what the govt needs to do to generate higher CIS. We are waiting

Provide security and other enabling environment

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:24am On Oct 29, 2017
DrGoodman:


Lies. Citizens do build infrastructure in Igboland. It's only in very poor regions like the south west that only government builds all infrastructure and even feeds their families with free rice grin

Lmaooo.. Is that why Aba is a shithole? grin This potopoto people sef cheesy

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by FarahAideed: 11:24am On Oct 29, 2017
This has always been my line of thought ..only Shallow govt will set its eyes on IGR as primary means of income

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:24am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:


It does, if it's put into good use. What you should be arguing about is what's being done with the IGR and not downplaying its significance


Have you asked yourself why Awolowo focused on educating your parents then.?


In case your don't know, it is to enable your people generate and sell marketable services only educated people can.


A wise leader focuses on programs that put more money into his people's pockets.
Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by DrGoodman: 11:25am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:


It does, if it's put into good use. What you should be arguing about is what's being done with the IGR and not downplaying its significance

That's why he told you to stop chest beating on useless Lagos IGR which goes into Tinubu Swiss bank accounts. grin

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:26am On Oct 29, 2017
DrGoodman:


Provide security and other enabling environment

And what does the government need to provide security and that enabling environment. Stone abi? grin Not everyone who goes to school is educated. You're a living proof cheesy

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:27am On Oct 29, 2017
FarahAideed:
This has always been my line of thought ..only Shallow govt will set its eyes on IGR as primary means of income

Nigerians don't understand how Germany became a striving society.

Germany has the highest number of family businesses.

Rmxr learn from the Germans.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by DrGoodman: 11:27am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:


Lmaooo.. Is that why Aba is a shithole? grin This potopoto people sef cheesy

Aba is a large commercial city which the Federal government abandoned all its roads to punish the region. Abia people are still building roads. Check out the the one built by Otti.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Blue3k(m): 11:27am On Oct 29, 2017
Citizen income sources ok. All that's well and good but that has more to do with business environment, upward mobility etc. Not many people using igr to measure wealth of average citizen so your premise is already off. We have stats like poverty index from UN and Cambridge (Which anabrans cry over yearly).

It is funny how Nigerians celebrate the rise of the IGR of their states without taking into consideration that a State can have a steady rise in her IGR while her indigenous people suffer hunger eg South West states and the rising able bodied beggars and street urchins, IMO & Abia states and the rising unemployed graduates, South South states and the rising number of militants.

IGR is about states ability to fund itself. As state becomes more sufficient they better able to provide infrastructure to enable development.

Increase in IGR does not mean increase in the welfare standard of a state.

Don't have an issue with the statements really but it has raised question. Has anyone actually sat down and looked at 5-10 year graph at trend? I'll probably look and see if there's correlation to be found.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by DrGoodman: 11:28am On Oct 29, 2017
Rmxr:


And what does the government need to provide security and that enabling environment. Stone abi? grin Not everyone who goes to school is educated. You're a living proof cheesy

The only thing Nigerian government is using to provide the non existent security is Niger delta oil money.
Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:29am On Oct 29, 2017
DrGoodman:


That's why he told you to stop chest beating on useless Lagos IGR which goes into Tinubu Swiss bank accounts.

Lol this one's brain is pentium 1 oh. Compare Lagos to any other state in Nigeria. Lagos IGR is being put into good use and that's why the state stays sucking the human resources of other states. There is a reason why everyone is running to Lagos including those from. Potopoto republic. They should be in their regions if their citizen income is high nah cheesy Funny thing is, Lagos isn't even generating enough for her size, yet the state towers above others. Tinubu is a business man. If you have any evidence the money goes to his accounts, show us

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:29am On Oct 29, 2017
DrGoodman:


That's why he told you to stop chest beating on useless Lagos IGR which goes into Tinubu Swiss bank accounts. grin


If only he knows that the governors pocket the so called IGR.


Wise governments focus on CIS and not IGR.


One day, he will understand.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:31am On Oct 29, 2017
Blue3k:
Citizen income sources ok. All that's well and good but that has more to do with business environment, upward mobility etc. Not many people using igr to measure wealth of average citizen so your premise is already off. We have stats like poverty index from UN and Cambridge (Which anabrans cry over yearly).



IGR is about states ability to fund itself. As state becomes more sufficient they better able to provide infrastructure to enable development.



Don't have an issue with the statements really but it has raised question. Has anyone actually sat down and looked at 5-10 year graph at trend? I'll probably look and see if there's correlation to be found.


Go and study the secret behind the German striving society.?

A leader who focuses more on CIS will end up having a German like society.


China is doing same.
Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by Rmxr: 11:33am On Oct 29, 2017
This is the most stupid argument I've read in a while grin They always console themselves with rubbish. If the CIS of potopoto region is high, why isn't the IGR high? When any of you is ready to answer that question, tag me.

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Re: Why CIS And Not IGR Should Be The Focus Of Government by EternalTruths: 11:34am On Oct 29, 2017
Blue3k I learnt through a documentary that China intentionally leak foreign technologies to her citizens so that they can increase their personal incomes by manufacturing theirs.

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