Good morning to you all,
Below is a conversation between me and a Christian lady. I'm seeking sensible answer to the questions raised.

I asked someone that, on what percentage can we actually believe Mary the mother of jesus wasn't penetrated by Joseph.

Her response was "100%".

Then I asked why 100%

She said cos the Bible said so.

Then I asked again, what if the Bible is/was lying

She said the Bible can never lie.

Then I asked her, can you become pregnant without any man coming close to you?

She became mute. Later responded non-affirmatively

Then I asked why?

She said cos it's impossible.

Then I asked her, do you believe god is same yesterday, today and forever?

She said yes.

Then I asked, why don't you believe what happened to Mary can happen to you since god is unchangeable.

She became mute again.

Then I asked her, why was jesus own unique and different?

She said cos jesus was divine.

Then I asked her, if jesus was different and Mary could become pregnant without been penetrated, how come did jesus come out through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth?

She couldn't answer the question. Please, anybody with answer or explanation

CC lalasticlala

Trying to unravel some mystery about God will only give u unnecessary headache. its not by force to believe God or wat d bible says.

You bad gan. When I was arguing the doctrine of hell fire with a lady, she was only saying, 'my pastor said, my pastor said'. Christians today are the product of indoctrination rather than commonsense. When I asked her if she can punish someone with eternal fire forever, she became mute. I guess she was more righteous than her god.

Oye0404:
Trying to unravel some mystery about God will only give u unnecessary headache. its not by force to believe God or wat d bible says.

nice answer

Oye0404:
Trying to unravel some mystery about God will only give u unnecessary headache. its not by force to believe God or wat d bible says.

God Almighty who created Allah, Yahweh, Mazda, Atum, Odin, Olorun, Eshu and other thousands of first beings will not give you headache because you are trying to talk about him. As a matter of fact, doing critical reasoning and having deep imaginations are among the reasons why God Almighty made we humans.

Doctufos: MCC 1:11-14

11. And God Almighty began to imagine how everything would go. And the imagination of God was unlimited, for he reasoned and imagined all things at once.
12. And the things which he imagined also are filled with Imaginations. And so continues endless imaginations.
13. And by one fragment of the imagination of God, there exist some beings. And these beings have similarities with God in his light form.
14. Now the names of some of these beings are Knoliud, Miklas, Urim, Chimides, Chaleb, Eartum who is also called Atum, Largas, who is also called Alla, Nymphidis who is also called Yahweh, Wanyioyi,... Abassi, Nzame, Nyame;

When will you people stop mixing the spiritual with physical humanity?

Jesus Birth was supernaturally engineered by magic. God-level magic. You cannot expect such a birth to be bound or in same level with a physically engineered birth.

Oye0404:
Trying to unravel some mystery about God will only give u unnecessary headache. its not by force to believe God or wat d bible says.

No wonder Jesus said "IT IS FINISHED"

OtemSapien:
God Almighty who created Allah, Yahweh, Mazda, Atum, Odin, Olorun, Eshu and other thousands of first beings will not give you headache because you are trying to talk about him. As a matter of fact, doing critical reasoning and having deep imaginations are among the reasons why God Almighty made we humans.

if u truly believe he created all u just mentioned den u shouldn't doubt His power to do anything nd everything.

Greene66:
When will you people stop mixing the spiritual with physical humanity?

I would like to ask a question and want you to respond honestly.

Why is that I don't need the holy spirit to understand Jesus died for you? Or god created the heaven earth?

Jesus Birth was supernaturally engineered by magic. God-level magic. You cannot expect such a birth to be bound or in same level with a physically engineered birth.

Same reason why I opened this thread. Why is it that jesus never defiled the natural route of delivery (ie vagina)

Oye0404:

if u truly believe he created all u just mentioned den u shouldn't doubt His power to do anything nd everything.

God Almighty who created Yahweh doesn't interfere in human affair to the extent of impregnating a human being. Rather, the gods such as Yahweh, Allah etc are capable of doing such thing. They can impregnate virgins without their consent in the homo Erectus realities, but now from 200,000 years back in the period of the homo sapiens, no god has visited this planet let alone impregnating a human being.
Once again, God Almighty who created the vast universe wouldn't stoop so low to rape a virgin in a lowly land of Judah.

OtemSapien:

You bad gan. When I was arguing the doctrine of hell fire with a lady, she was only saying, 'my pastor said, my pastor said'. Christians today are the product of indoctrination rather than commonsense. When I asked her if she can punish someone with eternal fire forever, she became mute. I guess she was more righteous than her god.

I've always wondered why a loving god would want to burn his children in an eternal fire.

Tahra:
I've always wondered why a loving god would want to burn his children in an eternal fire.

Such god must be in possession of 'unforgiving spirit'.

OtemSapien:
Such god must be in possession of 'unforgiving spirit'.

And must've terrible anger issues.

Tahra:
And must've terrible anger issues.

He should have seen a psychiatrist before his condition got worst to such an extent. I pity Yahweh's condition

OtemSapien:
He should have seen a psychiatric before his condition got worst to such an extent. I pity Yahweh's condition

Even they are scared. It is all-consuming,yunno?

adepeter2027:
Good morning to you all,
Below is a conversation between me and a Christian lady. I'm seeking sensible answer to the questions raised.

She said yes.

Then I asked, why don't you believe what happened to Mary can happen to you since god is unchangeable.

She became mute again.

She couldn't answer the question. Please, anybody with answer or explanation

CC lalticlala

It happened because it was prophesied

If it was prophesied, there will be a provision for it

By the way, what proof do we have that the supposed conversation was not cooked up to mislead

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Emmanuel means, God in our midst, in human form, and that person was the man, Jesus Christ

The Bible said, Christian walk by faith and not by reasoning

Off to church

adepeter2027:
Good morning to you all,
Below is a conversation between me and a Christian lady. I'm seeking sensible answer to the questions raised.

I asked someone that, on what percentage can we actually believe Mary the mother of jesus wasn't penetrated by Joseph.

Her response was "100%".

Then I asked why 100%

She said cos the Bible said so.

Then I asked again, what if the Bible is/was lying

She said the Bible can never lie.

The bible tells it as it is

adepeter2027:
Then I asked her, can you become pregnant without any man coming close to you?

She became mute. Later responded non-affirmatively

Cant explain why she was mute and got stumped

adepeter2027:
Then I asked why?

She said cos it's impossible.

I am glad she got her voice back
Exactly, it's impossible

adepeter2027:
Then I asked her, do you believe god is same yesterday, today and forever?

She said yes.

Then I asked, why don't you believe what happened to Mary can happen to you since god is unchangeable.

She became mute again

What happened to Mary can happen to her
but it will never happen because it is unneccesary, there is no need for it to happen again

adepeter2027:
Then I asked her, why was Jesus own unique and different?

She said cos Jesus was divine.

Then I asked her, if Jesus was different
and Mary could become pregnant without been penetrated,

how come did Jesus come out through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth?

She couldn't answer the question. Please, anybody with answer or explanation

CC lalasticlala

¹⁸This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about:
His mother Mary was pledged in marriage to Joseph,
but before they came together, she was found to be with Child through the Holy Spirit.
¹⁹Because Joseph her husband, a righteous man,
was unwilling to disgrace her publicly, he resolved to divorce her quietly.
²⁰But after he had pondered these things,
an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said,
“Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife,
for the One conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
²¹She will give birth to a son, and you shall give Him the name Jesus,
because He will save His people from their sins.”
- Matthew 1:18-21

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold,
but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
- John 10:1

Protocols and all, have to be adhered to,
and so, that's why, within the legitimate and permissible, Jesus came through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth
John 10:1, is the other reason, why He entered by that door and did not climb in by any other way

MuttleyLaff:
The bible tells it as it

No wahala, I'm following

Cant explain why she was mute and got stumped

Still following

I am glad she got her voice back

Hallelujah,

Exactly, it's impossible

You just contradicted yourself below

What happened to Mary can happen to her

Here is the contradiction

but it will never happen because it is unneccesary, there is no need for it happen again

You're just convoluting everything and contradicting yourself.

Anyways, why is it not necessary? Shey the Bible said God same yesterday, today and forever?
Furthermore, if it wasn't necessary, why are plasters still casting demons and marine spirits cos to me, they should be unnecessary too.

¹⁸This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about:
His mother Mary was pledged in marriage to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with Child through the Holy Spirit.
¹⁹Because Joseph her husband, a righteous man, was unwilling to disgrace her publicly, he resolved to divorce her quietly.
²⁰But after he had pondered these things, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said,
“Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife, for the One conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.
²¹She will give birth to a son, and you shall give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins.”
- Matthew 1:18-21

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold,
but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
- John 10:1

You said nothing. Instead, you Just piled up biblical verses.

Protocols and all, have to be adhered to,
and so, that's why, within the legitimate and permissible, Jesus came through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth
John 10:1, is the other reason, why He entered by that door and did not climb in by any other way

You still haven't answered the question raised.
Why would Mary defiled normal means of pregnancy but never or cannot defiled normal route of delivery.

Supernatural starting should follow supernatural paths.

I'm waiting pls

adepeter2027:
You just contradicted yourself below
Here is the contradiction
You're just convoluting everything and contradicting yourself.

You're out of your depth
You need a life jacket, you're in water too deep to stand in and you cant swim

adepeter2027:
Anyways, why is it not necessary?

You really dont seem to understand, isnt it?
Your low understanding of the bible or biblical verses, seriously, is a major handicap
It makes and will make progress on this thread, with you, difficult

adepeter2027:
Shey the Bible said God same yesterday, today and forever?
Furthermore, if it wasn't necessary, why are plasters still casting demons and marine spirits cos to me, they should be unnecessary too.

I know you meant to type "pastors" instead of "plasters"
You're mixing things up
Salvation, which is God's objective, achieved through Jesus and "casting demons and marine spirits"
are separate things and they each, are as different to each other, as chalk and cheese are

adepeter2027:
You said nothing. Instead, you Just piled up biblical verses

Sorry if you're biased to the bible
and dont understand or cant comprehend biblical verses

adepeter2027:
You still haven't answered the question raised.
Why would Mary defiled normal means of pregnancy

When the Holy Spirit came on Mary, and the power of the Most High overshadowed her, she defiled normal means of pregnancy by not having her egg fertilised by a human being but fertilised by the Holy Spirit
Re-read Matthew 1:18-21, it has the gist

adepeter2027:
but never or cannot defiled normal route of delivery

If John 10:1, is not useful and informative enough for you, to know why she never, cannot and would not defile the normal route of delivery,
then I dont know what else will

adepeter2027:
Supernatural starting should follow supernatural paths.
I'm waiting pls

You're pretending that you understand thing(s) when you dont
Its obvious your strength is small, you can't carry heavy weights, so please, what's your point in waiting?

MuttleyLaff:
You're out of your depth
You need a life jacket, you're in water too deep to stand in and you cant swim

You really dont seem to understand, isnt it?
Your low understanding of the bible or biblical verses, seriously, is a major handicap
It makes and will make progress on this thread, with you, difficult

I know you meant to type "pastors" instead of "plasters"
You're mixing things up
Salvation, which is God's objective, achieved through Jesus and "casting demons and marine spirits"
are separate things and they each, are as different to each other, as chalk and cheese are

Sorry if you're biased to the bible
and dont understand or cant comprehend biblical verses

When the Holy Spirit came on Mary, and the power of the Most High overshadowed her, she defiled normal means of pregnancy by not having her egg fertilised by a human being but fertilised by the Holy Spirit
Re-read Matthew 1:18-21, it has the gist

If John 10:1, is not useful and informative enough for you, to know why she never, cannot and would not defile the normal route of delivery,
then I dont know what else will

You're pretending that you understand thing(s) when you dont
Its obvious your strength is small, you can't carry heavy weights, so please, what's your point in waiting?

Are you done?

adepeter2027:



Then I asked her, can you become pregnant without any man coming close to you?

She became mute. Later responded non-affirmatively

Then I asked why?

She said cos it's impossible.

Then I asked her, do you believe god is same yesterday, today and forever?

She said yes.

Then I asked, why don't you believe what happened to Mary can happen to you since god is unchangeable.

She became mute again.

Then I asked her, why was jesus own unique and different?

She said cos jesus was divine.

Then I asked her, if jesus was different and Mary could become pregnant without been penetrated, how come did jesus come out through the vagina and never through the ANUS or mouth?

She couldn't answer the question. Please, anybody with answer or explanation

CC lalasticlala

This got Me laughing so hard...

Lol, I also asked a Christian lady if God sees every single thing, is he seeing people having sex? She muted.

adepeter2027:
Are you done?

Think about why you started this thread
Don't try to be what you're not, boring others with puerile posts

Don't start something that you can't finish
Don't start a fight if you can't quench it.

No, I am not done, if I hear music, my feet start moving

OP asked silly unreasonable questions and the lady was too dull to show how unreasonable the questions the OP asked her.

tintingz:
Lol, I also asked a Christian lady if God sees every single thing, is he seeing people having sex? She muted.

That's bad gan Actually God Consciousness cannot be sexually aroused by the physical appearances of his creatures, but Yahweh and Allah who are created by God, are subject to physical feelings though, so beware of those ones.

Doctufos: Adspiramen 2:27-29
27. Every living being, the male Homos like you all, has two lives to live in two different planets. The shapes of the planets you shall exist in these two times are in your scrotal sacs. You also have right to make your own life with the liquid that shall be generated from your sacs.
28. When Yahweh heard this, he smiled gently to himself and I knew the intention of his heart. Nymphidis, I called him before all. Do what you want to do, for no one can stop you from doing so.

29. Yahweh bowed before me and gave thanks to me.

MuttleyLaff:
Think about why you started this thread Don't try to be what you're not, boring others with puerile posts
Don't start something that you can't finish Don't start a fight if you can't quench it.
No, I am not done, if I hear music, my feet start moving

Since you're not yet done, I gat nothing to tell you.
But when you're done, let me know, then we can continue

Rilwayne001:
OP asked silly unreasonable questions and the lady was too dull to show how unreasonable the questions the OP asked her.

Oga Ade the reasonable guy, can you please attend to the question? And if you can't, abeg drift to ISLAM FOR MUSLIM section.

adepeter2027:
Since you're not yet done, I gat nothing to tell you.

But when you're done, let me know, then we can continue

The ball is in your court
You're the DJ, put the vinyl, let the music play

adepeter2027:

Oga Ade the reasonable guy, can you please attend to the question? And if you can't, abeg drift to ISLAM FOR MUSLIM section.

If I were the lady, before answering your mumu Question, I would first ask you, do you believe in God? Do you believe in his power? Do you believe he can do and undo? So your answers to these questions would be a pointer to further discussions.

It's just like telling you that there's a country in the UK called England, you disagreed by saying there's no country like that. And instead of limiting your ignorance to that disagreement, you start to ask me how many cities are in the UK? Is it not the UK thy you don't believe in? First you have to understand something first before asking about the attributes of that thing. In other words, you have to understand the concept of God first before asking about his attributes.

tintingz:
Lol, I also asked a Christian lady if God sees every single thing, is he seeing people having sex? She muted.

Yes He does indeed. She muted because she doesn't know much and probably she's doing it and felt guilty that God sees her doing it. Nothing is hidden before the omniscient God.

MuttleyLaff:
Think about why you started this thread
Don't try to be what you're not, boring others with puerile posts

Don't start something that you can't finish
Don't start a fight if you can't quench it.

No, I am not done, if I hear music, my feet start moving

Yes, and i will dance along.

Rilwayne001:
OP asked silly unreasonable questions and the lady was too dull to show how unreasonable the questions the OP asked her.

So you believed there was a lady? Wonderful, can't you see he made the story up?