Magnifik18:


While I've had my fair share of rolling in mud pits with a certain snake peppersoup blogger and some other random guy to last me 2 decades and a half, i won't take the bickering route with you cos its self worth draining.

Back to some substance:

What's the population of the United States?

Can you give a clear estimate of the number of people who die in Nigeria yearly due to non existent healthcare system? ; not including people who die while travelling by road and sea, people who disappear daily in the hands of kidnappers and ritualists(story for another day).

Don't get carried away with these statistics. The United States has a system that works and this is clearly evident in the lives of wealthy and affluent Nigerians

Food for thought for you; why do hardworking, well meaning, wealthy nigerians raise their families , seek medical help, invest outside your very own safe haven?

Nigeria is a failed nation(zero); take it or throw it away.

When an average nigerian is able to seek and find decent job, seek medical help easily without having to die 1st, travel less than 400 miles route without constantly dodging pot holes, get necessary assistance from your govt for college, have easy access to loans to start up business then you can bring up these your findings and I'll very well listen,

All the bank managers the blogger talked about in this article, do you know the shady things they do to acquire their wealth? Is this normal?

Are you not aware your senators in your country which is below 3rd world earn more than presidents in developed countries? Is this normal?

Your nation doesn't even have a database with all the identities of its citizens; since 1960 till tomorrow and this is normal!

Nigeria is too blessed a nation to be in the condition that it is. Realists should acknowledge that fact than put up article like this.

Don't get me wrong, soooo many nigerians suffer outside Nigeria largely cos of their route of entry.

No where in this world where illegals have it easy so when you see some nigerians graduates doing menial jobs abroad; they are the cause of their problems.

While I am not an expert, I still know that migrating to a new country isn't at all easy at first but a couple years down the line with hard work, life becomes " another day in paradise ".

Most Americans can't afford healthcare
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/more-than-half-of-us-says-they-cant-afford-to-pay-over-100-per-month-for-health-insurance.html

Many Americans can't afford healthcare
www.newsweek.com/many-americans-insured-cant-afford-health-care-334624

It's difficult for many Americans to afford healthcare
https://www.kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/data-note-americans-challenges-with-health-care-costs/

Murder rate is on the increase
https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/09/daily-chart-16

14% of the country's citizens are living in poverty
https://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/what-current-poverty-rate-united-states

About 45% of black kids grow up in poverty, blacks are also the poorest in America
sheets/poverty/stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/poverty/

37,000 people die from accidents each year in US, nearly 8000 people are killed in crashes involving drivers from age 16-20, 1600 children die annually, 2.35 million are either injured or disabled by it, read more...https//www.asirt.org/initiatives/informing-road-users/road-safety-facts/road-crash-statistics

otokx:

In Port Harcourt, 2 bedroom with 3 toilets is 500k with begging.

pls wats the essence of 3 toilets?

Partnerbiz:


pls wats the essence of 3 toilets?

1 is for visitors and is a standalone just when you enter the house before getting into the living room.

The other 2 are ensuite complete with bath and wash hand sink in the bedrooms.

Pidgin2:


Most Americans can't afford healthcare
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/more-than-half-of-us-says-they-cant-afford-to-pay-over-100-per-month-for-health-insurance.html

Many Americans can't afford healthcare
www.newsweek.com/many-americans-insured-cant-afford-health-care-334624

It's difficult for many Americans to afford healthcare
https://www.kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/data-note-americans-challenges-with-health-care-costs/

Murder rate is on the increase
https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/09/daily-chart-16

14% of the country's citizens are living in poverty
https://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/what-current-poverty-rate-united-states

About 45% of black kids grow up in poverty, blacks are also the poorest in America
sheets/poverty/stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/poverty/

How many % are living in poverty in Nigeria?

obibanks:
This is the nigeria you guys are defending www.nairaland.com/4151699/man-shot-dead-port-harcourt-after. If you act like this doesn't concern you, tomorrow may be your turn

So dey nor dey shot person die for America, olodo

Beautyaddy:


Buhahaha!!

Really surprise he's/she's still awake at this time still breaking out his/her frustrations on the Americans who don't give a damn what anyone thinks about them. They have fifty blessed states with blessed territories to enjoy the best of everything what man and nature can ever offer in life...as well as a passport that gives them visa free access to 174 countries and more.



And yes, what can one boast about dear Nigeria?

U choose to see nothing to boast about, dats ur cup of tea.

TUBLEZ:
How many % are living in poverty in Nigeria?

dat is how u people deviate from d discuss, wen u guys get bursted u start asking what about Nigeria

Nadratan:
I haven't been to America but I don't know in God's name why someone will be so mad and envious of that opportunity-laden country or other Developed European countries. For instance, I am a freelancer in Naija here and 80% of my income is from America. There is opportunity and hope in such countries. I do love Naija so much but I can't join the bandwagon of people claiming this country is a sane place to live. Do you even know the percentage of people that are suffering in this country? Do you know how many people that stop me on the road and ask for money everyday?

This issue is not even debatable at all. I am making a good money from my freelancing job, high enough to give me a good life in Naija. But do you know what, I am planning to leave this f*cked up county soon. I need to be in a stable environment and start planning for my unborn children... Moving to a place where I can make better use of my skills, make more money and live a good life.

As a freelancer, I am even scared of the police because they will mistaken you for a yahoo boy and victimise you. Its time to stop arguing blindly. I love Naija but I love my life more...

FYI: I am going on a vacation in the next couple of weeks from Money I earned while virtually living in America. I paid my travel expenses in just 2 days without even feeling it... tell me the percentage of legit working class Nigerians that can afford that??

damn true.

just opened a Fiverr account.
seems you're gonna be my mentor.

plz abg help me with your whatsapp digits?

Pidgin2:


Were blacks not once slaves in America and how many have ruled the country so far? The color of your skin makes you second class otherwise you can keep deceiving yourself

That's not even the issue on this thread, let's not derail.

Jeez, this is so lame. Funny how you lob in a snide remark like this then skid off under the pretext of not derailing the thread.

Are you Hausa or a Northerner, if not then you are equally a second class citizen in Nigeria. Your ethnic background makes you second class otherwise you can keep deceiving yourself.



See what I did there?

Bawss1:


Jeez, this is so lame. Funny how you lob in a snide remark like this then skid off under the pretext of not derailing the thread.

Are you Hausa or a Northerner, if not then you are equally a second class citizen in Nigeria. Your ethnic background makes you second class otherwise you can keep deceiving yourself.



See what I did there?

The last time i checked there were more people suffering in the northern part of Nigeria than the west, east or south. All they got is a very small elite group that controls power. It doesnt reflect in the lives of the people down there. In the south and west hausas and fulani are used for cheap slave labor

timesup234:
The last time i checked there were more people suffering in the northern part of Nigeria than the west, east or south. All they got is a very small elite group that controls power. It doesnt reflect in the lives of the people down there. In the south and west hausas and fulani are used for cheap slave labor

Going by the logic of the poster I quoted the fact that Northern Nigeria controls the political power (small elite or not) then people outside that ethnic group are second class citizens... otherwise, [s]everything you have written here doesn't count[/s] we can keep deceiving ourselves.

But hold on a minute.

If, by your own admission, there are more people suffering in Northern Nigeria, a region that constitutes the bulk of the Nigerian population, doesn't that run counter to the premise of the argument on this thread that Nigerians have it better in terms of life's material needs than the Americans?

spartacus11:
dat is how u people deviate from d discuss, wen u guys get bursted u start asking what about Nigeria

Okay you tell me what it's about, if America is a terrible place to live in, where would u suggest people to stay?

Bawss1:


Jeez, this is so lame. Funny how you lob in a snide remark like this then skid off under the pretext of not derailing the thread.

Are you Hausa or a Northerner, if not then you are equally a second class citizen in Nigeria. Your ethnic background makes you second class otherwise you can keep deceiving yourself.



See what I did there?

You can't know my ethnic group by my skin colour, meanwhile democracy is still young in Nigeria, that's the difference so let's see, but how come the North has the poorest folks in the country are Caucasians (the privileged ones) the poorest in US?

Let's not derail

All those on this thread,saying Nigeria is better than The USA,please list 10 tins that makes Nigeria a better place,and I will list 50 for each of ur 10,about the USA
Let's embrace this truth Nigeria has failed its citizens,every year we loose our skilled proffessionals to foreign countries,why not wen nigeria is among the least wage paying nations in africa not even in the world,did you wake up,or come back from ur pathetic job and see electricity? Swear that u dint use Generator to charge ur phone u use in typing all this rubish here,the fuel self u bought,how much is it? Compared to ur monthly earnings? What is it that is working in this country please I need to know

spartacus11:
dat is how u people deviate from d discuss, wen u guys get bursted u start asking what about Nigeria

U didn't answer my question, u said 14% Americans are jobless and i asked What's the percentage of jobless people in Nigeria.

TUBLEZ:
U didn't answer my question, u said 14% Americans are jobless and i asked What's the percentage of jobless people in Nigeria.

very simple, 86%

Exaftly, the whole point of the thread is to show how bad it is in America, okay we get, but someone should please identify a better country to live in...name one country in the world that is better than America

spartacus11:
dat is how u people deviate from d discuss, wen u guys get bursted u start asking what about Nigeria

This thread is highlighting the problems of America, but isn't offering a solution, it's not very fair to talk about the problems of others without comparing it to ur own
Remove the log first in ur eyes before complaining about the spec in others

fiendishghoul:
Exaftly, the whole point of the thread is to show how bad it is in America, okay we get, but someone should please identify a better country to live in...name one country in the world that is better than America

Here are the Best Countries in the World to live in...and yes Nigeria didn't make the list....loooool!

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/nation-world/here-are-the-11-best-countries-to-live-in-around-the-world/a-better-place-to-live/slideshow/57875320.cms

fiendishghoul:
Exaftly, the whole point of the thread is to show how bad it is in America, okay we get, but someone should please identify a better country to live in...name one country in the world that is better than America

Here are the Best Countries in the World to live in...and yes Nigeria didn't make the list....loooool!

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/nation-world/here-are-the-11-best-countries-to-live-in-around-the-world/a-better-place-to-live/slideshow/57875320.cms

fiendishghoul:
Exaftly, the whole point of the thread is to show how bad it is in America, okay we get, but someone should please identify a better country to live in...name one country in the world that is better than America

Here are the Best Countries in the World to live in...and yes Nigeria didn't make the list....loooool!


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/slideshows/nation-world/here-are-the-11-best-countries-to-live-in-around-the-world/a-better-place-to-live/slideshow/57875320.cms

Pidgin2:


You can't know my ethnic group by my skin colour, meanwhile democracy is still young in Nigeria, that's the difference so let's see, but how come the North has the poorest folks in the country are Caucasians (the privileged ones) the poorest in US?

Let's not derail

While it may seem extraneous to this thread the reason I called out that pattern of thought is that it appears to be how you approach the real subject of this argument.

We can let it rest now because you are indirectly admitting that any Nigerian, yourself included, who is not of Northern extraction is essentially a second class citizen.

Let that sink in for a minute.

fiendishghoul:
Exaftly, the whole point of the thread is to show how bad it is in America, okay we get, but someone should please identify a better country to live in...name one country in the world that is better than America

According to the Human Development Index (HDI), a report used by the United Nations which is an aggregate of statistics covering things like education, life expectancy and per income indicators from virtually all the countries in the world, there are several countries ranking higher than the US. Countries like Norway, Australia, Switzerland and a few others have higher rankings than the US which ties with Canada on the No.10 spot on that list.

Its funny how people on this thread are bashing the US based on anecdotal reports. Little or no attempt has been made to introduce an objective standard to compare the US and Nigeria here as is typical of Nairaland debates.

By the way, on the HDI report Nigeria comes in at 152 (for 2016) out of the 188 countries on the list.

http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

NONNYG:
very simple, 86%

Actually in Nigeria it is somewhere around 14% and rising while in the US it is around 4.5% and falling.



https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

https://tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/unemployment-rate

I took my time to read the whole thread, let me clarify few things here;

1. You can never compare Nigeria to America in anyway

2. It's not easy to make good money in America like people think

3. Beggars are in America like we have in Nigeria

4. You can make more than a million naira in America every month without American degree

5. Many Nigerian in America are lazy! Therefore they complain a lot and give people back home fake story.

6. No need to hate people in America because you don't have chance to be there

7. No need to look down on people in Nigeria or lie to them just because you have chance to be in America

8. America is land of opportunity for hustler and people who know what they are doing. Your destiny is in your hand, you can make it big time or smoke away your life.
9. Kudos to all legit immigrant in America, you can make as far as you can imagine !!!

Bawss1:


While it may seem extraneous to this thread the reason I called out that pattern of thought is that it appears to be how you approach the real subject of this argument.

We can let it rest now because you are indirectly admitting that any Nigerian, yourself included, who is not of Northern extraction is essentially a second class citizen.

Let that sink in for a minute.

It has sunk in alright.

timesup234:
Your post is for the brainwashed. There are more people suffering in America than Nigeria. America is a country filled with homeless and hopeless people. The net worth of Americans is tied to the value of their home they wont be able to afford till death. College educated Americans at the age of 35yrs are still living with their parents while the females sell their bodies to sugar daddies in europe in order to come up with the monthly $200 student loan debt. America infratructure is in a decaying state and illiteracy is rampant with very high suicide rate. The US. death rate is higher than that of Nigeria in figures, i can go on and on and on. America indeed is one overhyped shithole

Whoever is in the US should never bother arguing with you cos you are in a pretty bad shape upstairs. Its only GOD that can deliver u from this hate...

Chapecoense:

Whoever is in the US should never bother arguing with you cos you are in a pretty bad shape upstairs. Its only GOD that can deliver u from this hate...

The last time I checked minimum wage in Nigeria is 18k while in us it's $11 per hour if u are lazy and do only 8hrs a day that's 88 dollars per day 88$ multiply by 360 =31680 per day while 18/30 days equals 600 per day.no matter how bad America is u can't compare with Nigeria.. 90% of Nigerian politician families resides outside Nigeria. None of Jagabans kids lives in Nigeria same goes to all other politicians and corrupt civil servants.

TUBLEZ:
The last time I checked minimum wage in Nigeria is 18k while in us it's $11 per hour if u are lazy and do only 8hrs a day that's 88 dollars per day 88$ multiply by 360 =31680 per day while 18/30 days equals 600 per day.no matter how bad America is u can't compare with Nigeria.. 90% of Nigerian politician families resides outside Nigeria. None of Jagabans kids lives in Nigeria same goes to all other politicians and corrupt civil servants.

It doesnt matter how hard you try to twist the topic, the simple fact remaina. Nigerians in America are broke, not just broke but dead broke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfunrM7aDg

Chapecoense:

Whoever is in the US should never bother arguing with you cos you are in a pretty bad shape upstairs. Its only GOD that can deliver u from this hate...

Whoever is in Nigeria should never bother arguing with you cos you are in a pretty bad shape upstairs. It is only our ancestors that can deliver you from this hate

timesup234:
It doesnt matter how hard you try to twist the topic, the simple fact remaina. Nigerians in America are broke, not just broke but dead broke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfunrM7aDg

I don't have intention of quoting you or get into argument. But i need to let you know that majority of Naija in America are doing well. I mean they are living well compare to Naija state of living.

You can only go broke in America if you are lazy! Some Naija(and other immigrant from around the world) are even doing better that American citizen.
It can only be difficult in the first few months or years in America depending on your situation. But the risk of relocating from Niaja to America worth it X million

timesup234:
It doesnt matter how hard you try to twist the topic, the simple fact remaina. Nigerians in America are broke, not just broke but dead broke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfunrM7aDg

Boss dis clip sittles d argument here, wow nice, I will bookmark this to watch the full video later even download it self