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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:10pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Tell him oo. Those are just regular clubs na. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:12pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
I am seeing some unpleasant lies. I will do the needful when I get am for shance (in abokis voice). ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:18pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Mujtahida: two things involved 1. playing in the top 10 best leagues in the Europe 2. playing for the best clubs either in the top 10 or outside This is where you scout for players and not in d bottom of a league. I mean not in where Nwakali whose club his carry all the clubs for head in the league table. ![]() ![]() Modified 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Lucque: 2:21pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
The way we stoOp low ND change our stance sometimes to win arguments is baffling.. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:22pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
komekn:[/b] nobody has argued otherwise all some people have argued is that there is no guarantee that with top players from top leagues you will beat a ''lesser opposition'' if not england should have crushed iceland, while uruguay, italy and england would have wiped the floor with costa rica in 2014 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:24pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
chrisooblog: Firstly Rohr can not do everything he will have to rely on some people and recieve and accept reports from them. If those members of the scouting team are from the NFF then we'll you know what's happening. Then you ask what was the nature content and process management and delivery that led them to think he is good enough. For most Francophone countries in Africa the first port of call is the French league. It's simple that's where the largest overwhelming number of thier players are. Where is the largest pool of overwhelming number of Nigerian origin players outside of Nigeria ![]() ![]() ![]() Add to that the level of available quality. Then what on earth are you scouting for players in Norway for. There is no EPL academy without a considerable number of Nigerian players. From the EPL to league one there are way too many Nigerian players who are not on the radar of the English FA. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:26pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
forgiveness:does ajagun play for the best club in belgium? ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 2:34pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Lucque:my dear. I have seen so much double-speak on this thread that to call them out wilk take the whole day. Some people advocating for Martins some days ago, now realise the inportance of youth suddenly. Is it not surprising? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:37pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
chrisooblog: He plays in the top ten best league in the world which is ×10 better than where chidiebere Nwakali is presently playing. Sorry. ![]() He passed the two tests wella. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:38pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Some will succeed. We can either look at those who succeeded or those who failed. Two perspectives. komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:39pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
It doesn't matter where Ajagun goes, as long as he plays ![]() We are talking Ajagun! chrisooblog: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:40pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
forgiveness:Mention the top ten leagues in the world and let me tell you that Denmark, Greece(I know one or two of your beloved play in Greece, Belgium, English Championship(where your favourite Thiago plays), Austria, Switzerland, Scotland are not in the ten top leagues. As per your 2nd category, So a player playing in the best club in Lesotho is better than one playing in the bottom in Norway? While I prefer that we have a team studded with players playing in top clubs in top leagues because it enhances the pedigree of our team, I always look forward to any player called upon to give a good account of himself in our national team irrespective of the league or club he plays for. I have my bias but I can't be biased against good performance. I argued against Martins precisely because I feel his time with our team is over but if he comes and performs I can't argue against that. Let me use this popular quote of Alexander Pope who said in response to the debate regarding which form of Government is best once said 'of forms of government, let fools contend; what is best is best' I will apply it to say 'of players to play in our national team and the leagues they are picked from, let talking heads contend; what is quality is quality. Kpom 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:40pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
the truth is until recent nigeria never really sort out players from england. we have always gotten players from various sources age grade teams, npfl, various european leagues etc it's just of recent we have had good head way mining talents from queensland. like i said before yes i find nwakali's call up questionable but i've seen so many nigerian players of old come from so called inferior leagues who gave good years of service to the national team to dismiss the young man based on where he currently plays his football komekn: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:41pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
abi the man that jumps higher than a gazelle Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:42pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
nobody takes u seriously when you use the word "lies". And you know why I'm saying that. forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:45pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
lol.. that chinese dey talk another thing MilitaryControl: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:45pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
chrisooblog: Firstly the premiership is totally unique amongst all football leagues in the world. It doesn't reflect the quality if the national team because only few of thier English players are able to get into these teams. The top teams in the EPL are truly international with players from everywhere. However, the English is addressing this problem I was at a premiership academy and the former assistance manager of Brazilian team Sao Paulo is in charge of the first tier youth team training. The emphasis is on skill and the difference is clear. Some of those changes have seen the hitherto unprecedented England winning the two U17 and U20 world cups. That says things are changing can I also add there us now an over representation of African origin players as opposed to Oyibo. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:47pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
chrisooblog: Firstly the premiership is totally unique amongst all football leagues in the world. In Spain, France, Portugal, Germany, Italy all these leagues are overwhelmingly dominated by thier own national players. It doesn't reflect the quality of the national team because only few of thier English players are able to get into these teams. The top teams in the EPL are truly international with players from everywhere. However, the English FA is addressing this problem I was at a premiership academy and the former assistance manager of Brazilian team Sao Paulo is in charge of the first tier youth team training. The emphasis is on skill and the difference is clear. Some of those changes have seen the hitherto unprecedented England winning the two U17 and U20 world cups. That says things are changing can I also add there us now an over representation of African origin players as opposed to Oyibo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:48pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Onyekuru is good. But he needs to play in that hight level regularly. It will bring the best out of him. kingphilip: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 2:49pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Ezenwa wasn't really tested against Cameroon and Zambia and our defence was not under any serious preasureagainst Cameroon in uyo against Zambia we had clean sheet because the Zambia striker lack a killer instinct not because ezenwa make any point blank saves femianski: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:50pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
lol Onyekuru is showing potentials. Mickael2: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 2:52pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Has Chidiebere Nwakali been performing better than Ifeanyi Matthew in Norway?? 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:53pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
forgiveness you said two things are involved you can't for the purposes of argument exclude one to the detriment of the other. you typed these words using your own fingers not mine 1. playing in the top 10 best leagues in the world 2. playing for the best clubs either in the top 10 or outside so based on the bolded does ajagun play for the best club in belgium? simple yes or no forgiveness: He plays in the top ten best league in the world which is ×10 better than where chidiebere Nwakali is presently playing. Sorry. ![]() He passed the two tests wella. ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:55pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
sir we can start analyzing. Let's talk about all the England-bred players that were given a chance.. How many really came good? komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:58pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
bros arsenal, chelsea, man u, liverpool, tottenham, man city have always had good representation of english players that they can't win anything is a mystery only they can explain komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 2:59pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Joebie:but someone up there was inferring that quality players are not found in back water leagues in which to him Belgium falls in so he needs to go to a better league to meet better defenders and that was the reason i had to bring in Alves and PSG into the comment to show that even among top opposition he did it and its not once in which we might say maybe twas his lucky day but TWICE |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:03pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
Oh yes there are also players with potentials in so called back water leagues. kingphilip: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 3:07pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
MESSI OUT OF NIGERIA FRIENDLY Argentina captain Lionel Messi will not play against the Super Eagles when both sides clash in an international friendly on November 14. However, Messi will play the friendly against Russia on November 11 at the reopening of the Luzhnikí stadium in Moscow. Argentina coaching crew, headed by Jorge Sampaoli, will allow the striker fly out of Moscow after the first friendly, to get enough time to rest before returning to club duties. The rest of the Argentina squad will head to Krasnodar, where they will play against Nigeria on November 14. This same scenario happened in the Albiceleste's last international friendlies against Brazil (June 9) and Singapore (June 13), when Messi went the distance against the Seleção but was omitted from the matchday squad against the Asians. Meanwhile, Sampaoli has called up Emiliano Insúa to replace Lucas Biglia, who suffered from an inflammation in the patellar tendon of his left knee. Source: http://news.bounce.ng/Content/messi-out-of-super-eagles-friendly-20171101 I hope this is not true sha |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:08pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
komekn:Pray tell me which Nigerian player plays in the EPL that is not in the National team- Iwobi, Musa, Iheanacho, Aina are already in our team. Who again is left out that you flog this issue so virulently? What do you want us to do again? Abeg mention any other Nigerian who plays in the EPL that is not in our team. Please don't mention Tega, Tammy, Onomah, Solanke and the rest. They are not Nigerians. Sounds harsh but that's the truth as far as their nationality for purposes of international football is concerned. Again mention any Nigerian player that plays in France and Germany that is not in our team. Uzoho just kept goal twice for Deportivo, sharperly we have drafted him in. Ebuehi was pursued. He is now in the team. Wetin you want again? Mind you choice of players is also determined by where we have need. Meanwhile your Tammy is dancing one corner on our heads and we have a team to build. We can't wait. I hope you know that if Zambia had qualified for the World Cup, all those Zanaco players will go to the World Cup. They will not disband them and say look, it's the World Cup, we must take players from the top ten leagues and if not then no team. I agree that we need the best. But even by your standard we have picked our best from the EPL, even from the championship, from the Bundessliga and from France. We have courted foreign borns. Some took the invitation and for the first time we have 5 foreign borns where previously it used to be none or at most one(and if the trend continues it is possible that one day our first eleven will be fb's exclusively or predominantly) but some fb's are still looking at the Queens face before they choose. Meanwhile time is going and again only 23 players make the team. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 3:08pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
isan: Oga ,,,,,perrotti dae try post but he no dae score like that. Forget about super eagles material. They are the best we have to offer. mma onye nwere k'oji ana aka. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:09pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
kingphilip: Argentina without Messi are very beatable but i do not trust the source. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 3:25pm On Nov 01, 2017 |
So even if we take your word for it that he wasn't tested in any of those 3 games, mind you, how does that justify your assertions that he's not an Egus Material? Is it his fault that he wasn't tested?? Anyway, if he wasn't tested against Cameroun and Zambia, don't worry he would soon get tested. I am confident that he would be tested by the Argies, even without Messi, they still pack a lot of firepower on the attack. O pari isan: 3 Likes |
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