TheGoodJoe:


He would have loved to play for England does not mean he would have preferred playing for England over Nigeria. England is his home.



"Iwobi has apparently talked of feeling unwanted by England, though, in fairness to the FA, it did presumably play a part that the player’s uncle is Jay-Jay Okocha, football royalty in Nigeria."

You are even posting why Iwobi picked Nigeria over England and trying to make it the opposite. He chose Nigeria because his heart is with us.

Gerrit?

jihday:
bros, your beef with this guy no be here o

TheGoodJoe:


He would have loved to play for England does not mean he would have preferred playing for England over Nigeria. England is his home.



"Iwobi has apparently talked of feeling unwanted by England, though, in fairness to the FA, it did presumably play a part that the player’s uncle is Jay-Jay Okocha, football royalty in Nigeria."

You are even posting why Iwobi picked Nigeria over England and trying to make it the opposite. He chose Nigeria because his heart is with us.

Gerrit?

Famocious:


Oluwashina got this wrong sha ..

komekn:


DISAGREE COMPLETELY WITH YOUR WHOLSCALE ASSUMPTION.

TheGoodJoe:


Let us not run players down because of preference. Egwueke was not bad as people made him out to be. He was a genuine talent and in the game against South Africa when we drew 2-2, Egwueke did something special.

We went on an all out attack, leaving Egwueke to do most of the defending. I think we took Omeruo off and left Egwueke in defence. With the full backs pushing forward.

Egwueke held that defence down, battling lots of counters solo. Otigba is respected but are we sure he was better than the lots of defenders we had? Home or abroad should not be the final decider but the quality of the player.

Joebie:
hahaha So if England had called him while he was busy loving to play for England, he would have turned them down still abi for his preferred choice? I know that's what you'd so love to believe.

goldfish80:


Egwuekwe also played exceptionally well in Congo. He had a nasty cut on the head but still dug in with his bandaged head. He was a big reason we won that game. People remember Aaron Samuel for scoring the winner but Egwuekwe was the main man.

It leaves me quite sad when people call out players when they want to make a mundane comparison.

On this thread, It has become a fun thing to name Uche Nwaofor in Keshi's shiit list. This same Uche Nwaofor was the top scorer for the John Obuh lead U20 team in 2011.
This guy was so good that Venlo signed him up straight from Rangers. At Venlo, he formed a deadly strike partnership with Ahmed Musa which terrorised teams in Holland. On his Super Eagles debut, he scored a brace against South Africa. The second goal was a back heel which embarrassed Khunle!
I find it a bit odd that he keeps making everyone's shiit list.

Mujtahida:

Abeg oga I didn't make anything up. If it's my opinion I'd say so but what I have stated thus far is informed by an article I read.
He did not wish England came for him yet he would have 'loved' to play for England'. So now stop making things up. Here are excerpts from the article that informed my assertion which you have ignorantly tagged as me making things up:
'Yet Iwobi said himself in January that he would have “loved” to play for England and it would be intriguing to know why the FA did not try harder to make it happen before Friday’s cutoff point"
"Iwobi has apparently talked of feeling unwanted by England, though, in fairness to the FA, it did presumably play a part that the player’s uncle is Jay-Jay Okocha, football royalty in Nigeria."
Here's the link to the full article and pay attention to what Wenger said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/mar/26/arsenal-alex-iwobi-england-nigeria

Joebie:
hahaha So if England had called him while he was busy loving to play for England, he would have turned them down still abi for his preferred choice? I know that's what you'd so love to believe.

jotey:


iwobi never wanted to play for England

tbaba1234:


Egwuekwe might have had decent games but he was not national team standard. That does not mean, he is a bad player. Same as Oduamadi and Agbim..

Joebie:
Another good news

Mujtahida:

I agree that it's an assumption based on our experiences thus far. You can prove me wrong. You have first hand knowledge. Mention those who currently would chose Nigeria over England.

tbaba1234:


Egwuekwe might have had decent games but he was not national team standard. That does not mean, he is a bad player. Same as Oduamadi and Agbim..

ChrisKels:
But wait oo, nobody wan answer me dis qstn, how would u av felt if Alampasu had dumped us for Togo during the last AFCON since he is of Togolese descent and we didn't make it to the Afcon?

Also how would u feel if Alampasu won his first team spot tomorrow at Feirence and realises that his chances to rep naija in Russia would be slim, then suddenly, he decided to ditch Nigeria for Togo if Togo had qualified as well?

He would be something next to or even worse than an ingrate and traitor before us abi?
And our reason?
*He was brought through the Nigerian system, Nigeria gave him and his family life else mayb dey would av bn dead of hunger somewhere in Togo (u know how we brag as per our oyel money), NFF invested so much on him etc.

Do onto others as u would want them onto u. Tammy is the FA's investment not the NFF's. Allow them (FA) the reward of their Labour. As long as we want English bred stars we should remain content as the fall back options unless we have some Bentalabs (who kicked away the fortunes that comes from representing France, for his love for mother Algeria) in England. England will always be the shark and Nigeria the remora as far as Anglo-Nigerian players are concerned. We wll always feed from the scrubs (the akpans, Aluko, Ameobis) while they take the chunks Allis, Tammys.

TheGoodJoe:


Can Southgate call them up quickly, so we can filter the Queen lovers out?

TheGoodJoe:
We need those that want to play for us. Those who dreamt as kids of winning titles flying our flag. Not devising tricks, schemes or begging anyone to play for us.

We need to hunt our own and play ours. That is why I will always support a home-grown U17 team. In that place, we get to develop our own.

TheGoodJoe:


What is the standard? I doubt those you feel are the standard could pull off what Egwueke could do. He was quality. People just looked down on him because he was home-based.

I also did until I watched him closely.

ChrisKels:
But wait oo, nobody wan answer me dis qstn, how would u av felt if Alampasu had dumped us for Togo during the last AFCON since he is of Togolese descent and we didn't make it to the Afcon?

Also how would u feel if Alampasu won his first team spot tomorrow at Feirence and realises that his chances to rep naija in Russia would be slim, then suddenly, he decided to ditch Nigeria for Togo if Togo had qualified as well?

He would be something next to or even worse than an ingrate and traitor before us abi?
And our reason?
*He was brought through the Nigerian system, Nigeria gave him and his family life else mayb dey would av bn dead of hunger somewhere in Togo (u know how we brag as per our oyel money), NFF invested so much on him etc.

Do onto others as u would want them onto u. Tammy is the FA's investment not the NFF's. Allow them (FA) the reward of their Labour. As long as we want English bred stars we should remain content as the fall back options unless we have some Bentalabs (who kicked away the fortunes that comes from representing France, for his love for mother Algeria) in England. England will always be the shark and Nigeria the remora as far as Anglo-Nigerian players are concerned. We wll always feed from the scrubs (the akpans, Aluko, Ameobis) while they take the chunks Allis, Tammys.

komekn:


So when Aluko made the commitment to play for Nigeria. How was he treated for all his undying patriotism.

This problem is not about your definition of patriotism.

But the very thing you wish to present as best is at the heart of the matter. I have been involved with NFF recruitment drives in the UK after one engagement I withdrew, the depth of depraved shameless corruption was too much for my palate to take.

They really wanted desperate boys who with thier Nigerian patriotic agents were prepared to settle. Most of the quality English kids withdrew sometimes at the insistence of thier undiluted full blooded Nigerian parents.

Tega situation is unique he is the number 1 young striker in the premiership. All eyes are on him, he can't win and either way he looses. Huge pressure was brought to bear on him.

If he chose Nigeria the backlash would have been unprecedented in England I assure you. He rejects Nigeria the backlash has already started, he simply cannot win. I really believed be was going to choose Nigeria. I just didn't expect this degree of pressure on him.

His profile has skyrocketed and Amaju should have been far more covert in his approach.

komekn:


Is that the central defender that played for Warri Wolves?

Joebie:
Another good news

Humility017:

it shows sheyi ojo is still eyeinh England call up....
God sees my heart...I will surely have an e-war without anyone here who dare talk about sheyi ojo some thing here....

all this boys are all eyeing 3 lions...and some monikers here...rather than focus on realities will be littering the thread with this English born players.....
especially sir komekn and forgiveness....

Curtisaxel27:
Here are a few lessons we can learn from Tammy's snub:
1. Catch them young:
NFF must learn to catch talented foreign borns before they start making big waves. Moses was playing in crystal palace when we got him, now think what would've happened if we waited two more years when he became a Chelsea star. Same applies in Iwobi's case. If we had gone for Abraham two seasons ago when he was just another young rookie, we would've been singing another song now. That is why I keep calling for the inclusion of young foreign borns like Deji Beyreuther. The truth is, if Deji joins Bayern Munich next season and Germany gets interested in him, no Jupiter or Pluto will convince him to look our way again. The sheer prospect of glory and assured success with the German team will be enough to tie him to the Europeans.

2. Don't beg them:
Let's face it ; Tammy has disgraced us. It pains me to think that a nation of our caliber that has millions of above average players scattered across the world will stoop to beg one disinterested foreign boy to play for us.
I seriously believe that if Pinnick had not began to
show interest in Tammy, the English FA wouldn't have looked his way. The young man rode on our backs into the three lions. I believe any player that needs to be "begged" to play for us doesn't deserve to don the green and white. Foreign born players should indicate interest in the national team, not the other way round.

Finally, we need to improve on our scouting. Like I have said Nigeria has numerous talents in different leagues all over the world who are more than willing to represent us many of which we don't even know. It's up to the technical crew to expand thier radar from the top European leagues to other leagues. Let them stop making it look like we don't have players.


BTW:
This is my first comment in this section. I've been viewing in ghost mode before sha.

jotey:


Ejaria

him no go think twice sef

Mujtahida:

I agree that it's an assumption based on our experiences thus far. You can prove me wrong. You have first hand knowledge. Mention those who currently would chose Nigeria over England.

ChrisKels:
But wait oo, nobody wan answer me dis qstn, how would u av felt if Alampasu had dumped us for Togo during the last AFCON since he is of Togolese descent and we didn't make it to the Afcon?

Also how would u feel if Alampasu won his first team spot tomorrow at Feirence and realises that his chances to rep naija in Russia would be slim, then suddenly, he decided to ditch Nigeria for Togo if Togo had qualified as well?

He would be something next to or even worse than an ingrate and traitor before us abi?
And our reason?
*He was brought through the Nigerian system, Nigeria gave him and his family life else mayb dey would av bn dead of hunger somewhere in Togo (u know how we brag as per our oyel money), NFF invested so much on him etc.

Do onto others as u would want them onto u. Tammy is the FA's investment not the NFF's. Allow them (FA) the reward of their Labour. As long as we want English bred stars we should remain content as the fall back options unless we have some Bentalabs (who kicked away the fortunes that comes from representing France, for his love for mother Algeria) in England. England will always be the shark and Nigeria the remora as far as Anglo-Nigerian players are concerned. We wll always feed from the scrubs (the akpans, Aluko, Ameobis) while they take the chunks Allis, Tammys.

safarigirl:
we no dey find goal keeper, so if Alampasu chose to dump us for Togo, I wouldn't actually care.

I didn't even care about Tammy until some people here decided to force him down our throats even after he denied us.

I have never cared for these English boys, when Aina's own started, I no even talk. It is the useless hype we gave that alakoba that is paining me.