Joebie:
I've already my point, there is no logic in this kind of comparison.

Why did you bring up the illogical comparison in the first place?

Una c una sef....unofficial scout of our National team

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Una Don dey argue with emotions, throwing personal jibes at each oda


Don't let us over flog dis chidi,issue,if u knw u re not pleased with it.once dey resume camp in Morocco, take two official escort to d camp and throw chidi nwakali out of d camp ,

But on a lighter note,we don't need to threaten/attack each odas personality over trivial issues.it makes no sense

@ the bolded.. I like that

safarigirl:
your opinion of Iwobi's abilities is highly subjective.

He is not as effective on the wings...and forget natural player, that is just a term that implies lack of versatility. Do you think Muazzam would play AM better than Mikel or Iwobi?

safarigirl:
if you alreadh have a player that can play it competently and satisfactorily, will you not be okay if his replacement can do it decently?

We are talking about utility players that can be shifted anywhere and you are talking of one way players. Do you think we will always have the option of playing like for like subs?

What if Mikel gets a red when we have a game and you have Etebo on the wings on field, we are one man down and the coach wants to reinforce with a defender without touching the MF, will Etebo not be drafted there?

Etebo is even a bench warmer because in such a scenario, the player who would be on field to replace Mikel will most likely be Iwobi.

If Mikel is first choice AM and Iwobi is technically second choice, what do we need Muazzam for? And is Muazzam the best we can get if so?

You don dey become coach ooo under the tutelage of baba Icon4s. Nice analysis.
I think we are gunning for a team that plays total football where every player can play multiple roles. See this: Balogun can play both CB or RB, Aina, Ebuehi both LB or RB. Shehu both RB or DM, Iwobi can play RWF, LWF or AM, Mikel can play AM, DM or even CB(he plays that for Tiajin Teda) The two Moses, Musa and Onyekuru can play both RWF or LWF.

OMANBALA1:


I didn't do any name calling. Did I ? All I said is that he is mentally sick because he doesn't reason like a proper mind. Does he ? Look, I am not your average Nigerian who are mostly spineless and can't speak up when they see anomaly.

When I said that if I have my way people like that nigga won't be alive I AM NOT KIDDING!

Nigeria is so ffucked up is because of tribal sentiments right from independence. We can't elect a credible candidate because shallow mindsets. Everybody need to join hands together and beat him down.

Don't you think this is too harsh?

This is not acceptable by any standards.

Y do people take things here too personal?

zuchyblink:
nwakali is a quality player. All he needs is confidence. This is his time to prove his quality. Other players being mentioned have been given their time, some took it and some didn't take. Do you know that nwakali is his club's key man?

Well, I mentioned him and Musa to highlight the two persons those who question the list will pin their objections on. Personally I've not seen him play and I've not followed his development. Your word is all I have for it. I take it and await the performance of the player.

Mujtahida:

You don dey become coach ooo under the tutelage of baba Icon4s. Nice analysis.
I think we are gunning for a team that plays total football where every player can play multiple roles. See this: Balogun can play both CB or RB, Aina, Ebuehi both LB or RB. Shehu both RB or DM, Iwobi can play RWF, LWF or AM, Mikel can play AM, DM or even CB(he plays that for Tiajin Teda) The two Moses, Musa and Onyekuru can play both RWF or LWF.

Asin safarigirl really impressed me with that analysis.

The way she is going, she may join the falcons coaching crew one day. I tell you.

what was the illogical comparison I brought up?

You are comparing Nwakali of 3 seasons ago, to Azeez of now.

That's what I mean by illogical comparison.

if you want to compare, compare Lugo Azeez to Sogndal Nwakali. That's logical.

You expect Rohr to look at the entire playing history of players, and make a comparison. That's what we do as fans.
As a coach, I think he looks at the recommendations based on the qualities he is looking for, then decides if the recommendation is good or not.
Different perspectives.

forgiveness:


Why did you bring up the illogical comparison in the first place?

Oasis007:


Sir Tbaba1234, I have deep respect for you on this Thread, same goes to few Monikers as well but you ain't being objective on this Nwakali Issue.

Do we need to bombard the Team with too many DMs.... Ogu, Agu, Onazi, Ndidi, Mikel etc?! Muazam should have made the Team instead of Nwakali cos he's a regular Starter for his Club, remember he's signed directly from the Nigeria League.

Mickael2 has made a valid Point that justifies his Inclusion in the Team - that he's a versatile Player that can also play as a LB comfortably and I think we should take it like that, since Echiejile was left out due to Injury.

I am not sure of the readiness of Nwakali or the coaches intentions with him.

Ebuehi, brian idowu and Aina play LB comfortably. So i do not think that is the intention with Nwakali.

Mikel is not a DM for Nigeria. Agu has been heavily criticised. Ogu, we have not seen much of.. so we really have only Onazi and Ndidi, that are tried and trusted. The coach needs at least two other trusted CM/DM.

Nwakali is a utility player like Shehu so he might help plug holes.

The coach has called him, let us see what he offers.

Icon4s:


Asin safarigirl really impressed me with that analysis.

The way she is going, she may join the falcons coaching crew one day. I tell you.

Not a bad idea

safarigirl:
Did he not have a look-in already? Or are you not aware that he has been invited to camp before? Which other look-in again are you talking about?

Besides, if he cannot offer more than we already have, there is no point in a look-in to begin with

Alright Ma'am.

Icon4s:


Don't you think this is too harsh?

This is not acceptable by any standards.

Y do people take things here too personal?

To say that was harsh is even an understatement. That was murder in the making I read it and I was livid with anger. I couldn't even read through other juicy comments as I was scanning to see if anyone addressed it but no one did. The comment is shocking and is a new negative low. Ever since I began reading you guys here last year no one has uttered such words.

Icon4s:


We have 2 great AMs in Mikel and Iwobi. Etebo and Iheanacho are alternates who can play the AM role in addition to their primary roles.

Muazam is not up against Iheanacho and Etebo mind you. He is against Mikel and Maybe Iwobi. What can Muazam offer that would be better than what Iwobi and Mikel can offer?

If Mikel for any reason cannot make the trip then watch Rohr invite Muazam.

I agree he's not better than Mikel and Iwobi as an AM, also kinda appreciated you ain't seeing Etebo and Iheanacho as his Competitions coz they ain't playing the same Position.

Hence, no need dragging the Issue further Boss, let's hope the Invitees justify their Call ups.

Oasis007:


I agree he's not better than Mikel and Iwobi as an AM, also kinda appreciated you ain't seeing Etebo and Iheanacho as his Competitions coz they ain't playing the same Position.

Hence, no need dragging the Issue further Boss, let's hope the Invitees justify their Call ups.

God bless you.

Case closed.

Icon4s:


Please go to be biggest hotel in Abuja and take lunch on me.

You just smashed it.

...I don open teeth tire.

Thanks sir

2013 under 17 is on track to being one of the most successful.

Akpeyi is a puzzle. He looks calm when he keeps in the south African league but looks a nervous wreck when keeping for Nigeria.

Mickael2:



the things that keep this thread going include, among others, respect and tolerance. You literally just attacked the person himself instead of countering his points, that is totally uncalled for and should not be promoted

Well that seems to be the order of the day lately

tbaba1234:


I am not sure of the readiness of Nwakali or the coaches intentions with him.

Ebuehi, brian idowu and Aina play LB comfortably. So i do not think that is the intention with Nwakali.

Mikel is not a DM for Nigeria. Agu has been heavily criticised. Ogu, we have not seen much of.. so we really have only Onazi and Ndidi, that are tried and trusted. The coach needs at least two other trusted CM/DM.

Nwakali is a utility player like Shehu so he might help plug holes.

The coach has called him, let us see what he offers.

Ogu featured a lot under Keshi.

One of such games was the Nelson Mandela challenge. The one we one 2-0.

He had a pretty descent game.

tbaba1234:
2013 under 17 is on track to being one of the most successful.

Most successful as how?

How many of them have really broken into the team 2 years after their U20 outings? Just Iheanacho and Ndidi(who did not even feature at the CAFU17 and U17 WC). They are still mostly invitees and being used as training materials. At this stage of their careers the 1993 boys were already bossing things in the Super Eagles.

I hope you also know that Kenneth Omeruo, Ogenyi Onazi, Olanrewaju Kayode, and Ramon Azeez were part of the 2009 Class of Eaglets. Stanley Okoro another member of that team has also played for the Super Eagles. Abdul Forgiveness Ajagun is another.

Mujtahida:

Not just 90% but 95% sef. Apart from Musa and the Nwakali, the list is OK.

It seems you are not comfortable with Nwakili invitation,I understand your position on his invitation.

I want you to know something about players invitations to Nigeria national team,i believe Icon4s, enomakos,goldfish80 w understand it better.

A lot of things comes in and we behind the scene w never understand than to keep on wondering on what criteria

My man did you know some invitations are not based on merits,these invitations normally come from agents who want to see their players in the national team to boost their market,some invitations come from NFF telling coach look you just have to invite this player,serious pressure, telling the coach the federal characters is their reason.

Did u know most of these foreign coaches have agents that brokered the deal for them to be appointed and these agents have players they are managing,it is a must for such coach to accept his agent players but there are unwritten rules if he make it in the camp fine, did you see Aaron Samuel getting invitation again coz he didn't meet up.

The home bred national team coaches w make recommendations of their choice players either good or bad,the foreign coach w accept coz he is new in the system.

I remember when my university coach was appointed as super eagles assistant and they requested for his inputs on players invitation,he made sure 5 of the university players got called up letter though they are playing in the local league, out of these five, two made it and one later established himself in the eagles to the extent of playing in EPL.

Remember after South Africa match that we lost two goals to nil,there are allegations that some players are getting invitation through agents which Rohr denied, this led to technical committee to mandate that they must see the list first before Rohr made it public.

On Nwakili i can tell anybody that he can get the invitation in many ways,one through agent,it's simple coach I have player who can do it better than Agu or Ogu,OK let me see him,his invitation can come through NFF technical committee and also through Rohr scouts, nobody can say but to base his invitation on merits is dicey.

I just see Nwakili in the mould of Shehu and Ekong, if you check these two players properly, national team shape up their careers coz on club level they don't deserve to be in the team but they are able to prove themselves and they are part of the team XI.

Let see what Nwakili has to offer before we judge him coz personally am not yet convince that he merits the invitation but such player always seize the opportunity and established himself to prove doubting minds wrong.

Kog45:
It seems you are not comfortable with Nwakili invitation,I understand your position on his invitation.

I want you to know something about players invitations to Nigeria national team,i believe Icon4s, enomakos,goldfish80 w understand it better.

A lot of things comes in and we behind the scene w never understand than to keep on wondering on what criteria

My man did you know some invitations are not based on merits,these invitations normally come from agents who want to see their players in the national team to boost their market,some invitations come from NFF telling coach look you just have to invite this player,serious pressure, telling the coach the federal characters is their reason.

Did u know most of these foreign coaches have agents that brokered the deal for them to be appointed and these agents have players they are managing,it is a must for such coach to accept his agent players but there are unwritten rules if he make it in the camp fine, did you see Aaron Samuel getting invitation again coz he didn't meet up.

The home bred national team coaches w make recommendations of their choice players either good or bad,the foreign coach w accept coz he is new in the system.

I remember when my university coach was appointed as super eagles assistant and they requested for his inputs on players invitation,he made sure 5 of the university players got called up letter though they are playing in the local league, out of these five, two made it and one later established himself in the eagles to the extent of playing in EPL.

Remember after South Africa match that we lost two goals to nil,there are allegations that some players are getting invitation through agents which Rohr denied, this led to technical committee to mandate that they must see the list first before Rohr made it public.

On Nwakili i can tell anybody that he can get the invitation in many ways,one through agent,it's simple coach I have player who can do it better than Agu or Ogu,OK let me see him,his invitation can come through NFF technical committee and also through Rohr scouts, nobody can say but to based his invitation on merits is dicey.

I just see Nwakili in the mould of Shehu and Ekong, if you check these two players properly, national team shape up their careers coz on club level they don't deserve to be in the team but they are able to prove themselves and they are part of the team XI.

Let see what Nwakili has to offer before we judge him coz personally am not yet convince that he merits the invitation but such player always seize the opportunity and established himself to prove doubting minds wrong.

You understand a lot bro.

CHIDIEBERE NWAKALI CAN ONLY PLAY DMF, CMF AND LM. HE NEVER PLAYED AS A LB.

People should not come here and tell us about versatility. No call dog a monkey to deceive the mumus.

If Rohr is truely looking for a DMF, we have many of dem doing well in a better league than in one obscure league in Norway.


No 1. Ryan Sanusi is playing in the EREDIVISIE for Sparta R. He is a free scoring DMF and he can play in 5 other roles( AM, CM, LW, LM & RW)


No 2. Brian Idowu is currently playing in the Russian league. He is also a better option than Chidiebere Nwakali because he is more versatile and plays in a better league than him. He Is double times versatile than Chidiebere Nwakali. He has played regularly as a DMF, RB, LB, CB, LM & LM. Why was he placed on standby while a player from obscure league just surface on the list from no where?

No 3. Raheem Lawal doesn't need any formal introduction. He has played and still playing as an DMF, AM & CM but the corrupt and selective system will never allow merit to reign in this country.He ones played as a RW too.


No 4. Hope Akpan also doesn't need any formal introduction. He is more versatile than chidiebere Nwakali some people want to force down our throat. E no go work. He offfers options in the LM, DM, CMF & AMF



These are the ones that doesn't need any FIFA approval/clearance before they can play for their father's land.

Time will not permit me to write about Ramon Azeez who is currently helping his club to top the la liga 2 table. I didn't mention Joel obi because they made excuse that he was injured when the list was made. So, Rohr doesnt have credit on his phone to find out about his injury?

If I begin add those ones nko? But it is not necessary now. Now, why did the coaching crew ignored these ones?

I have not mentioned those that need clearance oooo.

Battle it out with Agu when we have about 2 other players fit for that position already on the bench?

Maybe he was brought in for another position but definitely not for Mikel/Agu.

ChrisKels:
I doubt CHIDI was brought in as a replacement for injured Echiejile, I feel he's come onboard to battle it out with Agu, though I would rather Joel was given the chance instead. That said, got my eyes on him, he better not let us down.

Hmm

Icon4s:


Most successful as how?

How many of them have really broken into the team 2 years after their U20 outings? Just Iheanacho and Ndidi(who did not even feature at the CAFU17 and U17 WC). They are still mostly invitees and being used as training materials. At this stage of their careers the 1993 boys were already bossing things in the Super Eagles.

Yes but i think the 2013 will have a larger number of players in the national team when it is all said and done.

1993, we had Kanu, Babayaro and Mobi Oparaku (till he got injured) were regulars. Oruma and Ojigwe was on and off.

2013 Kelechi, Ndidi are the regulars. But the pool of on and off appears to be bigger.

presently all over the English press it is been reported of Tammy Abraham turning down Nigeria for England
and here sir komekn will come telling us how good this English groomed players are...

all over English press Nigeria is being turned to a laughing stock and ridiculed...wearing the SE Jersey should be a thing of pride and honour....

Kog45:
It seems you are not comfortable with Nwakili invitation,I understand your position on his invitation.

I want you to know something about players invitations to Nigeria national team,i believe Icon4s, enomakos,goldfish80 w understand it better.

A lot of things comes in and we behind the scene w never understand than to keep on wondering on what criteria

My man did you know some invitations are not based on merits,these invitations normally come from agents who want to see their players in the national team to boost their market,some invitations come from NFF telling coach look you just have to invite this player,serious pressure, telling the coach the federal characters is their reason.

Did u know most of these foreign coaches have agents that brokered the deal for them to be appointed and these agents have players they are managing,it is a must for such coach to accept his agent players but there are unwritten rules if he make it in the camp fine, did you see Aaron Samuel getting invitation again coz he didn't meet up.

The home bred national team coaches w make recommendations of their choice players either good or bad,the foreign coach w accept coz he is new in the system.

I remember when my university coach was appointed as super eagles assistant and they requested for his inputs on players invitation,he made sure 5 of the university players got called up letter though they are playing in the local league, out of these five, two made it and one later established himself in the eagles to the extent of playing in EPL.

Remember after South Africa match that we lost two goals to nil,there are allegations that some players are getting invitation through agents which Rohr denied, this led to technical committee to mandate that they must see the list first before Rohr made it public.

On Nwakili i can tell anybody that he can get the invitation in many ways,one through agent,it's simple coach I have player who can do it better than Agu or Ogu,OK let me see him,his invitation can come through NFF technical committee and also through Rohr scouts, nobody can say but to based his invitation on merits is dicey.

I just see Nwakili in the mould of Shehu and Ekong, if you check these two players properly, national team shape up their careers coz on club level they don't deserve to be in the team but they are able to prove themselves and they are part of the team XI.

Let see what Nwakili has to offer before we judge him coz personally am not yet convince that he merits the invitation but such player always seize the opportunity and established himself to prove doubting minds wrong.

I am not opposed to his invitation. My earlier statement was made to accommodate people who do not approve of his invitation. I have an open mind to see what the young man can offer. If he takes his chance, good, If not we will have one less to trouble ourselves with until in the future. Look at Osimhen for example. We clamoured for his invitation. Some opposed it. He was tried and was found not satisfactory. Now nobody calls for him. Perhaps until in the future but for now he's not in contention. So let Nwakali be tested, let us see.

Your explanations are well taken.

tbaba1234:


Yes but i think the 2013 will have a larger number of players in the national team when it is all said and done.

1993, we had Kanu, Babayaro and Mobi Oparaku (till he got injured) were regulars. Oruma and Ojigwe was on and off.

2013 Kelechi, Ndidi are the regulars. But the pool of on and off appears to be bigger.

From the 1993 class also was Emma Babayaro, one of the back up Super Eagles goalies then.

By 1997, which is equivalent to 2017 for the 2013 boys, players Like Celestine Babayaro, Mubi Oparaku and Nwankwo Kanu had cemented spots in the Super Eagles. Wilson Oruma and Karibe Ojigwe had to deputise for Okocha and Oliseh, who were kings of Nigerian football then.

Considering how stars studded the Super Eagles was then but those boys together with others that joined from the Olympics team were able to swiftly effect a transition.

Iheanacho has lost his place in the starting 11,.

Ndidi himself (who was not even part of the WC winning side) could not have made the Super Eagles team that had Oliseh as the DM.

Humility017:
presently all over the English press it is been reported of Tammy Abraham turning down Nigeria for England
and here sir komekn will come telling us how good this English groomed players are...

all over English press Nigeria is being turned to a laughing stock and ridiculed...wearing the SE Jersey should be a thing of pride and honour....

Hanhan, is Tammy not good again? But you were calling for his invite some time ago just as I did. That he's declared for England does not take away any merit from the quality of his game. Let him go and play for England. It's all good. The door he has refused to walk into will be open for another person.

Please furnish me with a link to any of the news sources. I googled it and nothing indicating your assertion as regards Tammy's decision

forgiveness:
CHIDIEBERE NWAKALI CAN ONLY PLAY DMF, CMF AND LM. HE NEVER PLAYED AS A LB.

People should not come here and tell us about versatility. No call dog a monkey to deceive the mumus.

If Rohr is truely looking for a DMF, we have many of dem doing well in a better league and in one obscure league in Norway.


No 1. Ryan Sanusi is playing in the EREDIVISIE for Sparta R. He is a free scoring DMF and he can play in 5 other roles( AM, CM, LW, LM & RW)


No 2. Brian Idowu is currently playing in the Russian league. He is also a better option than Chidiebere Nwakali because he is more versatile and plays in a better league than him. He can double times versatile than Chidiebere Nwakali. He has played regularly as a DMF, RB, LB, CB, LM & LM. Why was he placed on standby while an player from obscure league just surface on the list from no where?

No 3. Raheem Lawal doesn't need anyformal introduction. He has played and still playing as an DMF, AM & CM but the corrupt and selective system will never allow merit to reign in this country.He ones played as a RW too.


No 4. Hope Akpan also doesn't need any formal introduction. He more versatile than chidiebere Nwakali some people want to force down our throat. E no go work. He offfers options in the LM, DM, CMF & AMF



These are the ones that doesn't need any FIFA approval before the play for their father's land.

Time will not permit me to write about Ramon Azeez who is currently helping his club to top the la liga 2 table. I didn't mention Joel obi because they made excuse that he wasinjured when the list was made. So, Rohr doesnt have credit on his phonevto find out about his injury?

If I begin add those ones nko? But it is not necessary now. Now, why did the coaching crew ignored these ones?

Hahahaha hahahaha @the bolded. Free this thing. Let me ask you this question: What do you stand to lose upon C. Nwakali's invitation? If he comes and performs, won't you be happy? If he does not, then he's out. Either way you win. The only thing is if he doesn't perform and he's kept on in the team.

I don't even see him playing. Remember that it's the absence of Vicmo and Echiejile that has made this possible.

Humility017:
presently all over the English press it is been reported of Tammy Abraham turning down Nigeria for England
and here sir komekn will come telling us how good this English groomed players are...

all over English press Nigeria is being turned to a laughing stock and ridiculed...wearing the SE Jersey should be a thing of pride and honour....

Saw it too. The Times