komekn:


I have sat with at least ten different HOD of recruitment in the premiership over the last 10 years. In all cases there is a balance score card system of sorts to determine players selection.

Never is selection done on the hunch and perception of one coach. Unless the performances are so outstanding that there is no debate.

That will be the case of top performing players.

This is not about England but the best leagues in the world, whether it is the MLS which is comprehensively ahead of the Nordic leagues by a huge margin.

A player in a third from bottom team in a league rated 30 in Europe is a non starter. I actually would rate the NPFL higher than the Norwegian league

forgiveness:


If he is good enough let him find his way to the top like Kayode, Awoniyi etc

After all, Awoniyi was also denied the opportunity to play with Liverpool due to work permit but we no here noise .

You have three children who needs work permit but you singled out one leaving the rest. What should that be called? Nepotism and ....

Joebie:
I got good news. real good news

safarigirl:
so, you will not get Nigerian jersey. Na Egypt wey no concern you, na their own you wan get

Wehdone

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr knows more about Youth football in Europe that you. He has worked in the system for decades, worked with respected names in the game, trained coaches and worked with quality scouts. Give it a rest. You can not teach him about European scouting of quality talent.

He already proved you wrong with his assessment of Shehu and Awaziem which is far from your understanding of the game.

Gerrit?

safarigirl:
people want who they want. Some people want Tammy, thers don't see any need for him.

Never assume everyone wanted Tammy. Some of us really did not care about Tammy until the whole Pinnick fiasco.

And yes, we have, NFF just don't want to call them and the public isn't hyping them because they are not playing in England.

Someone like me now, I have always been for Dessers, I no get talk with Tammy

kingphilip:
I can see the Ajagun, Ilori et al you've clamored for have been nominated for the best player award

Mujtahida:

This is vintage Kog45. You've made my day.

Kog45:
If i can understand you very well you believe one section in this country were being treated unjustly when it comes to invitation to the national team.I just guess,so am not tagging you a tribal guy because you are expressing your view.

I don't think there is anything like that and if you want to look it at critically,truly invitations to national team should be based on merits but sometimes we see a player in the team that warrant question,my man it happens and only coach can explain.

Good you mentioned Gbenga Okunowo case when he was doing well at Barcelona meaning you want us to go to memory lane to discuss this issue.I can tell you a lot of players that find themselves in such situations in national team, some find their way forcefully some couldn't get invitations.

1.I believe you remember Richard Owubokiri, this was a player that paint Europe with goals,highest goalscorer in the whole in the whole Europe but find it difficult to get invitation. He was forced on Westerhoff against South Africa and in that match he had a goal.This great player was substituted and never get a call up again.

2.Mike Obiku was a very good player doing it well with Feyenord in dutch league scoring goals but couldn't make it to the national team,his exploit in dutch league can only be rival by Finidi George but this guy was not given chance,may be few caps.

3.Chris Ohenhen was one of the greatest Nigeria striker in LA liga history scoring goals for compostella every season but find it difficult to get invitation made just few appearances for Eagles, the rest is history.

4.Godwin Opara was a very good CB playing in French league for Strasbourg later PSG but did you know Godwin forced his way into the team prior to France 98 after being denied the opportunity for so long with Nigeria preferred using average CB like Uche Okafor,Isaac Semitoje.

5.Karibe Ojigwe was a perfect DM/CM having a good time then with Karlsruhe later Bayern Leverkusen but did you know what,this guy was denied invitation despite doing well but a very average player like Garba Lawal was getting invitation with coaches telling us he was playing to instructions.

6.James Obiorah was a mercurial player,marvellous to watch,very skillful and highly rated youngster who was denied invitation when it matter most.This guy saved Nigeria qualifications to Atlanta 96 with stunning free kick just two minutes to the end of that particular match i can't really recollect the match.

Did you know Obiorah was forced to be invited for that match but after the match no invitation again until a Jamaica match prior to France 98,he put on a superlative performance but was dropped. It was this frustration that forced him to make a confession prior to 2002 W/C that national team coaches are collecting bribes, he came into the team and displaced Wilson Oruma.

7.Benjamin Nzeakor a very good winger in his days but couldn't get the call when necessary one of the very few Nigerians to play in Brazilian league.

8.Uwem Ekarika good winger in his days but couldn't smell national team like others who are not better than him,very few caps.

9.James Etokebe a good winger who was doing well but not giving much chance in eagles to impress.

10.Kalu Uche the senior bro of Ike Uche find it so hard to break into Eagles,though he later did but that was at the later end of his career.A lot don't know that Kalu was the best player at COJA but was denied invitation despite doing well every season in Europe until he find his way and appeared at 2010W/C scoring two goals.

11.Ajibade Babalade had a great appearance at Senegal 92 paring Keshi at the CB better than Uche Okafor but after Afcon he find it difficult to get into the team .

12.Chidi Nwanu was doing well in Europe and was the best Nigeria CB playing for Anderlecht but Westerhoff denied him invitation preferring even player like Isaac Semitoje,he gatecrashed into US 94 when it was obvious that his presence was needed in the team.

Honestly we have a lot of them and is not based on where you come from,it happens and only coach can gives reasons because sometimes is a puzzle for fans seeing certain player doing well and not getting invitation.

komekn:


So when Aluko made the commitment to play for Nigeria. How was he treated for all his undying patriotism.

This problem is not about your definition of patriotism.

But the very thing you wish to present as best is at the heart of the matter. I have been involved with NFF recruitment drives in the UK after one engagement I withdrew, the depth of depraved shameless corruption was too much for my palate to take.

They really wanted desperate boys who with thier Nigerian patriotic agents were prepared to settle. Most of the quality English kids withdrew sometimes at the insistence of thier undiluted full blooded Nigerian parents.

Tega situation is unique he is the number 1 young striker in the premiership. All eyes are on him, he can't win and either way he looses. Huge pressure was brought to bear on him.

If he chose Nigeria the backlash would have been unprecedented in England I assure you. He rejects Nigeria the backlash has already started, he simply cannot win. I really believed be was going to choose Nigeria. I just didn't expect this degree of pressure on him.

His profile has skyrocketed and Amaju should have been far more covert in his approach.

Mickael2:



just because Rohr is the coach doesn't make him all knowing. You'd be suprised that Komekn knows the youth system more than Rohr does.


Wait sef, you were the one that said something about Villas Boas teaching an older coach a thing or two when you were trying to defend your point that a coach may not know everything, now that Komekn is following thesame path you are now claiming the coach knows more than all of us. Wehdone ooo

Kog45:
Thanks,the issue of players invitations is something that only coach can answer and sometimes football administrators even populace influences coaches decision.

The populace made sure Peter Rufai was recalled to national team towards Afcon & US 94 despite having Deportivo LA Corunna number 1 Winfred Agbonavbare as Super eagles number 1,fans don't want to see Agbonavbare in goal,they agitated for Rufai returned and funny enough Rufai for some years was clubless.

Westerhoff need to succumb to fans pressure and recalled Rufai believing Rufai must be special, he engaged a goalkeeper trainer to shape up Rufai back to form but i w not deceive you Agbonavbare was better just too glaring keeping in LA liga week in week out and people are agitating for Rufai who was just coming back.

If u ask me what was Agbonavbare offence,a match he conceded 5 goals in 80s in local match,all those goals wasn't his fault but Nigerians termed him Agbonibasket.

It was even surprising when Nigerians find him in LA liga doing it well and honestly a better and improved Agbonavbare.

Honestly at Afcon and US 94 we don't need Rufai again with emergence of Agbonavbare but Westerhoff need to listen to fans yearnings.

In such situation like this what do we say

Mickael2:



just because Rohr is the coach doesn't make him all knowing. You'd be suprised that Komekn knows the youth system more than Rohr does.


Wait sef, you were the one that said something about Villas Boas teaching an older coach a thing or two when you were trying to defend your point that a coach may not know everything, now that Komekn is following thesame path you are now claiming the coach knows more than all of us. Wehdone ooo

Mujtahida:

I followed your discussion with him. The point- and he emphasised this - is that it's no disrespect to analyse a players performance.
and for me it's not about hat tricks or about MOTM. It's about consistent quality performance.

Mujtahida:

Yes I heard about Agbonibasket. And if not that you saying it now I look at him as a basket. Mind you I never watched him in any of the matches he featured for but that label of Agbonibasket has stuck in my mind. That's the power of tags and labels. Once they stick, you are marked for life especially if they are negative labels. Even if you do otherwise than the label people will still pin it on you. Rufai had the appeal. Some have that luck.

Imagine your saying that pressure made Westerhof to recall Rufai in those days of limited media exposure. How about today in this time of social media. In a minute huge pressure can be brought on anything. The clamour will be so loud and unrelenting so much so that if you are not strong you will act contrary to your own desires. Today just about anybody can get into your personal space. We are at an all time high to exposure and we are still pushing the boundaries. Until man can read the thoughts of his fellow man like a book he will not rest. And even now the technology is available. It has not just filtered down to the people. But in time it will.

Kog45:
If i can understand you very well you believe one section in this country were being treated unjustly when it comes to invitation to the national team.I just guess,so am not tagging you a tribal guy because you are expressing your view.

I don't think there is anything like that and if you want to look it at critically,truly invitations to national team should be based on merits but sometimes we see a player in the team that warrant question,my man it happens and only coach can explain.

Good you mentioned Gbenga Okunowo case when he was doing well at Barcelona meaning you want us to go to memory lane to discuss this issue.I can tell you a lot of players that find themselves in such situations in national team, some find their way forcefully some couldn't get invitations.

1.I believe you remember Richard Owubokiri, this was a player that paint Europe with goals,highest goalscorer in the whole in the whole Europe but find it difficult to get invitation. He was forced on Westerhoff against South Africa and in that match he had a goal.This great player was substituted and never get a call up again.

2.Mike Obiku was a very good player doing it well with Feyenord in dutch league scoring goals but couldn't make it to the national team,his exploit in dutch league can only be rival by Finidi George but this guy was not given chance,may be few caps.

3.Chris Ohenhen was one of the greatest Nigeria striker in LA liga history scoring goals for compostella every season but find it difficult to get invitation made just few appearances for Eagles, the rest is history.

4.Godwin Opara was a very good CB playing in French league for Strasbourg later PSG but did you know Godwin forced his way into the team prior to France 98 after being denied the opportunity for so long with Nigeria preferred using average CB like Uche Okafor,Isaac Semitoje.

5.Karibe Ojigwe was a perfect DM/CM having a good time then with Karlsruhe later Bayern Leverkusen but did you know what,this guy was denied invitation despite doing well but a very average player like Garba Lawal was getting invitation with coaches telling us he was playing to instructions.

6.James Obiorah was a mercurial player,marvellous to watch,very skillful and highly rated youngster who was denied invitation when it matter most.This guy saved Nigeria qualifications to Atlanta 96 with stunning free kick just two minutes to the end of that particular match i can't really recollect the match.

Did you know Obiorah was forced to be invited for that match but after the match no invitation again until a Jamaica match prior to France 98,he put on a superlative performance but was dropped. It was this frustration that forced him to make a confession prior to 2002 W/C that national team coaches are collecting bribes, he came into the team and displaced Wilson Oruma.

7.Benjamin Nzeakor a very good winger in his days but couldn't get the call when necessary one of the very few Nigerians to play in Brazilian league.

8.Uwem Ekarika good winger in his days but couldn't smell national team like others who are not better than him,very few caps.

9.James Etokebe a good winger who was doing well but not giving much chance in eagles to impress.

10.Kalu Uche the senior bro of Ike Uche find it so hard to break into Eagles,though he later did but that was at the later end of his career.A lot don't know that Kalu was the best player at COJA but was denied invitation despite doing well every season in Europe until he find his way and appeared at 2010W/C scoring two goals.

11.Ajibade Babalade had a great appearance at Senegal 92 paring Keshi at the CB better than Uche Okafor but after Afcon he find it difficult to get into the team .

12.Chidi Nwanu was doing well in Europe and was the best Nigeria CB playing for Anderlecht but Westerhoff denied him invitation preferring even player like Isaac Semitoje,he gatecrashed into US 94 when it was obvious that his presence was needed in the team.

Honestly we have a lot of them and is not based on where you come from,it happens and only coach can gives reasons because sometimes is a puzzle for fans seeing certain player doing well and not getting invitation.

Joebie:
I'm not done yet

Joebie:
I'm not done yet

jotey:


Why are we like this

Dem dn insult Tammy tire for Instagram

Mujtahida:

This is what riles me. If you toast a lady and she no gree, you chin up and move to the next babe no be to dey insult her. Just wish him all the best and move on.

jotey:


Why are we like this

Dem dn insult Tammy tire for Instagram

oloriooko:
Am so pissed about this Tammy saga, so much talk and abuses from so many people
Please all you should let Tammy be!
If he chose to play for England, so be it!
If he turns back to choose Nigeria, so be it!
But enough of all the insults on the young man
He has the full right to make his choice of country to play for

SerVik:

You should know that these strict laws and tags only hold when they are trying to keep certain players that don't have the prerequisite flashy resume from the National team, these laws are relaxed when their favorite players get caught in the Web.

As at the 2016-2017 season, millway were in league one but komekn who is known to have strict policies as regards national team invites as it relates to the league a player plays was gracious enough to reduce his standard for a certain fred onyedinma.

oloriooko:
Am so pissed about this Tammy saga, so much talk and abuses from so many people
Please all you should let Tammy be!
If he chose to play for England, so be it!
If he turns back to choose Nigeria, so be it!
But enough of all the insults on the young man
He has the full right to make his choice of country to play for

jotey:


I am not supporting the insults but I think he deserves it

the guy use us play ten ten

why not come out like solanke did and say plainly I WANT TO PLAY FOR ENGLAND

if solanke plays for England today he won't get this kind of backlash I promise you

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr knows more about Youth football in Europe that you. He has worked in the system for decades, worked with respected names in the game, trained coaches and worked with quality scouts. Give it a rest. You can not teach him about European scouting of quality talent.

He already proved you wrong with his assessment of Shehu and Awaziem which is far from your understanding of the game.

Gerrit?

TheGoodJoe:


Awaziem was not a regular in any way when Rohr invited him and people still criticised his call. At the end, they were wrong. Finito.

TheGoodJoe:
Echiejile lost his place in the squad in the last qualifying games of Coach Keshi after consecutive poor performances led us to a bad position in the qualifiers.

How can people ask about Echiejile instead of asking the true question. What made Sunday Oliseh not call Juwon Oshaniwa after Juwon Oshaniwa became the left back under Coach Keshi.

Why did Coach Siasia not call Juwon Oshaniwa?