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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:33pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
goldfish80: Tammy has dual citizenship and can decide either way. Oduamadi was once rated highly as a youngster but he did not improve. There was no strong reasons for an invitation to the senior team. He had not shown any thing of note at senior level. It is like saying Solanke should be invited to the England senior team based on his youth performances. Two different levels. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:35pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
Mujtahida: I know it was only Tahiti. But the truth is that we have played countries of relative strength to Tahiti and still some of our super star players never scored a hattrick against them. We played a stranded, badly beat up, war torn, Liberia. A country that couldn't boast of a stadium. Yet, our Super star players couldn't do a hattrick against them. Like Igbos will say, ejiro onu etinye azu na ofe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:35pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
The only problem people have with Nwakali is not because of talent but he is not in a glorified League. Forgetting that he is not in a glorified League because of circumstances outside talent. I have stressed this many times and I am glad Rohr is looking outside the league hype. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:35pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: National team is not dumping ground for every d...h....it is for those who have distinguished themselves among the rest. As it is Chidiebere Nwakali is not qualified to be given any chance ahead of those who are doing well better than him. They didn't get to where they through magomago way like chidiebere is about to do. He is not the best in Norway neither is he considered for any award because he is not pleasant to behold even in the low low lowly Norwegian league. Sorry. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:37pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
The true losses is not people like Alli who does not care about us but not doing our best to make the best out of gems we unearth ourselves.. .. TheGoodJoe 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:39pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If he is goog enough why is he not considered for any tangible award in Lowly Norwegian league? So, other Nigerians wey hustle reach where dem dey no get circumstances and no like better things, na? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:39pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
forgiveness: Nigeria is not innit where you do not get hindered by work permit and other racial factors. It is a longer road. That is why we have to go the extra mile to polish our true gems to shine. That is why Westerhof found a true gem like Oliseh, polished him with the National team and he shone for the World to see. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:39pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
Lol the goodjoe has added flavor. These days every message is a finito back to back. OK oo We alrdy have "o pari" now "finito" and counting... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:41pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
tbaba1234: I guess this is the point we dilly dally on when best it is to call up a player. Do we wait till the player have blown? Or do we invite them over and integrate them early if they have the potential. Do you know Siasia and Simon Kalika wanted to build the Super Eagles attack around Victor Moses and Oduamadi? I read the spreadsheet interview by Kalika where he stated as much. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:41pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
forgiveness: I have told you, he is good enough. That was why Brendan Rodgers wanted him. That was why Pellegrini took him on tour with Manchester City before he injured. That is why City have refused to sell him. He is in a lowly-rated League because of circumstances, not lack of talent. Finito. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:41pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
komekn:There's no doubt that your position is a sensible one namely that players should pass through the filters of competition at strong clubs and leagues before national team call up. But at the same time such laws should not be rigidly applied. The truth however is that in our own case they are no standards. That's where we are at now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:43pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: So, na only chidiebere Nwakali be hustler? The rest don't need work permit!? Oga! This is not the era of Oliseh where almost all the players played in the national team before them go obodo oyinbo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:43pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
Page 2000 looking at us like 4 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:46pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
Chrismario:Macheda got an Italian call up when he burst through the scene. Players get called up if the national team managers think they have potentials. Nnamdi Oduamadi didn't get a call up for doing nothing at the time. He was very close to the AC Milan first team just like we have the right back at Roma now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:46pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
komekn:Convener of team Nigeria UK. Buhari Doherty |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:49pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: If he is good enough let him find his way to the top like Kayode, Awoniyi etc After all, Awoniyi was also denied the opportunity to play with Liverpool due to work permit but we no here noise . You have three children who needs work permit but you singled out one leaving the rest. What should that be called? Nepotism and .... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:49pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I have sat with at least ten different HOD of recruitment in the premiership over the last 10 years. In all cases there is a balance score card system of sorts to determine players selection. Never is selection done on the hunch and perception of one coach. Unless the performances are so outstanding that there is no debate. That will be the case of top performing players. This is not about England but the best leagues in the world, whether it is the MLS which is comprehensively ahead of the Nordic leagues by a huge margin. A player in a third from bottom team in a league rated 30 in Europe is a non starter. I actually would rate the NPFL higher than the Norwegian league 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:52pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
forgiveness: Awoniyi dae top? ![]() Issokay |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:53pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
goldfish80:So because of the hat trick Oduamadi should continue in the team? Mba scored the goal that won for us our third nations cup. Where's Mba today. Football is a performance sport, it's results driven. It's not like our politics where for purposes of political patronage and settlement people are compensated/rewarded with juicy appointments and they go seat there and do nada. In football you are 'compensated' too but your performance this round, guarantees your 'compensation' next round. It's a law: you must perform. You don't, you get kicked out. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:55pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
jotey: At least, higher about one chidiebere Nwakali who some people wants to use the national team to resuscitate his career. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:59pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
goldfish80: Let's say a player is invited based on potential. At some point, it has got to register that he does not cut it at senior level yet. For many, it was confusing to see Oduamadi playing so many games when he was not at that level. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:59pm On Nov 02, 2017 |
Udoukhai has been invited to Germany under 21... 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:02am On Nov 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:You probably haven't been following my small talk with tbaba1234. The anchor point of my argument is that every player deserves respect in their own right. If we take stock, you will realise that most players fans usually have a go at have somewhat justified their inclusion in the team. Obviously not every player,but you get my drift. Infact, the much maligned Paul Onobi won man of the match award in an AFCON qualifier game played in Port Harcourt. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 12:03am On Nov 03, 2017 |
tbaba1234: Today get as e b |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:05am On Nov 03, 2017 |
good point! ChrisKels: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:06am On Nov 03, 2017 |
goldfish80:I followed your discussion with him. The point- and he emphasised this - is that it's no disrespect to analyse a players performance. and for me it's not about hat tricks or about MOTM. It's about consistent quality performance. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:06am On Nov 03, 2017 |
The previous time he did not honor it abi? tbaba1234: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 12:08am On Nov 03, 2017 |
forgiveness: You are always downgrading a player you don't want in the national team It is not good for your health 3 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:12am On Nov 03, 2017 |
tbaba1234:Funny enough, this was the exact same thing I said about Ekong. He was a joke player when he first got invites to the Super Eagles. He was very bad at ball distribution (still suck at that), swings wildly at crosses like a drunk and generally very incompetent for this level. It's a small miracle he is as good as he is now. Football managers are not wizards. They are humans like everybody else. This is why fair chances should be given to everyone. You never can tell where the next gem could come from. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:12am On Nov 03, 2017 |
jotey: Do you want me to show you how you downgraded Ajagun on this thread? If it is not you then I will show you those that downgraded players like Awoniyi, Kayode etc |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:17am On Nov 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida: He was comparing Egwuekwe with Otigba. The tone in his comparison was quite derogatory to Egwuekwe. No disrespect to Otigba, but Its not like Egwuekwe was being compared to Cannavaro. It was a witch hunt not analysis. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:18am On Nov 03, 2017 |
ChrisKels: Na my fault? Zaha did the same thing but he ended playing for Cote di vior. This is just a friendly and that's all. I will fight tooth and nail until the end because the boy is talented abeg. He is another Dele Ali. |
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