daveP:
What of that standby na? no Larrykay sef... im watching the Nwakali in 10D!!

I'm beginning to think that the richest man in africa is his agent@the 3rd Nigerian at Leicester.

maybe Larrykay doesn't fit into the coach's requirement.

Sometimes, a player may be great, but if the coach doesn't like your style of play, you never really get to play. I think it has been said here multiple times that Rohr would be in a better position to know who he needs because he gets to see them in camp.

And as for Musa? His day is coming, if that guy gets injured one day and he has to be replaced and the replacement puts in a good performance, he's done

soetanoreoluwa:


You are very right... But I don't Rohr changing all the players... Maybe two or three...

Left back for Aina... Thesame midfield combination.. Simon iwobi then nacho...


Depend on the game momentum... Henry... Ogu... Ighalo...

My thought!

Or either Ndidi or onazi sit on bench... For Ogu or Agu...

Let see

You observed the intensity with which we played our earlier 5 games. If this team will give up to 80% of that kind of intensity then we'll be fine. But can they? That is my worry.

You saw what happened between home based Eagles and Ghana at WAFU cup. Ghana was through but Nigeria needed the win more. And we got it. Several games like these have played out that way.
Now we are through, Algeria needs this win more even though they are out.

The team psychologist has a lot to do here.


A note of warning: That Algerian team is not entirely bad o. I still have respect for them.

Mickael2:



Exactly. I think people have made a habit of having a go at Forgiveness for no sane reason. Will you agree with me that if it was Forgiveness that said we will lose to Algeria they would attack him for that? I think this effect is from the older members of the thread, I really admire arguments between tbaba and the same forgiveness, between Komekn and anybody who wants to counter his points, theGoodjoe can go low sometimes but 95% of the time he maintains his cool and this is also why I appreciate guys like you and Soentaoroluwa(hope the spelling is right this time ). I think we should adopt these kinda behaviour

Please who are the older members?coz we need to call a spade a spade,this is a forum and i don't see reason for insult or we personalize things just to score a point and the worst part of it tagging someone being TRIBAL coz he is expressing his views.

We cannot reason the same way and we need to accept that facts, this is a football thread were a lot of arguments w come in with different opinions,so why attacking to drive our points.

I want us to know that Rohr is not god coz some don't want any criticism against Rohr and for us to move forward we need to evaluate his team,invitations, selection, tactics etc

Forgiveness comment on Nwakili invitation is normal in football circles but calling Rohr fraud is out of it.

Nwakili invitation came from nowhere and a lot were surprised even on this thread but funny enough some are saying he justified the invitation which I personally disagreed.

If we want to based it on DM i can tell u something is fishing coz Anderson Esiti is there and have a better performance than Nwakili but as u said Rohr love versatility players,may be that give Nwakili advantage.

My grouse with Forgiveness is calling Rohr corrupt due to Nwakili invitation, honestly Rohr must have his reason to do so and we must respect his decision but we have every right to criticise him.

Chrismario:


He could not cut it in Laliga 2 but that was then

A lot has changed since then.



Onomah who was warming bench and playing in nonsense cup games.

A living dog is better than a dead lion.

18 or 17, how does that remove from my logic?

My point is you expect Gernot Rohr to compare Nwakali now to Azeez then. That's ridiculous!
Azeez was called up then.. No foul play.

Nwakali just got called up for his recent performances, no foul play.
It's simple logic.

forgiveness:


Chidiebere Nwakali is 21 years this year. How can he 17 years old 3years ago?

Ramon started playing in LA liga 2 at just 19/20 years of age. No excuse .

Ramon Azeez deserved to be part of that team because he played regularly in LA liga for two seasons.

Chidiebere Nwakali failed woefully in LA liga 2. He couldn't perform atva higher level than Norway.

I presumed they want to use the national team to boost his chances of getting visa in UK. Just the same way they did for Ndidi.

I av seen so many opinions on chidi nwakali,but I careless abt d opinions anyway,BT I hope anoda Thesupernerd scenerio won't occur again over d invitation of chidi ,let's all b mature when making comments, we shldnt b emotional with our comment dereby throwing trantrums at each oda.




After all,we re not ROHR,our opinions/suggestion of players to b invited stays here,weda we like it or not

Mickael2:



the things that keep this thread going include, among others, respect and tolerance. You literally just attacked the person himself instead of countering his points, that is totally uncalled for and should not be promoted

Forgiveness attacked Rohr's person by blatantly accusing him of corruption WITHOUT proof.

Why don't you call forgiveness to order first? Respect begets respect, you cannot be disrespectful to one man and expect another to be respectful to you


He questioned Rohr's integrity without trying to look at the list from a logical point of view because logic is something forgiveness would rather discard when his boys are not in the team.


Mickael2, just like Chris advised me when Supernerd had that issue with Piet, talk to your friend first and stop telling us what keeps this thread going, because, in case you have forgotten, it is forgiveness and his spurious, careless words that have caused numerous arguments on this thread.

He is a constant with that, forgiveness needs to be called to order, if his person has to be dragged to ensure he does not get away with dragging the man who has had a stellar record in our National team, by all means, we should drag him.

Between an anonymous internet analyst like Forgiveness and the coach of a top African football team, whose personality should be protected? Or do you think the weight of allegations of corruption is something that should be treated with tender hands?

Forgiveness should tender an unreserved apology to Rohr and drop his idiotic arguments. That is what should happen here

forgiveness:



A living dog is better than a dead lion.

Bhahahaahahahaha......dats your voice

Onomah is now Messi all of a sudden. The guy no even wan represent us.

He was not even good for Tottenham's bench.

forgiveness:



A living dog is better than a dead lion.

I love this guy!!

tbaba1234:


Onomah is not the best DM in the championship.

The coach has scouted him and want to see what he can offer. Let us see him play first.

This is not club football it's the national team you don't scout players you select players according to the evidential basis that is presented by thier individual performances in thier club. The national team is not a proving ground it's a testing ground to replicate your club performance at National level.

That is further assessed by the quality of the club and the quality of the league you play in. The position of the club and the circumstances within the club. i.e. number of world class players in the club that the player is contending with, number of games played, mitigating circumstances, etc

That's why we have bench warmers in top clubs that leave and become stars in lower clubs and or leagues. Or vice versa drop a league or clubs because thier quality does not match the league quality.

I wouldn't class Tega Onomah as a defensive midfielder he's much more of an attacking midfielder. Nonetheless, he is rated as the best young midfielder in the championship and fifth best according to transfermarket.co.uk ( I do not consider these assessments asconclusive)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerte/wettbewerb/GB2/plus//galerie/0?pos=Mittelfeld&detailpos=10&altersklasse=alle

The subject matter is fluid and subjective and so I regard them as indicative. But it's indicative of Tega Onomah's quality don't forget he anchored England to win the U20 world Cup, that's a very big accolade of quality. The U20 world cup is not just a youth cup like the U17cup. You have experienced players from top clubs and top leagues.

It's somewhat more difficult to assess the quality of a Midfielder with statistics because the variables are really too many. The type of football played, team strategy, etc

Football is not rocket science it's still largely simplistic
best players play in the best leagues and the best teams.

Do you think a national team coach in Europe could pick a player in very low rated league and team. Without clear cut justification and evidence for all to see. Why do you think it's almost impossible to see a championship player in the English national team.

How many obscure players in very low level league do you see invited to the German, French, Dutch, Belguim national teams. I would say never and impossible. In the name of scouting answer, NONE.

This might sound funny but I think VicMo should have been on the List except he didn't want to. He's injured, but being around with the Lads at the Camp; celebrating with the Team for the official completion of the qualifying Matches; having the Opportunity to see the Team Plays against Stars-studded Argentine Team would have been a morale BOOST for him.

In Addition, the Friendly Game is scheduled to take place in Russia - the host Nation. This would have been a great Opportunity for him and the Rest of the Team to acclimatize with the Whether in Russia.

Hazard, while he was still injured, always got a Call up from the National Team Coach. This is simply a mean of encouraging Players that the Coaching Crew care for them.

Icon4s:


People say things here but how you say it would always give away your intent of saying it.

I have said we may not win against Algeria and I have given reasons. It is different from saying because my favorite kind of players were not invited we will lose.

Let's be careful how we react to people's comments so no one feels victimised.

We are all adults here, and are liable to consequences of every thing we say.

I don't see Vic Moses as someone who is easily thrilled by eagles qualification. Either maybe he has been there before,or morestill he has won more accolades hence no need to be high over some qualifications. .
...
He just seems to me like someone who just does his things when called up

Chrismario:



Bhahahaahahahaha......dats your voice

Onomah is now Messi all of a sudden. The guy no even wan represent us.

He was not even good for Tottenham's bench.

He was always on Tottenham bench played 30 games for Tottenham in two seasons and started as a 17 year old.

The other part of the story is who is ahead of him Lamela (Argentina), Winks, Dele Alli, Dier (England), Wanyama (Kenya), Dembele (Belguim), Sissoko (France), Eriksen (Denmark) all these players are proven tested international with a price range of £25 million and above apart from Winks.

How many 20 year old players in the world face that level of competition in the midfield. I would suggest None. How many Nigerian international current and past have ever faced that level of competition.

Finally do you know how many loan moves Harry Kane had before he became the deadliest striker in the premiership. Now Real Madrid are looking at him and every top club with big money.

So let's get things in perspective. Onomah is outstanding quality.

Let me put you in Rorh's situation. You have your scouts and you tell them you are looking for more defensive midfield options. You have looked at Agu, Ogu, but you want to see a player that scores crackers. Your scouts go to work, who will they recommend?

My point is you don't know what Rorh is looking for at every particular moment. The building of a team is a gradual process. We should expect maybe more new names in his next invitation, depending on how the team has taken shape and the qualities Rohr wants to add.

Muazam is not an LB. Rohr already has the LB covered with Ebeuhi and Aina available.

Oasis007:


Sir Tbaba1234, I have deep respect for you on this Thread, same goes to few Monikers as well but you ain't being objective on this Nwakali Issue.

Do we need to bombard the Team with too many DMs.... Ogu, Agu, Onazi, Ndidi, Mikel etc?! Muazam should have made the Team instead of Nwakali cos he's a regular Starter for his Club, remember he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Mickael2 has made a valid Point that justifies his Inclusion in the Team - that he's a versatile Player that can also play as a LB comfortably and I think we should take it like that, since Echiejile was left out due to Injury.

Lucque:
2017 sir

the second goal was from set peice....

Joebie:
Let me put you in Rorh's situation. You have your scouts and you tell them you are looking for more defensive midfield options. You have looked at Agu, Ogu, but you want to see a player that scores crackers. Your scouts go to work, who will they recommend?

My point is you don't know what Rorh is looking for at every particular moment. The building of a team is a gradual process. We should expect maybe more new names in his next invitation, depending on how the team has taken shape and the qualities Rohr wants to add.

Muazam is not an LB. Rohr already has the LB covered with Ebeuhi and Aina available.

moreover iwobi,mikel and etebo can play the AM....role...nacho to an extent..
though I won't play etebo and nacho as AM had it been I was the coach

Icon4s:


People say things here but how you say it would always give away your intent of saying it.

I have said we may not win against Algeria and I have given reasons. It is different from saying because my favorite kind of players were not invited we will lose.

Let's be careful how we react to people's comments so no one feels victimised.

We are all adults here, and are liable to consequences of every thing we say.

You are right... The bolded part is the koko!

komekn:


He was always on Tottenham bench played 30 games for Tottenham in two seasons and started as a 17 year old.

The other part of the story is who is ahead of him Lamela (Argentina), Winks, Dele Alli, Dier (England), Wanyama (Kenya), Dembele (Belguim), Sissoko (France), Eriksen (Denmark) all these players are proven tested international with a price range of £25 million and above apart from Winks.

How many 20 year old players in the world face that level of competition in the midfield. I would suggest None. How many Nigerian international current and past have ever faced that level of competition.

Finally do you know how many loan moves Harry Kane had before he became the deadliest striker in the premiership. Now Real Madrid are looking at him and every top club with big money.

So let's get things in perspective. Onomah is outstanding quality.

yes he is of an outstanding quality...
the player we are talking of...is an English player the last time I checked.
so how is it possible to field an English player against Algeria and Argentina?

moreover.......when he is ready to switch nationality he will contact rohr...
but for now...we will make do with what we have....chidi is one of the best youngsters we have now....so we gonna make do wit him.

and for onomah....he is top quality but we can't field or invite him now...mind you the nff is being careful no need invite a player that will do another Tammy Abraham on us....

Sometimes I wonder how many championship players get called up by national team coaches. Your measurement of the quality of the English second tier is subjective. I said it before that I don't think Rohr has a high opinion of the championship. Of course we know very well that Aina was with Chelsea's main team when we started the push for him.

Anyway I could be wrong, but don't forget that most of these lads you are clamoring for need to make a switch first. Not like they can be called up right away. So why the noise?

The question remains are there other Defensive Midfield options out there? Azubuike Okechukwu, the younger Nwakali, and Ramon Azeez comes to mind. Of the these, none are clearly ahead of Chidiebere. It's not about who get's the chance first, it's about who grabs their chance with both hands. Hence, there is no cause for alarm.

komekn:


This is not club football it's the national team you don't scout players you select players according to the evidential basis that is presented by thier individual performances in thier club. The national team is not a proving ground it's a testing ground to replicate your club performance at National level.

That is further assessed by the quality of the club and the quality of the league you play in. The position of the club and the circumstances within the club. i.e. number of world class players in the club that the player is contending with, number of games played, mitigating circumstances, etc

That's why we have bench warmers in top clubs that leave and become stars in lower clubs and or leagues. Or vice versa drop a league or clubs because thier quality does not match the league quality.

I wouldn't class Tega Onomah as a defensive midfielder he's much more of an attacking midfielder. Nonetheless, he is rated as the best young midfielder in the championship and fifth best according to transfermarket.co.uk ( I do not consider these assessments asconclusive)

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/marktwerte/wettbewerb/GB2/plus//galerie/0?pos=Mittelfeld&detailpos=10&altersklasse=alle

The subject matter is fluid and subjective and so I regard them as indicative. But it's indicative of Tega Onomah's quality don't forget he anchored England to win the U20 world Cup, that's a very big accolade of quality. The U20 world cup is not just a youth cup like the U17cup. You have experienced players from top clubs and top leagues.

It's somewhat more difficult to assess the quality of a Midfielder with statistics because the variables are really too many. The type of football played, team strategy, etc

Football is not rocket science it's still largely simplistic
best players play in the best leagues and the best teams.

Do you think a national team coach in Europe could pick a player in very low rated league and team. Without clear cut justification and evidence for all to see. Why do you think it's almost impossible to see a championship player in the English national team.

How many obscure players in very low level league do you see invited to the German, French, Dutch, Belguim national teams. I would say never and impossible. In the name of scouting answer, NONE.

komekn:


He was always on Tottenham bench played 30 games for Tottenham in two seasons and started as a 17 year old.

The other part of the story is who is ahead of him Lamela (Argentina), Winks, Dele Alli, Dier (England), Wanyama (Kenya), Dembele (Belguim), Sissoko (France), Eriksen (Denmark) all these players are proven tested international with a price range of £25 million and above apart from Winks.

How many 20 year old players in the world face that level of competition in the midfield. I would suggest None. How many Nigerian international current and past have ever faced that level of competition.

Finally do you know how many loan moves Harry Kane had before he became the deadliest striker in the premiership. Now Real Madrid are looking at him and every top club with big money.

So let's get things in perspective. Onomah is outstanding quality.

do you know that chidi face more competition than onomah...
how about city's midfield.....or have you forgotten the dude is a city player...?
mind you had it been chidi was a British...he would have probably gone beyond the nose of Nigeria...we could have been scrambling for his allegiance same way we doing wit onomah and his gang presently

safarigirl:
Forgiveness attacked Rohr's person by blatantly accusing him of corruption WITHOUT proof.

Why don't you call forgiveness to order first? Respect begets respect, you cannot be disrespectful to one man and expect another to be respectful to you


He questioned Rohr's integrity without trying to look at the list from a logical point of view because logic is something forgiveness would rather discard when his boys are not in the team.


Mickael2, just like Chris advised me when Supernerd had that issue with Piet, talk to your friend first and stop telling us what keeps this thread going, because, in case you have forgotten, it is forgiveness and his spurious, careless words that have caused numerous arguments on this thread.

He is a constant with that, forgiveness needs to be called to order, if his person has to be dragged to ensure he does not get away with dragging the man who has had a stellar record in our National team, by all means, we should drag him.

Between an anonymous internet analyst like Forgiveness and the coach of a top African football team, whose personality should be protected? Or do you think the weight of allegations of corruption is something that should be treated with tender hands?

Forgiveness should tender an unreserved apology to Rohr and drop his idiotic arguments. That is what should happen here

Firstly, corruption as a word is pregnant with meaning. In what context is he using it and in what context have you perceived it.

In my opinion English football is intrinsically corrupt there are things I know to be true. That I can say in this forum anonymously that would see me in court for defamation in England. I would be banned from some football grounds.

Football corruption can be very subtle it's not as pronounced and overt as the corruption obtainable in Nigeria politics.

I did not feel he should register any apology whatsoever. It's a question of opinion and that's what his opinion of which I cannot dispute, he has his view you have yours respect his and he respects yours, matter end.

Exactly! invitation is done based on need.
Some of us talk as if coaches look at the playing history of all the players to make a selection.
I think it's all about what is needed that particular moment. And if the player called doesn't live up to the expectation he won't be recalled.
Which is why I kind of understand Kayode's exclusion.
Kayode will have to keep working hard to earn another call.

Humility017:

moreover iwobi,mikel and etebo can play the AM....role...nacho to an extent..
though I won't play etebo and nacho as AM had it been I was the coach

Oasis007:
This might sound funny but I think VicMo should have been on the List except he didn't want to. He's injured, but being around with the Lads at the Camp; celebrating with the Team for the official completion of the qualifying Matches; having the Opportunity to see the Team Plays against Stars-studded Argentine Team would have been a morale BOOST for him.

In Addition, the Friendly Game is scheduled to take place in Russia - the host Nation. This would have been a great Opportunity for him and the Rest of the Team to acclimatize with the Whether in Russia.

Hazard, while he was still injured, always got a Call up from the National Team Coach. This is simply a mean of encouraging Players that the Coaching Crew care for them.

Nice idea.. But you have forgotten you are in Nigeria before you know anything now... "people" will start shouting corruption . Moreover... Rohr promised active players only will be invited...

If we should go about your submission players like Elderson should also be in squad so as to acclimatize himself to the weather...
Any injured players should be excused...

What can we say about Joel Obi too... He was also injured too but now free from injury....

More will still happen in the team... Just want all the set of players that took part in the qualifiers up their games cos if they don't... They will cry... Player like Dele alampasu is not finding it funny right now...

Thesame with esiti... He will just be wondering what went wrong... Such is life...

And players like Aluko will be thinking they hate me in GWG Jersey...

Rohr need this job more than us... If he failed... He will get his a** kicked out...

My opinion

Joebie:
Sometimes I wonder how many championship players get called up by national team coaches. Your measurement of the quality of the English second tier is subjective. I said it before that I don't think Rohr has a high opinion of the championship. Of course we know very well that Aina was with Chelsea's main team when we started the push for him.

Anyway I could be wrong, but don't forget that most of these lads you are clamoring for need to make a switch first. Not like they can be called up right away. So why the noise?


The question remains are there other Defensive Midfield options out there? Azubuike Okechukwu, the younger Nwakali, and Ramon Azeez comes to mind. Of the these, none are clearly ahead of Chidiebere. It's not about who get's the chance first, it's about who grabs their chance with both hands. Hence, there is no cause for alarm.

the bolded summed it up...moreover I think sir komekn don't really treat the SE with respect .


sometimes I wonder if he can advocate for other national teams like England to call up players from the championship league...

whats the fuss ignoring players plying their trade in the champipnship for players playing in Germany, Norway, Turkey, Spain first division....

Joebie:
Let me put you in Rorh's situation. You have your scouts and you tell them you are looking for more defensive midfield options. You have looked at Agu, Ogu, but you want to see a player that scores crackers. Your scouts go to work, who will they recommend?

My point is you don't know what Rorh is looking for at every particular moment. The building of a team is a gradual process. We should expect maybe more new names in his next invitation, depending on how the team has taken shape and the qualities Rohr wants to add.

Muazam is not an LB. Rohr already has the LB covered with Ebeuhi and Aina available.

When you see a sensible Person, it won't take minutes to identify him or her..... really appreciate your Input bro.

I'm ain't opposing the Invitation of Nwakali, rather objecting against too many inclusion of DMs in the List. If Rohr ain't satisfied with Agu or/and Ogu, he should have replaced him/them with Nwakali.

Nwakali is talented, but we've not seen him play for a longer time. Also hardly anyone is keeping Tabs on his Progress on this Thread except few Clips Tbaba1234 does post here once in a while.

However, if the Scout(s) believes he's ready for the National Call up, and gonna be an Upgrade in the Midfield, then we should wait till he plays before we could judge the Credibility of his Invitation. But Muazam Invitation wouldn't have been a bad Call either coz he's a natural AM with eyes for Goals.

Finally, I'm ain't clamoring for a must Invitation of Muazam, but only saying we need more AMs in the Team too. Iwobi can play AM comfortably same as Mikel, but Etebo ain't creative enough to play in the Hole. I will rather play him as a Box2Box Midfielder, play to his Strength, consider his Pace and Tenacity.

Joebie:
Exactly! invitation is done based on need.
Some of us talk as if coaches look at the playing history of all the players to make a selection.
I think it's all about what is needed that particular moment. And if the player called doesn't live up to the expectation he won't be recalled.
Which is why I kind of understand Kayode's exclusion.
Kayode will have to keep working hard to earn another call.

yeah....moreso i see nwakali call up as an encouragement for hardwork....all this while.
the dude will be greatly encouraged to work harder....even if he does not make the cut to Russia....
will love see one or two new names as time progress ..to get a taste of the SE and serve as inspiration to keep doing their thing...

Oasis007:


When you see a sensible Person, it won't take minutes to identify him or her..... really appreciate your Input bro.

I'm ain't opposing the Invitation of Nwakali, rather objecting against too many inclusion of DMs in the List. If Rohr ain't satisfied with Agu or/and Ogu, he should have replaced him/them with Nwakali.

Nwakali is talented, but we've not seen him play for a longer time. Also hardly anyone is keeping Tabs on his Progress on this Thread except few Clips Tbaba1234 does post here once in a while.

However, if the Scout(s) believes he's ready for the National Call up, and gonna be an Upgrade in the Midfield, then we should wait till he plays. But Muazam Invitation wouldn't have been a call Bad either coz he's a natural AM with eyes for Goals.

Finally, I'm ain't clamoring for a must Invitation of Muazam, but only saying we need more AMs in the Team too. Iwobi can play AM comfortably same as Mikel, but Etebo ain't creative enough to play in the Hole. I will rather play him as a Box2Box Midfielder, play to his Strength, consider his Pace and Tenacity.

I think you're right...no need for ogu and Agu invitation in situation of this kind.
your comments reminds me...of Nigeria vs Iran match in the last world cup...
where keshi played 3 DMs in that match...there was no creativeness...it took the introduction of osaze to bring life to the game.....

I think alhassan will likely make the world cup....list being that he is a gifted AM....and i don't think rohr is sold on iwobi playing the AM role yet....

I think definetely should chidi impress one of agu and ogu will be dropped in subsequent call ups.....

Joebie:
Let me put you in Rorh's situation. You have your scouts and you tell them you are looking for more defensive midfield options. You have looked at Agu, Ogu, but you want to see a player that scores crackers. Your scouts go to work, who will they recommend?

My point is you don't know what Rorh is looking for at every particular moment. The building of a team is a gradual process. We should expect maybe more new names in his next invitation, depending on how the team has taken shape and the qualities Rohr wants to add.

Muazam is not an LB. Rohr already has the LB covered with Ebeuhi and Aina available.

I appreciate and respect your insight as one with depth. I think you are being diplomatic.

The player is in a team that is third from bottom and his league is in the real backwaters of European football and rated near number 30 overall. That is simply abysmal.

You know football. Scoring in the EPL, Championship, LaLiga, Bundesliga, etc and scoring in the Norwegian league are a thousand miles apart. That's the reality.

You know why the EPL, is so competitive is the speed at which you are closed down. So scoring is not easy the same goes for the Bundesliga, La Liga, Seria A, etc.

Yesterday evening, I was with a Nigerian U20 player who has played a couple of games for an EPL first team. He is left footed fast and I am not talking about Seyi Ojo. I have said he is not ready, with this kind of selection I don't know what to say to him.

with most national teams you know what the established criteria is for selection and you work towards those standards. In this case we are left bewildered.

Dude I know hundred of scouts and a least 10 heads of recruitment in English premiership and Championship clubs they would all find this bewildering. There response to me well you know you Nigerians and how you operate.

komekn:


I appreciate and respect your insight as one with depth. I think you are being diplomatic.

The player is in a team that is third from bottom and his league is in the real backwaters of European football and rated near number 30 overall. That is simply abysmal.

You know football. Scoring in the EPL, Championship, LaLiga, Bundesliga, etc and scoring in the Norwegian league are a thousand miles apart. That's the reality.

You know why the EPL, is so competitive is the speed at which you are closed down. So scoring is not easy the same goes for the Bundesliga, La Liga, Seria A, etc.

Yesterday evening, I was with a Nigerian U20 player who has played a couple of games for an EPL first team. He is left footed fast and I am not talking about Seyi Ojo. I have said he is not ready, with this kind of selection I don't know what to say to him.

with most national teams you know what the established criteria is for selection and you work towards those standards. In this case we are left bewildered.

Dude I know hundred of scouts and a least 10 heads of recruitment in English premiership and Championship clubs they would all find this bewildering. There response to me well you know you Nigerians and how you operate.

please who is this player?
is he interested in playing for the super eagles and not someone puting Nigeria as a second option while eyeing a 3 Lions call up...

Thanks for the compliment.

I want to think that the selection process even among those in the SE fold is ongoing.

And you are right we have just Mikel and Iwobi as players who can play as AM. Rohr likes Etebo a lot. I remember when he just resumed as coach he singled out Etebo then for his exploits in the olympics opener. Etebo would have earned an immediate call up but for injury. So my friend, you don't know what Rohr has been seeing of Etebo in camp. Let's assume that with these two matches, players will be tried in other positions. I think Rohr is yet to make a final decision on some of the players in the team. And that is not to say they cannot fight their way back in the team if they get dropped.

Let's take these games one at a time. We also have an AFCON qualifier in March, and more friendlies coing. We will judge these players one game at a time.

With Nwakali around, it shows that the battle in the DM position is heating up.

Oasis007:


When you see a sensible Person, it won't take minutes to identify him or her..... really appreciate your Input bro.

I'm ain't opposing the Invitation of Nwakali, rather objecting against too many inclusion of DMs in the List. If Rohr ain't satisfied with Agu or/and Ogu, he should have replaced him/them with Nwakali.

Nwakali is talented, but we've not seen him play for a longer time. Also hardly anyone is keeping Tabs on his Progress on this Thread except few Clips Tbaba1234 does post here once in a while.

However, if the Scout(s) believes he's ready for the National Call up, and gonna be an Upgrade in the Midfield, then we should wait till he plays before we could judge the Credibility of his Invitation. But Muazam Invitation wouldn't have been a bad Call either coz he's a natural AM with eyes for Goals.

Finally, I'm ain't clamoring for a must Invitation of Muazam, but only saying we need more AMs in the Team too. Iwobi can play AM comfortably same as Mikel, but Etebo ain't creative enough to play in the Hole. I will rather play him as a Box2Box Midfielder, play to his Strength, consider his Pace and Tenacity.

Humility017:

I think you're right...no need for ogu and Agu invitation in situation of this kind.
your comments reminds me...of Nigeria vs Iran match in the last world cup...
where keshi played 3 DMs in that match...there was no creativeness...it took the introduction of osaze to bring life to the game.....

I think alhassan will likely make the world cup....list being that he is a gifted AM....and i don't think rohr is sold on iwobi playing the AM role yet....

I think definetely should chidi impress one of agu and ogu will be dropped in subsequent call ups.....

That's the Essence of Argument.... learning from others Inputs instead of jumping on any Moniker with a contrary View simply to get few Likes.

I really appreciate your Maturity on this Thread, also glad you understand my Stance on the list.

Joebie:
Sometimes I wonder how many championship players get called up by national team coaches. Your measurement of the quality of the English second tier is subjective. I said it before that I don't think Rohr has a high opinion of the championship. Of course we know very well that Aina was with Chelsea's main team when we started the push for him.

Anyway I could be wrong, but don't forget that most of these lads you are clamoring for need to make a switch first. Not like they can be called up right away. So why the noise?

The question remains are there other Defensive Midfield options out there? Azubuike Okechukwu, the younger Nwakali, and Ramon Azeez comes to mind. Of the these, none are clearly ahead of Chidiebere. It's not about who get's the chance first, it's about who grabs their chance with both hands. Hence, there is no cause for alarm.

Do you mean Chidiebere Nwakali who failed in LA liga 2 is ahead of Ramon Azeez?