komekn:


Yes and it rightly should be so.

Onomah has been playing first team football for Tottenham competing for a place with top quality world class international midfielders. Not surprisingly his opportunities have been limited.

Add to that he was the Anchor man on which England succes as the U20 World cup was based on. We had unprecedented situation where all the goals in that final match were scored by Nigerian origin players. The U20 world cup is a far better test of quality than the U17 as players are really mostly adult full professional players.

He chose to go to Aston Villa and has once again become the anchor man in midfield. Showing his true quality.

U20 football is not senior team football.

At this point, Onomah is not a sure starter for an average championship team like villa.

Onomah needs to make the international switch to be available for selection. So he is not an option now.

komekn:


The Norwegian league is ranked no 27 much below Azerbaijan and Cyprus. He plays for Sogndol Fc which is in the relegation zone, third to the bottom.

His contract is owned by Manchester city which means nothing in the context of quality. Has not even played for the academy. In reality when city ship you out to Norway and to a team third from bottom, you are simply not rated and just an investment gone sour.

To be a RB in the Norwegian league and to be considered quality you should be one of the 3 best RB's in the league. Mold and Rosenburg have shown some quality. But way off top European quality.

Finally, I am bewildered on what basis I am certain that we have far better prospects across far far better leagues in Europe. Who have shown quality and potential in league's with a far higher standard of quality and competitiveness. It seems brother Egunje has come through the back door.

Ola Aina has joined the national team but Shehu who plays in Cyprus has been easily one of Nigeria's best players.

Have you scouted Nwakali in the last couple of seasons? He has been very impressive in the norwegien league.

Who are the other options that are available right now ahead of Nwakali? Joel Obi played a game, one day before the list was released. It is not as if we are brimming with exceptional talent.

Who else?

forgiveness:


You wan compare Championship with Norway?

Norwegian league is considerably lower than the Championship I mean much lower. I would place it on the league 2 and just but probably closer to Vanarama national league in reality.

Surprisingly I was at a premiership academy and the U18 team of Mold came to play. Obviously they got thrashed in excess of 5 goals. I was talking to thier coaches and they explained the gulf of quality I'd massive buy it just helos remind them where they are. All they want to do is sell thier best players to premiership clubs. In addition outside of Rosenburg and Mold the rest clubs struggle.


There is Portuguese player I am very familiar with. Francisco Junior signed by Everton from Benfica with huge potential. Played on loan at Port Vale and Wigan in League one. He made it clear to me the quality in Norway was in his opinion lower than league one. When he compared the levels of football when he was sent on loan to Stromsgodset. Unfortunately he has now ended up in Norway playing there after near 4 years on Evertons books on a very good weekly wage.

I have another friend associat who is English a former premiership player who managed in the Norwegian league and very much shares the same sentiment. Poor quality in comparison to other leagues in Europe don't forget they are rated near number 30 in Europe.

komekn:


The proposition you make is the exception and not the rule.

However the fact remains overwhelmingly the best players will be found in the best leagues and best teams.

Shehu has done well in the SE but in reality we don't have a comparison to make to know how well. Until Aina plays as RB we really don't know how good he is in comparison.

I remember when Yobo played his first game at RB in the AFCON 2002 first game he relegated every contender and the rest is history. Prior to that time he was playing as a right winger for Marseille.

Shehu has simply been undroppable at right back. Aina will have to have perfect games to displace him. It is not a case of average performers replaced by an above average performer comes.

Shehu has been arguably the best player in multiple games.

komekn:


Norwegian league is considerably lower than the Championship I mean much lower. I would place it on the league 2 and just but probably closer to Vanarama national league in reality.

Surprisingly I was at a premiership academy and the U18 team of Mold came to play. Obviously they got thrashed in excess of 5 goals. I was talking to thier coaches and they explained the gulf of quality I'd massive buy it just helos remind them where they are. All they want to do is sell thier best players to premiership clubs. In addition outside of Rosenburg and Mold the rest clubs struggle.


There is Portuguese player I am very familiar with. Francisco Junior signed by Everton from Benfica with huge potential. Played on loan at Port Vale and Wigan in League one. He made it clear to me the quality in Norway was in his opinion lower than league one. When he compared the levels of football when he was sent on loan to Stromsgodset. Unfortunately he has now ended up in Norway playing there after near 4 years on Evertons books on a very good weekly wage.

I have another friend associat who is English a former premiership player who managed in the Norwegian league and very much shares the same sentiment. Poor quality in comparison to other leagues in Europe don't forget they are rated near number 30 in Europe.

Agree the Norwegien league quality is low. Ekong, our number 2 defender played there and did not do badly in the world cup qualifiers.

Dele Alli joined the premiership from league 1, so did Lookman.

Chrismario:



It's not about the quality of the league, it's more about the player.

I'm sorry if you are in lower league and you have quality it means you have an opportunity to dominate and rise above that standard. Giving yourself a higher rating and value.

Is he the best player in that league ok let's not be too optimistic he should be in the top 5 to be considered good enough for the SE, particularly if has spent more than one season.

It has taken Aina a few weeks to be declared the best RB in the championship. You could say the same for Tega Onomah and within weeks of Tega Abrahams playing for lowly Bristol city at the time he was top goal scorer in the championship.

There is no magic if you are quality it's not by assumption but by the evidence of your performance. The lower the league the greater the opportunity to shine and stand out.

komekn:


I'm sorry if you are in lower league and you have quality it means you have an opportunity to dominate and rise above that standard. Giving yourself a higher rating and value.

Is he the best player in that league ok let's not be too optimistic he should be in the top 5 to be considered good enough for the SE, particularly if has spent more than one season.

It has taken Aina a few weeks to be declared the best RB in the championship. You could say the same for Tega Onomah and within weeks of Tega Abrahams playing for lowly Bristol city at the time he was top goal scorer in the championship.

There is no magic if you are quality it's not by assumption but by the evidence of your performance. The lower the league the greater the opportunity to shine and stand out.

Onomah is not the best DM in the championship.

The coach has scouted him and want to see what he can offer. Let us see him play first.

Chidiebere Nwakali Goals this season: Cracking shot from outside the box

Fjøra - Sogndal 26. April 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFrzUotOBgg&t=71s

Sogndal - Aalesund 2. july 2017: Freekick from outside the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8efDJ8-j34&t=70s


Sogndal - Kristiansund: 2-0 20 August 2017.: Another cracking shot from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3NQDZCGVAk


Sogndal - Molde, Eliteserien, 01. october 2017: The best of the lot, cracking effort from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfHbag38bI&t=126s

Nwakali's goals from last year

Start - Aalesund 1 - 4 All Goals (NORWAY: Tippeligaen - 09.09.2016) : Smashing effort from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGe5OefwWY

AALESUNDS FK 1-1 IK START 16 May 2016: One on One with goalie, simple finish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmf4EkGZkk

Start - Bodø / Glimt 1 - 4 8 July 2016 : Strike from the edge of the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKZRrn4yP-c

Humility017:

that if....and if only the Rockies are not fielded in that match...

left to players like Henry, kelechi, etebo,nwakeme,John, ebuehi,awaziem,nwakali,aina to play...
Nigeria will win....this players wanna play their way into rohr's heart...they know this is an opportunity they must grab wit both hands...if they must break into first 11

It is even when we field those players you mentioned all at once that we will lose

tbaba1234:
Nwakali's goals from last year

Start - Aalesund 1 - 4 All Goals (NORWAY: Tippeligaen - 09.09.2016) : Smashing effort from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGe5OefwWY

AALESUNDS FK 1-1 IK START 16 May 2016: One on One with goalie, simple finish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmf4EkGZkk

Start - Bodø / Glimt 1 - 4 8 July 2016 : Strike from the edge of the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKZRrn4yP-c

Last year?

None from this year?

Mujtahida:

All the players that have not played any match or played few minutes: Ogu, Nwakaeme, Onyekuru, Ebuehi, Uche Agbo, Awaziem, Aina Etebo (he's now in that category). I am not naive to think that Rohr would feature all of them though but more than three could start.

Ehhhhh but I wouldn't be suprised if our midfield combo remains Mikel/Ndidi/Onazi atleast for the first 60mins and the middle controls the game so...

2017 sir

tbaba1234:
Chidiebere Nwakali Goals this season: Cracking shot from outside the box

Fjøra - Sogndal 26. April 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFrzUotOBgg&t=71s

Sogndal - Aalesund 2. july 2017: Freekick from outside the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8efDJ8-j34&t=70s


Sogndal - Kristiansund: 2-0 20 August 2017.: Another cracking shot from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3NQDZCGVAk


Sogndal - Molde, Eliteserien, 01. october 2017: The best of the lot, cracking effort from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfHbag38bI&t=126s

komekn:


Explain on what basis you used the term totally that means undoubtedly without question.

Please I want to be educated quite seriously.

I will.

We have seen that Rohr likes versatile players. Now this guy is a guy who can do a job as the engine room of a team, as the DMF or as a LB, now I haven't watched Tega and he may deserve his spot but for Tega to come in, another midfielder has to leave but for Nwakali to come in nobody has to leave, we only have one leftback in the team currently and that makes his inclusion a no brainer. I have been clamouring for a LB who actually plays at LB and if Nwakali can do that job we are set for 7-8 years to come and he sure does have the quality

Icon4s:


Last year?

None from this year?

This year was also posted...

See: https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-russia-2018/1965#61927361

Lucque:
2017 sir

??

Mujtahida:

I began typing to address the needless attack on the person of forgiveness but I just stopped. Forgiveness has his queerness and eccentricities but I do not think it's gotten to the level of using such disparaging words on him as realpoacher did. No! Cos he's shown considerable maturity in not hurling back invectives. Personally I don't think I would take such insults. Lie lie

Exactly. I think people have made a habit of having a go at Forgiveness for no sane reason. Will you agree with me that if it was Forgiveness that said we will lose to Algeria they would attack him for that? I think this effect is from the older members of the thread, I really admire arguments between tbaba and the same forgiveness, between Komekn and anybody who wants to counter his points, theGoodjoe can go low sometimes but 95% of the time he maintains his cool and this is also why I appreciate guys like you and Soentaoroluwa(hope the spelling is right this time ). I think we should adopt these kinda behaviour

Una no even shame, na person wey dey play for Norwegian league una dey defend say Rohr call up. I like the team selection but that Chidiebere Nwakali selection got me scratching my head since I saw that list this morning. So out of the hundreds of Nigerian Players in Europe...

Forgiveness I don't think Rohr has being bribed, I just think someone asked him for a big favour and he obliged. Because honestly Chidiebere Nwakal'si inclusion doesn't pass the smell test but hey we might be pleasantly surprised; most likely though, I doubt he will play in any of the 2 games.

ykalhaji:
Una no even shame, na person wey dey play for Norwegian league una dey defend say Rohr call up. I like the team selection but that Chidiebere Nwakali selection got me scratching my head since I saw that list this morning. So out of the hundreds of Nigerian Players in Europe...

Forgiveness I don't think Rohr has being bribed, I just think someone asked him for a big favour and he obliged. Because honestly Chidiebere Nwakal'si inclusion doesn't pass the smell test but hey we might be pleasantly surprised; most likely though, I doubt he will play in any of the 2 games.

Who are your better options at DM that are currently fit?

I am not sure of Nwakali's readiness for national team duty but the coach must have reviewed scouting reports to invite him. How many Nigerian players score the type of goals that Nwakali has scored in the last couple of seasons?

komekn:


I'm sorry if you are in lower league and you have quality it means you have an opportunity to dominate and rise above that standard. Giving yourself a higher rating and value.

Is he the best player in that league ok let's not be too optimistic he should be in the top 5 to be considered good enough for the SE, particularly if has spent more than one season.

It has taken Aina a few weeks to be declared the best RB in the championship. You could say the same for Tega Onomah and within weeks of Tega Abrahams playing for lowly Bristol city at the time he was top goal scorer in the championship.

There is no magic if you are quality it's not by assumption but by the evidence of your performance. The lower the league the greater the opportunity to shine and stand out.

Your first paragraph is obvious and I'm not doubting that.

Onomah has done nothing too special in Aston villa just like as he was nobody in Tottenham. Some good players stays years in obscured league due to work permit issues or lack of good suitors. I'm not trying to say that he has been collecting MOTM but Onomah is no much better than him.

If he was opportuned to be raiseed in England, I'm quite sure he do be in EPL or at most, championship. His invitation was unexpected truly but declaring with authority that Rohr don collect backhand is out of it.

He has been giving good performances for a while.

Icon4s:


It is even when we field those players you mentioned all at once that we will lose

sir I don't think so...let's keep our fingers crossed...though.
I know for sure...the Algerian coach is just making mouth the other one did same then...only to be beaten well.

komekn:


The proposition you make is the exception and not the rule.

However the fact remains overwhelmingly the best players will be found in the best leagues and best teams.

Shehu has done well in the SE but in reality we don't have a comparison to make to know how well. Until Aina plays as RB we really don't know how good he is in comparison.

I remember when Yobo played his first game at RB in the AFCON 2002 first game he relegated every contender and the rest is history. Prior to that time he was playing as a right winger for Marseille.

This is not a competition between Aina & Shehu. It's just an eye opener.

Good players are expected to be in the best leagues but some of them are just unlucky.

tbaba1234:


This year was also posted...

See: https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-russia-2018/1965#61927361

ok

Humility017:

sir I don't think so...let's keep our fingers crossed...though.
I know for sure...the Algerian coach is just making mouth the other one did same then...only to be beaten well.

My brother, I don't doubt we can win that match. But I am telling you we may not win that game.

komekn:


Yes and it rightly should be so.

Onomah has been playing first team football for Tottenham competing for a place with top quality world class international midfielders. Not surprisingly his opportunities have been limited.

Add to that he was the Anchor man on which England succes as the U20 World cup was based on. We had unprecedented situation where all the goals in that final match were scored by Nigerian origin players. The U20 world cup is a far better test of quality than the U17 as players are really mostly adult full professional players.

He chose to go to Aston Villa and has once again become the anchor man in midfield. Showing his true quality.

He chose to go to Aston Villa.......
You re saying as if he had the chance to go to Bournemouth.

Onomah and Nwakali is almost the same.
I want him to play for SE though but discrediting KC to boost his stand is just ridiculous.

tbaba1234:


Who are your better options at DM that are currently fit?

I am not sure of Nwakali's readiness for national team duty but the coach must have reviewed scouting reports to invite him. How many Nigerian players score the type of goals that Nwakali has scored in the last couple of seasons?

I don't understand why some persons kept crying over chidi inclusion.....

the dude deserve to be there no stories...at all.
I have watched his clips and all I see is potentials...
I remember troost ekong severally was invited for SE games even though he play in Scandinavian league....
mind you...he never disappoints.
talent wise chidi has it....so I definetely know he will prove doubters wrong.

do you know that guy...is one of the most hardworking young Nigeria player....where he is today is as a result of hardwork..
I remember some years back...when I saw him sign for Manchester city I laughed thinking he has no the talent to even make their feeders team let alone play for city...

but today the dude refused to give up despite a poor start to life...in europe
he keep working hard every season....
had it been the rest players from his under 17 set have same determination and put in same hardwork like he did...

it could have been a different story all over...
I am so proud of him....he knows hardwork brought him this far...and I am sure he will continue to work hard.

let those who wanna cry.....cry me an ocean..I dont care...

The games against Algeria and Argentina will be used as testing ground for new strategies. I believe that the team list will continue to carry a few new names/surprises till close to the world cup.

forgiveness:


How do we discribe a failure in LA liga 2 division?

how many seasons ago

komekn:


The Norwegian league is ranked no 27 much below Azerbaijan and Cyprus. He plays for Sogndol Fc which is in the relegation zone, third to the bottom.

His contract is owned by Manchester city which means nothing in the context of quality. Has not even played for the academy. In reality when city ship you out to Norway and to a team third from bottom, you are simply not rated and just an investment gone sour.

To be a RB in the Norwegian league and to be considered quality you should be one of the 3 best RB's in the league. Mold and Rosenburg have shown some quality. But way off top European quality.

Finally, I am bewildered on what basis I am certain that we have far better prospects across far far better leagues in Europe. Who have shown quality and potential in league's with a far higher standard of quality and competitiveness. It seems brother Egunje has come through the back door.

please can you help us to name the people with far better prospects across far far better leagues in Europe who should have been called ahead of him??

tbaba1234:
Chidiebere Nwakali Goals this season: Cracking shot from outside the box

Fjøra - Sogndal 26. April 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFrzUotOBgg&t=71s

Sogndal - Aalesund 2. july 2017: Freekick from outside the box


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8efDJ8-j34&t=70s


Sogndal - Kristiansund: 2-0 20 August 2017.: Another cracking shot from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3NQDZCGVAk


Sogndal - Molde, Eliteserien, 01. october 2017: The best of the lot, cracking effort from way out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHfHbag38bI&t=126s

Scoring against quack teams is not crackers but mediocre. Chidiebere Nwakali failed in la liga 2.

Local champion could only in shine lowly Norway with a relegation threatened club.

tbaba1234:


Who are your better options at DM that are currently fit?

I am not sure of Nwakali's readiness for national team duty but the coach must have reviewed scouting reports to invite him. How many Nigerian players score the type of goals that Nwakali has scored in the last couple of seasons?

Sir Tbaba1234, I have deep respect for you on this Thread, same goes to few Monikers as well but you ain't being objective on this Nwakali Issue.

Do we need to bombard the Team with too many DMs.... Ogu, Agu, Onazi, Ndidi, Mikel etc?! Muazam should have made the Team instead of Nwakali cos he's a regular Starter for his Club, remember he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Mickael2 has made a valid Point that justifies his Inclusion in the Team - that he's a versatile Player that can also play as a LB comfortably and I think we should take it like that, since Echiejile was left out due to Injury.