samsam2019:
I read your write up twice and I must confess I struggled to see any sense in it.




Of all the points you raised your attempts at justifying the stupid excesses of your pastors and god of men is laughable. You even said there is no difference between a car owner and a private jet owner. The pope still fly around using commercial plane and he's the head of the biggest church in the world. What makes your pastors better ? Perhaps their arrogance.



You also asked why critics didn't sell their cars and give the money to the poor. Brain farts is what you have. There is a planet difference between a man/woman who worked hard, bought a car and a pastor who cajole and threaten members with poverty to take 10% of their earnings in the name of tithe.



Honestly I shouldn't waste time with this stupid post

There you go again making wrong conclusions. The OP mentioned organisational structure in his analysis. The Pope does not go from parish to parish to conduct masses but these pastor do. Catholic is decentralised but the churches are centralised.

samsam2019:
I read your write up twice and I must confess I struggled to see any sense in it.




Of all the points you raised your attempts at justifying the stupid excesses of your pastors and god of men is laughable. You even said there is no difference between a car owner and a private jet owner. The pope still fly around using commercial plane and he's the head of the biggest church in the world. What makes your pastors better ? Perhaps their arrogance.



You also asked why critics didn't sell their cars and give the money to the poor. Brain farts is what you have. There is a planet difference between a man/woman who worked hard, bought a car and a pastor who cajole and threaten members with poverty to take 10% of their earnings in the name of tithe.



Honestly I shouldn't waste time with this stupid post

Is it only 10% they take? I hear there are:

Offerings
Seed sowing
Daddy's day
Mummy's Day
Daddy's Birthday
Mummy's Birthday
Daddy & Mummy's Marriage Anniversary Celebration
Sowing Seed of the First Rain
Sowing Seed of the 2nd Rain
blah, blah, blah, blah

The True God is going to surprise them very soon.

Mofe72:


How many kilometres did Jesus have to cover?

Don't forget he used Peter's boat = chartered plane

If these planes are being used by the church and for the ministry, i really don't see how that's a bad thing

If you add Adeboye , Oyedepo and the rest of the pastors flock you wouldn't get one tenth of the Catholic followership, yet the pope doesnt have to travel so much.

Why do they have to travel so much?

Private jet will land in same place as commercial jets.. They aren't faster or safer than commercial jet....

My best friend is an aero mechanic, I was marveled when he told me How much private jet owners spend in dollars daily at d hanger.....

holybabayo:


You quote things half half to suit yourself. The quotation on tithe been paid to everyone but pastor was not a regular tithe, it was a special tithe of the third year. Study that up to learn better.
As for the whole of Malachi been addressed to only the Priests; again you are doing half half quotation. The earlier parts of the quote was concentrated on the priests but the later part was to the people and it touched on many subjects. Do a complete study next time sir. The devil is always a deceptive agent.

A pastor is not a levite, both words are clearly not same.

The word 'Malachi is the name of an English Man. The in Hebrew it's not someone's name, it is ''Mal'akhiy" and this means "the prophets.

Its a book for the levites and Malachi 3 vs 10 was specifically for the prophets who don't bring "the whole tithe" into the house of God. Only the levite brings food for the lords storehouse, not the people.



*Are u trying to deny that Bible didn't mention payment of tithe to widows




If u have any idea of what geneology is, you would know that every law about tithing was given by God in Deuteronomy n Leviticus and not in Malachi. Also sure u don't know that the levites/pastors should pay tithe.

kiddapunk:
I do not support the belief that churches should not own private jets, but for the sake of your statement, I'll clarify. There's a huge difference between air and land travel, and one notable one is cost. The cost of air travel makes it far different from land travel, secondly mobility, a flight needs more attention to fly whereas any Tom, dick and Harry can just buy a car and start driving, lastly a car can be drives at all times no matter the road but a jet is regulated by bodies because too many circumstances sorrounds its safe movement, weather, clash, mechanism, etc. They are too incomparable things, a private jet was never a necessity meant for everyone.

Lol I completely disagree with you. The issue of cost is a relative issue and it appears to be the only difference but it is not very valid. Do you think God as mighty as he is would say 'hey you can have a Car but don't go near a Jet because it is expensive.' To Living Faith the Cost of running a Jet might be similar to the cost of running a bus by a growing Church. If Living Faith spends 1% of her budget on Air travel and A growing church spends 1% of her budget on land travel then what would you be blaming Living Faith for exactly?

Now let me give you a theory. Let us go back 100 years behind when it was luxury to own a bicycle. Now imagine if a pastor came up to use a 504 car at that time which ordinary Nigerians couldn't afford they would have criticised that pastor too and claim that the cost of riding a car is more than the cost of owning a bicycle.

The truth is most ppl criticise pastors for owning a jet because they know they may never have the opportunity to own one. Hence their hypocrisy would never have the opportunity to show. You think if they give anybody private jet here they would reject it because of cost??

@ife olaleye & @statsocial
Sorry dudes, but your defence is at best pathetic! I say so because for once I decided to give freeze a listen on YouTube (his interview on sahara refers) and I must admit he is not insane after all. He went ahead to back the "facts" with scripture! I expected any defense whatsoever, I.e counter argument to follow suit with scriptural backing, but no, I see the duo of Garba Shehu and FEMI Adesina in you guys.
@statsocial
Why call someone you don't know and haven't met with "son of Lucifer"? Is that how much of a christian you are? Are u pointing me in the direction of the cross with such outburst? Please be civil. Let Christ Jesus be reflected in all we say and do.

Please guys, next time , come out with a more robust defense, a wholistic one that addresses all the "facts" raised by freeze instead of just sticking to the private jet issue alone.

Be sure I will be waiting to read.

PrecisionFx:



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There's no blessing that comes with giving an unemployed 10% - 20% of what u earn for a life time.




I don't pay tithe.

I don't go to church.

I don't give offering.

But God keeps blessing me.





Meanwhile how much tithe did Jesus collect?

Was Jesus acting as a priests? Was He a Levite? Do you pay tithe to a Judean?

Statsocial:
A Response to Freeze thread on private jets

/https://www.nairaland.com/4154132/freeze-im-after-prosperity-pastorsQuestion

and a question to him and his supporters by a Nairalander


By Ife Olaleye

Before writing on Why Pastors Use Private Jets can Freeze and his followers answer the question below for me as I see no difference between a private jet and a private car.


Can Freeze tell me the difference between a Private Jet and a Private Car?

My own response: To the people who use private cars, I tell you that you are of no difference from those who use Private Jets. If Freeze himself and his followers want us to take them seriously then they should sell off their cars to the poor and join the rest of us Nigerians to use BRTs. That is the only way they can prove to me that they are sincere about their crusade against Jets because who is to say Freeze won't buy a private Jet if he has the money to do so.

Now, If God would Judge Oyedepo and Adeboye for using private jets then don't be sure he won't judge you for using a private car when the rest of us are taking BRT. Why not use that money you use in buying Lexus, Camry and Toyota to feed the poor and simply use Danfo or BRT? (Sarcasm) It is amazing that even some Churches where they use Church money to buy Bus would come and criticize those who buy jets for international travels. The way today's people assess issues is strange. To them anything they can not personally afford must be unfair for the Church to procure.


WHY CHURCHES USE PRIVATE JETS
Pastors buying private jets with tithes and offerings is an exaggeration take to far

Out of the millions of clergymen who exist across the globe there is just an handful. Most likely less than 100 who own private jets. As a matter of fact the use of private or charter jets is usually restricted to top leadership of most ministries e.g Pope of Catholic Church, GO of RCCG etc. However the enemies of the church both within and without have made a storm out of a glass of water to create the exaggeration(lie) and make it seem all churches are just being self serving. Before I proceed into addressing the issue of private jets I would like to address another trendy statement


A Private Jet is Just a personal Vehicle like any other Private Car

A private jet is not necessarily or exclusively luxury like a yacht for instance. Corporations, Governments and Organizations do own it for operational purposes and a Church with significant presence in more than 20 countries should actually consider owning one depending on how centralized the leadership of the church is.

It would be unwise of Living Faith and RCCG to use commercial Air transport.

The issue of Private jets ought not to be a Controversy. If you have a local assignment then use a local means of transporation. The assignment of most Nigerians are within the country. Hence a bicycle/motorcycle would do for those in the core villages while a Car would do for those in the City. And for individuals like Oyedepo and Adeboye who have Churches to run in 65 and 193 countries then the use of private jets may just be imperative.

On my little research I discovered that Oyedepo travels about 5 times in a week and still makes it back in time for Canaanlands Sunday service. That can only be possible if the Church has a private jet. Now my own pastor was once stuck Abroad due to some issues with his booked flight hence he missed about two Sundays or so. However I am not saying my pastor needs a private jet because he only travels once in a year for his summer vacation and rarely travels for international ministrations as we do not have a branch outside Nigeria. But on the other hand RCCG owns about 700 branches in UK alone, the biggest church in East Africa is a living Faith Church. Other countries like Zambia also have huge Living Faith members. So why should a pastor of such a church not have a means to travel in a private jet.

I once saw Oyedepo at a 8:00 clock service in Landmark University in Omu Aran(via internet). So I thought did he leave Ota as early as 3AM or did he sleep over at Omu Aran? But I was told by an indigene of Omu aran that anytime there is an Helicopter hovering over town then they are sure Oyedepo is around(and he comes around Omu Aran often) so I knew he came with a Chopper that morning and left with a chopper that same morning. But imagine if he had to use a commercial airline for that. He would have to take a trip to Ikeja board an available flight to Ilorin(if they have an Airport) or Abuja and then begin a journey back to Omu Aran and hope there is an Available flight back Lagos. All that wahala for a 60 something year old man just because you want to preach in a 45 minutes service Kwara.

Five Churches that should actually buy Private Jets if they don't have.

RCCG
Living Faith
Mountain Of Fire Ministries
Christ Embassy
Deeperlife Ministeries.

Perhaps there are few global ministeries in the world that have planted Churches as much as these churches in modern Christian era and that is testament to the indispensable role that Nigerian Christendom has to play in the propagation of the gospel in the end times.
For these Churches they appear to run a very Centralized leadership and that is very good. Hence I would actually recommend the use of Private planes and Helicopters for easy conveyance of their top leadership.


On a final note RCCG as a Church is bigger than some countries (membership vs citizens) e.g Lesotho, Licheistein yet can we say that the presidency of such Nations disparages their poor by using private planes for Official purposes? If we won't, then why do we insist on assassinating the Character of these Noble pastors who never respond to people castigating them?


https://educationexplorersite./2017/11/03/why-nigerian-pastors-use-private-jets-and-a-question-to-freeze/

Lalasticlala

many of u still do not understand daddy freeze and Gis message. Daddy freeze has Neva been against owning a private jet if the wherewithal is there. He is against "tithe" , he is against false doctrine the pastors are using to exploit the people. He is against all manner of evil done in the church just to make the pastors comfortable. If not that the so called GO s lack shame, are they not supposed to have come out with Bible verses and truths to explain to us if the tithe doctrine is applicable or not? Malachi 3: 8-10 is the only scripture u hear with all manners of threats attached. Younger men who have taken time to study have come out to dispel their lies, instead of celebrating our freedom u guys are blaming freeze. Freeze is God sent..thank God even Paul adefarasin has also said the truth about the tithe. People are becoming wiser. I am highly disappointed that pastor Kumuyi who I consider to be deeply knowledgeable and upholds the truth has not told us the truth about tithe, he is the only Nigerian pastor I believe BT with tgis clarification from from freeze and Dr damina, I will personally write to kumuyi to explain himself

Mathew 26:7-13
A woman came to him with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table.

8 When the disciples saw this, they were indignant. “Why this waste?” they asked. 9 “This perfume could have been sold at a high price and the money given to the poor.”

10 Aware of this, Jesus said to them, “Why are you bothering this woman? She has done a beautiful thing to me. 11 The poor you will always have with you,[a] but you will not always have me. 12 When she poured this perfume on my body, she did it to prepare me for burial. 13 Truly I tell you, wherever this gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her.”



The heart of a man is desperately wicked. Why are you so wicked to think a man of God that preaches the gospel of Jesus Christ that I know should be poor. You can't preach that gospel, lay your life for your sheep, fast, pray effectively for years and be poor. Even if you choose to be poor wealth will follow you.

The prophet Isaiah prophesy this in Isaiah 2:2
In the last days, the mountain of the LORD's house will be the highest of all--the most important place on earth. It will be raised above the other hills, and people from all over the world will stream there to worship.

Some of you don't have a clue into what the church will be in this last days. See let me tell you, men of God will be very rich, church will be very rich. Presidents of nations will run to church, people will seek the church. Wealth will move massively into the church. Every good andd God ordained denomination will experience this no matter where the church may be located.

For some of you who think men of God live on tithe and offering. Ministry is a calling, if you are called and deliver the mandate God gave to you, you can't go hungry. I once lived with a man of God that has never collected salary from his church. But this man of God devoted all his life praying and fasting for the sheep and for the advancement of the kingdom for over 2 decades even till now. Now his converts and the people his prayer has worked for all round the world can not do without blessing him per day even if he says no.

Once you are called and the oil of God is on your head, queen of shebba will bring gift even when you never wanted it. Wealth, money, gift will follow you. So first forget about tithe and offering if you really want to attack the wealth of a man of God. You should fight the oil on their head that makes their prayer to be answered for years and still counting.

Check this bible verses


Deuteronomy 8:18 - But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for [it is] he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as [it is] this day.

Jeremiah 29:11 - For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.

Philippians 4:19 - But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Malachi 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it].

3 John 1:2 - Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Psalms 128:2 - For thou shalt eat the labour of thine hands: happy [shalt] thou [be], and [it shall be] well with thee.

2 Corinthians 9:8 - And God [is] able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all [things], may abound to every good work:

Psalms 1:3 - And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

2 Corinthians 8:9 - For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

Proverbs 28:25 - He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.

Zechariah 9:12 - Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope: even to day do I declare [that] I will render double unto thee;

Job 22:23-27 - If thou return to the Almighty, thou shalt be built up, thou shalt put away iniquity far from thy tabernacles. (Read More...)

Luke 6:38 - Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Psalms 1:1-6 - Blessed [is] the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. (Read More...)

Deuteronomy 28:1-14 - And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe [and] to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: (Read More...)

Jeremiah 29:11-14 - For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end. (Read More...)

Nehemiah 2:20 - Then answered I them, and said unto them, The God of heaven, he will prosper us; therefore we his servants will arise and build: but ye have no portion, nor right, nor memorial, in Jerusalem.
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God bless this writer; it is my own principle never to join issues with those who don't know but claims to know..you don't answer them..those attacking men of God for their lifestyle or whatever are simply ignorants of the word of God..even if you don't pay your tithe to them which one is your headache about their flamboyant life..? Nonsense talk from idle mind

Nasa28:
Is that what church is all about? Buying of private jet?

Pls read about the old churches.

Even Jesus didn't even bother about those mundane things because they're of less important.

Says a man that types from his smartphone...

martineverest:
Private jet will land in same place as commercial jets.. They aren't faster or safer than commercial jet....

My best friend is an aero mechanic, I was marveled when he told me How much private jet owners spend in dollars daily at d hanger.....

An analysis done some time in 2014 puts the average cost of running a private jet at N22m monthly. That was when the exchange rate was N160/USD.

I think the massive ignorance on the part of some promoters and supporters of this ABHORRENT and SATANIC passion for luxury is a factor.

AZeD1:

I guess his parks the private jet in his house so as to avoid going to Ikeja when he wants to travel.

nice reply

PointZerom:
During the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, He used the highest means of transportation (Horse). It is not a sin if a pastor uses private Jet which is also the highest means of transportation as at today.

I stand to be corrected that he never used a horse... A Chariot was the most prestigious in his days though

Kunlenoni:
Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you should criticize it

One thing I'm certain about is that daddy freeze is not called, someone living stupid life, having intercourse with baby mama upandan

Only if you can think deep, you should all know that daddy freeze is against all pastors and churchea on earth, or have you seen any church that does not collect tithe?

If one pervert

this is quite funny

The Catholic church is not a tithe collecting church, the Nigerian Catholic church only recently allowed members to pay tithe because some members wanted to be more like pentecostals.

Even at that, the tithe is optional. If you wan pay you pay, if not, no one will even notice. It is not a criteria for membership or for marriage or funerals in the church or any other form of blackmail pentecostals adopt to make people pay tithe

ECWA is another church where tithes are optional

hardeycute:
Op your excuses for the usage and purchase of PJ by pastors is unfounded because I wouldn't know why they must be present all the time at the congregation.

Why Should a Pastor be travelling up and down when he is not a tourist or a global trotter? Is it to incline that your god authority is only with the few and the others can administer the churches?

The cost of a PJ+the maintenance is overwhelming in regards to booking commercial flights

If you truly call yourself a Christian, then you will definitely be the first to enter hell fire.

Like wtf! Why should pastors be travelling up and down? You're not a Christian

PrecisionFx:




A pastor is not a levite, both words are clearly not same.

The word 'Malachi is the name of an English Man. The in Hebrew it's not someone's name, it is ''Mal'akhiy" and this means "the prophets.

Its a book for the levites and Malachi 3 vs 10 was specifically for the prophets who don't bring "the whole tithe" into the house of God. Only the levite brings food for the lords storehouse, not the people.



*Are u trying to deny that Bible didn't mention payment of tithe to widows




If u have any idea of what geneology is, you would know that every law about tithing was given by God in Deuteronomy n Leviticus and not in Malachi. Also sure u don't know that the levites/pastors should pay tithe.

Very soon we will end up taking about how one man was caught yesterday in your backyard stilling dog shits. Concentrate on the matter you raised and was addressed by me. Tithe of the Third Year being given to widows and others. Malachi been addressed to the priests only.

Nasa28:
Is that what church is all about? Buying of private jet?

Pls read about the old churches.

Even Jesus didn't even bother about those mundane things because they're of less important.

So you never read or heard of Philip in the book of Acts who travelled by air (Spirit) to Azotus after baptizing the Ethiopian Eunoch? So read the Bible by dispensation too. Don't box in the Spirit of God

holybabayo:


There you go again making wrong conclusions. The OP mentioned organisational structure in his analysis. The Pope does not go from parish to parish to conduct masses but these pastor do. Catholic is decentralised but the churches are centralised.

so Oyedepo travels from parish to parish every Sunday to give sermons?

Is that the latest lie? The ridiculousness of this claim is enough to leave one flaggerbasted and greatly amused

@OP,

Don't let people take you to the cleaners. Your submission is pretty lame.

personal59:
lol.. see question

some people just want to be heard

imagine comparing jet to car when the money u need to maintain jet in a month will buy car itself

may be the op av forgotten so soon that it cost Nigeria £4000 per day for parking space alone when the president was in UK for treatment


aside this all this pastors own fleet of cars when they are not businessman

abegi I no get time for this nonsense because its incomparable.

just like u comparing yourself to dangote because both of u are human....... mtcheew abeg park well

Some of you are just du.mb.


There is no difference between the reasons people use private cars and the reasons people use private jets.

Private jet to you is a luxury because you're poor. To others who can comfortably afford it, it is nothing but a mobility system. The way you see Toyota Camry is the same way others see Jet or Helicopter.

nemynely:
@ife olaleye & @statsocial
Sorry dudes, but your defence is at best pathetic! I say so because for once I decided to give freeze a listen on YouTube (his interview on sahara refers) and I must admit he is not insane after all. He went ahead to back the "facts" with scripture! I expected any defense whatsoever, I.e counter argument to follow suit with scriptural backing, but no, I see the duo of Garba Shehu and FEMI Adesina in you guys.
@statsocial
Why call someone you don't know and haven't met with "son of Lucifer"? Is that how much of a christian you are? Are u pointing me in the direction of the cross with such outburst? Please be civil. Let Christ Jesus be reflected in all we say and do.

Please guys, next time , come out with a more robust defense, a wholistic one that addresses all the "facts" raised by freeze instead of just sticking to the private jet issue alone.

Be sure I will be waiting to read.

I called the guy Son of Lucifer because that is his moniker. If someone calls himself sonof lucifer then what should I refer to him as?

This article has nothing to do with Tithe. I am talking about Private Jets hence it isnt much about quoting scriptures per say. The time for debating tithe would come but for now I am in the mood for facing the private jet issue.

I have nothing against owning a private car or a jet my only problem is the personalised nature of the ministries you cited these great men of God don't need to be everywhere or travel everywhere check the scripture even the apostle paul wasn't everywhere there should be division of labour anoint men and women to carry the torch to all the ends of the world it doesn't have to be a one man thing and to your question the difference is that a car belongs to an individual but a jet in most cases belongs to the ministry it is not only the general overseer that uses it

I will only take Freeze's submissions seriously the day he sells his cars and properties to feed the poor.


Some you have never donated a can of Peak Milk to your dying relatives back home yet you run everywhere online telling others how to spend their money.

Acidosis:


Some of you are just du.mb.


There is no difference between the reasons people use private cars and the reasons people use private jets.

Private jet to you is a luxury because you're poor. To others who can comfortably afford it, it is nothing but a mobility system. The way you see Toyota Camry is the same way others see Jet or Helicopter.

Tell them Sir. And I am sure God sees a private jet as just another metal shaped differently. There is no difference between a Ship, Car or Private Jet-they are just mere modes of transport. Some people must think God is petty to deal with their tantrums and emotional sensationalism.

Statsocial:

The first and most important calling of the Church isn't to economically empower anybody. Christians in Govt should herald that revolution and not necessarily the church as an Organization. The role of the Church is to preach and Unveil Jesus.

But it's their calling to endorse the stealing politicians when they come to them.

Christianity involves everything good. Moses fought an oppressive leader to a standstill and so many other prophets liberated the people of God for bad leaders e.g the story of Saul and David etc.

We Christians in Nigeria always look for ways to absorb out pastor for any fault which is a shame. We try justify any off their actions.

They misbehave, we say after all they are humans. But when Somebody is bold enough to speak against them, all of a sudden they are anointed man of God. Pls take a stance goddammit.

So if u feel it's not the calling of the church as an organization to economically empower anybody, how about giving back to the people as much as they receive from them? Atleast that was what Jesus was about, preaching salvation and giving to the people without taking nothing no matter the denomination u are from or ur faith.

These we hardly see these days all the do is preach prosperity and take and take from the people giving back little or nothing, all in the name of running the church.

If I may ask, Who is the church? The people is the church, not a building, not a man standing at a pulpit.

Try imagine hospital and social amenities in place of majority of these churches we have littering the country, do u know how better life wld have been?

Despite the number of churches we have in Nigeria, we are still plague with bad leaders and backwardness. This alone shows we lack God in our midst. Because the Bible said in his presence all will be well.

Imagine the amount of money that leaves the economy into the church and not giving anything back to the economy? Pls we should learn to practice Christianity right.

Imagine the leaders of these mega churches decided to speak against the ills we are experiencing in terms of bad leadership, with the number of people they hold sway over, tell me that won't impact the the country in a positive light.

Do u know y dey don't do it? Because they are cowards afraid of persecution because of the good things of life. Which is far from been Christlike.

Pls I no fit write because no matter the episode, a typical Nigeria christian wld always be one.

DanXplore:
I am a Christian and i love God and it is my civic obligation to acknowledge the truth. What freeze in his own unique way has said is the pure truth. I might not be the wisest man on earth but when i hear the plain truth i know.

Tithing was and is never a part of the new covenant. I repeat, tithing is not a part of the new covenant. While i know that most pastors teach tithing out of a heart of sincerity, the doctrine in itself is wrong! It is bad and dangerous when error is taught with utmost sincerity and zeal. Zeal that does not come from knowledge and truth is catastrophic.

What God requires in the new covenant is obedience. Not following some old ritual.

Nevertheless, your actions become spiritual when faith is applied it. If u decide to give 10% to a local assembly because you feel their is a need to be met or because you want to honour God, then that is fine. Another person can decide to give 50%. All is done according to one's faith. If the church fully practices what the founding fathers practiced as christianity, people will even give more than 10%. Authentic blessing will flow if one follows the teachings of Jesus.

Tithing came with the Law and is of the law. Abraham tithed before the law to honour a man of God, melchizedeck. God had to make tithing a command because the people were inherently greedy and so he had to force a way, by means of the law, to cause men to give. This is not so in the new covenant. Our giving should not be forced based on some religious promulgation, but based on the love and truth that is on the tablets of our heart.

Scripture is palpable enough to be misconstrued. Paul said if he could not spare his Son, how much more will he give us all things. James said true religion is to help those in need. Your love for God is seen in service to men. God will not bless you because you are faithful in giving 10% of your money but rather in your consistency in maintaining the character of christ in your environment. In another place, it says he has given unto us all that pertain to life and godliness through the knowledge of Jesus christ...NOT through the law. knowledge in this context represents the systems of the kingdom of Christ which is predicated upon love, trust and sincerity and not some law.

�� This guy is sounding like my Dad

Is it the state of the country that is affecting people's thought pattern? I don't like Daddy Freeze but your post just made me like him a little. When a private jet costs almost 1000% more than a car. Please why do they need to travel upandan when they have the internet to preach to people. Must you be present? Do you know what 4.2 billion naira is and can do to the lives of others?

Nathaniel Bassey had a session for a couple of days this year and he was about to reach over 50,000 people all across the world. From his house with a 12,000 naira internet modem.

Don't annoy me!

VcStunner:
Hello OP, I can relate with your post on the level you want us to understand all the "why". Infact I can contribute more for you if for any way you said such stuff like "pls add yours"
You see, my only problem with your post is that you mentioned the Pope of the Catholic church as one of your example! Now let me quickly clear you... please don't ever in your life involve the mother church in such a lugubrious attempt to excuse such humongous profligacy. You should understand that the only reason the pope would use a private jet (which ofcourse is a state property) is because he is also a head of state of the Vatican. Vatican is a country in a country... the Catholic church do not for any reason let the worldly stuff be a focus for her priests. Meaning you don't own nothing!
Well done sha... you ALMOST convinced me honestly

What is shameful about saying the pope uses a private plane? Did I under any circumstance imply he wasn't head of state?
But let me now give you my opinion. The Vatican is a country although not accepted into d UN. Most of the pope's travels are for religious functions. His official addresses to Congresses and State houses are just by the way side. So It is easier for you to justify the pope use of plane as a clergyman than as head of state.

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The heading reads "what is the difference between a Private Jet and a Private Car" - that was a question and implies that I am seeking knowledge from you so If you have an answer lecture me instead of giving me needless lectures about Wisdom and Knowledge.

Actually private does not necessarily mean personal(to one individual). For instance I know one of the Living Faith Private Jets is stationed at Abuja(Missions HQ)for the use of the 1st Vice President(Bishop Abioye). The Church Hangar at MMIA is dual meaning it can only house two Jets at a time so I presume the remaining one is stationed at Europe or NAmerica by leaders of the Church in those places.

Lol since you are the son of lucifer you should be more worried about ur father's failing kingdom than killing yourself over the Church of Christ.

**so far no one has answered my question rather they keep ranting and blabbing about how the write up broke their hearts answer the question Blaady Hypocrites!! If any of you don't sell your Car, give the money to Orphanage then join everyone in Using BRT then you are not ...........**

By the way the day you see any Church buy yacht(which is exclusively luxury) then call me I would come and criticise them. But for private jet I have no issue whatsoever.[/ you are on point brother, actually, if you can afford private jet, it is not unrighteousness to buy it, neither it's a criminal offence. If you can afford it, anybody can buy it]