Joebie:
He's got his chance earlier by virtue of Super Eagles team B (CHAN), and he impressed.

Then he should have been included in the List, coz he's also playing Week in Week out for his Club as a AM despite that he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Yes I think you are right although TM listed him as a CF. We actually played a 4-2-3-1 not 4-4-2 diamond.

However, we've made the same points as regards Etebo and Iheanacho. In fact KC can play in both wings, and Etebo as SS and CF, to a "lesser competency" .

Icon4s:


Iwobi played AM against Senegal.

We are not lacking in that department as apart from Mikel and Iwobi, Etebo and Iheanacho can play that position although to a lesser competency level than Mikel and Iwobi.

We can't just get everything our way. For me the list is 90% good, and that's excellent.
I think we all individually need to give it a score. It will be unrealistic to expect 100%.

Oasis007:


Then he should have been included in the List, coz he's also playing Week in Week out for his Club as a AM despite that he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Icon4s:


Iwobi played AM against Senegal.

We are not lacking in that department as apart from Mikel and Iwobi, Etebo and Iheanacho can play that position although to a lesser competency level than Mikel and Iwobi.

Boss..... you've already said it that everyone on the Thread is 100% Sentiment, coz your Submission is sentimental to be candid.

You claimed we ain't lacking in the Department, named few Players that could play the Position with lesser competency, thus how you concluded that we ain't lacking in the Department is baffling!

When was the last Time Iheanacho played as an AM, Etebo?!, even Mikel?! at Club Level though. Talent-wise we trust they can do it, but on professional level not competently except maybe Mikel.

Whereas Muazam plied his Trade in the Position while in Nigeria and continuing from where he stopped with Austrian Wien.

Humility017:

yeah...chidi failed in la liga 2 but Ramon azeez failed @ the world cup....

mind you we are now preparing for the world cup and as such we don't want another failure in that context....
reason why we go for chidi who has never failed at the world cup.....

or do you want me remind you of the Iran match...?

Did Victor Moses failed at the world cup?

Chidiebere Nwakali was a failure at Spain and he doesn't deserve to warm the bench of the national team?

Now, you had better start reminding me?

Joebie:
We can't just get everything our way. For me the list is 90% good, and that's excellent.
I think we all individually need to give it a score. It will be unrealistic to expect 100%.

Well I wasn't surprised with your Responses cos you've been rated as an unbiased Member of the Thread.

I'm satisfied with the List by 90% too, coz I really wanna see Nwakali play. Onazi is declining and he needs a serious Competition to buckle up.

I hope the Inclusion of Nwakali would be a real Thread to his Spot in the Starting XI, hence making him to up his Game.

forgiveness:



Did Victor Moses failed at the world cup?

Chidiebere Nwakali was a failure at Spain and he doesn't deserve to warm the bench of the national team?

Now, you had better start reminding me?

when did playing in Spain second tier league becomes a criteria for sizing players abilities and calls up?

Oasis007:


Boss..... you've already said it that everyone on the Thread is 100% Sentiment, coz your Submission is sentimental to be candid.

You claimed we ain't lacking in the Department, named few Players that could play the Position with lesser competency, thus how you concluded that we ain't lacking in the Department is baffling!

When was the last Time Iheanacho played as an AM, Etebo?!, even Mikel?! at Club Level though. Talent-wise we trust they can do it, but on professional level not competently except maybe Mikel.

Whereas Muazam plied his Trade in the Position while in Nigeria and continuing from where he stopped with Austrian Wien.

Muazam?

You cannot put him on the same level as Etebo and Iheanacho in that position Naaa.

When it comes to the national team a lot of things come to play. Eg Mikel did not need to be an AM in his club to be our first choice AM.

Humility017:

when did playing in Spain second tier league becomes a criteria for sizing players abilities and calls up?

Answer questions first before asking another

Icon4s:


Muazam?

You cannot put him on the same level as Etebo and Iheanacho in that position Naaa.

When it comes to the national team a lot of things come to play. Eg Mikel did not need to be an AM in his club to be our first choice AM.

Why not Boss?! Has he been tested there?.....Yes (though for the B-Team). Did he impress....... YES!

Has Iheanacho been tested as a 10 for the Senior National Team?!..... NO. Can he play it?!...... Yes. Competently and satisfactory?!...... can't say.

I think I've trashed Etebo case with Sir Joebie. He's best played as B2B a Midfielder or a Wing-Forward as evident in the Olympic.

Sir there is corruption EVERYWHERE. Let's stay with this topic. Before you criticize, analyze logically.
My question for you. Who would you have rather invited for the DM department? Be realistic. Stop talking about players that CANNOT play for us at least within the next month.
If you can come up with better alternatives considering this circumstance then we can start to talk about how discouraging the system is for those who may be considering a switch.

komekn:


I see it as a disencouragement to players who are striving for excellence and the recognition of true exceptional talent devoid of sentiments and or favouritism.

The enthronement of mediocrity over exceptional quality.

Very dissapointing but not suprising this sort of unjustifiable approach is mirrored in so many areas of our national approaches in appointment and selection.

OMANBALA1:


I didn't do any name calling. Did I ? All I said is that he is mentally sick because he doesn't reason like a proper mind. Does he ? Look, I am not your average Nigerian who are mostly spineless and can't speak up when they see anomaly.

When I said that if I have my way people like that nigga won't be alive I AM NOT KIDDING!

Nigeria is so ffucked up is because of tribal sentiments right from independence. We can't elect a credible candidate because shallow mindsets. Everybody need to join hands together and beat him down.

Well, when I saw this I wanted to address it sharply but I felt I should read through the comments down to the last before this and I saw that no one directly addressed this smouldering piece filled with violence. So I will take it upon myself to do so because I enjoy this thread so much. It's like a house. It should be kept clean and safe.

First, safarigirl take note that when forgiveness made damning accusations against Rohr, several monikers including me called him out on it. He was not spared. This too will not be spared.
Now @all, I trust you guys read this blood curdling, murderous and toxic words from omanbala1. This is totally unacceptable and must be strongly condemned particularly more so that you were called to order by junnyjake and tglobal when you called forgiveness mentally sick and still you went ahead to pour such hateful, vicious words on him. If he's tribalistic, then you are also one whose heart is filled with hate and bitterness. Infact as per the bolded you are a potential murderer. We should not condone such attacks against anyone.

Apart from Rohr whom forgiveness unjustifiably attacked, he's been carrying on his wailings on the absence of Kayode with the air of one who has lost something precious(at least that's how he sees the situation) he's not insulted anybody here. Allow him his views. Outlandish, far-fetched, unreasonable - but there are his views. Counter them, even ridicule them but let's respect each other, respect the man.

And NO, I will not join hands to further your totalitarian call that we join hands with you to beat him down because there's room in my world, indeed in this world for men like him. Even God/nature cherishes variety and I don't want to live in that dumb world where everyone is a Yes man. The man below looks like forgiveness. I respect such men

Oasis007:


Why not Boss?! Has he been tested there?.....Yes (though for the B-Team). Did he impress....... YES!

Has Iheanacho been tested as a 10 for the Senior National Team?!..... NO. Can he play it?!...... Yes. Competently and satisfactory?!...... can't say.

I think I've trashed Etebo case with Sir Joebie. He's best played as B2B a Midfielder or a Wing-Forward as evident in the Olympic.

if you alreadh have a player that can play it competently and satisfactorily, will you not be okay if his replacement can do it decently?

We are talking about utility players that can be shifted anywhere and you are talking of one way players. Do you think we will always have the option of playing like for like subs?

What if Mikel gets a red when we have a game and you have Etebo on the wings on field, we are one man down and the coach wants to reinforce with a defender without touching the MF, will Etebo not be drafted there?

Etebo is even a bench warmer because in such a scenario, the player who would be on field to replace Mikel will most likely be Iwobi.

If Mikel is first choice AM and Iwobi is technically second choice, what do we need Muazzam for? And is Muazzam the best we can get if so?

Mujtahida:

Well, when I saw this I wanted to address it sharply but I felt I should read through the comments down to the last before this and no one directly addressed smouldering piece filled with violence. I will take it upon myself to do so because I enjoy this thread so much. It's like a house. It should be kept clean.

First, safarigirl take note that when forgiveness made damning accusations against Rohr several monikers including me called him out on it. He was not spared. This too will not be spared.
Now @all, I trust you guys read this blood curdling, murderous and toxic words from omanbala1. This is totally unacceptable and must be strongly condemned particularly more so that you were called to order by junnyjake and tglobal when you called him mentally sick and still you went ahead to pour such hateful, vicious words on him. If he's tribalistic, then you are also one whose heart is filled with hate and bitterness. We should not condone it against anyone.

Apart from Rohr whom forgiveness unjustifiably attacked, he's been carrying on his wailings on the absence of Kayode with the air of one who has lost something precious(at least that's how he sees the situation) he's not insulted anybody here. Allow him his views. Outlandish, far-fetched, unreasonable - but there are his views. Counter them, even ridicule them but let's respect each other.
And no I will not join hands to further your totalitarian call that we join hands with you to beat him down because there's room in my world, indeed in this world for men like him. Even God/nature cherishes variety and I don't want to live in that dumb world where everyone is a Yes man. The man below looks like forgiveness. I respect such men.

I did not see that post, so, thanks for addressing it

I also hope you reported the post, it is not enough to correct him, he should duly be punished

seconded

Mujtahida:

Well, when I saw this I wanted to address it sharply but I felt I should read through the comments down to the last before this and no one directly addressed smouldering piece filled with violence. I will take it upon myself to do so because I enjoy this thread so much. It's like a house. It should be kept clean.

First, safarigirl take note that when forgiveness made damning accusations against Rohr several monikers including me called him out on it. He was not spared. This too will not be spared.
Now @all, I trust you guys read this blood curdling, murderous and toxic words from omanbala1. This is totally unacceptable and must be strongly condemned particularly more so that you were called to order by junnyjake and tglobal when you called him mentally sick and still you went ahead to pour such hateful, vicious words on him. If he's tribalistic, then you are also one whose heart is filled with hate and bitterness. We should not condone it against anyone.

Apart from Rohr whom forgiveness unjustifiably attacked, he's been carrying on his wailings on the absence of Kayode with the air of one who has lost something precious(at least that's how he sees the situation) he's not insulted anybody here. Allow him his views. Outlandish, far-fetched, unreasonable - but there are his views. Counter them, even ridicule them but let's respect each other.
And no I will not join hands to further your totalitarian call that we join hands with you to beat him down because there's room in my world, indeed in this world for men like him. Even God/nature cherishes variety and I don't want to live in that dumb world where everyone is a Yes man. The man below looks like forgiveness. I respect such men.

madam leave that report thing jor.. He thinks Rohr is bribed.. but hey the voice of the majority will overshadow his anyway.. that accusation will die naturally.

safarigirl:
I did not see that post, so, thanks for addressing it

I also hope you reported the post, it is not enough to correct him, he should duly be punished

safarigirl:
I did not see that post, so, thanks for addressing it

I also hope you reported the post, it is not enough to correct him, he should duly be punished

I have never reported anybody. He is a reasonable person. Just this time he went totally off.

Joebie:
madam leave that report thing jor.. He thinks Rohr is bribed.. but hey the voice of the majority will overshadow his anyway.. that accusation will die naturally.

No, she's not referring to forgiveness but the moniker I quoted above.

Joebie:
madam leave that report thing jor.. He thinks Rohr is bribed.. but hey the voice of the majority will overshadow his anyway.. that accusation will die naturally.

i was referring to Omanbala

safarigirl:
if you alreadh have a player that can play it competently and satisfactorily, will you not be okay if his replacement can do it decently?

We are talking about utility players that can be shifted anywhere and you are talking of one way players. Do you think we will always have the option of playing like for like subs?

What if Mikel gets a red when we have a game and you have Etebo on the wings on field, we are one man down and the coach wants to reinforce with a defender without touching the MF, will Etebo not be drafted there?

Etebo is even a bench warmer because in such a scenario, the player who would be on field to replace Mikel will most likely be Iwobi.

If Mikel is first choice AM and Iwobi is technically second choice, what do we need Muazzam for? And is Muazzam the best we can get if so?

Aunty.... thanks for your Input. But if you get my Point clearly I'm ain't saying either of the mentioned Players should be replaced with Muazam, rather asking for a natural AM also to be in the Team.

Mikel is a utility Player, same as Iwobi as you stated in your Analogue. But did you consider if no Player is red-carded and the Coach needs a real creative Midfielder to replace or complement either Mikel or Iwobi on the Pitch?!

More so, Iwobi flourishes when he plays on the Wing than in the Hole. He can comfortably switch to either Wing and still maintain his Rhythm. I also believe he can flourish playing 10 too, but as for Etebo, we are only assuming coz he's not listed as an AM in his Profile on many credible Sites.

Oasis007:




Aunty.... thanks for your Input. But if you get my Point clearly I'm ain't saying either of the mentioned Players should be replaced with Muazam, rather asking for a natural AM also to be in the Team.

Mikel is a utility Player, same as Iwobi as you stated in your Analogue. But did you consider if no Player is red-carded and the Coach needs a real creative Midfielder to replace or complement either Mikel or Iwobi on the Pitch?!

More so, Iwobi flourishes when he plays on the Wing than in the Hole. He can comfortably switch to either Wing and still maintain his Rhythm. I also believe he can flourish playing 10 too, but as for Etebo, we are only assuming coz he's not listed as an AM in his Profile on many credible Sites.

your opinion of Iwobi's abilities is highly subjective.

He is not as effective on the wings...and forget natural player, that is just a term that implies lack of versatility. Do you think Muazzam would play AM better than Mikel or Iwobi?

Mujtahida:

I have never reported anybody. He is a reasonable person. Just this time he went totally off.

I've reported him

oh yes.. sorry bout that

safarigirl:
i was referring to Omanbala

safarigirl:
your opinion of Iwobi's abilities is highly subjective.

He is not as effective on the wings...and forget natural player, that is just a term that implies lack of versatility. Do you think Muazzam would play AM better than Mikel or Iwobi?

I think he plays on the Wing at Arsenal or mostly as a RMF or LMF ma. Can Muazam play AM better than Iwobi or Mikel?!...... NO. Does he deserve a Look in?!...... YES. Must he be invited based on my view of him?!.....NO.

I'm ain't Part of the Coaching Crew, nor a Member of NFF Technical Board. We can only share our Views here with the Hope that a NFF Member could accidentally see it.

For more Details on where he plays or can play, check the Link below;

http://www.transfermarkt.com/alex-iwobi/profil/spieler/242631

Joebie:
We can't just get everything our way. For me the list is 90% good, and that's excellent.
I think we all individually need to give it a score. It will be unrealistic to expect 100%.

Not just 90% but 95% sef. Apart from Musa and the Nwakali, the list is OK.

Oasis007:




I think he plays on the Wing at Arsenal or mostly as a RMF or LMF ma. Can Muazam play AM better than Iwobi or Mikel?!...... NO. Does he deserve a Look in?!...... YES. Must he be invited based on my view of him?!.....NO.

I'm ain't Part of the Coaching Crew, nor a Member of NFF Technical Board. We can only share our Views here with the Hope that a NFF Member could accidentally see it.

For more Details on where he plays or can play, check the Link below;

http://www.transfermarkt.com/alex-iwobi/profil/spieler/242631

Did he not have a look-in already? Or are you not aware that he has been invited to camp before? Which other look-in again are you talking about?

Besides, if he cannot offer more than we already have, there is no point in a look-in to begin with

Oasis007:


Why not Boss?! Has he been tested there?.....Yes (though for the B-Team). Did he impress....... YES!

Has Iheanacho been tested as a 10 for the Senior National Team?!..... NO. Can he play it?!...... Yes. Competently and satisfactory?!...... can't say.

I think I've trashed Etebo case with Sir Joebie. He's best played as B2B a Midfielder or a Wing-Forward as evident in the Olympic.

We have 2 great AMs in Mikel and Iwobi. Etebo and Iheanacho are alternates who can play the AM role in addition to their primary roles.

Muazam is not up against Iheanacho and Etebo mind you. He is against Mikel and Maybe Iwobi. What can Muazam offer that would be better than what Iwobi and Mikel can offer?

If Mikel for any reason cannot make the trip then watch Rohr invite Muazam.

Mujtahida:

Not just 90% but 95% sef. Apart from Musa and the Nwakali, the list is OK.

nwakali is a quality player. All he needs is confidence. This is his time to prove his quality. Other players being mentioned have been given their time, some took it and some didn't take. Do you know that nwakali is his club's key man

Mujtahida:

Not just 90% but 95% sef. Apart from Musa and the Nwakali, the list is OK.

nwakali is a quality player. All he needs is confidence. This is his time to prove his quality. Other players being mentioned have been given their time, some took it and some didn't take. Do you know that nwakali is his club's key man?

OMANBALA1:


I didn't do any name calling. Did I ? All I said is that he is mentally sick because he doesn't reason like a proper mind. Does he ? Look, I am not your average Nigerian who are mostly spineless and can't speak up when they see anomaly.

When I said that if I have my way people like that nigga won't be alive I AM NOT KIDDING!

Nigeria is so ffucked up is because of tribal sentiments right from independence. We can't elect a credible candidate because shallow mindsets. Everybody need to join hands together and beat him down.

Please if it's a joke,stop it!I beg.

safarigirl:
if you alreadh have a player that can play it competently and satisfactorily, will you not be okay if his replacement can do it decently?

We are talking about utility players that can be shifted anywhere and you are talking of one way players. Do you think we will always have the option of playing like for like subs?

What if Mikel gets a red when we have a game and you have Etebo on the wings on field, we are one man down and the coach wants to reinforce with a defender without touching the MF, will Etebo not be drafted there?

Etebo is even a bench warmer because in such a scenario, the player who would be on field to replace Mikel will most likely be Iwobi.

If Mikel is first choice AM and Iwobi is technically second choice, what do we need Muazzam for? And is Muazzam the best we can get if so?

Please go to be biggest hotel in Abuja and take lunch on me.

You just smashed it.

Oasis007:


We've eventually come to the same Conclusion Bro. I said it earlier he's gonna definitely be a Hit as a B2B Midfielder because of his Strength, Pace and Tenacity.

Also I claimed he's best played as a Wing-Forward cos he excelled well playing the Position at Rio Olympic. Thus it's apparent Etebo can't be classed as a AM which limit the Numbers of AMs on the List to two - Mikel and Iwobi respectively.

Hope you get the Reason I asked for the Inclusion of Muazam on the List bro?!

I completely agree with you. If Rohr indeed invited Chidiebere Nwakali for his versatility, why can't he do that with an attacking player? Remember Idowu is also on the standby list, so that means at the moment we have Echiejile, Idowu, Aina and probably Ebuehi who can play as LB. We already have Agu, Ogu, Ndidi, Onazi, Etebo, Mikel and even Shehu and Agbo who can fill in as DM, why can't we find someone who is versatile enough to replace Mikel as AM and play on the wings?? Why hasn't he tried out someone like Aluko who can play on the wings and as a 10?? If we only rely on Iwobi as Mikel's replacement, we lose the creativity needed out wide especially if we're going to stick to this Ndidi - Onazi axis which will always require Mikel to drop back to dictate play.