CapitalCee:


But they are major trophies. City did not even have those "trophies not bigger" than EPL. United won 3 major trophies in one and half year. City has just 1 in 3 years. Liecester has 1 major trophy in 2 years, United has 3. Thats the point. United are a massive club and are still winning till this moment. City are not.

LOL. So Arsenal with 3 of the last 4 FA Cups are what? Is the argument now between City and United? Who in their right senses will argue City over United?

As you can see, you are changing the argument. Carling Cup, FA Cup and Europa together are not equal to or better than 1 EPL. If that was not the case, nobody would troll Liverpool because Gerard Houllier won all such trophies in one season (2001) and everyone keeps asking them for their EPL.

United are a massive club via trophy hauls and financial power as well. If the argument was about recency, then United would be minnows. Hope you see my point.

The financial power of United is one of the reasons they are tier 1 now not about their history. Same as City.

diggz:


How would you now describe psgs money investments?

Tier 1. They can afford anyone they want and are rich culturally and otherwise today.

Also, contrary to what people think they are the most successful team in France.

Eruditor:


LOL. So Arsenal with 3 of the last 4 FA Cups are what? Is the argument now between City and United? Who in their right senses will argue City over United?

As you can see, you are changing the argument. Carling Cup, FA Cup and Europa together are not equal to or better than 1 EPL. If that was not the case, nobody would troll Liverpool because Gerard Houllier won all such trophies in one season (2001) and everyone keeps asking them for their EPL.

United are a massive club via trophy hauls and financial power as well. If the argument was about recency, then United would be minnows. Hope you see my point.

The financial power of United is one of the reasons they are tier 1 now not about their history. Same as City.

League cup, FA cup and europa league are major trophies so is League title. United are not minnows recently, they have won 3 major trophies in 18 months, so what are you saying? I am not talking about history recently united have won more trophies than city.
Its not only Financial power that is making united great they have won things to go alongside.

ctuagent007:



Therefore according to u, Tier 1 like Utd, Shekpe & Liverpool should have been picked ahead of PSG since they are former champs of the ucl.

So according to ur analogy, England wey no sabi ball na Tier 1 as them don win the WC before unlike Belgium wet be Tier 2 or Tier 3.


U still haven't answered by Tier 2s are rated highly than some Tier 1 to win the ucl or the WC?

That not what i mean, My point is psg being the bookies favourites doesnt put them above the above clubs.

Yes England is a big footballing nation far bigger than Belgium. Belgium have not won the world cup and have not won anything of note in their history. And dont always qualify for international tournaments. England have qualified for almost all the world cups and won one. Placing Belgium ahead of England by the bookies doesnt mean Belgium is a bigger footballing nation than England.

CapitalCee:


League cup, FA cup and europa league are major trophies so is League title. United are not minnows recently, they have won 3 major trophies in 18 months, so what are you saying? I am not talking about history recently united have won more trophies than city.
Its not only Financial power that is making united great they have won things to go alongside.

So Sevilla are greater than City and are tier 1?

You know it in your heart that the FA Cup, Carling and Europa cup are not major trophies (I can let the last one pass but it is not as important as it used to be). Only league titles in respected leagues and the champions league make up the major trophies. If you argue against this, then you cannot justify why Arsenal FC should not be tier 1. In the last 4 seasons they have been hugely more successful than United (winning 3 "major" trophies, 3 "minor" trophies) and finishing higher than United in the league in all 4 seasons.

Do you see how it works? Oya, change the argument back to pedigree and how many titles United have won in their history.

Eruditor:


So Sevilla are greater than City and are tier 1?

You know it in your heart that the FA Cup, Carling and Europa cup are not major trophies (I can let the last one pass but it is not as important as it used to be). Only league titles in respected leagues and the champions league make up the major trophies. If you argue against this, then you cannot justify why Arsenal FC should not be tier 1. In the last 4 seasons they have been hugely more successful than United (winning 3 "major" trophies, 3 "minor" trophies) and finishing higher than United in the league in all 4 seasons.

Do you see how it works? Oya, change the argument back to pedigree and how many titles United have won in their history.

Sevilla doeant have UCL

CapitalCee:


That not what i mean, My point is psg being the bookies favourites doesnt put them above the above clubs.

Yes England is a big footballing nation far bigger than Belgium. Belgium have not won the world cup and have not won anything of note in their history. And dont always qualify for international tournaments. England have qualified for almost all the world cups and won one. Placing Belgium ahead of England by the bookies doesnt mean Belgium is a bigger footballing nation than England.

Hahaha....I understand sha which means should either of PSG or City win the ucl, they automatically enter the Tier 1 level.
Just imagining utd, Shekpe & the likes going trophyless for 10-20 years esp EPL & ucl trophies & then they become Tier 2 clubs abi @CapC

Eruditor:


I am not arguing their status in terms of winnings. Do you know Gabriel Jesus was courted by Real Madrid but he went to City? Would that have happened in 2005?

Abeg who is Gabriel Jesùs in the scheme of things?.. A relatively unknown player?

Do you know that Sneijder was courted by Manchester United buh he went to Galatasary

Eruditor:


So Sevilla are greater than City and are tier 1?

You know it in your heart that the FA Cup, Carling and Europa cup are not major trophies (I can let the last one pass but it is not as important as it used to be). Only league titles in respected leagues and the champions league make up the major trophies. If you argue against this, then you cannot justify why Arsenal FC should not be tier 1. In the last 4 seasons they have been hugely more successful than United (winning 3 "major" trophies, 3 "minor" trophies) and finishing higher than United in the league in all 4 seasons.

Do you see how it works? Oya, change the argument back to pedigree and how many titles United have won in their history.

Sevilla doeant have UCL just like city. Both are tier 2.

CapitalCee:


Sevilla doeant have UCL just like city. Both are tier 2.

But they have 3 Europa "Major trophy" cups, no? 3 of the last 4 if I can count too.

elrony:


Abeg who is Gabriel Jesùs in the scheme of things?.. A relatively unknown player?

Do you know that Sneijder was courted by Manchester United buh he went to Galatasary

Can you back this up with hard evidence? Or you need this redherring because you have none?

Eruditor:


Can you back this up with hard evidence? Or you need this redherring because you have none?

Bros why you like argument like this? Are you ready to stake on the matter or you gonna bail because you have no BVN ?

ctuagent007:


Hahaha....I understand sha which means should either of PSG or City win the ucl, they automatically enter the Tier 1 level.
Just imagining utd, Shekpe & the likes going trophyless for 10-20 years esp EPL & ucl trophies & then they become Tier 2 clubs abi @CapC

If they win UCL they join.
Once those clubs are still competitive, they are tier 1

Eruditor:


Can you back this up with hard evidence Or you need this redherring because you have none?

Know your onions before you doubt a mancunian in future blaad! We are thorough....

Cc; Elrony

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8735097/Wesley-Sneijder-Manchester-United-move-was-close.html

Eruditor:


But they have 3 Europa "Major trophy" cups, no? 3 of the last 4 if I can count too.

You dont understand my point. The major trophy means they are competitive, they have secured their tier 1 status long ago

funlord:
Know your onions before you doubt a mancunian in future blaad! We are thorough....
Cc; Elrony
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8735097/Wesley-Sneijder-Manchester-United-move-was-close.html

Was it around the same window he rejected Man Utd that he went to Galatasaray?

Or was it when his form has dropped from the time Man Utd was interested

e.g If Rooney had rejected Madrid around like 2010 when he was hot and saying he didnt join Madrid but went to Everton when he don cast?

funlord:



Know your onions before you doubt a mancunian in future blaad! We are thorough....

Cc; Elrony

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8735097/Wesley-Sneijder-Manchester-United-move-was-close.html

Thank you for helping to nail your fellow mancunian.

Sneijder did not opt to go to Galatasaray; Fergie simply did not want him any more. Now compare that to the statement I made about Jesus.

CapitalCee:


You dont understand my point. The major trophy means they are competitive, they have secured their tier 1 status long ago

I. Don't. Understand.

CapitalCee:


If they win UCL they join.
Once those clubs are still competitive, they are tier 1

So football club Celtic are tier 1? They won the UCL years ago and are still "competitive" till date.

funlord:



Know your onions before you doubt a mancunian in future blaad! We are thorough....

Cc; Elrony

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8735097/Wesley-Sneijder-Manchester-United-move-was-close.html

Lol...

elrony:


Lol...

You can see they have both brought out their iya basira long ladles in anticipation of turning amala from the initial argument about hard facts! Forgetting say me na alacarte I dey like to wack......Even before sneijder left inter (during his best form) he was courted by united! It just never happened.....probably for financial, jose at inter and our post Fergie slumps reasons! But see where these ones wan carry the talk go!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8678725/Manchester-Uniteds-Paul-Scholes-throws-weight-behind-clubs-pursuit-of-Wesley-Sneijder.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-wesley-sneijder-turned-down-chance-to-join-united-as-he-wanted-to-9770679.html

funlord:



You can see they have both brought out their iya basira long ladles in anticipation of turning amala from the initial argument about hard facts! Forgetting say me na alacarte I dey like to wack......Even before sneijder left inter (during his best form) he was courted by united! It just never happened.....probably for financial, jose at inter and our post Fergie slumps reasons! But see where these ones wan carry the talk go!

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/manchester-united-transfer-news-wesley-sneijder-turned-down-chance-to-join-united-as-he-wanted-to-9770679.html

I admire what you are doing; sticking up for your man even when you know he met a cul-de-sac.

I said Real Madrid courted Gabriel Jesus but the player himself chose City. To make light of this reasoning your man said Sneijder turned down United to go to Galatasaray. I charged him to back it up and he could not and neither have you.

I want to post the glaring contradiction between this link and your first link or even El Rony's argument but I may wait for you to see it yourself.

In any case, Fergie turned down Sneijder who went to Galatasaray after. And in your second link Sneijder turned down a move to leave Galatasaray to play for LVG.

As you can see, neither has anything to do with Sneijder leaving Inter to go to Gala instead of United. Which is what I asked your man to back with evidence.

Oya, turn the Amala again.

Waris happening here?

Skimpledawg:
Waris happening here?

Na back & forth

Amala things

JayKayMaybachz:
Na back & forth

Amala things

The Amala turning no be here o...person go dey read posts dey enjoy am all of a sudden, they will start using pestle to turn amala inside mortar. I cannot deal mehn

The bad thing is that it is not Dayo doing the amala turning sef..

Eruditor:


So football club Celtic are tier 1? They won the UCL years ago and are still "competitive" till date.

They are not competitive financially. United Chelsea and say Barcelona are still competitive both on the pitch and financially

alexie4real:
*Aside Depay, Asensio is the biggest fraud to grace football, nigga used two weeks to play like Messi, Ronaldo and Maradona combined together, now he's back to default, playing like Cosmos Dauda....*

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lol... He'll still pick form again

CapitalCee:


They are not competitive financially. United Chelsea and say Barcelona are still competitive both on the pitch and financially

Now finance comes into it. You are seeing the light.

So explain the United you are trying so hard to squeeze in based on "competing on the pitch"?

alexie4real:
*Aside Depay, Asensio is the biggest fraud to grace football, nigga used two weeks to play like Messi, Ronaldo and Maradona combined together, now he's back to default, playing like Cosmos Dauda....*

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I don laff sotey my cheap fone nearly fall break screen but u are right though but I would still give him time...Ascenso has allowed the hype get him & if care isn't taken, his career may nosedive like Iker munian

Skimpledawg:

The Amala turning no be here o...person go dey read posts dey enjoy am all of a sudden, they will start using pestle to turn amala inside mortar. I cannot deal mehn

The bad thing is that it is not Dayo doing the amala turning sef..

Lol

Na all of dem jare

I just dey yawn for hia